Wemby with 13 - 3PTA tonight

[Hey Yo]

Does analytics say that it's better for a 7'4 player not to use his size and touch inside, rather he's better off utilized by shooting 10+ 3pta?

[RRR3]

Gramps seething the game isn't the same as it was when he was kid in the 70s.

[Meticode]

Does analytics say that it's better for a 7'4 player not to use his size and touch inside, rather he's better off utilized by shooting 10+ 3pta?

Not sure, but it's boring as hell to watch when...

One, he has such great handles for his size.

Two, he has great footwork around the basket.

Three, for his size his touch is awesome. Very Jokic-esque around the basket for his age.

...when he goes away from his obvious strengths where he would dominate in it's just frustrating to watch and boring. I get shooting threes and being a respectable or good three point shooter. It opens up a lot of his game and makes him more dangerous. Especially for him, but...

The last six games he's played in more than half his shots are threes. His last six games he's taken 63 threes.

The greatest shooter unequivocally of all time? Curry his last 6 games? 57.

[RRR3]

Not sure, but it's boring as hell to watch when...

One, he has such great handles for his size.

Two, he has great footwork around the basket.

Three, for his size his touch is awesome. Very Jokic-esque around the basket for his age.

...when he goes away from his obvious strengths where he would dominate in it's just frustrating to watch and boring. I get shooting threes and being a respectable or good three point shooter. It opens up a lot of his game and makes him more dangerous. Especially for him, but...

The last six games he's played in more than half his shots are threes. His last six games he's taken 63 threes.

The greatest shooter unequivocally of all time? Curry his last 6 games? 57.
He's so thin he can't bang inside. If they want him to play inside more they need to run more pick and rolls for him, so that's on the team not him.

[Meticode]

He's so thin he can't bang inside. If they want him to play inside more they need to run more pick and rolls for him, so that's on the team not him.

He doesn't need to bang. He's so tall and has such great footwork he can avoid doing that if he chooses to.

And I know this is what the team wants him to do. I'm not putting it on him. That's the whole damn league now. A big ass snooze fest.

[Phoenix]

I think the best way to play him is like how Chris Bosh was in Toronto. He was too thin to bang so he faced up using his speed to drive, hit 18 footers and rim run. Bosh even being in the post would turn and face, Wemby at his height can do that and no-one can challenge his shot. One or two quick dribbles, pull up. One or two quick dribbles , fake, step through, and he's at the rim for a dunk with that 8 foot wingspan. Hell, with his length dude should be working on a sky hook. Again, whose stopping that??


https://youtu.be/5ROBBsQw6Ts?si=m3SPtpEGCj05FFlG

https://youtu.be/lrqqFX4ax-0?si=rrgSbNXwbDhWMToI

Wemby being a 7'4 version of that would be the best way to position him to use his size without having him bang. That's a coaching thing mostly.

[90sgoat]

I think the best way to play him is like how Chris Bosh was in Toronto. He was too thin to bang so he faced up using his speed to drive, hit 18 footer and rim run

We saw what happened to Bosh and Love with Lebron.

If KG had come into the league today, he'd probably be Jaren Jackson, just hoisting 3s and scrambling to give weakside help.

[Phoenix]

We saw what happened to Bosh and Love with Lebron.

If KG had come into the league today, he'd probably be Jaren Jackson, just hoisting 3s and scrambling to give weakside help.

Not sure I understand throwing Lebron in there. What does that have to do with Wemby?

[90sgoat]

Not sure I understand throwing Lebron in there. What does that have to do with Wemby?

The league is how it is today not least because Lebron has had the rules changed to fit his declining talent.

If the league called moving screens and hadn't introduced defensive 3 seconds, there would be 50% less open 3s.

Those two things create the game as it is today and it was mostly something Lebron took advantage of until other teams began paying attention.

[Phoenix]

The league is how it is today not least because Lebron has had the rules changed to fit his declining talent.

If the league called moving screens and hadn't introduced defensive 3 seconds, there would be 50% less open 3s.

Those two things create the game as it is today and it was mostly something Lebron took advantage of until other teams began paying attention.

I kind of glanced over that, because none of that stops Wemby from doing what I'm saying. I mean I didn't see the game but watching the highlights, he actually is doing alot of what I said Bosh was doing in Toronto:


https://youtu.be/YQLzeUVZ6Cc?si=qQtYXHs5YurqBS64

You don't see it? The difference is he also camps at the 3 point line and takes pull up 3s at a high rate. That's the modern effect and tendencies but he very clearly can also just post or work around the elbow and use his height/length/mobility to be a super Bosh on offense, but obviously potentially far more devastating because he has few if any physical peers.

