Wemby vs. Chet! Season 2 [GAME THREAD]

[Im Still Ballin]

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[Street Hunger]

Oh yes

[Street Hunger]

They both weigh 110 lbs

[highwhey]

They both weigh 110 lbs

damn, that's like 1/4 of what patrickchewing weighs

[Street Hunger]

Spurs up 8-2

[Real Men Wear Green]

I predict that Wembanyama will always be left open at three, even when and if he becomes a good shooter. You really can't challenge his shot and he's fast more dangerous as he gets into his effective range. He should do everything from 15 ft or closer. He can hit from further or than that but that's the range where he's devastating whereas on the three point line he just has a chance.

[90sgoat]

Sochan looks like a male prostitute.

[fsvr54]

Sochan looks like a male prostitute.

:lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Chet with the W. Not a great outing from Wemby.

[RachlNicholsazz]

Chet with the W. Not a great outing from Wemby.

That's putting it nicely. I'll make it not so nice. Wemby got his shi+ pushed in by Chet last night

[90sgoat]

Chet with the W. Not a great outing from Wemby.

What's up with Wemby?

He looked good in the olympics towards the end.

I don't think he fits on a fast moving team and in the NBA in general.

Pop has lost the plot letting all kinds of randos get way too much touch. They should play slower and let Wemby touch it at the Zingis spot at high post every time.

[Phoenix]

I think he's letting teams off the hook shooting so many long jumpers. He has a physical edge on 98% of the league and should be playing more downhill and around the elbow area.

[90sgoat]

I think he's letting teams off the hook shooting so many long jumpers. He has a physical edge on 98% of the league and should be playing more downhill and around the elbow area.

He also gets stripped a lot trying to dribble.

He really needs to look at Porzingis, they have almost exactly the same challenges and strengths. Less dribbling, more shooting.

[Neal Romer]

He also gets stripped a lot trying to dribble.

He really needs to look at Porzingis, they have almost exactly the same challenges and strengths. Less dribbling, more shooting.


Well he doesnt have KP's shooting ability yet, which is understandable since hes 20, and thats a big part of what makes Pingis dangerous. KP's been a pretty consistent shooter from all three levels the past couple seasons. I'm not sure the Spurs wanna sacrifice wins just to give Yama target practice this early in the season if hes not able to consistently hit those shots yet.

That said, I agree his impact needs to eventually come from shooting over mismatches and rim running. Having a 7'3 guy who plays like James Harden is a novelty and at first we all thought that kind of thing would be unstoppable, but then when you watch it's just like... kinda pointless. It's not really the advantage everyone expected.

People need to temper the expectations about him being revolutionary for now and let him just focus on ways to be a quality contributor.

[Phoenix]

He also gets stripped a lot trying to dribble.

He really needs to look at Porzingis, they have almost exactly the same challenges and strengths. Less dribbling, more shooting.

The league has also had a year to adjust to him, it always does. So his approach and how he is coached will need to continue to evolve.

[90sgoat]

The league has also had a year to adjust to him, it always does. So his approach and how he is coached will need to continue to evolve.

Sophomore slump is real.

I do blame Pop though, he doesn't seem to really take it seriously, year 2 of the tank.

[90sgoat]

Well he doesnt have KP's shooting ability yet, which is understandable since hes 20, and thats a big part of what makes Pingis dangerous. KP's been a pretty consistent shooter from all three levels the past couple seasons. I'm not sure the Spurs wanna sacrifice wins just to give Yama target practice this early in the season if hes not able to consistently hit those shots yet.

That said, I agree his impact needs to eventually come from shooting over mismatches and rim running. Having a 7'3 guy who plays like James Harden is a novelty and at first we all thought that kind of thing would be unstoppable, but then when you watch it's just like... kinda pointless. It's not really the advantage everyone expected.

People need to temper the expectations about him being revolutionary for now and let him just focus on ways to be a quality contributor.

What's ironic is that Chet is basically playing like that, a 7'1'' shooting guard.

[Neal Romer]

What's ironic is that Chet is basically playing like that, a 7'1'' shooting guard.

Holmgren is just a natural hooper. He plays with a swagger and just has a natural feel for basketball.

The analogy I would make in terms of a comparison between Chet and Yama, is Lebron and Giannis. Greek ended up being a little taller, little longer, and arguably more explosive and powerful in terms of raw measurables.

But when it comes to using their physical gifts for basketball... it just comes more natural to Lebron (and Chet). Better coordination, better balance, better body control. He can shoot better, change direction smoother, more acute vision.

Giannis had to really work to figure out how to use his raw physical gifts on the basketball court. It wasnt just a talent he had from Day 1 and I think thats true of Thicc Vicc too.

Lebron and Holmgren were ballers who grew up into freaks. G and Vic are freaks who had to grow into basketballers.

[Im Still Ballin]

Holmgren is just a natural hooper. He plays with a swagger and just has a natural feel for basketball.

