Seeing the baseball MVPs announced, got me thinking….

[Kblaze8855]

Having two leagues and two completely separate sets of awards really pads the accolades over there. Imagine if instead of having an Eastern and western conference when the ABA joined they simply moved a few NBA teams under that banner and had them operate as separate East/west leagues that met in the finals like baseball did. Peoples careers would look entirely different accolade wise. There will be a lot of kinks to work out, but I’m not thinking so much about the way to accomplish it. How many guys would be looked at differently.

Show Ohtani just won his third MVP because he and Aaron Judge don’t have to compete against each other to win them. They just get one each.

I’m not sure how it would look yearly with east and west conference MVPs off the top of my head. I’m thinking Jordan would be a nine time MVP just going off the finishes. Of course with separate leagues, the voting would change and all that I’m just speaking generally.

LeBron have like 10 MVPs? I think there was a year he was third behind Nash and Kobe so he would have an MVP that year. I think he would have it in like 2018. He might have it in 2014 when Durant won?

It would have to be at least seven or eight right?

I’m glad they don’t because the award has more prestige and I don’t know if I need to live in a world where Joel Embiid is a three MVP which I think he would be it just got me thinking….

I’m gonna have to do the legwork on this at some point, but I think Kareem might be a 10 time MVP under the baseball format. Kareem Jordan and LeBron have to flirt with double digits, right?

[Neal Romer]

LeBron have like 10 MVPs? I think there was a year he was third behind Nash and Kobe so he would have an MVP that year. I think he would have it in like 2018. He might have it in 2014 when Durant won?

It would have to be at least seven or eight right?

I’m glad they don’t because the award has more prestige and I don’t know if I need to live in a world where Joel Embiid is a three MVP which I think he would be it just got me thinking….

I’m gonna have to do the legwork on this at some point, but I think Kareem might be a 10 time MVP under the baseball format. Kareem Jordan and LeBron have to flirt with double digits, right?

Well it kinda speaks to how little relevance these things really have.

Lebron James has four MVP awards.

Is anyone without green Nickelodeon slime for brains gonna assert he was only the league's best player in 4 seasons?

So I mean whats the difference. If you win MVP in a whole league or just a conference, youre a great player either way. But it also doesnt mean youre the 'best' player either way.

Maybe in baseball it's a little bit different because it's more raw stats than winning, intangibles and narrative like in other sports. But MJ having 10 MVPs instead of 6 doesnt tell us anything we dont know.



....which is that his era was easier than Lebrons :crazysam:

[Kblaze8855]

Well it kinda speaks to how little relevance these things really have.

Lebron James has four MVP awards.

Is anyone without green Nickelodeon slime for brains gonna assert he was only the league's best player in 4 seasons?

So I mean whats the difference. If you win MVP in a whole league or just a conference, youre a great player either way. But it also doesnt mean youre the 'best' player either way.

Maybe in baseball it's a little bit different because it's more raw stats than winning, intangibles and narrative like in other sports. But MJ having 10 MVPs instead of 6 doesnt tell us anything we dont know.



....which is that his era was easier than Lebrons :crazysam:

of course it doesn’t tell us anything we don’t know about the people who already have a bunch, but it would definitely enhance the legacy of others. Kareem going from 6 to 10 wouldn’t do much for his standing but Alonzo Mourning and Tmac having MVP years would be something.

of course, none of it really “matters” But we have an awful lot of legends who just don’t have the accolades to back it up that baseball kind of piles on because of their set up. I think Kobe might have four.

[SouBeachTalents]

The worst one I could find was whoever would've been the East MVP in '04. The top 5 that season

Jermaine
Ben
Kidd
rookie LeBron
Baron Davis

[Kblaze8855]

Yea Jermaine would’ve won it. 61 wins?

he would’ve won, and I would probably have been Asking what happened to the game I loved

[RRR3]

Yea Jermaine would’ve won it. 61 wins?

he would’ve won, and I would probably have been Asking what happened to the game I loved
How good was Jermaine on defense for those of us who didn't really watch back when he was in his prime?

[Meticode]

Well, part of the reason why is because unlike the NFL and the NBA, MLB teams didn't play each other outside their league during the regular season until 1997. And even then it was within the same division only (ie: NL Central teams would only play AL Central teams).

It's kind of weird to name someone MVP of the whole MLB when your team never played half the teams during that entire season. And not until 2023 did every single team in the MLB finally play each other. Up until that time there were still teams that didn't play other teams the whole regular season.

At this point I think they just keep it for tradition.

[Meticode]

How good was Jermaine on defense for those of us who didn't really watch back when he was in his prime?

I'm not sure about his one-on-one defense, but he was an elite shot blocker. That season, if there had been East and West MVPs, he would've won because he finished third in the voting behind Garnett (Timberwolves) and Duncan (Spurs).