[Phoenix]

Not sure, but it's boring as hell to watch when...

One, he has such great handles for his size.

Two, he has great footwork around the basket.

Three, for his size his touch is awesome. Very Jokic-esque around the basket for his age.

...when he goes away from his obvious strengths where he would dominate in it's just frustrating to watch and boring. I get shooting threes and being a respectable or good three point shooter. It opens up a lot of his game and makes him more dangerous. Especially for him, but...

The last six games he's played in more than half his shots are threes. His last six games he's taken 63 threes.

The greatest shooter unequivocally of all time? Curry his last 6 games? 57.

I was just looking at his stat page. 17.6 FGA, 8.6 of them are threes at 34%. On 2 pointers? 60%. That's simply not smart basketball, out of those 18 shot attempts no more than 5 of them should be 3s. And thats only because it's 2024 so of course it has to be in his game. But those should mostly be from pick and pops and not drifting around the 3 point line or dribbling his way into a 25 footer. He's letting off the defense when he does that but again, I blame the coaching and a bit surprised Pop hasn't reined it in. At 21, Wembys offensive IQ is raw and he's still technically finding his game and spots. That's where coaching comes in to maximize his effectiveness and I don't think he's being used to full effect. As good as his stats are now, I think he can easily be 24-25 ppg right now( he also isn't playing 36 minutes a night). He's more like 24/12 right now if he were playing full starter minutes.

[3ba11]

As long as Wemby shoots so many threes without being elite at it, he will never win or produce great teams because this skillset is redundant and inferior to shorter guys that shoot and handle better than he does.

So unless he gets elite at threes, he won't provide the same value as other 3-point shooters like Curry or whoever.. it's a complete waste to have a 7'5" guy shooting threes worse than half the league.. it's absurd... they can't win that way unless Wemby gets elite at it, which I doubt.. His ceiling is so much lower trying to be KD because he will fall far short...

[Charlie Sheen]

He doesn't need to bang. He's so tall and has such great footwork he can avoid doing that if he chooses to.

And I know this is what the team wants him to do. I'm not putting it on him. That's the whole damn league now. A big ass snooze fest.

If he is on the move to the hoop he is going to be at a greater risk to take falls... that is the highest injury risk to these big guys.

[999Guy]

He could easily Josh Smith his way out of a real high level offensive prime if he keeps this nonsense up. This is by far the easiest way this guy doesn't end up being GOAT caliber in his prime.

[Hey Yo]

Was just looking at the shot chart and he only attempted 2fga in the paint... converting both.

[Carbine]

Pop encourages this as well which makes it even worse. Nobody there to hold him accountable on this aspect of his game.

He may end up being the GOAT. It just wasnt the goat that was promised.... He will be the goat second banana.

[90sgoat]

I kind of glanced over that, because none of that stops Wemby from doing what I'm saying. I mean I didn't see the game but watching the highlights, he actually is doing alot of what I said Bosh was doing in Toronto:


https://youtu.be/YQLzeUVZ6Cc?si=qQtYXHs5YurqBS64

You don't see it? The difference is he also camps at the 3 point line and takes pull up 3s at a high rate. That's the modern effect and tendencies but he very clearly can also just post or work around the elbow and use his height/length/mobility to be a super Bosh on offense, but obviously potentially far more devastating because he has few if any physical peers.

That was very impressive from Wemby actually. This is how he will be a star, he is also a very good passer, unlike Porzingis, so yes, I think he should basically be Celtics Porzingis but keep passing the ball.

[Meticode]

If he is on the move to the hoop he is going to be at a greater risk to take falls... that is the highest injury risk to these big guys.

I don't disagree. It almost makes me think the Spurs want him to shoot threes for two reasons. One, it's the way the NBA is progressing towards team competitiveness. Two, they want to prevent him from being injured as much as possible because in almost every instance someone his height doesn't do well health-wise in the NBA.

[paksat]

analytics crack me up

bunch of dudes that have never played the game, dictating how the game is played

for instance the best way to put this - imagine for a second you have a reincarnation of shaq, only this time he's even more unstoppable at 8 foot 9 and 10% body fat

analytics will have this guy shooting 3's...