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Kblaze8855
11-29-2024, 03:51 PM
I don’t care if it’s Kwame Brown under there. You gotta throw it in


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I did read he was actually pissed at Randle too it just wasn’t caught as well.

Bigs used to do that back in the day. Make you feed it or allow the turnover. Granted…they weren’t Rudy type bigs. I’m talking people like Hakeem or Barkley. But in that situation? Let him try. General principle.

highwhey
11-29-2024, 03:58 PM
just send Ant to phoenix and rebuild minny, what a waste of a season...should have demanded picks not randle.

tontoz
11-29-2024, 04:23 PM
From Rudy's perspective he has to cover for Randle on D all the time and then Randle won't throw in the ball right under the rim? Not good.

Full Court
11-29-2024, 04:59 PM
This Timberwolves team is very unlikeable. You have Conley, who's a great guy, and a bunch of douchebags.

imdaman99
11-29-2024, 06:07 PM
Randle doing randle things... :lol

Street Hunger
12-03-2024, 03:02 PM
Rudy was right

Kblaze8855
12-03-2024, 04:33 PM
The more I look at it the more annoyed I am. Thats a non scorer. Non scorers are supposed to be given the easy ones when you can. Keep them involved and playing hard. Feeling like part of the team. He was so deep that’s openly disrespectful. That better come up in film. I’m sure it wasn’t designed that way but you don’t need to run a play for that. Those are the gimme baskets the game just puts in your lap. I’d take it personal

bdonovan
12-04-2024, 08:21 AM
What Randle did is what we need to observe more in players. What he did (or didn't do) won't show up in the stats. It's a team-killing selfishness.

You see similar things on the defensive end, when a defender refuses to switch, for example.

That's why I think watching 5 minutes of watching a real game is worth a lot more than watching 5 minutes of highlights.

Whatever you see on the scoring end, you can figure out from the box score. Watching the intangibles are far more crucial to understanding what's really going on.

We often evaluate player peformance, do we spend enough time ranking the front office's performance? Minn was 56-26 last year. They are a .500 winning team this year.

It's not a chemistry thing as if they just need more time to gel. I've seen cases - all it takes is one player playing the wrong way for team cohesion to be lost. It's a vibe thing and contagious.

bdonovan
12-04-2024, 08:28 AM
Let me add here Randle's move there was like a person who is thinking more about their contract then the team.

Randle's contract ends end of this season. He can opt out of the player option and be a free agent.

He's got a player option for next year but he'll earn less than he's making this year. It's $30M compared to $33M- not major but feels like a step down and an insult. You want a higher paycheck, having better offensive stats matters. Sad.

RRR3
12-04-2024, 08:55 AM
The more I look at it the more annoyed I am. Thats a non scorer. Non scorers are supposed to be given the easy ones when you can. Keep them involved and playing hard. Feeling like part of the team. He was so deep that’s openly disrespectful. That better come up in film. I’m sure it wasn’t designed that way but you don’t need to run a play for that. Those are the gimme baskets the game just puts in your lap. I’d take it personal
The thing is, it's not an easy one for Toody. I've seen him miss a ton of looks like that. If it's not a lob I really can't blame Randle for not passing to him.

ILLsmak
12-04-2024, 01:13 PM
That's shit people do on video games, but it's less about make or miss and just giving someone a reward for doing something right. You don't wave someone from under the basket so you can iso haha. That's more shit people do online. I feel like no shit, some of the toxicity that people have put out from playing online has seeped into real ball.

Nobody would ever get 3 sec on purpose in the 80-90s.

Edit: actually, he ****ed up by sulking away. If he had just stayed there, dude would have had to pass it. He might have still got 3 sec, but it would have been a better moment.

-Smak

Kblaze8855
12-04-2024, 01:36 PM
The thing is, it's not an easy one for Toody. I've seen him miss a ton of looks like that. If it's not a lob I really can't blame Randle for not passing to him.


everyone on earth has missed a layup. That doesn’t mean you don’t give an NBA player the ball to take one every single time. Especially when the alternative is trying to take someone off the dribble.