The analogy I would make in terms of a comparison between Chet and Yama, is Lebron and Giannis. Greek ended up being a little taller, little longer, and arguably more explosive and powerful in terms of raw measurables.

But when it comes to using their physical gifts for basketball... it just comes more natural to Lebron (and Chet). Better coordination, better balance, better body control. He can shoot better, change direction smoother, more acute vision.

Giannis had to really work to figure out how to use his raw physical gifts on the basketball court. It wasnt just a talent he had from Day 1 and I think thats true of Thicc Vicc too.

Lebron and Holmgren were ballers who grew up into freaks. G and Vic are freaks who had to grow into basketballers.

I agree but wouldn't Durant vs. Antetokounmpo be a better comparison?

[90sgoat]

I agree but wouldn't Durant vs. Antetokounmpo be a better comparison?

I think so, Chet is very Durant like in style.

[Neal Romer]

I agree but wouldn't Durant vs. Antetokounmpo be a better comparison?

Those two dont really have anything in common athletically.

Im still comparing Chet and Yama, who are very similar in terms of physical measurables. And the analogy would be the pair of prime Bron and Giannis. But it's the natural feel for the game that separates one from the other.

[ShawkFactory]

Those two dont really have anything in common athletically.

Im still comparing Chet and Yama, who are very similar in terms of physical measurables. And the analogy would be the pair of prime Bron and Giannis. But it's the natural feel for the game that separates one from the other.

The natural feel difference is absolutely there but I think it’s a little more pronounced with one guy playing on a legit title contender and the other on one of the least talented teams in the league. Pop is great and all but Chet is learning at a higher institution at the moment.

He’s not the guy and gets to focus on getting better overall in a high stakes environment. Yama doesn’t have that.

[Phoenix]

The natural feel difference is absolutely there but I think it’s a little more pronounced with one guy playing on a legit title contender and the other on one of the least talented teams in the league. Pop is great and all but Chet is learning at a higher institution at the moment.

He’s not the guy and gets to focus on getting better overall in a high stakes environment. Yama doesn’t have that.

Kind of like Kawhi in his Spurs days. The weight of the franchise wasn't on his shoulders, so he was just allowed to develop naturally on a championship level team with great coaching and veteran leadership.

Saying all that, Wemby just had 25/9/7/5/5 tonight lol

[90sgoat]

The problem with Wemby is the same as with KP, the brothas won't let him be a star.

It's exactly the same, they freeze him out so he needs to take bad shots and so looks bad.

Pop dropped the ball. Wemby will probably waste his Spurs years.

[ShawkFactory]

Kind of like Kawhi in his Spurs days. The weight of the franchise wasn't on his shoulders, so he was just allowed to develop naturally on a championship level team with great coaching and veteran leadership.

Saying all that, Wemby just had 25/9/7/5/5 tonight lol

5 blocks and 5 steals is crazy. However..so is 4-13 from 3.

More than half of his shots shouldn't be 3's. I know it's been said before but things need to work differently through him, and despite CP3 being there I don't know if there is the overall IQ (including from himself at this point) to get him the ball in the right spots. Pop seems checked out which is fair. And nobody around him is good.

He's also 21 so I'll wait. If he stays healthy I don't expect it to be like this forever.

[Im Still Ballin]

His shot's not good enough to be an off-the-dribble creator yet and he's not strong enough to consistently hold position to be a post hub. Rolling and cutting is the best avenue toward effective offense right now.

But I do wonder whether they should use him more as a passer from the elbow/nail area. He's a great passer and his size allows him to see the court unlike anyone else; he can also get off passes that others can't. He should create scoring opportunities by being pass-first like Jokic. Use his passing to make it easier to score.

Pinch post, split action, DHO, give and go/gets, etc...

[Meticode]

Wemby is forcing way too much right now. So many times I see him catch the ball 20 feet away from the basket with the defender on him trying to break down his defender 1v1 like he's a perimeter guard. I know he's capable of doing this sometimes, but it's happening way too often. They need to get him sets.

[Phoenix]

5 blocks and 5 steals is crazy. However..so is 4-13 from 3.

More than half of his shots shouldn't be 3's. I know it's been said before but things need to work differently through him, and despite CP3 being there I don't know if there is the overall IQ (including from himself at this point) to get him the ball in the right spots. Pop seems checked out which is fair. And nobody around him is good.

He's also 21 so I'll wait. If he stays healthy I don't expect it to be like this forever.

I put alot of that on Pop, he needs to curtail his attempts. If he's open ok, but he honestly shouldn't be taking more than like 4-5. He should be getting at least 10 points a night off lobs and put backs, garbage points. And otherwise stay around the elbow and perfect that area.

[Hey Yo]

Sophomore slump is real.

I do blame Pop though, he doesn't seem to really take it seriously, year 2 of the tank.

His 2nd year in the NBA but like his 6th year as a Pro.