United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson shot and killed on NYC sidewalk.

[999Guy]

https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1864375224952611264

https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/video-shows-gunman-executing-brian-thompson-at-close-range-as-unitedhealthcare-ceo-stumbles-away/

[SouBeachTalents]

Footage of the shooting

https://www.instagram.com/breaking911/reel/DDKuvvLxEIy/

[Norcaliblunt]

lol. Gangstas get killed.

[Off the Court]

Obvious hit job, I can only hope that the shooter was the good guy here. But probably not.

[rawimpact]

I can almost guarantee you he is a victim or secondary victim of insurance policy issue or a provider that lost everything due to the delayed reimbursement from the cyberattacks.

UHC is being dropped by a lot of hospital systems because of their reimbursement being far below others... in some cases even medicare.

While they are bringing in record profits despite all the trouble they've been in recently with the cyberattacks.

[highwhey]

damn that sucks, almost like being a piece of sh1t has consequences.

[JohnnySic]

Damn. Looks like something that would happen in GTA.

[j3lademaster]

I can almost guarantee you he is a victim or secondary victim of insurance policy issue or a provider that lost everything due to the delayed reimbursement from the cyberattacks.

UHC is being dropped by a lot of hospital systems because of their reimbursement being far below others... in some cases even medicare.

While they are bringing in record profits despite all the trouble they've been in recently with the cyberattacks.

You're thinking of Change Healthcare who were bought by Optum. United is just the ultimate parent here, so if it was over that wouldn't he go after the Change ceo instead?

[rawimpact]

You're thinking of Change Healthcare who were bought by Optum. United is just the ultimate parent here, so if it was over that wouldn't he go after the Change ceo instead?



Yes it was change healthcare... but they are just a clearinghouse for major insurance companies such as UHC. Why would someone go after UHC? Well, maybe they assigned them blame for not using a better contractor? Maybe they withheld payments to providers for too long without finding another clearing house? No idea... I can tell you personally, UHC reimbursement affected my wife's clinic and should it not have been well established with diverse insurers... it could have closed.



The United Healthcare breach affected over 110 million Americans and enabled hackers to gain unprecedented amounts of sensitive data (https://www.strongdm.com/blog/sensitive-data), including contact details, personally identifying information and medical records. The CEO of United Healthcare testified before Congress concerning the breach, noting the company repels cyberattacks nearly every minute of the day.


Then of course there is the PHI that was leaked...

https://www.strongdm.com/what-is/uni...re-data-breach (https://www.strongdm.com/what-is/united-healthcare-data-breach)

[highwhey]

https://res.cloudinary.com/value-penguin/image/upload/c_limit,f_auto,dpr_1.0,q_auto/health-insurance-claim-denials-by-company_vhu67b

having a claims denial rate of double the industry average is wild.

[ShawkFactory]

https://res.cloudinary.com/value-penguin/image/upload/c_limit,f_auto,dpr_1.0,q_auto/health-insurance-claim-denials-by-company_vhu67b

having a claims denial rate of double the industry average is wild.

I think the industry average is skewed due to Medicare/Medicaid. But notice how almost all of the large commercial carriers are well above the industry average. Things like this are why certain people push towards a federally funded single payer system.

UHC has also been a problem for a while. They were the biggest offender of denying payment based on pre-existing conditions. Not condoning this but you can see why someone would have a target on their back.

[Phoenix]

Man the comments for this story on youtube and reddit are wild.

[999Guy]

Man the comments for this story on youtube and reddit are wild.

I made a post a month back or so talking about true, undeniable rage and angst the average working class boob has developed as we now enter this point in politics where the very real issues that were focused on in the pre-Trump era, are just now irrelevant. The era of Trump has created a situation where politics are only about this petty little social issues and this culture war horseshit.

We’re seeing an unraveling of America socially in real time. While people are being very cute with their vote, and politics is becoming like the WWE, there are people beyond desperate. It’s like ****ing Gotham. And it’ll only get worse. Undoubtedly. Corporations own this country, thanks to Republicans, Citizens United and white peoples arrogance, and they have zero ability or intentions of actually solving working class problems.

I don’t think there’s gonna be a true revolution, but chaos is coming, for sure. At some point, people will look back at shit like this and January 6th, and it’ll be obvious the turmoil was on its way but as of now people care more about masks, vaccines, ******s in dresses, and migrants. In 5 years it’ll be a batch of other horseshit non issues.

[highwhey]

I made a post a month back or so talking about true, undeniable rage and angst the average working class boob has developed as we now enter this point in politics where the very real issues that were focused on in the pre-Trump era, are just now irrelevant. The era of Trump has created a situation where politics are only about this petty little social issues and this culture war horseshit.

We’re seeing an unraveling of America socially in real time. While people are being very cute with their vote, and politics is becoming like the WWE, there are people beyond desperate. It’s like ****ing Gotham. And it’ll only get worse. Undoubtedly. Corporations own this country, thanks to Republicans, Citizens United and white peoples arrogance, and they have zero ability or intentions of actually solving working class problems.

I don’t think there’s gonna be a true revolution, but chaos is coming, for sure. At some point, people will look back at shit like this and January 6th, and it’ll be obvious the turmoil was on its way but as of now people care more about masks, vaccines, ******s in dresses, and migrants. In 5 years it’ll be a batch of other horseshit non issues.

It’s far more nuanced than trump. He was a knee jerk reaction to far left movements becoming mainstream.

Anyhow, people are unraveling now because their frustration has been brewing for a long time. Covid just accelerated that. Wealth inequality is driving people to the extreme. The middle class is being destroyed further and housing is becoming out of reach for a lot of people. That’s the goal of the ultra wealthy, obliterate the middle class. Homeownership will be a thing of the past. Why do you think theres such a big push to get rid of farmers and ranchers (global warming? ROFL). Its because those two classes own large amounts of land. These large corporations want to own all the land.

[rawimpact]

I made a post a month back or so talking about true, undeniable rage and angst the average working class boob has developed as we now enter this point in politics where the very real issues that were focused on in the pre-Trump era, are just now irrelevant. The era of Trump has created a situation where politics are only about this petty little social issues and this culture war horseshit.

We’re seeing an unraveling of America socially in real time. While people are being very cute with their vote, and politics is becoming like the WWE, there are people beyond desperate. It’s like ****ing Gotham. And it’ll only get worse. Undoubtedly. Corporations own this country, thanks to Republicans, Citizens United and white peoples arrogance, and they have zero ability or intentions of actually solving working class problems.

I don’t think there’s gonna be a true revolution, but chaos is coming, for sure. At some point, people will look back at shit like this and January 6th, and it’ll be obvious the turmoil was on its way but as of now people care more about masks, vaccines, ******s in dresses, and migrants. In 5 years it’ll be a batch of other horseshit non issues.

You alright? You seem pretty unhinged.

[Bill Gates]

It’s far more nuanced than trump. He was a knee jerk reaction to far left movements becoming mainstream.

Anyhow, people are unraveling now because their frustration has been brewing for a long time. Covid just accelerated that. Wealth inequality is driving people to the extreme. The middle class is being destroyed further and housing is becoming out of reach for a lot of people. That’s the goal of the ultra wealthy, obliterate the middle class. Homeownership will be a thing of the past. Why do you think theres such a big push to get rid of farmers and ranchers (global warming? ROFL). Its because those two classes own large amounts of land. These large corporations want to own all the land.

It's the opposite. The ultra wealthy actually need a healthy middle class to exist. You think Musk wants a world where no one can afford a Tesla?

Large corps do want land, sure. Everyone does. But they don't want to "obliterate" the middle class. They want to sell things to the middle class.

[Bill Gates]

And as much as the world seems like Gothem, both crime and murder rates are historically low. The United States was actually much more chaotic in the 90s. We just didn't have phones and internet to stream a live feed of the chaos to everyone.

[diamenz]

that's too bad. the ceo applied for another day of life and got denied because the service was out of network.

[diamenz]

:dancin:djparty:dancin

https://i.ibb.co/5jr2BZ4/Untitled.jpg

[j3lademaster]

It's the opposite. The ultra wealthy actually need a healthy middle class to exist. You think Musk wants a world where no one can afford a Tesla?

Large corps do want land, sure. Everyone does. But they don't want to "obliterate" the middle class. They want to sell things to the middle class.

You don't necessarily need a middle class for that. You just need to keep the masses just happy enough to not revolt, and hang on until robots can do everything anyway. By then we'll have no need of a class system, but we'll have one anyway because it's human nature to want to feel like you're better than someone else- to validate yourself. What do you think the heart of racism is? 'I may be white trash, but at least I'm better than those black people'.

[Bill Gates]

You don't necessarily need a middle class for that. You just need to keep the masses just happy enough to not revolt, and hang on until robots can do everything anyway. By then we'll have no need of a class system, but we'll have one anyway because it's human nature to want to feel like you're better than someone else- to validate yourself. What do you think the heart of racism is? 'I may be white trash, but at least I'm better than those black people'.

The middle class is who buys Teslas and everything else that the huge corporations make. Without the middle class their companies would crash, and they would no longer be elite. This happened during the great depression. Everyone struggled including wealthy people. Banks went under.

What would Musk and others have to gain by wiping out the middle class? Nothing. There is no benefit to that as it would crash the economy and "wealth" in general.

[highwhey]

The middle class is who buys Teslas and everything else that the huge corporations make. Without the middle class their companies would crash, and they would no longer be elite. This happened during the great depression. Everyone struggled including wealthy people. Banks went under.

What would Musk and others have to gain by wiping out the middle class? Nothing. There is no benefit to that as it would crash the economy and "wealth" in general.

but they're already doing it :confusedshrug:


you think making 75k in 2025 is the same as 2019? LOL. good luck trying to buy a decent house. good luck tring to buy the same luxuries you could 4 years ago. insurance premiums both personal and commercial have skyrocketed, everyone is getting an increase. no matter what liberal media says how 2024 had the cheapest thanksgiving meal in 30 years. people that were living comfortably just 4-5 years ago are not living so comfortable now. it takes 2 salaries to afford a decent house, not even a dream house, a fcking decent house.

the ultra wealthy already pulled the rug under us and you didn't even notice bc you read too much lib media.

[Bill Gates]

but they're already doing it :confusedshrug:


you think making 75k in 2025 is the same as 2019? LOL. good luck trying to buy a decent house. good luck tring to buy the same luxuries you could 4 years ago. insurance premiums both personal and commercial have skyrocketed, everyone is getting an increase. no matter what liberal media says how 2024 had the cheapest thanksgiving meal in 30 years. people that were living comfortably just 4-5 years ago are not living so comfortable now. it takes 2 salaries to afford a decent house, not even a dream house, a fcking decent house.

the ultra wealthy already pulled the rug under us and you didn't even notice bc you read too much lib media.
You're just talking about inflation that was caused mostly by Trump adding to the money supply. You didn't notice because you were reading right wing jargon.

The US has seen bouts of inflation much worse than this, and the middle class got wealthier anyway. Because wealth is much more than your work salary. People own things (that inflated in value) Cars, houses, jewelry, stocks, bonds, BTC, etc

Wages are outpacing inflation now anyway.

Every business in the country is doing amazing and hiring out the ass because they are selling out the ass.

[Bill Gates]

If you Trumpers really think this current economy is garbage you are going to be highly disappointed with the Trump admin, because there is simply no way in hell we can maintain this level of economic boom without a major correction over the next 4 years. Things are going to come crashing down. AND THEN, that is when you will finally see your shitty economy and missing today's economy.

[Hey Yo]

If you Trumpers really think this current economy is garbage you are going to be highly disappointed with the Trump admin, because there is simply no way in hell we can maintain this level of economic boom without a major correction over the next 4 years. Things are going to come crashing down. AND THEN, that is when you will finally see your shitty economy and missing today's economy.

