Olajuwon attacking the perimeter

[Reggie43]

https://youtu.be/f-eQxUe5sSs?si=gT_hp10EPSsd0_AB

Just smooth and effortless..

[sdot_thadon]

90s centers were just built different lol. Hakeem could do stuff like that and we wouldn't even blink, he was amaziing on a normal basis. Thinking about the guys he went against....Robinson's face up game was almost as crazy as that sometimes too. And although I didn't care much for Ewing his ability to attack from the perimeter was underrated. He was the 1st big I ever saw with a pull up game.

[highwhey]

this is what giannis and his fans thinks he plays like, but in reality, gianna would have extended that elbow the second he tried getting past jkidd and fouled the living fvck out kidd by ramming him into the next dimension and would most certainly have gotten a free trip to the free throw line bc how dare someone get in his way.

[fsvr54]

this is what giannis and his fans thinks he plays like, but in reality, gianna would have extended that elbow the second he tried getting past jkidd and fouled the living fvck out kidd by ramming him into the next dimension and would most certainly have gotten a free trip to the free throw line bc how dare someone get in his way.

Facts. Yanni is manufactured

[90sgoat]

this is what giannis and his fans thinks he plays like, but in reality, gianna would have extended that elbow the second he tried getting past jkidd and fouled the living fvck out kidd by ramming him into the next dimension and would most certainly have gotten a free trip to the free throw line bc how dare someone get in his way.

Yep, Olajuwon is Giannis if Giannis had actual skill.

[ralph_i_el]

Yep, Olajuwon is Giannis if Giannis had actual skill.

When the Bucks won the chip, Giannis played with the best footwork I've seen in his career. He can approach 90% of what Olajuwon did from the perimeter imo.

[Reggie43]

If he was capable of killing guards with his first step, the bigger guys literally had no chance to keep up with him up top.


https://youtu.be/7KQR5V8y9Lg?feature=shared

[90sgoat]

When the Bucks won the chip, Giannis played with the best footwork I've seen in his career. He can approach 90% of what Olajuwon did from the perimeter imo.

Not if he had to play under 90s rules with 2 steps, no pushoffs and carrying called.

[Carbine]

He achieved something I think is more important than any title, any accolade..... He was the best offensive and defensive player in his two year peak.

Wilt can't say that (Bill Russell)

Kareem can't say it

Magic, Bird cannot say it

Jordan can.

Duncan can't

Shaq can't

Curry, Lebron, Jokic cannot.

[ArbitraryWater]

He achieved something I think is more important than any title, any accolade..... He was the best offensive and defensive player in his two year peak.

Wilt can't say that (Bill Russell)

Kareem can't say it

Magic, Bird cannot say it

Jordan can.

Duncan can't

Shaq can't

Curry, Lebron, Jokic cannot.


No he cant :oldlol:

[Carbine]

Whether or not you agree, the consensus was at some point during Jordan's career from '88 until '92 he was considered the best defender in the league amongst his peers by the majority.

He literally won DPOY and averaged 35 a game in the same season....

[ArbitraryWater]

Whether or not you agree, the consensus was at some point during Jordan's career from '88 until '92 he was considered the best defender in the league amongst his peers by the majority.

He literally won DPOY and averaged 35 a game in the same season....


No he ****ing wasnt.

[Reggie43]

https://youtu.be/TZUjpeU1NFw?si=lVzetJm3QuFcPTwd

[Reggie43]

https://youtu.be/sFR6QHptZkM?si=7RNAJKCrXGfDu7vV

[Soundwave]

Most skilled big ever I think.

[Akeem34TheDream]

He was ok

[Reggie43]

https://youtu.be/8qfyB-3ldUI?si=CD6kiuftVUSjWvJo

[fsvr54]

No he ****ing wasnt.

He was in the conversation, kid. You weren't there.

[Mask the Embiid]

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https://i.postimg.cc/vZX2bFZK/0-C628-C89-9-A20-4-AEA-98-AA-948-F15419383.png

[Overdrive]

https://i.postimg.cc/L8kvvdPX/IMG-8932.jpg


























https://i.postimg.cc/vZX2bFZK/0-C628-C89-9-A20-4-AEA-98-AA-948-F15419383.png

Happy for you you got Caruso - a white guy ironically - now to put down Jokic. Didn't work out with your incompetent hero so far.

[3ba11]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-23-2025/s-f9dz.gif


And here's Ewing scoring a myriad of ways to lead a 22-point comeback in Game 3 of the 94' ECSF that would've given the Knicks a 3-0 lead (until Kukoc's miracle):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8s0coJz2o&pp=ygUQMTk5NCBlY3NmIGdhbWUgMw%3D%3D&t=02h08m45s

[HoopsNY]

He achieved something I think is more important than any title, any accolade..... He was the best offensive and defensive player in his two year peak.

Wilt can't say that (Bill Russell)

Kareem can't say it

Magic, Bird cannot say it

Jordan can.

Duncan can't

Shaq can't

Curry, Lebron, Jokic cannot.

