No thread on Biden authorizing Ukraine to use longer range missiles on Russia?

[1987_Lakers]

https://apnews.com/article/biden-ukraine-long-range-weapons-russia-52d424158182de2044ecc8bfcf011f9c

Putin said a few months ago he would consider using nukes if this was the case.

[jstern]

I wanted to create a thread about it.

Trump ran on ending the Ukraine war, which is going to cost many people, billions and the potential for trillions. They tried everything to prevent him from holding office. Including assassination attempts.

Ukraine has never, nor will it ever, be able to defeat Russia, even with longer range missiles. So clearly, it seems as though the people behind Biden want to start a major conflict, so that Trump could have a major mess in his hands once his second term starts. Which would mean more dead Ukrainian, more dead Russians, now with dead Americans, Germans, French, Icelander, etc. More people killed, as a punishment for Trump winning. Which would be beyond evil.

They simply don't want the war to end, so they will try to keep it going.

[ArbitraryWater]

Deep State Dems trying to cause as much dysfunction and chaos as possible as Trump takes office.

[Patrick Chewing]

Democrats want to start WWIII. Despicable people.

[diamenz]

thank god trump recognizes that this war is over. we can't get this warmonger out of office soon enough. for the sake of the world maybe he'll have a heart attack or stroke before the end of the year. what a f*cking nutjob.

[Bill Gates]

thank god trump recognizes that this war is over. we can't get this warmonger out of office soon enough. for the sake of the world maybe he'll have a heart attack or stroke before the end of the year. what a f*cking nutjob.

Putin invades Ukraine but Biden is the war monger for standing up to him? What a shameless little bitch you are.

Trump is going to look like a real man pulling out aid and allowing Putin to turn Ukraine into Russia.

"Make America Great Again" my ass, what joke.

[ArbitraryWater]

Putin invades Ukraine but Biden is the war monger for standing up to him? What a shameless little bitch you are.

Trump is going to look like a real man pulling out aid and allowing Putin to turn Ukraine into Russia.

"Make America Great Again" my ass, what joke.


Democrats exposing themselves once more.


You just cant help yourself.

Killing innocent citizens doesnt do any good you freak.

[Patrick Chewing]

Putin invades Ukraine but Biden is the war monger for standing up to him? What a shameless little bitch you are.

Trump is going to look like a real man pulling out aid and allowing Putin to turn Ukraine into Russia.

"Make America Great Again" my ass, what joke.

Ukraine is not America.


Trump is a deal-maker. He will have a resolution to this war in no time. The only thing the Democrats know how to do is spend money.

[diamenz]

Putin invades Ukraine but Biden is the war monger for standing up to him? What a shameless little bitch you are.

Trump is going to look like a real man pulling out aid and allowing Putin to turn Ukraine into Russia.

"Make America Great Again" my ass, what joke.

the war is over you grade a moron. putin has long been effectively the victor. this is no longer up for debate unless you're an absolute libtard. turn off your cable news.

jesus fucing christ this isn't 2022. have you taken a look at the territory that's been taken by russia up to this point? are you aware of the difference in manpower and kill ratio? putin is just short of parading down the streets of kiev and taking zelensky's head.

it's in the best interest of ukraine (what's left of it) and it's people to end this shit.

"oh no but putin wants eastern europe too"! man who in their right mind would want to govern that mess. use your head a little.

[Bill Gates]

Our grandparent's America wouldn't have put up with it. Germany invaded France and successfully took it. We didn't say "oh well, it's over, what can we do?" We took it back.

And that was when we used to fight with our actual lives and not our dollars. It's not even tax dollars either. It's money we just print up.

You all want to call it quits because you don't want to give them money we can create out of thin air? Absolute Cowards, all of you. Swayed by tribal politics. Your grandparents are ashamed.

[Hey Yo]

Our grandparent's America wouldn't have put up with it. Germany invaded France and successfully took it. We didn't say "oh well, it's over, what can we do?" We took it back.

And that was when we used to fight with our actual lives and not our dollars. It's not even tax dollars either. It's money we just print up.