Says the dude who thinks this past Thanksgiving was cheaper than it was in 1984.

[highwhey]

You're just talking about inflation that was caused mostly by Trump adding to the money supply. You didn't notice because you were reading right wing jargon.

The US has seen bouts of inflation much worse than this, and the middle class got wealthier anyway. Because wealth is much more than your work salary. People own things (that inflated in value) Cars, houses, jewelry, stocks, bonds, BTC, etc

Wages are outpacing inflation now anyway.

Every business in the country is doing amazing and hiring out the ass because they are selling out the ass.

:roll::roll:

[Bill Gates]

:roll::roll:

?

You don't believe that? Just go look at the stock market. You're completely out of touch. Our businesses are killing it.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.investing.com/news/company-news/amazon-reports-record-holiday-sales-small-businesses-thrive-93CH-3751498
SEATTLE - Amazon (NASDAQ: NASDAQ:AMZN), the $2.22 trillion market cap retail giant, announced today that its Black Friday Week and Cyber Monday sales event, spanning from November 21 through December 2, marked its most successful holiday shopping period to date when compared to the same 12-day period in previous years. This year's event not only recorded the highest sales but also the largest volume of items sold, building on the company's impressive 11.93% year-over-year revenue growth.

Biggest Black Friday in history. But the middle class can't afford anything?

[highwhey]

?

You don't believe that? Just go look at the stock market. You're completely out of touch. Our businesses are killing it.

there seems to be a a vast disconnect between biden admin numbers/liberal media versus real life.

[Bill Gates]

there seems to be a a vast disconnect between biden admin numbers/liberal media versus real life.

The stock market numbers aren't Biden or media, it is real life. People are buying shit. More shit than ever. Our businesses are reporting big sales.

Everyone is just blindsided by the fact that a loaf of bread is 80 cents more.

Do you have more wealth than you did 4 years ago? Doubt I get an honest answer, but most likely the answer is "yes".

[warriorfan]

You can just tell the poster Bill Gates takes it up the ass, Big Time.

[Bill Gates]

It's warriorfan, the drug addict who always talks about how wealthy he is but is triggered by the idea the economy is doing well because he has Trump's dick in his mouth.

[warriorfan]

It's warriorfan, the drug addict who always talks about how wealthy he is but is triggered by the idea the economy is doing well because he has Trump's dick in his mouth.

You take it up the ass bro. You ain’t fooling nobody.

[Bill Gates]

You take it up the ass bro. You ain’t fooling nobody.
I triggered you out of retirement.

[BurningHammer]

I triggered you out of retirement.

:roll:

[warriorfan]

I triggered you out of retirement.

Yeah you took it up the ass so f.ucking hard it made the site unban me.

Incredible, you are legit the GOAT at taking it up the ass.

Salute.

[Axe]

I triggered you out of retirement.
:lol

[j3lademaster]

I triggered you out of retirement.

https://media.tenor.com/6vjzHxepwDkAAAAM/pout-kiss.gif

[warriorfan]

https://media.tenor.com/6vjzHxepwDkAAAAM/pout-kiss.gif

https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php

he won’t let you give it to him up the ass lil squinty, you ain’t big enough

[highwhey]

I triggered you out of retirement.

:roll::roll:

[diamenz]

this thread went from great news to bill gates' usual 'out of touch morning joe elite take' to little d1cks in the booty.

[1987_Lakers]

Damn, you could see all the anger warriorfan was holding while he was banned. Literally every post he made today is just comments you see on WorldstarHipHop. :oldlol:

[j3lademaster]

https://www.worlddata.info/average-penissize.php

he won’t let you give it to him up the ass lil squinty, you ain’t big enough

Is that data what you use to determine which country you want to visit first?

[Axe]

Damn, you could see all the anger warriorfan was holding while he was banned. Literally every post he made today is just comments you see on WorldstarHipHop. :oldlol:
Reminds of the redneck jizzrag (you-know-who) who also got banned for half a year and has been on an excruciating period because of me ever since coming back from the inevitable.

[Off the Court]

I triggered you out of retirement.

:roll:

[RRR3]

I triggered you out of retirement.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[diamenz]

:roll:

bro. don't laugh at your own joke.

...and don't deny it's you either. it's clear as day.

[highwhey]

Is that data what you use to determine which country you want to visit first?

https://media4.giphy.com/media/JAsKtsJvzpd8k/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952i0huf4hny5e60t1j5cqgfn9zdwu4a 0jnyiob5dsq&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[tpols]

It really doesn't make sense that we have insurance companies middle manning everything while providing 0 value on either end... they're just milking profit out of thin air basically.

It's a scam. Many people probably died slow deaths due to this guy and many others when their treatments got denied, so this is only a small dose of Karma.

He actually got off easy tbh.

[ShawkFactory]

It really doesn't make sense that we have insurance companies middle manning everything while providing 0 value on either end... they're just milking profit out of thin air basically.

It's a scam. Many people probably died slow deaths due to this guy and many others when their treatments got denied, so this is only a small dose of Karma.

He actually got off easy tbh.

Well not to go to bat for insurances companies because most of them are a pain in the ass at best, but the value is that they allow people to afford healthcare that otherwise wouldn’t be able to. Even in a free market without them where doctors, device companies, etc. couldn’t charge as much where most relatively well-off people would be okay, it’s still too much of a burden for less-fortunate folks.

And even middle to upper-middle class individuals could have bankrupt-inducing charges if serious illness strikes.

There’s a reason it exists but it certainly needs some tweaking.

[Bill Gates]

Well not to go to bat for insurances companies because most of them are a pain in the ass at best, but the value is that they allow people to afford healthcare that otherwise wouldn’t be able to. Even in a free market without them where doctors, device companies, etc. couldn’t charge as much where most relatively well-off people would be okay, it’s still too much of a burden for less-fortunate folks.

And even middle to upper-middle class individuals could have bankrupt-inducing charges if serious illness strikes.

There’s a reason it exists but it certainly needs some tweaking.

I think he is suggesting it should all be government run. I agree with him. They are an unneeded 3rd party milking us all to death, literally. We pay taxes for the Government to protect us right? This should be part of that, if not the main part. We make military our main part (also for our protection) and our actual health is a distant second to that. Makes no sense given that even during times of war way more of us die to illness.

[j3lademaster]

Well not to go to bat for insurances companies because most of them are a pain in the ass at best, but the value is that they allow people to afford healthcare that otherwise wouldn’t be able to. Even in a free market without them where doctors, device companies, etc. couldn’t charge as much where most relatively well-off people would be okay, it’s still too much of a burden for less-fortunate folks.

And even middle to upper-middle class individuals could have bankrupt-inducing charges if serious illness strikes.

There’s a reason it exists but it certainly needs some tweaking.
The price of medicine and surgeries are set high BECAUSE of insurance companies, and most of the money paid towards medical are profited by insurance companies, not the actual doctors and hospital staff. If everything we paid into hsa etc were all going to hospital staff and doctors and doctors were making nba player money, I’d actually be way more ok with that because doctors are one of the highest value roles in society.

I know where you’re coming from with this; a good surgeon should be making 7 figures or close to it, so it shouldn’t be out of this world for a several hour surgery to cost 10’s of thousands if not into the 6 figures. I agree, which is why we need to socialize that burden, which is insurance is doing while taking a 1000% upcharge while pulling funding on med and surgical research just before a cure can be found, because cures aren’t profitable- keeping them alive and sick is. This is why Germany is lapping us in surgical innovation despite us being the global powerhouse and throwing more money at the problem.

[tpols]

Well not to go to bat for insurances companies because most of them are a pain in the ass at best, but the value is that they allow people to afford healthcare that otherwise wouldn’t be able to. Even in a free market without them where doctors, device companies, etc. couldn’t charge as much where most relatively well-off people would be okay, it’s still too much of a burden for less-fortunate folks.

And even middle to upper-middle class individuals could have bankrupt-inducing charges if serious illness strikes.

There’s a reason it exists but it certainly needs some tweaking.


Or you could just make it all public and cut out the billion dollar middle man. It's proven in European countries that the tax model makes health care cheaper to provide. And their facilities are gorgeous in Germany and Scandanavian countries. Insurance is a scam when it comes to health care.

[j3lademaster]

It really doesn't make sense that we have insurance companies middle manning everything while providing 0 value on either end... they're just milking profit out of thin air basically.

It's a scam. Many people probably died slow deaths due to this guy and many others when their treatments got denied, so this is only a small dose of Karma.

He actually got off easy tbh.

Saying the American Healthcare industry provides 0 value is like pointing to someone's tumor and saying it doesn't benefit their health. 0 value would be a huge improvement, in reality they provide negative impact all around from anything to price gouging to holding back medical research.

[ShawkFactory]

Or you could just make it all public and cut out the billion dollar middle man. It's proven in European countries that the tax model makes health care cheaper to provide. And their facilities are gorgeous in Germany and Scandanavian countries. Insurance is a scam when it comes to health care.

Mistook your original post. My bad.

But if you were to make this a reality, which I agree with, you would get the inevitable pushback from the short-sighted "conservative" government spenders asking who's going to pay for it. It would take time but large hospital systems down to small physician practices could cut costs significantly without having to employ entire teams and sometimes departments in charge of billing and denials management.

That and practices would (in theory) feel more comfortable charging less knowing that they're going to get paid for most things they bill.

Yes, premiums would be higher. But care would cost less (again, in theory).

[ShawkFactory]

The price of medicine and surgeries are set high BECAUSE of insurance companies, and most of the money paid towards medical are profited by insurance companies, not the actual doctors and hospital staff. If everything we paid into hsa etc were all going to hospital staff and doctors and doctors were making nba player money, I’d actually be way more ok with that because doctors are one of the highest value roles in society.

I know where you’re coming from with this; a good surgeon should be making 7 figures or close to it, so it shouldn’t be out of this world for a several hour surgery to cost 10’s of thousands if not into the 6 figures. I agree, which is why we need to socialize that burden, which is insurance is doing while taking a 1000% upcharge while pulling funding on med and surgical research just before a cure can be found, because cures aren’t profitable- keeping them alive and sick is. This is why Germany is lapping us in surgical innovation despite us being the global powerhouse and throwing more money at the problem.

Yea that's the crux of it. It would take a massive realignment but it could absolutely be done.

I've worked with enough greedy doctors to know that it would be difficult but it's better than what we currently have.

[diamenz]

It really doesn't make sense that we have insurance companies middle manning everything while providing 0 value on either end... they're just milking profit out of thin air basically.

It's a scam. Many people probably died slow deaths due to this guy and many others when their treatments got denied, so this is only a small dose of Karma.

He actually got off easy tbh.

my sentiments exactly. a 'mafia middle-man' between people and their doctors is all it is. insurance companies want to (understandably in a capitalist system) maximize their profits as much as humanely possible and that in turn has the unfortunate side effect of incentivizing them to deny people's claims as often as humanly possible. these companies have dedicated departments that go out of their way to look for reasons and find loopholes to deny people coverage in their moments of need. we pay these companies hundreds, sometimes in the high hundreds every month and when you finally end up needing them to come through for you they can just up and say nope - not happening. you're just asking for a revolution. this is what happens when you privatize health care. the profit motive makes these companies billions of $ every year just to price gouge you on the front end and deny you care on the back end.

honestly it should come as no surprise that this happened and when you really think about it you wonder why it didn't happen sooner. how many people have died or lost a loved one due to a lack of health care coverage? because someone hesitated to go to a doctor because they didn't want to face a diagnosis that they knew they couldn't afford to treat. or passed on a 'hit or miss' surgery because they didn't want to burden their family with medical debt. someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the comments on social media and youtube are crazy but that's because damn near everybody in this country - if they haven't experienced it for themselves, know somebody who went through some nightmare scenario with a health insurance company and got left in the dark in their time of need. it's a *ucking racket man. and as long as these companies continue to pay of our congress with legal bribes nothing's gonna change.

