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Meticode
10-25-2024, 04:41 AM
What do you think of this? Steve Kerr confirmed after the Warriors opening win that he plans to play 12 man rotations consistently and he's going to lean into the Warriors' depth. Many NBA commentators commented that they don't think this can be done long-term successfully because of multiple variables. Injuries, egos, players not buying in, rhythm of certain players, etc. Even if he can do this for several weeks or a month it will be unprecedented because this doesn't happen for an extended period of time in basketball. It would be like in the MLB if you played every fieldable player (not counting the bullpen) a couple of innings every game for a month or more. Hell, even Tim Legler commented that when he does his basketball camps he doesn't even have 11 man rosters because he can't find the playing time for everyone.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41973637/kerr-flaunts-warriors-depth-12-man-rotation-opener

Im Still Ballin
10-25-2024, 04:53 AM
Depends on whether they're winning enough I guess. I like it though. Winning teams can look any number of ways, varying regarding personnel, scheme/gameplan, rotations/lineups/substitution patterns, etc.

It'd be great to see a high-level team playing a deep rotation. Many old-school coaches used to have deep rotations. Bill Fitch and George Karl for instance; Greg Popovich in recent times. It's harder to do because of how much power the players have today. You see it in college ball which is cool. Kelvin Sampson's Houston Cougars play a high-energy defensive game and its relies on their depth.

John8204
10-25-2024, 06:57 AM
They basically did that before Durant came along...they had their starters but the bench was always rotating in and out based on opponents. Curry and Dray aren't really ego driven players and Curry should hit 25K this season. If he doesn't want to chase 30 more power to him ring five means more. It's just really going to come down to the guys playing for those contracts on other teams.

Xiao Yao You
10-25-2024, 07:09 AM
They basically did that before Durant came along...they had their starters but the bench was always rotating in and out based on opponents. Curry and Dray aren't really ego driven players and Curry should hit 25K this season. If he doesn't want to chase 30 more power to him ring five means more. It's just really going to come down to the guys playing for those contracts on other teams.

Hes used the whole roster in the past but not 12 every night. Hubie brown was playing 10 with only pao playing big minutes when he was with memphis

Stephonit
10-25-2024, 08:39 AM
I've never understood why teams haven't alternated players on alternate days. It would allow the players who know they are not going to play to sleep in and get a good night's sleep especially on the road or for back-to-backs for example.

Real Men Wear Green
10-25-2024, 08:47 AM
I've never understood why teams haven't alternated players on alternate days. It would allow the players who know they are not going to play to sleep in and get a good night's sleep especially on the road or for back-to-backs for example.
Because your best players are your best players. You sit a bunchalf of them ands even if you're team is talented a playoff-level team will probably beat you. Old or injury-prone players should be preserved like that. Regular, young healthy athletes should be put on the floor.

ZenMaster
10-25-2024, 09:00 AM
Only variable for this not to work is player egos and them wanting to stand out individually as they feel it helps negotiating their next contract.

Kblaze8855
10-25-2024, 10:20 AM
Feels Pop like. At a hunch I chose two 2013 Spurs games at random and they played all 12 active players in both games. It’s a good long term developmental tool but I don’t know how much long term the warriors have right now.

BarberSchool
10-25-2024, 12:27 PM
Feels Pop like. At a hunch I chose two 2013 Spurs games at random and they played all 12 active players in both games. It’s a good long term developmental tool but I don’t know how much long term the warriors have right now.

Word.
Steph won’t stay until retirement for a slow development-based rebuild.

NBAGOAT
10-25-2024, 04:16 PM
they have the roster for it but gm will look for a consolidation trade. they went hunting for every star during summer i expect a trade before the deadline where the depth will get traded for a star

Meticode
10-25-2024, 04:20 PM
they have the roster for it but gm will look for a consolidation trade. they went hunting for every star during summer i expect a trade before the deadline where the depth will get traded for a star

What if Kerr does this and the Warriors have a Top 3 record in the league around that time? Do you think they still do a trade?

Real Men Wear Green
10-25-2024, 04:51 PM
Not exactly predicting anything here but Curry doesn't fit well in terms of the stage in his career. He's still great but he's turning 37 by the end of the season. He got to spend the summer with another all time great in the same stage and they played well together. It might cost them every first round pick through 2040 but if Curry asked for it the real move for him would be to join the Lakers

Meticode
10-25-2024, 08:09 PM
Not exactly predicting anything here but Curry doesn't fit well in terms of the stage in his career. He's still great but he's turning 37 by the end of the season. He got to spend the summer with another all time great in the same stage and they played well together. It might cost them every first round pick through 2040 but if Curry asked for it the real move for him would be to join the Lakers

He doesn't give me this vibe. I think he retires a Warrior.

999Guy
10-25-2024, 10:58 PM
The only reason it isn't done historically is because it's very rare to have 12 truly average or above players.

When GS trashed the Lakers by 60 without Curry in the preseason, I realized they have 12+ rotational guys. They can definitely pull this off.

L.Kizzle
10-25-2024, 11:01 PM
But only plays 9 in the Olympics.

Xiao Yao You
10-25-2024, 11:03 PM
But only plays 9 in the Olympics.

Thankfully

Meticode
10-25-2024, 11:22 PM
The only reason it isn't done historically is because it's very rare to have 12 truly average or above players.

When GS trashed the Lakers by 60 without Curry in the preseason, I realized they have 12+ rotational guys. They can definitely pull this off.

Except when it's the Olympics. :oldlol:

John8204
10-26-2024, 03:31 PM
The only reason it isn't done historically is because it's very rare to have 12 truly average or above players.

When GS trashed the Lakers by 60 without Curry in the preseason, I realized they have 12+ rotational guys. They can definitely pull this off.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZenElgpVEnt0-if2G-5L5Es1cQ2YzR0RHtA&s

We have however seen how deadly a 10 man rotation can be

tontoz
10-26-2024, 03:37 PM
That will definitely makes things easier on Steph. I think he was gassed during the 2nd half of the season