It doesn’t matter who it is. That size advantage standing right under the basket you give them the ball. If they miss it reflects poorly on them. If you don’t pass it, it reflects poorly on you does long-term damage to trust.

Even if you genuinely feel they might mess up the play to not pass it reinforces a negative stereotype about a teammate and hurts trust which does no good for the team.

He throws that down there and it doesn’t work out? We don’t even know it happened.

The greater good is always passing that ball. Like I said, even if he ****s it up, you look like the supportive teammate for giving him the chance. And best believe he’s gonna go hard on the other end if only out of shame. Looking somebody off like that till the point you put a turnover on them has no upside.

Xiao Yao You
12-04-2024, 03:48 PM
Same as the guy they are leaving open on the perimeter cuz he cant shoot like rubio who certainly missed more lay ups than gobert as well. Throw the ball up to him and its about as guaranteed bucket as there is. Rubio never figured that out and threw bounce passes ar goverts ankles like randle had earlier in that game. No hes not the best at catching bad passes.

Kblaze8855
12-20-2024, 11:34 PM
It’s just personal at this point right?



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highwhey
12-20-2024, 11:43 PM
rudy strikes me as the guy very few actually like

RRR3
12-20-2024, 11:53 PM
It’s just personal at this point right?



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I see guys miss reads like that all the time tbh.

Xiao Yao You
12-27-2024, 07:41 PM
rudy strikes me as the guy very few actually like

Batum praised his long-time teammate Rudy Gobert, underscoring the center’s significance to France’s success. Gobert, a four-time Defensive Player of the Year, is not only one of Wembanyama’s inspirations. During their experiences together, Batum appreciates his battles with Gobert as a national team teammate. “We’ve had a lot of success because of him. Trust me, I’ve played in big games with him, and he’s won us a lot of them,” Batum expressed to RG. “His presence on defense is huge, but we also use him on offense. He’s a monster on defense, and I love playing with him.” – via Responsible Gaming

Those two guys really stand out when it comes to rim protection. They’re definitely top two in the world at doing that.”

Xiao Yao You
12-27-2024, 07:45 PM
Tacko Fall: Absolutely. There’s a lot. There’s Rudy [Gobert] defensively. Rudy has multiple Defensive Player of the Years. Great player. Pretty much everything he can do on the defensive end of the court I think I’m capable. Being longer, back-to-the-basket guy, low-post scorer. I believe there’s really nobody who can, once I have a good position, there’s really not much that anyone can do. So is this a matter of finding the right situation? Even Rudy, if you put him in the wrong situation, he might not be in the same boat as he is now. Many of these situations where people have him playing at his strength, and like I said, that’s all I need. – via :roll:

Real Men Wear Green
12-27-2024, 09:00 PM
Fall is still trying to make the league. He has to believe in himself and speak confidently of his abilities.

Xiao Yao You
12-27-2024, 09:42 PM
Fall is still trying to make the league. He has to believe in himself and speak confidently of his abilities.

Needs to be realistic. Boban should be his aim not a generational defender and future hofer. Delusional!

Real Men Wear Green
12-27-2024, 11:37 PM
It's just Gobert. Aside from you no one is going to be offended.

Xiao Yao You
12-27-2024, 11:53 PM
It's just Gobert. Aside from you no one is going to be offended.

Who is offended? Its hilarious.

ArbitraryWater
12-27-2024, 11:54 PM
Batum praised his long-time teammate Rudy Gobert, underscoring the center’s significance to France’s success. Gobert, a four-time Defensive Player of the Year, is not only one of Wembanyama’s inspirations. During their experiences together, Batum appreciates his battles with Gobert as a national team teammate. “We’ve had a lot of success because of him. Trust me, I’ve played in big games with him, and he’s won us a lot of them,” Batum expressed to RG. “His presence on defense is huge, but we also use him on offense. He’s a monster on defense, and I love playing with him.” – via Responsible Gaming

Those two guys really stand out when it comes to rim protection. They’re definitely top two in the world at doing that.”


Theyre both French :lol

Real Men Wear Green
12-27-2024, 11:56 PM
Who is offended? Its hilarious.
You're also the only person that is going to care. Sorry.