[ShawkFactory]

my sentiments exactly. a 'mafia middle-man' between people and their doctors is all it is. insurance companies want to (understandably in a capitalist system) maximize their profits as much as humanely possible and that in turn has the unfortunate side effect of incentivizing them to deny people's claims as often as humanly possible. these companies have dedicated departments that go out of their way to look for reasons and find loopholes to deny people coverage in their moments of need. we pay these companies hundreds, sometimes in the high hundreds every month and when you finally end up needing them to come through for you they can just up and say nope - not happening. you're just asking for a revolution. this is what happens when you privatize health care. the profit motive makes these companies billions of $ every year just to price gouge you on the front end and deny you care on the back end.

honestly it should come as no surprise that this happened and when you really think about it you wonder why it didn't happen sooner. how many people have died or lost a loved one due to a lack of health care coverage? because someone hesitated to go to a doctor because they didn't want to face a diagnosis that they knew they couldn't afford to treat. or passed on a 'hit or miss' surgery because they didn't want to burden their family with medical debt. someone mentioned earlier in this thread that the comments on social media and youtube are crazy but that's because damn near everybody in this country - if they haven't experienced it for themselves, know somebody who went through some nightmare scenario with a health insurance company and got left in the dark in their time of need. it's a *ucking racket man. and as long as these companies continue to pay of our congress with legal bribes nothing's gonna change.

I did some medical coding for a while a few years back. It's crazy how many stipulations there are. Particularly for a complex procedure.

It's almost purposely convoluted and they're banking on billing/coding teams not being able to figure it out on one end, and off-shore reps not being able to figure it out on theirs.

[BurningHammer]

https://news.sky.com/story/brian-thompson-shooting-monopoly-money-found-in-new-york-health-ceo-gunmans-backpack-in-central-park-13269331


On Friday, detectives found the backpack in the park (https://news.sky.com/story/backpack-carried-by-gunman-who-killed-health-insurance-boss-found-in-central-park-13268427), but no weapon has been recovered from it or from other searches carried out by officers, two senior law enforcement officials close to the investigation told NBC News.

This freakin' madlad.

[Media Moderator]

They need to get this guy soon. His legend is growing by the minute. UHG is the 4th largest corporation in America and likely to pass Apple this year or next for #3. Dude smoked a top 5 CEO in the nation in broad daylight and the NYPD and FBI still hasn't found him(although it appears he already left NYC). There are literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of social media posts supporting him. Even hot girls proposing marriage or at least a hookup whenever he wants :oldlol:


Amazing someone can get away with this as long as he has in 2024. Even more worrisome for the elites, especially if he gets away, is that there will be copycat assassinations not only of healthcare CEOs but all Fortune 500 CEOs as well. And though highly unlikely, the beginnings of a revolution against the societal and political elites.

[ShawkFactory]

They need to get this guy soon. His legend is growing by the minute. UHG is the 4th largest corporation in America and likely to pass Apple this year or next for #3. Dude smoked a top 5 CEO in the nation in broad daylight and the NYPD and FBI still hasn't found him(although it appears he already left NYC). There are literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of social media posts supporting him. Even hot girls proposing marriage or at least a hookup whenever he wants :oldlol:


Amazing someone can get away with this as long as he has in 2024. Even more worrisome for the elites, especially if he gets away, is that there will be copycat assassinations not only of healthcare CEOs but all Fortune 500 CEOs as well. And though highly unlikely, the beginnings of a revolution against the societal and political elites.

Would you hate that?

[RRR3]

Would you hate that?
Yeah, he's a conservative lol.

[Media Moderator]

Yeah, he's a conservative lol.

You obviously don't know which party has a more favorable opinion of corporations these days. We aren't living in 2000 any more

[j3lademaster]

You obviously don't know which party has a more favorable opinion of corporations these days. We aren't living in 2000 any more

If you’re talking about politicians, they’re almost all pro corporate. Just because you see Elon opposing certain corporations you automatically think he’s against the idea… but he’s only against his competition because Elon himself is the biggest corporate figurehead in the world right now.

But if you’re talking about party, the right are more pro corporate by far. I see rightwingers on here defending the corp tax cuts and tariffs all the time.

[Media Moderator]

If you’re talking about politicians, they’re almost all pro corporate. Just because you see Elon opposing certain corporations you automatically think he’s against the idea… but he’s only against his competition because Elon himself is the biggest corporate figurehead in the world right now.

But if you’re talking about party, the right are more pro corporate by far. I see rightwingers on here defending the corp tax cuts and tariffs all the time.

I've been meaning to make a thread for a few weeks now. "Today's Republicans are yesterday's Dems. Today's Dems are yesterday's Republicans"

It will be full of polls, surveys about the reversing polarity between the left and right in regards to trust in government, corporations, banks, big pharma, constitutional freedoms, tolerance of others etc

[Neal Romer]

This guy was so evil rrr3 took a government vax peddled by companies like Brian Thompson's United Health.


Stickin it to the man!

:roll:

[RRR3]

You obviously don't know which party has a more favorable opinion of corporations these days. We aren't living in 2000 any more
Democrats are also conservatives.








Dim :(

[RRR3]

This guy was so evil rrr3 took a government vax peddled by companies like Brian Thompson's United Health.


Stickin it to the man!

:roll:
Incredibly funny you think you’re some kind of free thinker regurgitating word for word what’s said on Fox News.

[Neal Romer]

Incredibly funny you think you’re some kind of free thinker regurgitating word for word what’s said on Fox News.


I honestly didnt even see the FOX news story about you rushing out to inject yourself with Brian Thompson's Big Gov, Democrat backed, Pharm Industry drugs, and then flexing pitifully online with TALK about how youre a rebellious anarcho communists telling Big Gov and Big Corp to go to hell!

I swear I missed their whole coverage of you doing that. It's something I simply noticed on my own.

[RRR3]

I honestly didnt even see the FOX news story about you rushing out to inject yourself with Brian Thompson's Big Gov, Democrat backed, Pharm Industry drugs, and then flexing pitifully online with TALK about how youre a rebellious anarcho communists telling Big Gov and Big Corp to go to hell!

I swear I missed their whole coverage of you doing that. It's something I simply noticed on my own.
It’s hysterical how stupid you are :roll: :roll: :roll:

[diamenz]

I've been meaning to make a thread for a few weeks now. "Today's Republicans are yesterday's Dems. Today's Dems are yesterday's Republicans"

It will be full of polls, surveys about the reversing polarity between the left and right in regards to trust in government, corporations, banks, big pharma, constitutional freedoms, tolerance of others etc

what the populace thinks is more or less irrelevant. what matters is how the politicians in both parties have their hands out to big $ and how late stage capitalism corrupts critical services like health care that should be a part of the commons in the first place.

[ShawkFactory]

It’s hysterical how stupid you are :roll: :roll: :roll:

Bro..

[Media Moderator]

what the populace thinks is more or less irrelevant. what matters is how the politicians in both parties have their hands out to big $ and how late stage capitalism corrupts critical services like health care that should be a part of the commons in the first place.

Right. Health care companies gave 6x more money to Kamala than they did Trump. Big pharma used to always give more to Republican presidents.. Starting around the time of Obama's second term they now give more to Democrat presidents. Kamala got 4x more money than Trump did from Big Pharma.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U

From top to bottom the biggest donation beneficiaries from Big Pharma and health care companies. This list is from 1990-2024. Note almost all the Republicans are from 1990-2010

Harris, Kamala (D)
Biden, Joe (D)
Obama, Barack (D)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Romney, Mitt (R-UT)
Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT)
Eshoo, Anna (D-CA)
McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA)
Pallone, Frank Jr (D-NJ
Casey, Bob (D-PA)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT)
Guthrie, Brett (R-KY)
Upton, Fred (R-MI)
Warnock, Raphael (D-GA)
Burr, Richard (R-NC)
Murray, Patty (D-WA)
Peters, Scott (D-CA)
Schumer, Charles E (D-NY)
Menendez, Robert (I-NJ)

Where's Trump? :oldlol: Kamala also received money from 62% US billionaires vs only 38% of billionaires to Trump, among those who disclosed who they donated to

[highwhey]

Right. Health care companies gave 6x more money to Kamala than they did Trump. Big pharma used to always give more to Republican presidents.. Starting around the time of Obama's second term they now give more to Democrat presidents. Kamala got 4x more money than Trump did from Big Pharma.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U

From top to bottom the biggest donation beneficiaries from Big Pharma and health care companies. This list is from 1990-2024. Note almost all the Republicans are from 1990-2010

Harris, Kamala (D)
Biden, Joe (D)
Obama, Barack (D)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Romney, Mitt (R-UT)
Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT)
Eshoo, Anna (D-CA)
McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA)
Pallone, Frank Jr (D-NJ
Casey, Bob (D-PA)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT)
Guthrie, Brett (R-KY)
Upton, Fred (R-MI)
Warnock, Raphael (D-GA)
Burr, Richard (R-NC)
Murray, Patty (D-WA)
Peters, Scott (D-CA)
Schumer, Charles E (D-NY)
Menendez, Robert (I-NJ)

Where's Trump? :oldlol: Kamala also received money from 62% US billionaires vs only 38% of billionaires to Trump, among those who disclosed who they donated to

the issue isn't exclusive to either party, it seems like regardless of who's in office these health insurance companies win.

[RRR3]

Bro..
What

[diamenz]

Right. Health care companies gave 6x more money to Kamala than they did Trump. Big pharma used to always give more to Republican presidents.. Starting around the time of Obama's second term they now give more to Democrat presidents. Kamala got 4x more money than Trump did from Big Pharma.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U

From top to bottom the biggest donation beneficiaries from Big Pharma and health care companies. This list is from 1990-2024. Note almost all the Republicans are from 1990-2010

Harris, Kamala (D)
Biden, Joe (D)
Obama, Barack (D)
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY)
Romney, Mitt (R-UT)
Hatch, Orrin G (R-UT)
Eshoo, Anna (D-CA)
McCarthy, Kevin (R-CA)
Pallone, Frank Jr (D-NJ
Casey, Bob (D-PA)
McConnell, Mitch (R-KY)
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT)
Guthrie, Brett (R-KY)
Upton, Fred (R-MI)
Warnock, Raphael (D-GA)
Burr, Richard (R-NC)
Murray, Patty (D-WA)
Peters, Scott (D-CA)
Schumer, Charles E (D-NY)
Menendez, Robert (I-NJ)

Where's Trump? :oldlol: Kamala also received money from 62% US billionaires vs only 38% of billionaires to Trump, among those who disclosed who they donated to

wow that's... dumbfounding. i guess you did have a legitimate argument. a few things:

i doubt that list is adjusted for inflation. if it were, i wonder how comparable nineties democrats would be to today's. probably similar but it should be assumed that corruption has gotten worse over the years and kamala, joe and the other usual stooges would still top the list.

why is bernie on that list? i mean it's understandable that he would be due to his longevity but why would he be taking any $ from insurance companies and big pharma? guy's the #1 proponentof a single payer system and has been fighting for it for his entire career.

i'm one of the last guys to defend the democrats but like highwhey said, let's not front and act like republicans deserve a break here. they're clearly just as much a part of the problem. democrats just deserve extra scrutiny now, especially considering that they claim to be the ones fighting for the little guy.

trump may not be on the list and good for him, but again let's not front and act like he's going to take any action. strangely enough, he's praised single payer systems in the past and even pledged to "cover everybody" in 2016. the kicker here is that doge may discover that's it's cheaper to run a singlepayer system. it couldn't be any more clear that what we have now is absolutely not cost efficient for individuals or on a macroeconomic level. imagine elon and vivek announcing something like that publicly, getting the media talking, trump getting behind it and pushing congress to then get behind him. a far-fetched scenario obviously but wouldn't that be the ultimate kick in the face to the dems.

at any rate, i think all of us can agree that the insurance companies are the problem in all of this. whether you're for a free market or single payer system, we have neither. we have the illusion of choice but it's perverted because you're bound to your employer for coverage (which you of course have no choice over) and if you go non-subsidized, hc companies change state to state preventing them from competing and you're paying out the ass.

