Mavs v Spurs Game Thread

[highwhey]

Thompson looking good on both ends :applause:

[Kblaze8855]

I Completely missed Harrison Barnes being on the Spurs.

[ShawkFactory]

I Completely missed Harrison Barnes being on the Spurs.

I don’t even have sound on and only clocked it after a few minutes when I realized who the hell else would ever wear number 40.

Dallas’s bigs are dominant on the glass. Really tough to deal with.

[Proctor]

I Completely missed Harrison Barnes being on the Spurs.
Same.

Wish I could say the same about Keldon.

[Im Still Ballin]

Victor has to do less. He's forcing it too much. He needs to play off-ball, bigger, and let the game come to him.

[highwhey]

Lukas game is so nice man

[Phoenix]

Victor has to do less. He's forcing it too much. He needs to play off-ball, bigger, and let the game come to him.

It seems like he doesn't have his legs yet so he's jacking up long jumpers. You're right, he's not playing 'big' but the Spurs don't seem all that interested in positioning him with some at-rim gimmies either. He needs to see the ball go in and jacking up 3s ain't it...

[Meticode]

Victor has to do less. He's forcing it too much. He needs to play off-ball, bigger, and let the game come to him.

He's struggling overall shooting. He was forcing everything in that second quarter. I know it's a different NBA, but for a player of his size and skillset I'd like to see him take maybe 4 or 5 three a game if he's struggling. Not 7 in three quarters for 1-7.

[Meticode]

It will be interesting to see how Klay Thompson does. He's going to get open looks with the Mavs, but very different open looks compared to being a Splash Brother with the Warriors.

[Meticode]

Klay was so wide open on that three that he took a rhythm dribble like he was Curry. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Wemby had Antoine Walker disease. Except that Walker didn't have any overwhelming advantages in the paint so it makes no sense. He should be emulating Kareem not Curry.

[Meticode]

Klay was so wide open on that three he took a rhythm dribble like he was Curry. Luda was already running back up court pointing at the TNT broadcasters before he even attempted to shoot the ball. :oldlol:

[Carbine]

Wemby had Antoine Walker disease. Except that Walker didn't have any overwhelming advantages in the paint so it makes no sense. He should be emulating Kareem not Curry.

If he doesn't quit taking threes he will never be what his talents suggest he should be.

You'd like to think the mental part of the game has improved from year 1 to year 2 but it is apparent that hasn't happened yet.

Pop should be setting hard restrictions on his 3 pt attempts. He has grown too soft in his older age, he wasn't afraid to absolutely kill Tony Parker for doing dumb shit when he was coming up through the ranks. He's catering to what Wemby wants to do, not what's best for Wemby.

[Phoenix]

It will be interesting to see how Klay Thompson does. He's going to get open looks with the Mavs, but very different open looks compared to being a Splash Brother with the Warriors.

If anything he may get more wide open looks from a standstill spot and less reliance on using screens. Less movement at 34 and with his injury history bodes well...this is a best case scenario for Dallas playing out because his stroke so far is looking in mid-season form.

[Meticode]

If he doesn't quit taking threes he will never be what his talents suggest he should be.

You'd like to think the mental part of the game has improved from year 1 to year 2 but it is apparent that hasn't happened yet.

Pop should be setting hard restrictions on his 3 pt attempts. He has grown too soft in his older age, he wasn't afraid to absolutely kill Tony Parker for doing dumb shit when he was coming up through the ranks. He's catering to what Wemby wants to do, not what's best for Wemby.

To be fair most of those attempts behind the arc were wide open and he's very capable of hitting them, but it's on Wemby to control himself and find rhythm in other areas.

Unfortunately the three is the way of the NBA now.

[Meticode]

If anything he may get more wide open looks from a standstill spot and less reliance on using screens. Less movement at 34 and with his injury history bodes well...this is a best case scenario for Dallas playing out because his stroke so far is looking in mid-season form.

He probably will. Irving and Doncic are two of the best 1-on-1 players in the league. Defenses are usually going to collapse on them when they drive. Thompson is going to be open a lot.

[tontoz]

Nic to see Klay get off to a good start.

[Real Men Wear Green]

To be fair most of those attempts behind the arc were wide open and he's very capable of hitting them, but it's on Wemby to control himself and find rhythm in other areas.

Unfortunately the three is the way of the NBA now.
The thing is it's almost like Shaq taking threes. He's a better shooter than Shaq but it's almost as foolish because it ignores his overwhelming advantages. So long as he does this he's Rasheed Wallace. MVP talent but borderline allstar impact.

[BarberSchool]

Gonna spend all weekend gloating to everyone who smirked or looked sideways at me, when I said Klay will have a career year in Dallas, benefiting off Luka & Kyrie creating the most open looks in his career.

Small sample size so far, but Klay probably hasn’t seen looks this wide open since his rookie year.

[Meticode]

And that's a wrap. Down 21 with 5:40 left. I like what I saw from Barnes. I think the player who struggled the most was Wemby in the whole game. So many of his shots felt forced and he didn't seem comfortable.

Thompson looked great doing what he should be doing. He's going to get a ton of open shots between Luda and Kyrie driving.

Props to Lively and Gafford. They will be a huge key to the Mavs this season.

[Meticode]

Gonna spend all weekend gloating to everyone who smirked or looked sideways at me, when I said Klay will have a career year in Dallas, benefiting off Luka & Kyrie creating the most open looks in his career.

Small sample size so far, but Klay probably hasn’t seen looks this wide open since his rookie year.

Not sure if he'll have a "career year" that's a lot of ball to spreading among Irving and Luka who are going to average over 25 or 30 respectfully. I think 16-19 a game at his career-high 44% from three is definitely obtainable.