You all want to call it quits because you don't want to give them money we can create out of thin air? Absolute Cowards, all of you. Swayed by tribal politics. Your grandparents are ashamed.

Your grandparents ate McDonald's

[diamenz]

Our grandparent's America wouldn't have put up with it. Germany invaded France and successfully took it. We didn't say "oh well, it's over, what can we do?" We took it back.

And that was when we used to fight with our actual lives and not our dollars. It's not even tax dollars either. It's money we just print up.

You all want to call it quits because you don't want to give them money we can create out of thin air? Absolute Cowards, all of you. Swayed by tribal politics. Your grandparents are ashamed.

then what do you suggest exactly? that we engage in a hot war with the world's largest nuclear power over a country that's already in ruins and it's government is as corrupt as the day is long? because us troops on the ground is quite literally the only way ukraine could win this war. i mean if you want ww3 then by all means, that's certainly one of the ways to get us there.

it's not about $ you idiot. it's about the reality of the situation on the ground that i just outlined to you. it's in everyone's best interest to end this conflict. it's over. deal with it.

[Bill Gates]

then what do you suggest exactly? that we engage in a hot war with the world's largest nuclear power over a country that's already in ruins and it's government is as corrupt as the day is long? because us troops on the ground is quite literally the only way ukraine could win this war. i mean if you want ww3 then by all means, that's certainly one of the ways to get us there.

it's not about $ you idiot. it's about the reality of the situation on the ground that i just outlined to you. it's in everyone's best interest to end this conflict. it's over. deal with it.

I think we should take out Putin yes. You can label it WW3 if you want. But it would probably resemble the invasion of Iraq much more than it would WW2. Overthrow the Russian Gov by force. Send a message to the rest of the world. Let them know we are in charge and no one else. Don't tread on us, because we will not sit down to tyrants. If he wants to play with nukes then he is going to wipe Russia off the face of the Earth and he knows that.

[diamenz]

Send a message to the rest of the world. Let them know we are in charge and no one else.

except that's no longer the case. russia and china are facilitating the global transition into a multipolar world led by multiple voices. gone are the days of a US dominated unipolar world and our tendencies to bully and intimidate everyone else and the mess we're going to leave in ukraine is a perfect example of this.

we don't thrive as an imperialist power. we're a commercial power and we should be the shining example of what every other nation strives to be. somewhere we lost our way.

[BurningHammer]

I think we should take out Putin yes. You can label it WW3 if you want. But it would probably resemble the invasion of Iraq much more than it would WW2. Overthrow the Russian Gov by force. Send a message to the rest of the world. Let them know we are in charge and no one else. Don't tread on us, because we will not sit down to tyrants. If he wants to play with nukes then he is going to wipe Russia off the face of the Earth and he knows that.

Russians have been so apathetic of centuries I don't see any real uprisings that can take Putin as of now down though.

[Patrick Chewing]

I remember 10 years ago the Libs on this site being anti-War and just anti-involvement period. And I remember how I just wanting to lay waste to the world and flex our muscles. And now look at how the roles have changed. Shit is comical.

[tpols]

Deep State Dems trying to cause as much dysfunction and chaos as possible as Trump takes office.


Remember March 2020 right before the Biden election? They did the same thing with COVID. Just trying to **** everything up as much as possible to screw Trump over.

It gets even more nefarious when you realize that Trump is just as in on the game as everybody else most likely. He runs in all the same circles as the people he competed against. Maybe he is some type of rogue hero, but its more likely everything is just going as planned from the umbrella up above the characters we elect.

[Bill Gates]

I remember 10 years ago the Libs on this site being anti-War and just anti-involvement period. And I remember how I just wanting to lay waste to the world and flex our muscles. And now look at how the roles have changed. Shit is comical.

That would have been more about the US invading the Middle East, which is a completely different story than Russia invading Ukraine.

I don't even care what "libs" want to do. They probably don't want to blow up The Russian White House like I do. We are both allowed to opine outside of our bases beliefs. And it is refreshing when one does. So if MAGA has convinced you to change your real belief, that is a shame.