[diamenz]

here's another wowzer. look at how heavy hc is on this list:

https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/top-spenders

[BurningHammer]

Here’s what authorities are still trying to find:

* The confirmed identity of the suspect
* The weapon used in the shooting
* The bicycle the suspect used to get away

And here are some of the key pieces of evidence they’ve gathered:

* Images of the suspect’s unmasked face
* Video evidence of the path he took to escape
* A backpack possibly worn by the suspect, with a jacket inside
* DNA from a discarded Starbucks water bottle
* A partial fingerprint from the water bottle
* A discarded “burner” cell phone
* 9 mm shell casings with the words “delay,” “deny” and “depose” written on them


Actual CSI NY is working very hard to get the DNA at this point.

[ILLsmak]

This case is sketchy in many ways. Something is going on that we don't know about.

The surprising thing is how heinous some of the comments that people are making online. I think health insurance is absolute dog shit as well, and they do people dirty as ****, and supposedly this one was the worst, but I can't draw the line between that and wishing a ceo gets shot or calling for some kind of a violent uprising against insurance companies. I hope those people are just venting, but wow, I've been around and I've never seen people say wild shit like this. Even dudes weren't calling for stuff like Bush or Cheney to die back when they were enemy 1.

-Smak

[rawimpact]

Actual CSI NY is working very hard to get the DNA at this point.

That starbucks run is def. going to end up costing this guy. For someone to have thought all this through and decided to reveal his face flirtatiously? Bizarre...

[j3lademaster]

That starbucks run is def. going to end up costing this guy. For someone to have thought all this through and decided to reveal his face flirtatiously? Bizarre...

He wants to build up his notoriety and eventually get caught or turn himself in, where news networks will be wet as hell trying to get interviews with him and he can tell his story.

Did you hear about the monopoly money? Dude is full on Gotham Joker'ing in real life.

His Netflix special starring Jake Gyllenhaal is gonna be fire.

[SouBeachTalents]

Looks like they might have caught him

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html

[highwhey]

Looks like they might have caught him

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html

:(

[RRR3]

Looks like they might have caught him

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/brian-thompson-unitedhealthcare-death-investigation-12-9-24/index.html
Killing a serial killer gets punished lol

[Media Moderator]

Yeah they think they got him. Dude's going to be a rockstar

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GeYMhDDX0AAXrmq?format=jpg&name=large

[j3lademaster]

Killing a serial killer gets punished lol

Western society picks individual like how the italian mob names their 'made' men.

Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist. Freely shoot please.

Netanyahu. Not a terrorist, shooting him would be an act of war.

In this case, Brian Thompson is a made man and is a off limits.

[Hey Yo]

At this time, he is believed to be our person of interest in the brazen, targeted murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of UnitedHealthcare, last Wednesday in midtown Manhattan,” Tisch said.

Mangione was arrested on firearms charges, Tisch said. NYPD detectives are on their way to Pennsylvania, where they hope to interview the suspect further, she noted.

Mangione was found carrying multiple fraudulent IDs, a US passport, a firearm and suppressor “consistent with the weapon used in the murder,” Tisch said.

[Media Moderator]

He has a Masters in computer science. Looks like he wanted to be a video game maker right out of high school, and appeared popular in high school as well.

His Twitter is still up

https://x.com/PepMangione/with_replies?lang=en

Huge fan of physical fitness
Not a big fan of Jordan Peterson
Possibly anti-immigration
Looks like a proponent of reducing human population
Hard to pin down so far a political ideology

[Hey Yo]

His cousin's a Maryland state delegate

[j3lademaster]

He has a Masters in computer science. Looks like he wanted to be a video game maker right out of high school, and appeared popular in high school as well.

His Twitter is still up

https://x.com/PepMangione/with_replies?lang=en

Huge fan of physical fitness
Not a big fan of Jordan Peterson
Possibly anti-immigration
Looks like a proponent of reducing human population
Hard to pin down so far a political ideologyThose are pretty popular takes. I'm all for strong borders and deporting illegal immigrants, I just want to hear a plan how we're going to deport illegals before we freely start rounding up anyone who looks mexican like it's the 3rd reich(el tercher reich in our case?). We need to slow down population so businesses have to compete for our labor, not us for jobs and high pop hurts the planet too much.

As far as JP, he's obviously very intelligent and I remember listening to a youtube on his philosophy on raising kids and mostly agreed with him. I don't know much else about him to form an educated overall opinion.

[highwhey]

Those are pretty popular takes. I'm all for strong borders and deporting illegal immigrants, I just want to hear a plan how we're going to deport illegals before we freely start rounding up anyone who looks mexican like it's the 3rd reich(el tercher reich in our case?). We need to slow down population so businesses have to compete for our labor, not us for jobs and high pop hurts the planet too much.

As far as JP, he's obviously very intelligent and I remember listening to a youtube on his philosophy on raising kids and mostly agreed with him. I don't know much else about him to form an educated overall opinion.

idc at this stage of my life. i'll gladly show anyone my driver's license but the moment i start getting profiled, check the newspaper.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/GjYnBASmDhkAAAAd/val-kilmer-heat.gif

[Hey Yo]

Those are pretty popular takes. I'm all for strong borders and deporting illegal immigrants, I just want to hear a plan how we're going to deport illegals before we freely start rounding up anyone who looks mexican like it's the 3rd reich(el tercher reich in our case?). We need to slow down population so businesses have to compete for our labor, not us for jobs and high pop hurts the planet too much.


As far as JP, he's obviously very intelligent and I remember listening to a youtube on his philosophy on raising kids and mostly agreed with him. I don't know much else about him to form an educated overall opinion.
:oldlol: no you aren't, if you were you would've voted for Trump. Instead you voted for a chick who would've kept the borders open and you think could do just as good of job of running the country as Trump. She couldn't even run a campaign!

[RRR3]

:oldlol: no you aren't, if you were you would've voted for Trump. Instead you voted for a chick who you think could do just as good of job of running the country as Trump. She couldn't even run a campaign!
Both parties are for deportations.

[highwhey]

He has a Masters in computer science. Looks like he wanted to be a video game maker right out of high school, and appeared popular in high school as well.

His Twitter is still up

https://x.com/PepMangione/with_replies?lang=en

Huge fan of physical fitness
Not a big fan of Jordan Peterson
Possibly anti-immigration
Looks like a proponent of reducing human population
Hard to pin down so far a political ideology

sounds like MAGA FAGz will not like him much after learning this.

[Hey Yo]

Both parties are for deportations.

:lol

[j3lademaster]

:oldlol: no you aren't, if you were you would've voted for Trump. Instead you voted for a chick who would've kept the borders open and you think could do just as good of job of running the country as Trump. She couldn't even run a campaign!
Trump isn't for strong borders either, he ran on it for divide and hate. He had a majority house when he got in and his priority was obvious- corporate tax cuts.

[j3lademaster]

idc at this stage of my life. i'll gladly show anyone my driver's license but the moment i start getting profiled, check the newspaper.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/GjYnBASmDhkAAAAd/val-kilmer-heat.gif

If you go back to ww2 when we were put Japanese people in camps to make sure they weren't spies, we ended up throwing just any asian citizen in there. Sure, they were released months after, but imagine coming back to no job, no home... whatever. Similar things happened under Obama's deportations, which I supported at the time and still 80% support in hindsight. Maybe you won't be deported, but being thrown in there for 'processing' while they **** over your life doesn't seem like a good time, I'm just saying to be careful with stuff like this. In real life there's no magic wand we can wave to just make things happen, most things done in this scale is going to have a ton of trial and error and logistical issues. And we should keep illegals who bring value. If I have a former surgeon refugee from Honduras, give that guy a few years to polish his english and see how he does on the mcats, we need all the talent we can get to remain the global powerhouse.

[RRR3]

:lol
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/biden-deportation-record

[highwhey]

If you go back to ww2 when we were put Japanese people in camps to make sure they weren't spies, we ended up throwing just any asian citizen in there. Sure, they were released months after, but imagine coming back to no job, no home... whatever. Similar things happened under Obama's deportations, which I supported at the time and still 80% support in hindsight. Maybe you won't be deported, but being thrown in there for 'processing' while they **** over your life doesn't seem like a good time, I'm just saying to be careful with stuff like this. In real life there's no magic wand we can wave to just make things happen, most things done in this scale is going to have a ton of trial and error and logistical issues. And we should keep illegals who bring value. If I have a former surgeon refugee from Honduras, give that guy a few years to polish his english and see how he does on the mcats, we need all the talent we can get to remain the global powerhouse.

yeah, it would disrupt anyone's life.

[diamenz]

idc at this stage of my life. i'll gladly show anyone my driver's license but the moment i start getting profiled, check the newspaper.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/GjYnBASmDhkAAAAd/val-kilmer-heat.gif

what about all of those hot college blondes man?

[diamenz]

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Reverses Planned Anesthesia Time Limits—After Intense Pushback (https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2024/12/06/anthem-blue-cross-blue-shield-reverses-planned-anesthesia-time-limits-after-intense-pushback/)

who says a revolution isn't effective? you either just have to start offing prominent individuals or people in mass.

[BurningHammer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhs9g3Wwg0

It's him, Luigi, the hero of this timeline.

This channel may be banned soon though so watch it while you can.

[highwhey]

what about all of those hot college blondes man?

my ego would keep me up at night if i allowed some mouthbreather in a uniform to profile me and put me in cuffs for being brown...i'm very nice otherwise, but i draw a hard line on stuff like that.

[diamenz]

my ego would keep me up at night if i allowed some mouthbreather in a uniform to profile me and put me in cuffs for being brown...i'm very nice otherwise, but i draw a hard line on stuff like that.

well, take solace in the fact that you're considered the 'lesser evil' type of brown. otherwise you'd be getting bombed on a daily by the us government.

[BurningHammer]

The alleged shooter left this message on Ted "Unabomber" Kaczynski's book "Industrial Society and Its Future" review section on Goodreads.

https://i.redd.it/j9n3oplojv5e1.jpeg

And this is the last thing he liked on the site:
https://i.redd.it/idp08qfdsv5e1.jpeg

[Media Moderator]

Man this guy really bucks the profile of your typical killer, or even extreme activist.

Wealthy Family
$40k a year prep school
Valedictorian
BS and MS from Ivy league school
Good looking
Lots of friends
Appears to have no problem with the ladies
World traveled

[highwhey]

well, take solace in the fact that you're considered the 'lesser evil' type of brown. otherwise you'd be getting bombed on a daily by the us government.

this is true.

[SouBeachTalents]

Reading the details of his arrest, he MUST have wanted to get caught right?

Sitting out in the open at McDonald's, apparently having all of his fake ID's, the murder weapon and his manifesto on hand, no way a guy who was quite meticulous with his plan would ever be so clueless.

He either didn't want to remain under the excruciating pressure of a relentless national manhunt, or he wanted to tell his side of the story.

[highwhey]

Reading the details of his arrest, he MUST have wanted to get caught right?