Xiao Yao You
12-28-2024, 12:51 AM
You're also the only person that is going to care. Sorry.

The trolls care. Cant quit rudy!

Axe
12-28-2024, 12:01 PM
You're also the only person that is going to care. Sorry.
:oldlol:

Real Men Wear Green
12-28-2024, 12:22 PM
I wonder if there is an alternate universe where there was a guy obsessed with talking about Theo Ratliff. And he still is.

ILLsmak
12-28-2024, 12:42 PM
I see guys miss reads like that all the time tbh.

it's grainy, but it looks like he looked right at him.

-Smak

tpols
12-28-2024, 01:10 PM
I wonder if there is an alternate universe where there was a guy obsessed with talking about Theo Ratliff. And he still is.

According to quantum theory,

There exists an infinite amount of parallel dimensions. For instance, one... possibly, in which you are not a homosexual.

I would imagine there is one where you know how to display proper manners and not conduct yourself in such an abrasive and rude manner but I cannot guarantee it.

All we can hope for is a little cohesion.

Real Men Wear Green
12-28-2024, 01:27 PM
According to quantum theory,

There exists an infinite amount of parallel dimensions. For instance, one... possibly, in which you are not a homosexual.

I would imagine there is one where you know how to display proper manners and not conduct yourself in such an abrasive and rude manner but I cannot guarantee it.

All we can hope for is a little cohesion.

You behave like a dumbass and get treated like a dumbass. It's not my fault that you're an idiot. If you can call me a ****** then I can call you a piece of shit. Don't be a bitch about it.

tpols
12-28-2024, 01:41 PM
You behave like a dumbass and get treated like a dumbass. It's not my fault that you're an idiot. If you can call me a ****** then I can call you a piece of shit. Don't be a bitch about it.

Aha...!

But perhaps it is. In the shadow and reflection of your brilliance my lord, we doth not wish to offend thee!

But rather the opposite. To greet warmly and settle our squabbles. So that the kingdom arises yet again.

Xiao Yao You
12-28-2024, 05:51 PM
I wonder if there is an alternate universe where there was a guy obsessed with talking about Theo Ratliff. And he still is.

Was theo ratliff responsible for making bad teams good? Was he the 3rd most impactful player in a franchises history? Capela, deandre, ratliff, tacko :roll:

GOBB
12-29-2024, 10:07 AM
If LeBron did it I don’t think it’s an issue. This is a classic case of who is who when it comes to which side people will defend. Because Randle has a rep as a ball stopper? Him not passing there will have folks saying he was in the wrong. Even if Rudy isn’t a sure thing to score there. If it was any other player with a different perception from fans I doubt Rudy would be defended.

You mention “I don’t care if it’s even Kwame Brown”. We’ve seen Kwame trick off easy buckets. So if Gilbert Arenas was involved are we really saying cmon Gil gotta give Kwame the ball there? Or are we saying smart decision not to pass to a guy who probably fumbles the ball first and misses second?

I’ve seen some offensively challenged Sixers that were open for a jumper or in the paint. And when the they passed the ball I asked myself why? But again I think it depends on who the player is looking off the other. Even if said other isn’t exactly much of an offensive threat.

GOBB
12-29-2024, 10:14 AM
From Rudy's perspective he has to cover for Randle on D all the time and then Randle won't throw in the ball right under the rim? Not good.

Randle passed Rudy the ball the next play for an easy two. Rudy fumbled the ball and turned it over. I get it. Randle has a “rep”. But so does Rudy. He has bad hands. You literally have to spoon feed him the ball where it’s a 1 step dunk or ally oop. If he has to do any gather, catch and move? It’s a disaster. So I can see why players would be reluctant to pass him the ball. He has more botches than being passed up like we saw. Ijs

j3lademaster
12-29-2024, 11:41 AM
If the big guy is adamant about getting the ball like Rudy is here, you give it to him. It’s not like he does it often. Last thing you want is a pouting teammate who’s supposed to cover you defensively and get boards for you.

Phoenix
12-29-2024, 11:57 AM
Yeah that was a straight up selfish and poor IQ play. Rudy had such a size edge there, it's either a dunk or a foul.