[Bill Gates]

Remember March 2020 right before the Biden election? They did the same thing with COVID. Just trying to **** everything up as much as possible to screw Trump over.

It gets even more nefarious when you realize that Trump is just as in on the game as everybody else most likely. He runs in all the same circles as the people he competed against. Maybe he is some type of rogue hero, but its more likely everything is just going as planned from the umbrella up above the characters we elect.

Our Military Industrial Complex acts on it's own, outside of political parties. They tell Biden and Trump what to do, not the other way around.

[tpols]

I think we should take out Putin yes. You can label it WW3 if you want. But it would probably resemble the invasion of Iraq much more than it would WW2. Overthrow the Russian Gov by force. Send a message to the rest of the world. Let them know we are in charge and no one else. Don't tread on us, because we will not sit down to tyrants. If he wants to play with nukes then he is going to wipe Russia off the face of the Earth and he knows that.

:lol

Iraq... didn't actually have nukes though. Remember that? The WMDs...? They didn't end up existing. Russia actually has them. And their big boy allies do too.

This is typical "chicken hawk" behavior. I know for sure you never saw any military combat. Yet here you are... literally rooting for a global world War that will include nukes and total destruction, instead of peace.

All to spite Trump. That is truly a deranged, psychopathic mindset.

[Bill Gates]

:lol

Iraq... didn't actually have nukes though. Remember that? The WMDs...? They didn't end up existing. Russia actually has them. And their big boy allies do too.

This is typical "chicken hawk" behavior. I know for sure you never saw any military combat. Yet here you are... literally rooting for a global world War that will include nukes and total destruction, instead of peace.

All to spite Trump. That is truly a deranged, psychopathic mindset.

You couldn't even make the military. Not that you need to be in the military to be scared of nukes, what is your point again? :facepalm

[jstern]

First, this Bill Gates is low IQ, a moron.

Second, for years the Biden administration specifically refused to send Ukraine US taxpayer paid long range missile, to specifically avoid a direct war with Russia. So why the sudden change 2 months before Trump takes office?

[Bill Gates]

First, this Bill Gates is low IQ, a moron.

Second, for years the Biden administration specifically refused to send Ukraine US taxpayer paid long range missile, to specifically avoid a direct war with Russia. So why the sudden change 2 months before Trump takes office?

You have aspergers

[diamenz]

i concede my arguments so here's a personal insult

yeah, we know

[BurningHammer]

yeah, we know

He has learned from Patrick Chewing very well. :applause:

[Axe]

You have aspergers
:roll:

[jstern]

:roll:

You have blubber.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RZeZDDpaJE

At 19:12, Scott talks about the new ICBM and explains how, with such new technology, the goal is to launch it quickly and from a location that is difficult for the enemy to study, minimizing their ability to gather data. But, in this case, Russia unveiled the missile, aimed it toward Ukraine, and left it on display for two days, so that the US could look at it and point all of its intelligence gathering capabilities toward it.

Basically to send a message that it cannot be stopped, and that these people in Ukraine, England, etc, cannot make these decisions that get others killed and hide.

It's the most advance missile ever used in war. Used because the people behind Biden wants to escalate this war to a point where it cannot be stopped by Trump.

[diamenz]

the people behind Biden wants to escalate this war to a point where it cannot be stopped by Trump.

exactly. thank god for people like scott ritter, douglas macgregor, jeffrey sachs, and john mearsheimer that speak truth to power and pull back the curtains on the foreign policy establishment. not only do the neocons want to make ending the ukraine war harder for the next administration, but attempt to save face in fear that trump will end this war swiftly and expose them for the warmongers that they are.

[BarberSchool]

It’s sickening to read this bill gates co@k suckers posts, blatantly/disingenuously using various right wing phrases, and concepts to attempt to sell the regime change delusional dream that Bolshevik grandchildren have towards Russia … to western right wingers on a basketball message board.

Imagine being this much of a lying b!tch, failing at subversive influence in such a blatantly transparent, laughable way.