Sitting out in the open at McDonald's, apparently having all of his fake ID's, the murder weapon and his manifesto on hand, no way a guy who was quite meticulous with his plan would ever be so clueless.

He either didn't want to remain under the excruciating pressure of a relentless national manhunt, or he wanted to tell his side of the story.

he also didn't make it very far. should have booked it out of country in that first 24hrs.

[SouBeachTalents]

he also didn't make it very far. should have booked it out of country in that first 24hrs.
That's what I don't get about these guys who commit high profile public crimes, if I was about to pop a prominent CEO, or bomb a marathon, I would be on a flight out of the country within a couple of hours. After that, you're probably trapped due to your info being out, then it's only a matter of when, not if you get caught

[highwhey]

That's what I don't get about these guys who commit high profile public crimes, if I was about to pop a prominent CEO, or bomb a marathon, I would be on a flight out of the country within a couple of hours. After that, you're probably trapped due to your info being out, then it's only a matter of when, not if you get caught

i wonder what his next move is since he deliberately got caught. i'm not familiar with case law but even this is too egregious for any jury to acquit right? like rittenhouse had a self defense thing, the subway strangle job...but this was straight up murder.

[RRR3]

Reading the details of his arrest, he MUST have wanted to get caught right?

Sitting out in the open at McDonald's, apparently having all of his fake ID's, the murder weapon and his manifesto on hand, no way a guy who was quite meticulous with his plan would ever be so clueless.

He either didn't want to remain under the excruciating pressure of a relentless national manhunt, or he wanted to tell his side of the story.
He's a complete moron though he could have fled the country and remained a free man. Go to some obscure country like Uzbekistan or go live in the middle of nowhere in the Brazilian rainforest or something, don't ****ing stay here. They said he had money right? So he could have...

[diamenz]

He's a complete moron though he could have fled the country and remained a free man. Go to some obscure country like Uzbekistan or go live in the middle of nowhere in the Brazilian rainforest or something, don't ****ing stay here. They said he had money right? So he could have...

we don't know the full story yet. this guy is obviously calculated af. there's gonna be a lot more to this when it's all over.

[j3lademaster]

He's a complete moron though he could have fled the country and remained a free man. Go to some obscure country like Uzbekistan or go live in the middle of nowhere in the Brazilian rainforest or something, don't ****ing stay here. They said he had money right? So he could have...

I don't think he's stupid. I think he's sending a message. The words carved on the bullets is based on a book designed to spotlight the corruption in our healthcare system, written by an author who consistently has Marxist undertones. The monopoly money he left in his bag is a game designed to teach kids the dangers of letting corporations get too big, created by Charles Darrow who was an activist for women's suffrage, was a lawyer who actively fought against conspiracy laws deeming them too dangerous because the population is stupid and will believe them, opposed the prohibition, opposed tariffs and championed economic reform. He did oppose the Butler act, so maybe he was religious? But he was definitely against Darwinism being taught in schools(can't win'em all), but back on topic; the point made with the monopoly money is pretty clear and based. The shooter wanted to build up the notoriety before getting caught or turning himself in so he can have the biggest microphone in the world as news outlets fight each other tooth and nail over his nuts.

[Media Moderator]

He's a complete moron though he could have fled the country and remained a free man. Go to some obscure country like Uzbekistan or go live in the middle of nowhere in the Brazilian rainforest or something, don't ****ing stay here. They said he had money right? So he could have...

RRR3 jealous AF of this guy. He's a better looking, better educated, more intelligent, more charismatic version of what he likes to think of himself as. And most importantly, he has the balls to carry out his convictions in real life versus the lip service we hear from RRR3. The only thing RRR3 gets to feel empowered over is telling old ladies in the library to keep it down

[RRR3]

RRR3 jealous AF of this guy. He's a better looking, better educated, more intelligent, more charismatic version of what he likes to think of himself as. And most importantly, he has the balls to carry out his convictions in real life versus the lip service we hear from RRR3. The only thing RRR3 gets to feel empowered over is telling old ladies in the library to keep it down
You are an admitted pedophile.

[j3lademaster]

RRR3 jealous AF of this guy. He's a better looking, better educated, more intelligent, more charismatic version of what he likes to think of himself as. And most importantly, he has the balls to carry out his convictions in real life versus the lip service we hear from RRR3. The only thing RRR3 gets to feel empowered over is telling old ladies in the library to keep it downI totally thought of all people, a marxist anarchist would be all over this guy and sport the merch.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJQMEb1zC7zOcypszszaRUJIYKAbpgy nawHg&s

[RRR3]

I totally thought of all people, a marxist anarchist would be all over this guy and sport the merch.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJQMEb1zC7zOcypszszaRUJIYKAbpgy nawHg&s
Where did you get that I don’t support this kind of direct action? Because that retard said so? I just said he was dumb for not fleeing the country. I don’t want to see him end up in prison. Yes the ruling class should live in fear of this stuff until there is no ruling class.

“Marxist anarchist” huh? Are we just making up stuff now

[ILLsmak]

That's what I don't get about these guys who commit high profile public crimes, if I was about to pop a prominent CEO, or bomb a marathon, I would be on a flight out of the country within a couple of hours. After that, you're probably trapped due to your info being out, then it's only a matter of when, not if you get caught

Odds are heavily against success, but it might be the best shot, yeah. If someone recognized him at Macs he wasn’t going anywhere. Should have at least changed mask color. Still holding that backpack, too.

Also he might have felt they could trace him in flight and catch him on landing.

This whole thing is so weird because he does some things so well and others are so careless. Mayhaps it is the hallmark of a cunning and prepared (but ultimately inexperienced) criminal.

Dude was smart, apparently, but it’s strange to sell his life for something that is ultimately gonna be less than a ripple. He’s not gonna be the unabomber, he’s not gonna be a school shooter. This is going to do nothing for his cause. He sounds possibly crazy, like his life took a turn into obsession with this stuff.

He coulda done a lot more impactful stuff.

-Smak

[j3lademaster]

Where did you get that I don’t support this kind of direct action? Because that retard said so? I just said he was dumb for not fleeing the country. I don’t want to see him end up in prison. Yes the ruling class should live in fear of this stuff until there is no ruling class.

“Marxist anarchist” huh? Are we just making up stuff now
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dcommunism%2C%20also%20 known%20as,held%20in%20common%20by%20society.


Anarcho-communism, also known as anarchist communism, is the belief that hierarchies, money, and social classes should not exist, and that the means of production should be held in common by society.

Sorry if I'm not as well read as you, but are these not your beliefs?

[RRR3]

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-communism#:~:text=Anarcho%2Dcommunism%2C%20also%20 known%20as,held%20in%20common%20by%20society.



Sorry if I'm not as well read as you, but are these not your beliefs?
Marx did not invent communism. Anarchocommunism is not Marxist.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Nine pages and nothing from Chewing?

For God's sake, someone tell Poopsie what to think.

[j3lademaster]

Marx did not invent communism. Anarchocommunism is not Marxist.

I know Marx didn't invent communism, afaik the big, main distinction between Marxism and full blown anarchism is that Marx doesn't believe abolishing a hierarchical system as a necessity(while he wasn't opposed to it), but anarchists believe that to be a hard requirement.

And I don't see why you can't have Marxist analysis coinciding with anarcho beliefs. Even Chatgpt and Google treat 'anarcho marxism' and anarcho communism' as synomyms, so I guess your beef is with them.

https://i.postimg.cc/QC3ZnVgt/Screenshot-9-12-2024-18472-www-google-com.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

This is the last post I'll make on this matter as to not derail the thread, though... you can have this one if you're adamant. Don't feel like any further semantics wack-a-mole, because you're obviously ok with my definition, you just didn't quite like a single word i used.

edit: enlarged the screenshot

[RRR3]

It’s not the terminology that’s used i guess it doesn’t matter tho. But ancoms do not consider themselves Marxists at all in my experience.j

[SouBeachTalents]

Odds are heavily against success, but it might be the best shot, yeah. If someone recognized him at Macs he wasn’t going anywhere. Should have at least changed mask color. Still holding that backpack, too.

Also he might have felt they could trace him in flight and catch him on landing.

This whole thing is so weird because he does some things so well and others are so careless. Mayhaps it is the hallmark of a cunning and prepared (but ultimately inexperienced) criminal.

Dude was smart, apparently, but it’s strange to sell his life for something that is ultimately gonna be less than a ripple. He’s not gonna be the unabomber, he’s not gonna be a school shooter. This is going to do nothing for his cause. He sounds possibly crazy, like his life took a turn into obsession with this stuff.

He coulda done a lot more impactful stuff.

-Smak
My hypothesis is this guy was adrift in life, felt without a purpose, started doing some reading, went down the internet rabbit hole and slowly became indoctrinated. Even if you felt like the CEO deserved to die, this was a misguided attempt at a political/societal statement, and now at 26, he'll likely spend the next 50 years of his life in prison, with his actions, like you said, not changing anything in the way the health care industry functions in this country.

It reminds me of the guy who set himself on fire earlier this year yelling "Free Palestine", another example of someone who carelessly threw his life away, with his actions doing literally nothing to change the situation he was advocating for.

I feel like our society leaves too many people, especially young men, with no real feeling of purpose or place, so they seek out things like this to find a cause to get behind. But sadly, they don't truly think through the consequences of their actions.

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.

[j3lademaster]

It’s not the terminology that’s used i guess it doesn’t matter tho. But ancoms do not consider themselves Marxists at all in my experience.j

Yeah, that's true. Not in my experience either.

[diamenz]

Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.

*uck off.

[Media Moderator]

I totally thought of all people, a marxist anarchist would be all over this guy and sport the merch.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJQMEb1zC7zOcypszszaRUJIYKAbpgy nawHg&s

Oh he should be. This guy should be their GOD. Unlike 99.999% of the let-the-world-burn-and-see-if-I-give-AF crowd this anti-capitalist not only risked it all, he actually accomplished what he set out to do. Not only that, this guy actually had a life worth living, unlike almost all anarchists who's lives are worthless, and well worth throwing away. This guy is the Fidel Castro to RRR3's Che Retarda

[highwhey]

Oh he should be. This guy should be their GOD. Unlike 99.999% of the let-the-world-burn-and-see-if-I-give-AF crowd this anti-capitalist not only risked it all, he actually accomplished what he set out to do. Not only that, this guy actually had a life worth living, unlike almost all anarchists who's lives are worthless, and well worth throwing away. This guy is the Fidel Castro to RRR3's Che Retarda

you need some help man

[ArbitraryWater]

The story of him being the guy eating inside a McDonalds with the weapon on him seems pretty bs.

[Lakers Legend#32]

So three hours after this arrest, we know everything about the shooters life but barely any info about Trump's "shooter" three months later?

Staged.

[ILLsmak]

holy shit I just read about him having pissed his pants in his cell photo. I didn't even notice it. I dunno if that's 100% it, but it's compelling evidence. I think that's kind of a wack photo. Seems like they are shitting where they eat. If he pissed himself and they took a photo of it, that seems cruel and unusual.

Yall prol seen the pic but: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1harojk/first_photo_of_ceo_murder_suspect_inside_holding/

LOOK AT THE PANTS. We should ask Adam Sandler his PoV.

In the same way I don't understand why people are celebrating the CEO's death, if dude is losing his shit, I don't understand why people are celebrating it, either. I don't understand why people like to see someone suffer. It's very uncomfortable for me, personally. Unless it's Bron haha.

-Smak

[Media Moderator]

holy shit I just read about him having pissed his pants in his cell photo. I didn't even notice it. I dunno if that's 100% it, but it's compelling evidence. I think that's kind of a wack photo. Seems like they are shitting where they eat. If he pissed himself and they took a photo of it, that seems cruel and unusual.