[BarberSchool]

Not sure if he'll have a "career year" that's a lot of ball to spreading among Irving and Luka who are going to average over 25 or 30 respectfully. I think 16-19 a game at his career-high 44% from three is definitely obtainable.
If Dallas keeps their pace where Kidd wants it, and Klay moves off ball and utilizes weak side day and screens. He can easily see 20ppg on 45% with far less effort than he exerted in Golden State. Which will equal more energy for late game defensive posesssions

[Meticode]

If Dallas keeps their pace where Kidd wants it, and Klay moves off ball and utilizes weak side day and screens. He can easily see 20ppg on 45% with far less effort than he exerted in Golden State. Which will equal more energy for late game defensive posesssions

I don't think there'll be enough shots for him to get that. We'll see!

[Phoenix]

The thing is it's almost like Shaq taking threes. He's a better shooter than Shaq but it's almost as foolish because it ignores his overwhelming advantages. So long as he does this he's Rasheed Wallace. MVP talent but borderline allstar impact.

Some of this, a lot actually, should fall on Pop. He's gotta reel that shit in when it was obvious that Wemby was struggling. But on the flipside, Wemby with a year under his belt and coming off the Olympics came off like his first few games last year, still trying to figure out how to best use a physical edge on like 99% of the league.

That said, I'll refrain from too much game 1 over-reaction but I was expecting more.

[Im Still Ballin]

Wemby had 9 dunks in one half as a rookie. The record for a single game is 13 by Shaq. His most realistic pathway toward offensive success is as a downhill threat. And a commitment to strength and conditioning is what's needed to get there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMYYPJfXX6M

[Real Men Wear Green]

He doesn't even need to muscle up. Just stand somewhere in the paint, hold the ball up high and shoot over the top. Only player in the league he would even notice while shooting is Chet Holmgren.

[Phoenix]

Wemby had 9 dunks in one half as a rookie. The record for a single game is 13 by Shaq. His most realistic pathway toward offensive success is as a downhill threat. And a commitment to strength and conditioning is what's needed to get there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMYYPJfXX6M

Yes that's what I was saying before, he should be getting regular gimmies just as an ever-present lob threat. It seems Iike he's trying to play too much like a 7'5 KD and he's not going to unlock his utmost potential dominance that way.

[Manny98]

Klay going to get so many open looks with the defense so focused on stopping Luka & Kyrie

Dallas are going to be the best offensive team in the league quite easily but I still have OKC & Boston slightly ahead because of their defense

Really wished they made more of an effort to keep DJJ

[Phoenix]

Yeah, Dallas is going to be a nuclear offensive team. I didn't realize that Spencer Dimwiddie was back with them either. At all times they're gonna have guys on the floor that can build or maintain leads. Klay isn't in his prime anymore but he may be Kidds on-court defensive quarterback. He may even play better defense himself because last night was a pretty cool 22 points without really needing any screens or what nit. He was just wide open and right place and time off Lukas feeds. Either he's gonna have that all year or you're dealing with Luka going off on you( ans Kyrire of course)

[BarberSchool]

Yeah, Dallas is going to be a nuclear offensive team. I didn't realize that Spencer Dimwiddie was back with them either. At all times they're gonna have guys on the floor that can build or maintain leads. Klay isn't in his prime anymore but he may be Kidds on-court defensive quarterback. He may even play better defense himself because last night was a pretty cool 22 points without really needing any screens or what not. He was just wide open and right place and time off Lukas feeds. Either he's gonna have that all year or you're dealing with Luka going off on you( ans Kyrire of course)I agree fully. Expending way less energy for his open looks, will leave more energy for late game defensive possessions, where he can still exert full effort, but only when most needed.

We all know having a likable chill dude who won 4 rings in a young locker room will really help their intangibles. But As for Kidd’s on court, vocal, super-smart, defensive quarterback, that’s another huge boost to the squad. Klay made the right choice to take 30million less to play in Dallas, versus the fake show.

[tpols]

Yea I mean Klay doesn't even have to run around like crazy to be open on Dallas like he had to on Golden State. Having total non-shooters for 40% of your starting lineup like the Warriors had with looney and dray made klay and Curry have to run that much more off ball to get open. On the Mavericks if they don't double Luka and Kyrie the opposing defense will get smashed and if they do it's an open Klay 3. He's not used to being this wide open. For one of Lukas dimes Klay was so open he took a practice dribble before the shot.

[90sgoat]

Good to see Mavs keeping it going.

I'd like for them to get some more euros, but you can't win them all. Klay is a likeable dude and honorary white, because he likes boats and reading.

[tontoz]

I didn't watch the game but i am listening to a breakdown on the Hoops Tonight podcast. Apparently the Mavs have completely changed the way they run their offense. It isn't just Luka ball now. Curious to see how this plays out.

[BarberSchool]

Did the Mavs get a new offensive assistant coach ?

Seemed like a lot of new sets, a lot of new actions to take some ball handling load off Luka. Kyrie is the best ball handling guard ever, Luka doesn’t need to walk the ball up. Whatever they discussed at halftime, and used in the 2nd half was def some really effective, modern actions and concepts.

Did Cuban steal a Celtics assistant coach ???

[90sgoat]

I didn't watch the game but i am listening to a breakdown on the Hoops Tonight podcast. Apparently the Mavs have completely changed the way they run their offense. It isn't just Luka ball now. Curious to see how this plays out.

Hmm..

I might have to buy League Pass and watch a condensed game.

[Full Court]

I didn't watch the game but i am listening to a breakdown on the Hoops Tonight podcast. Apparently the Mavs have completely changed the way they run their offense. It isn't just Luka ball now. Curious to see how this plays out.

I hope that's true, because I like the Mavs and the Luka ball thing isn't going to get them over the hurdle.