Hakeem's peak also included 1993. He was 2nd in MVP voting and won DPOY, and was All-NBA 1st Team and All-Defensive 1st Team.

[3ba11]

Hakeem's peak also included 1993. He was 2nd in MVP voting and won DPOY, and was All-NBA 1st Team and All-Defensive 1st Team.


the media was a tiny group back then and fans didn't even know there were media awards... they certainly wouldn't have cared what a couple of stooges like Peter Vescey and Sam Smith think (or whoever was voting back then)_

This matters because Hakeem's peak was 94' and 95' - that's when his scoring repertoire peaked - it reached levels and moves that no one had ever saw him do before.. I attributed this to the king of the hill syndrome where Hakeem's confidence rose once MJ retired - he looked around and realized that he was the best.

[GOBB]

He achieved something I think is more important than any title, any accolade..... He was the best offensive and defensive player in his two year peak.

Wilt can't say that (Bill Russell)

Kareem can't say it

Magic, Bird cannot say it

Jordan can.

Duncan can't

Shaq can't

Curry, Lebron, Jokic cannot.

Wilt wasn’t? How would you even know. Defensive accolades weren’t even a thing back then. So how did you determine at no point in Wilt career where he was considered the most dominant big man. That he never was the best defensive player along with being the best offensive player?

Show me the years Russell was the best defensive player during Wilts dominance and how it was concluded.

[GOBB]

Kareem 74,75 was the best offensive and defensive player in the lg

[3ba11]

This guy could face up, shoot, pass and do-it-all

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kNwivnakRwE

[ShawkFactory]

This guy could face up, shoot, pass and do-it-all

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kNwivnakRwE

Very skilled player :applause:

Wasn't he also known to be kinda soft though? Like he wasn't that dude who was going to turn it on and dominate a game when his team needed. Different type of skillset but kind of like a KAT-type guy overall I think.

[HoopsNY]

the media was a tiny group back then and fans didn't even know there were media awards... they certainly wouldn't have cared what a couple of stooges like Peter Vescey and Sam Smith think (or whoever was voting back then)_

This matters because Hakeem's peak was 94' and 95' - that's when his scoring repertoire peaked - it reached levels and moves that no one had ever saw him do before.. I attributed this to the king of the hill syndrome where Hakeem's confidence rose once MJ retired - he looked around and realized that he was the best.

I don't recall that. Hakeem averaged 21.2 PPG and 21.6 PPG in 1991 and 1992, respectively. He then averaged 26.1 PPG in 1993, on the highest efficiency we had seen since his rookie season. That's a big leap, all things considered, especially when the league went from averaging 111 PPG in '85 to 105 PPG in '93.

26/13/4/2/4 on 53% given the era is insane. And I'd argue that Hakeem deserved MVP over both Barkley and MJ that year.

[3ba11]

I don't recall that. Hakeem averaged 21.2 PPG and 21.6 PPG in 1991 and 1992, respectively. He then averaged 26.1 PPG in 1993, on the highest efficiency we had seen since his rookie season. That's a big leap, all things considered, especially when the league went from averaging 111 PPG in '85 to 105 PPG in '93.

26/13/4/2/4 on 53% given the era is insane. And I'd argue that Hakeem deserved MVP over both Barkley and MJ that year.


That's what everyone remembers - Hakeem never did the dream shake moves like he did in 94' and 95'..

And it showed in the playoffs when he dominated at a level that he never did before

[Kblaze8855]

I don't recall that. Hakeem averaged 21.2 PPG and 21.6 PPG in 1991 and 1992, respectively. He then averaged 26.1 PPG in 1993, on the highest efficiency we had seen since his rookie season. That's a big leap, all things considered, especially when the league went from averaging 111 PPG in '85 to 105 PPG in '93.

26/13/4/2/4 on 53% given the era is insane. And I'd argue that Hakeem deserved MVP over both Barkley and MJ that year.

just a coaching issue. Don Cheney wanted them to spread the ball for a couple years there for whatever reason. There were disagreements on the issue. Rudy Tomjanovich wanted to play through Hakeem.

sometimes that’s all it takes.

[Carbine]

Wilt wasn’t? How would you even know. Defensive accolades weren’t even a thing back then. So how did you determine at no point in Wilt career where he was considered the most dominant big man. That he never was the best defensive player along with being the best offensive player?

Show me the years Russell was the best defensive player during Wilts dominance and how it was concluded.

Bill was known as the best defender in the league. When Wilt was the best offensive player in the league, Bill was at his peak defensively.

When Wilt was perhaps the best defender in the league later in his career when he focused on that part of his game, he was no longer the best offensive player.

If you want to include Wilt, it's still on 3 players ever. Doesn't take anything away from the exclusivity of this list.

[Carbine]

Kareem 74,75 was the best offensive and defensive player in the lg

That's highly highly debatable.

Rick Berry scored marginally more than him while having more assists that year.

Bob McAdoo was significantly higher in PPG though. He also performed very well in his playoff games that year almost averaging 40. Bob was also the regular season MVP.