Yall prol seen the pic but: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1harojk/first_photo_of_ceo_murder_suspect_inside_holding/

LOOK AT THE PANTS. We should ask Adam Sandler his PoV.

In the same way I don't understand why people are celebrating the CEO's death, if dude is losing his shit, I don't understand why people are celebrating it, either. I don't understand why people like to see someone suffer. It's very uncomfortable for me, personally. Unless it's Bron haha.

-Smak


Likely didn't pee his pants. If he peed his pants standing up. The moisture would likely be lower and mostly off to one side. Part of the moisture appears over the crotch too. If he peed sitting down the moisture would also be in the buttocks region. Looks more like they gave him a water bottle and he had it between his legs and squeezed it or something

In any case, the fact they released this photo is because they are scared of him building up a hero image

[BurningHammer]

In any case, the fact they released this photo is because they are scared of him building up a hero image

The victim still is a UHC CEO. It won't change anything much.

[TeflonDonTrump]

They are now pushing that he has a 3D printed gun. Now the government will say that you can print mass murder weapons from a 3D printer at home.

[j3lademaster]

holy shit I just read about him having pissed his pants in his cell photo. I didn't even notice it. I dunno if that's 100% it, but it's compelling evidence. I think that's kind of a wack photo. Seems like they are shitting where they eat. If he pissed himself and they took a photo of it, that seems cruel and unusual.

Yall prol seen the pic but: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1harojk/first_photo_of_ceo_murder_suspect_inside_holding/

LOOK AT THE PANTS. We should ask Adam Sandler his PoV.

In the same way I don't understand why people are celebrating the CEO's death, if dude is losing his shit, I don't understand why people are celebrating it, either. I don't understand why people like to see someone suffer. It's very uncomfortable for me, personally. Unless it's Bron haha.

-Smak

'celebrate' might be a strong word, but I wouldn't be too opposed to people celebrating his death... like I wouldn't be opposed to people celebrating Hitler's or Stalin's.

This man is fvcking evil. Props to Luigi for spotlighting this shit or else I never would have known they were using scummy AI to deny claims. Anyone who looks well-rested like they can get a good night's sleep doing what Thompson does is devoid of empathy as far as I'm concerned and definitely doesn't deserve any sympathy when they fvck around and find out. Tired of these emails at work too, telling us all we need to unite and be kind to each other yadda yadda amidst all this.

[j3lademaster]

They are now pushing that he has a 3D printed gun. Now the government will say that you can print mass murder weapons from a 3D printer at home.

3D printing guns has been a thing for a while


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4dBuPJ9p7A&ab_channel=VICENews

[TeflonDonTrump]

3D printing guns has been a thing for a while


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4dBuPJ9p7A&ab_channel=VICENews

That's just the frame. The slide and barrels can't be 3d printed.

Watch the video. They said "it jams, repeatedly"

[diamenz]

This man is fvcking evil.

that's been the consensus on both sides of the political spectrum. it's refreshing. the maga populist right are calling this shit out for what it is because a broken hc system don't discriminate. funny thing is, because of the unity, the non-populist, flag-waving tards on both sides don't want to come anywhere near this subject because they're too caught up in the left vs right game. this shit here really separates the men from the boys. i see you bitches.

and ben shapiro caught all kinds of flack from his audience over his hack take. check out the comments in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeRnWYn-GTQ

probably won't be long before he disables the comment section the same way he did candace owens dirty.

[j3lademaster]

that's been the consensus on both sides of the political spectrum. it's refreshing. the maga populist right are calling this shit out for what it is because a broken hc system don't discriminate. funny thing is, because of the unity, the non-populist tards on both sides don't want to come anywhere near this subject because they're too caught up in the left vs right game. this shit here really separates the men from the boys. i see you bitches.
The class war is the only real war worth fighting. The sooner people realize the moderate left/right surgeon with 35 degrees making 900k, the hvac small business owner married to his cousin with trump bumperstickers on his truck and the blue haired weed smoking slacker making 35k with his rainbow 'free palestine' shirt are all in the same class as far as the Brian Thompsons are concerned, the better. At the micro level, sure the surgeon is 'better' than the 40 year old edgy anarchist living with he/her/its parents but that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, you're either owner class or you aren't; and if you aren't you should be mad they've been being given an inch and taking a mile for decades now.

Inelastic goods and services need to be state run. We have the means, so there's no reason why we can't all have the necessities: food, housing and medicine.

Bored and want a ps5? Want that 85' samsung to hook your ps5 up to? Want a lambo? A yacht? Baddies chilling in your jacuzzi at your malibu mansion? Get your ass out there and hustle. Capitalism, baby.

[RRR3]

Yeah anyone denying Thompson got what he deserved is silly. And apparently this guy had pretty debilitating back pain and problems with insurance so you know why he did it. People shouldn’t have to worry about their health because of money it should be a public service.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah anyone denying Thompson got what he deserved is silly. And apparently this guy had pretty debilitating back pain and problems with insurance so you know why he did it. People shouldn’t have to worry about their health because of money it should be a public service.

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?

[RRR3]

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?
Osama Bin Laden was a father.

[j3lademaster]

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?
Bin Laden was a father too, so was Stalin, so is Al-Assad, so is Netanyahu. El Chapo, by all accounts, was a loving family man. So the fvck what?

[j3lademaster]

Osama Bin Laden was a father.He was muzzy though, so that’s fine.

[Patrick Chewing]

Those are all murderers. False equivalency, gents. Try again.

[RRR3]

Those are all murderers. False equivalency, gents. Try again.
Thompson was also a murderer.

[SouBeachTalents]

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?
This is why I couldn't take glee in this dude's murder, all I could think about was the fact someone was going to have to tell his kids their father was murdered. You can bring up a million what aboutisms in response, but his kids didn't do anything to deserve the lifelong trauma this event will cause them.

[RRR3]

This is why I couldn't take glee in this dude's murder, all I could think about was the fact someone was going to have to tell his kids their father was murdered. You can bring up a million what aboutisms in response, but his kids didn't do anything to deserve the lifelong trauma this event will cause them.
Someone had to tell Mussolini’s kids their father was murdered.

[j3lademaster]

So a musty little gremlin of an ai developer comes to Thompson with an ai that barely fits the guidelines of hhs regulations and will deny 90% of claims based on past UHC data, and instead of saying it’s unethical, Thompson takes credit for it and presents it as his own during the next board meeting where he passes out record profit projection reports along with personal handjobs for all the top shareholders and he isn’t complicit in the maiming and murdering of thousands? Just because Hitler didn’t personally gas Jews with his own hands doesn’t mean he didn’t do it…

[diamenz]

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?

you're right - rip to all of the poor victims of a broken hc system that had their claims denied in their time of need. my heart goes out to their grief-struck families. rip to all of the current and future victims as well.

come on chewing get your head outta your ass and focus on the issue and not the bullshit surrounding it.

[Patrick Chewing]

Thompson was also a murderer.

Ummm he’s not.

[Patrick Chewing]

you're right - rip to all of the poor victims of a broken hc system that had their claims denied in their time of need. my heart goes out to their grief-struck families. rip to all of the current and future victims as well.

come on chewing get your head outta your ass and focus on the issue and not the bullshit surrounding it.

The issue is you’re celebrating murder. That’s like demonic-level type shit right there.

[RRR3]

Ummm he’s not.
Denying coverage to dying people isn't murder? Ok fats.

[RRR3]

So a musty little gremlin of an ai developer comes to Thompson with an ai that barely fits the guidelines of hhs regulations and will deny 90% of claims based on past UHC data, and instead of saying it’s unethical, Thompson takes credit for it and presents it as his own during the next board meeting where he passes out record profit projection reports along with personal handjobs for all the top shareholders and he isn’t complicit in the maiming and murdering of thousands? Just because Hitler didn’t personally gas Jews with his own hands doesn’t mean he didn’t do it…
This isn't murder according to fats.

[Bill Gates]

The reason that Mussolini and Hitler and Bin Laden comparisons don't really work is because on the opposite end of the spectrum, UHC didn't deny every claim. They didn't even deny 50% of them. So they were still paying for high end multi-million dollar surgeries and saving lives.

For this guy to fit those molds he would have to be ONLY killing people. Oh and trying to take over the world too.

[j3lademaster]

The reason that Mussolini and Hitler and Bin Laden comparisons don't really work is because on the opposite end of the spectrum, UHC didn't deny every claim. They didn't even deny 50% of them. So they were still paying for high end multi-million dollar surgeries and saving lives.

For this guy to fit those molds he would have to be ONLY killing people. Oh and trying to take over the world too.
Yeah and Hitler created a sprawling economy with record standard of living for his blonde hair, blue eyed aryans. He didn’t “just kill people”.

[RRR3]

The reason that Mussolini and Hitler and Bin Laden comparisons don't really work is because on the opposite end of the spectrum, UHC didn't deny every claim. They didn't even deny 50% of them. So they were still paying for high end multi-million dollar surgeries and saving lives.

For this guy to fit those molds he would have to be ONLY killing people. Oh and trying to take over the world too.
"Guys he didn't murder EVERYONE, just the poor people so it's ok"

[Bill Gates]

The killer was seemingly an intelligent person, but clearly a bit insane also. Which isn't uncommon. High IQ but also a sociopath. Probably on the spectrum.

What is his end game here? Just to send a warning shot to the healthcare system? And purposely being caught as to make himself the Robinhood of it all? Is he hoping for copy-cat killers like himself? Is he hoping that society takes a deep look into healthcare and fixed it resulting in many more lives saved? Maybe that will happen.

[SouBeachTalents]

I'd say generally speaking, whenever you evoke the Hitler comparison, you've lost the argument. While denying sick people health coverage can certainly be considered evil, it's not attempting to exterminate an entire group of people, putting children in gas chambers and ovens, while attempting to take over the world. We need a little bit of context here.

[Patrick Chewing]

Denying coverage to dying people isn't murder? Ok fats.

I’ve had a claim denied before and I’m still alive. So have millions of other people and they’re still alive. Do you realize now how stupid you sound?

[RRR3]

I’ve had a claim denied before and I’m still alive. So have millions of other people and they’re still alive. Do you realize now how stupid you sound?
And millions of other people weren't so lucky. The world doesn't revolve around you, despite you being big enough to be mistaken for the sun.

[Bill Gates]

Our healthcare system is a steaming pile of shit, I think most everyone in the US would agree. But honestly it is the fault of capitalism. It isn't the fault of the companies themselves. Every company in this country has to figure out how to maximize profits in order to excel in this system. NONE OF THEM THINK WITH THEIR HEART. That is the nature of this beast, and it is the reason that Healthcare should be Government run. Part of our Government's job is to protect us. They don't have any qualms understanding that when it comes to our military. They sure as hell should take our health just as seriously as they do our Stealth Bombers.

[ShawkFactory]

I’ve had a claim denied before and I’m still alive. So have millions of other people and they’re still alive. Do you realize now how stupid you sound?

Stop it..

He's obviously not a "murderer" in the classic sense and the Hitler comparisons are always annoying because it ruins the actual point of any argument, allowing people to glob onto that instead of the topic at hand. But Thompson was clearly a stain on society using a healthcare entity to place more importance on lining his and his shareholders own pockets over the health and well-being of those covered under his plans.

You having a claim denied and surviving certainly isn't the point either, and is a completely out of touch thing to say.

Should he have been murdered? I'm not going to say that. But he clearly was not a good man who benefited society, and I don't have any sympathy for him.

[j3lademaster]

Bin Laden was a father too, so was Stalin, so is Al-Assad, so is Netanyahu. El Chapo, by all accounts, was a loving family man. So the fvck what?


Those are all murderers. False equivalency, gents. Try again.

Finally getting theough to Patty

[Lakers Legend#32]

I’ve had a claim denied before and I’m still alive. So have millions of other people and they’re still alive. Do you realize now how stupid you sound?

Your obesity was ruled a pre-existing condition.

[Media Moderator]

Our healthcare system is a steaming pile of shit, I think most everyone in the US would agree. But honestly it is the fault of capitalism.

Now c'mon. You can't be shit when you are usually #1 in the most common cancers survival rate, the best doctors, at #1 or the very top when it comes surgery wait times. If you are the best in the world, or at least at the very top, at a lot of things people put at the top of their lists when it comes to health care, you can say it isn't perfect but you can't say it's "shit". :oldlol:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Anyone who believes he got what he deserved whilst leaving his kids without a father needs to get their head examined. What does murdering someone accomplish?

Hiding for 10 pages and when he finally shows up, this is the best he can do?

[Bill Gates]

Now c'mon. You can't be shit when you are usually #1 in the most common cancers survival rate, the best doctors, at #1 or the very top when it comes surgery wait times. If you are the best in the world, or at least at the very top, at a lot of things people put at the top of their lists when it comes to health care, you can say it isn't perfect but you can't say it's "shit". :oldlol:
The US has the best hospitals that no one can afford.

https://healthsystemsfacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/CHElife_expectancy_2019_5nations_092424.png

Other places pay much less and live much longer.

[ShawkFactory]

The US has one of the best healthcare delivery systems in the world, but a poor healthcare financial system.

[diamenz]

The issue is you’re celebrating murder. That’s like demonic-level type shit right there.

you want to finally step into this thread eleven pages in on some high, mighty and righteous shit while propagating the #1 talking point being spewed by cnn msnbc, fox and every other mainstream network across the board to distract everyone from the matter at hand and the best take you can offer up on the topic is "oh my buddies and i never had a problem with it - go kick rocks libtard. you're cheering on murder."

it couldn't be any more clear that you want to focus on the drama and not the issue. so many people on the left & right have united on this and you just wanna jump into the fray and play the guy yelling form the peanut gallery. way to go.

fun fact for you: israel runs a single payer system and it's considered as being among one of the best in the world.

[RRR3]

It's crazy even a lot of MAGA can see the healthcare system sucks but Chewing is THAT FAR RIGHT that he defends it. Bro is basically Pinochet.

[highwhey]

Finally getting theough to Patty

:lebronamazed:

[ILLsmak]

'celebrate' might be a strong word, but I wouldn't be too opposed to people celebrating his death... like I wouldn't be opposed to people celebrating Hitler's or Stalin's.

This man is fvcking evil.

Not to start a fight, but I think it's just poor logic that leads to this type of thinking. I dunno exactly how it works, but I don't think you really believe he is equal in any way to Hitler. Keep in mind he is a dude within a system that is BAD. He is just one piece of it. He doesn't even have symbolic value. It's not like someone killed Fauci or something. Nobody even knew who this guy was before he got killed.

People are celebrating, and people are 'not opposed' to it. I am not opposed to it, either, because people will be people, but it's strange behavior and it's driven by thinking like you outlined. Dude did not kill more people than Bin Laden, like they say. That's a terrible logical leap.

-Smak

[diamenz]

here's something to get the stubborn conservative brain going:

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/inClLwGQm2PM/v1/1200x735.jpg

https://radarhealthcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/6-1.png

[ILLsmak]

but yea, short burst of more thoughts before I dip again...

It's just dangerous thinking. It's like people want class warfare. I am super populist, but I don't want that. Not now. 'Not like this.' It's a bad look. He should be smarter than that, but he has to pay for his actions.

People online are just talking about wild shit that they don't understand and trying to dehumanize someone and make him a symbol of a failed system. The system is the same today as it was yesterday. Maybe they got the anesthesia thing fixed due to these events, maybe not. Prol not tbh haha.

-Smak

[RRR3]

but yea, short burst of more thoughts before I dip again...

It's just dangerous thinking. It's like people want class warfare. I am super populist, but I don't want that. Not now. 'Not like this.' It's a bad look. He should be smarter than that, but he has to pay for his actions.

People online are just talking about wild shit that they don't understand and trying to dehumanize someone and make him a symbol of a failed system. The system is the same today as it was yesterday. Maybe they got the anesthesia thing fixed due to these events, maybe not. Prol not tbh haha.

-Smak
You're not a populist, you're a bootlicker and that post you just made proves it.

[Patrick Chewing]

And millions of other people weren't so lucky. The world doesn't revolve around you, despite you being big enough to be mistaken for the sun.

People that may or may not have died due to bad insurance company practices were not murdered. This CEO didn’t go out of his way to willfully murder people. Stop being dramatic and trying to be edgy. Just stop.

[Patrick Chewing]

Stop it..

He's obviously not a "murderer" in the classic sense and the Hitler comparisons are always annoying because it ruins the actual point of any argument, allowing people to glob onto that instead of the topic at hand. But Thompson was clearly a stain on society using a healthcare entity to place more importance on lining his and his shareholders own pockets over the health and well-being of those covered under his plans.

You having a claim denied and surviving certainly isn't the point either, and is a completely out of touch thing to say.

Should he have been murdered? I'm not going to say that. But he clearly was not a good man who benefited society, and I don't have any sympathy for him.

But this is my whole point with you guys. Do you know how evil you guys sound if you’re trying to justify his murder? What does killing him solve? I don’t care what was in that man’s heart or if he was a “bad” guy behind the scenes. Murdering someone is just wrong. And I can’t tell which people are more wretched, the murderers or the people that defend them. Truly a dark place to be when you find this behavior justifiable.

Again, all you’ve done is made his family and especially his children suffer.

[highwhey]

People that may or may not have died due to bad insurance company practices were not murdered. This CEO didn’t go out of his way to willfully murder people. Stop being dramatic and trying to be edgy. Just stop.

your neurons are so suffocated by cholesterol that you cannot think straight. just stop talking.

[Patrick Chewing]

you want to finally step into this thread eleven pages in on some high, mighty and righteous shit while propagating the #1 talking point being spewed by cnn msnbc, fox and every other mainstream network across the board to distract everyone from the matter at hand and the best take you can offer up on the topic is "oh my buddies and i never had a problem with it - go kick rocks libtard. you're cheering on murder."

it couldn't be any more clear that you want to focus on the drama and not the issue. so many people on the left & right have united on this and you just wanna jump into the fray and play the guy yelling form the peanut gallery. way to go.

fun fact for you: israel runs a single payer system and it's considered as being among one of the best in the world.

Jesus Christ you have anger issues, kid.

[ShawkFactory]

But this is my whole point with you guys. Do you know how evil you guys sound if you’re trying to justify his murder? What does killing him solve? I don’t care what was in that man’s heart or if he was a “bad” guy behind the scenes. Murdering someone is just wrong. And I can’t tell which people are more wretched, the murderers or the people that defend them. Truly a dark place to be when you find this behavior justifiable.

Again, all you’ve done is made his family and especially his children suffer.

A person saying they understand why a person was killed and justifying or celebrating the murder are different things.

The issue at hand here now is the man, and the system he worked in. Move on from the actual murder.

[RRR3]

But this is my whole point with you guys. Do you know how evil you guys sound if you’re trying to justify his murder? What does killing him solve? I don’t care what was in that man’s heart or if he was a “bad” guy behind the scenes. Murdering someone is just wrong. And I can’t tell which people are more wretched, the murderers or the people that defend them. Truly a dark place to be when you find this behavior justifiable.

Again, all you’ve done is made his family and especially his children suffer.
You have justified the murder of literal children a million times in regards to Israel's genocide of Palestine.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's crazy even a lot of MAGA can see the healthcare system sucks but Chewing is THAT FAR RIGHT that he defends it. Bro is basically Pinochet.

I’m not defending anyone or anything. I’m simply stating that those of you cheering on or defending the murder of someone are some sick individuals.

[highwhey]

But this is my whole point with you guys. Do you know how evil you guys sound if you’re trying to justify his murder? What does killing him solve? I don’t care what was in that man’s heart or if he was a “bad” guy behind the scenes. Murdering someone is just wrong. And I can’t tell which people are more wretched, the murderers or the people that defend them. Truly a dark place to be when you find this behavior justifiable.

Again, all you’ve done is made his family and especially his children suffer.

this needs to have been posted in the rittenhouse, and the subway strangler threads...instead you save it for a mass murder. no wonder you're 400 pounds.

[Patrick Chewing]

A person saying they understand why a person was killed and justifying or celebrating the murder are different things.

The issue at hand here now is the man, and the system he worked in. Move on from the actual murder.

How do you “understand” murder? Let’s hear it.

[Patrick Chewing]

You have justified the murder of literal children a million times in regards to Israel's genocide of Palestine.

I’ve justified the murder of terrorist rats who kill innocent Jews and Israelis. You’re full of false equivalencies today aren’t ya?

[ShawkFactory]

How do you “understand” murder? Let’s hear it.

This is extremely rich coming from you because I know if circumstances, people, or sides were changed so too would your tune :lol

But if someone raped your child (I know you don't have children and you have a difficult time understanding things you don't personally experience but bear with me here) and you exact revenge and kill that child's rapist, I will understand why you did it...without necessarily condoning it.

Like that.

It's similar to how I understand why someone who has utilized shady and ethically non-existent practices to deny healthcare of his insured's would have a target on his back.

[RRR3]

I’ve justified the murder of terrorist rats who kill innocent Jews and Israelis. You’re full of false equivalencies today aren’t ya?
Nope, you have gleefully cheered on Israel's actions despite them murdering countless children. Disgusting.

[RRR3]

This is extremely rich coming from you because I know if circumstances, people, or sides were changed so too would your tune :lol

But if someone raped your child (I know you don't have children and you have a difficult time understanding things you don't personally experience but bear with me here) and you exact revenge and kill that child's rapist, I will understand why you did it...without necessarily condoning it.

Like that.

It's similar to how I understand why someone who has utilized shady and ethically non-existent practices to deny healthcare of his insured's would have a target on his back.
What's crazy is a lot of right-wingers are in agreement with the left on this, Chewy is just such a true believer in conservatism he can't budge an inch, even when he sees other conservatives admit the left has a point.

[diamenz]

Jesus Christ you have anger issues, kid.

yeah i didn't think you'd have shit to say.

[Patrick Chewing]

This is extremely rich coming from you because I know if circumstances, people, or sides were changed so too would your tune :lol

But if someone raped your child (I know you don't have children and you have a difficult time understanding things you don't personally experience but bear with me here) and you exact revenge and kill that child's rapist, I will understand why you did it...without necessarily condoning it.

Like that.

It's similar to how I understand why someone who has utilized shady and ethically non-existent practices to deny healthcare of his insured's would have a target on his back.

Once again, you’re just prostituting yourself to the low-IQ chimps of the board like highweight, diamenz, and RRR3 with that mentality. What did this CEO single-handedly do to have you equate it to rape? Or to any violent assault for that matter?

[RRR3]

Once again, you’re just prostituting yourself to the low-IQ chimps of the board like highweight, diamenz, and RRR3 with that mentality. What did this CEO single-handedly do to have you equate it to rape? Or to any violent assault for that matter?
A few months ago you thought Diamenz was brilliant. Now he's "low IQ". Literal proof your measure of intelligence is based on how much a person agrees with you.

[Patrick Chewing]

yeah i didn't think you'd have shit to say.

I’ve been saying what I have to say to the more civilized posters. Pay attention.

[Patrick Chewing]

A few months ago you thought Diamenz was brilliant. Now he's "low IQ". Literal proof your measure of intelligence is based on how much a person agrees with you.

You spend too much time on this board.

[ShawkFactory]

Once again, you’re just prostituting yourself to the low-IQ chimps of the board like highweight, diamenz, and RRR3 with that mentality. What did this CEO single-handedly do to have you equate it to rape? Or to any violent assault for that matter?

You just don't seem to be able to track your own questions. You asked:


How do you “understand” murder? Let’s hear it.

And I answered. There's no false equivalency. Every situation is different but a powerful person intentionally employing tactics that will have millions of people's healthcare claims denied is bad. Pretty fvcking bad...

[Lakers Legend#32]

But this is my whole point with you guys. Do you know how evil you guys sound if you’re trying to justify his murder? What does killing him solve? I don’t care what was in that man’s heart or if he was a “bad” guy behind the scenes. Murdering someone is just wrong. And I can’t tell which people are more wretched, the murderers or the people that defend them. Truly a dark place to be when you find this behavior justifiable.

Again, all you’ve done is made his family and especially his children suffer.

Yet you have called for the death of liberals, Muslims, and immigrants.

[Patrick Chewing]

I’m not even sure why you guys are even disagreeing with me. It seems as if all of you are okay with just random murder. The true definition of a soulless country.

[ILLsmak]

You're not a populist, you're a bootlicker and that post you just made proves it.

I was a populist before I knew what it meant.

I try not to go in on people, but you guys are wiling out on another level. This is even beyond the stupid shit people said about wishing Trump got shot because Trump is a major political figure and that would at least inspire change. You can see what their underlying motivation would be.

This dude was not making the decisions. That's a get played moment, if you believe that. You might need to be a populist to understand, but that's not how things work haha. They will put someone else in who makes the same decisions, otherwise, he won't get to hold that spot.

But carry on. At least what people are saying here is nothing compared to what is being posted on Reddit, but still. I assume you guys are trolling and not debating because it's really, really hollow. You can say, "I understand why dude got killed. I think health insurance is bad, and **** health insurance CEOs, no love lost," but when you start going like dude was a psychopathic murderer and he killed more people than Bin Laden, it's like wow hold up.

Have fun tho haha

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

I’m not even sure why you guys are even disagreeing with me. It seems as if all of you are okay with just random murder. The true definition of a soulless country.

I can see why it inspires less empathy in people, but it's more than that. The American way is to personify something and then destroy it, which is what is being done here, altho kind of retroactively. They branded dude as the face of corporate greed and health insurance bullshit, and he's just one out of many dudes who are getting paid to do what they do, but are super expendable and, except for a select few visionaries, aren't directing how things go as much as you think. Dude is an accountant. Was he doing shit that ****ed people over? Highly likely. Did he care? Highly unlikely. But he's not a supervillain. Everyone got ruined out of this, and that's what is being lost. That's what the unhinged part is, total lack of perspective, and kind of shocking to see it happen in real time, but I always try to believe it's just 'the internet.'

-Smak

[RRR3]

I’m not even sure why you guys are even disagreeing with me. It seems as if all of you are okay with just random murder. The true definition of a soulless country.
It wasn't random, he was killed because he was denying people access to lifesaving care and causing untold suffering.

[diamenz]

I’ve been saying what I have to say to the more civilized posters. Pay attention.

then if someone here condones murder, address them directly instead of painting everybody here that you don't agree with with a broad brush. you're as bad as the msm.

again, all you're interested in is the political rat race and stirring the pot. the shit's tiring and it's a waste of space. you want to talk about health care, then by all means - do so. truth is, you wouldn't give an inch on this subject because it's considered to be left wing.

[Patrick Chewing]

You just don't seem to be able to track your own questions. You asked:



And I answered. There's no false equivalency. Every situation is different but a powerful person intentionally employing tactics that will have millions of people's healthcare claims denied is bad. Pretty fvcking bad...

Of course it’s a false equivalency. Rape is a violent personal act. You equating disagreeable insurance tactics to rape is lunacy.

And you can deny it all you want, but all you’re doing at the end of the day is making the case why you think someone would murder someone which is technically a way of justifying it. Murder is either 100% wrong or it’s 100% right. It can’t be in between. Some murders aren’t good murders. I mean, this whole conversation is idiotic, and stupid that we even have to have it.

[j3lademaster]

I'd say generally speaking, whenever you evoke the Hitler comparison, you've lost the argument. While denying sick people health coverage can certainly be considered evil, it's not attempting to exterminate an entire group of people, putting children in gas chambers and ovens, while attempting to take over the world. We need a little bit of context here.

You're giving into bs made up by the people who like sporting swastikas. It's basically the same as when you criticize Trump and they accuse you of TDS and then the whole front page is littered with anti-Biden threads. They want Hitler talk to get played out to the point where his name is no longer taboo, which I don't feel like being a part of allowing. Hitler deserves to have his name dragged through the mud- and we can have a debate of who's worse him, Potts, Stalin or whoever- but Hitler is the most famous example by far and everyone knows his story so his name is synonymous with 'name of bad person to get my point across'. Gates said 'well UHC didn't even deny every claim so they were still paying some out' like that's some sort of defense and I rebutted with 'well, even Hitler did good things from the perspective of certain groups during his regime' which in this context fits. In nowhere am I comparing the level of their atrocities here, like I said earlier he's just the:


'name of bad person to get my point across'.

And the whole 'Thompson was a father.' argument I listed other bad people who were also fathers. Gun to my head, I don't think Bassar Al-Assad is on the level of Stalin either if we wanted to talk about sheer number of atrocities. Does that matter? The measuring stick I'm implying is obviously just 'bad immoral person that the world is better off without'. And if you want to replace Hitler, Netanyahu or whoever's name with a person that you think better suits the examples, be my guest, but don't get bogged down in the names while ignoring the crux of my arguments because that's what gives people like Smak leeway to discredit entire posts with 'OMG I CaN'T bElivE YOU cOMpaRED HIM wiTh HitLERRRRR!!!' while glossing over everything else.

[Patrick Chewing]

I can see why it inspires less empathy in people, but it's more than that. The American way is to personify something and then destroy it, which is what is being done here, altho kind of retroactively. They branded dude as the face of corporate greed and health insurance bullshit, and he's just one out of many dudes who are getting paid to do what they do, but are super expendable and, except for a select few visionaries, aren't directing how things go as much as you think. Dude is an accountant. Was he doing shit that ****ed people over? Highly likely. Did he care? Highly unlikely. But he's not a supervillain. Everyone got ruined out of this, and that's what is being lost. That's what the unhinged part is, total lack of perspective, and kind of shocking to see it happen in real time, but I always try to believe it's just 'the internet.'

-Smak

Here is a rational human being.

I’ve only seen this insane rhetoric on the internet so I would hope for the sake of the world that it’s the fringe minority that thinks it’s justifiable to kill someone.

I don’t know the details of who this CEO was and if he truly was a bad guy, but that’s irrelevant. He didn’t deserve to die and it accomplishes nothing by killing him. Children lose a father, and now this Luigi loser will sit in a jail cell for the rest of his life. His life is over as well. So what does it accomplish? Not a ****ing thing. Some of these young morons in this country have no idea how miserable losing your freedom is by being incarcerated. It’s hell on Earth.

[ShawkFactory]

Of course it’s a false equivalency. Rape is a violent personal act. You equating disagreeable insurance tactics to rape is lunacy.

And you can deny it all you want, but all you’re doing at the end of the day is making the case why you think someone would murder someone which is technically a way of justifying it. Murder is either 100% wrong or it’s 100% right. It can’t be in between. Some murders aren’t good murders. I mean, this whole conversation is idiotic, and stupid that we even have to have it.

Reread the thread.

The rape example was in response to:


How do you “understand” murder? Let’s hear it.

And I answered. I then expounded on my other point, separately. The was no actual equivalency given.


disagreeable insurance tactics

Oh fvck off :lol

[j3lademaster]

So when Thompson ran the numbers to issue a report forecasting record profits due to an AI algorithm DESIGNED TO DENY MORE CLAIMS THAN EVER, you don't think he knew that new system would lead to an increase in deaths? And he implemented it anyway, how does that not make him complicit to murder? When you directly and KNOWINGLY make decisions that lead to increased death and suffering, what do you call that then?

[ShawkFactory]

So when Thompson ran the numbers to issue a report forecasting record profits due to an AI algorithm DESIGNED TO DENY MORE CLAIMS THAN EVER, you don't think he knew that new system would lead to an increase in deaths? And he implemented it anyway, how does that not make him complicit to murder? When you directly and KNOWINGLY make decisions that lead to increased death and suffering, what do you call that then?

Disagreeable...tangibly harmful. What's the difference, eh? It's not like he pulled the trigger on anyone specifically.

[Patrick Chewing]

So when Thompson ran the numbers to issue a report forecasting record profits due to an AI algorithm DESIGNED TO DENY MORE CLAIMS THAN EVER, you don't think he knew that new system would lead to an increase in deaths? And he implemented it anyway, how does that not make him complicit to murder? When you directly and KNOWINGLY make decisions that lead to increased death and suffering, what do you call that then?

Then arrest him if he broke the law. But vigilante justice that leads to another criminal act like murder is just dumb.

[MrFonzworth]

Finally getting theough to Patty

Got his ass:applause:

[RRR3]

Then arrest him if he broke the law. But vigilante justice that leads to another criminal act like murder is just dumb.
You know a lot of evil behavior is legal right? He didn’t break the law as far as I know. That doesn’t mean he didn’t lead to the deaths of countless people because again that shit is legal. That’s the problem.

[bladefd]

Here is a rational human being.

I’ve only seen this insane rhetoric on the internet so I would hope for the sake of the world that it’s the fringe minority that thinks it’s justifiable to kill someone.

I don’t know the details of who this CEO was and if he truly was a bad guy, but that’s irrelevant. He didn’t deserve to die and it accomplishes nothing by killing him. Children lose a father, and now this Luigi loser will sit in a jail cell for the rest of his life. His life is over as well. So what does it accomplish? Not a ****ing thing. Some of these young morons in this country have no idea how miserable losing your freedom is by being incarcerated. It’s hell on Earth.

Then shut the f*ck up.

You made me login after more than a month just because of your dumb ass. Cya.

[Patrick Chewing]

You know a lot of evil behavior is legal right? He didn’t break the law as far as I know. That doesn’t mean he didn’t lead to the deaths of countless people because again that shit is legal. That’s the problem.

It doesn't matter dude if it is or it isn't. You're trying to find reasons for murder. I'm telling you guys right now, you're on a dark path if you're cheering and celebrating this guy's death, whether he be a piece of shit or not.

Get right with God.

[Patrick Chewing]

Then shut the f*ck up.

You made me login after more than a month just because of your dumb ass. Cya.

It's good to see you haven't killed yourself yet.

[jstern]

Then shut the f*ck up.

You made me login after more than a month just because of your dumb ass. Cya.

Why were you gone for more than a month?

I came here specifically to say that I felt really bad for the killer because he suffers from the same condition Blade has, sciatica, which, as I learned from Blade, can be excruciatingly painful.

https://static.toiimg.com/thumb/msid-116182254,imgsize-729949,width-400,resizemode-4/116182254.jpg

CEO shooting suspect Luigi Mangione appeared to discuss spine issues on Reddit - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/ceo-shooting-suspect-luigi-mangione-appeared-discuss-spine/story?id=116660500)

[Proctor]

It doesn't matter dude if it is or it isn't. You're trying to find reasons for murder. I'm telling you guys right now, you're on a dark path if you're cheering and celebrating this guy's death, whether he be a piece of shit or not.

Get right with God.


It's good to see you haven't killed yourself yet.

Back to back posts.

"You're trying to find reasons for murder. Get right with God!"

"It's good to see you haven't killed yourself yet."

https://media.tenor.com/yFpWHgjVp_IAAAAM/kobe-bryant-what.gif

[RRR3]

It doesn't matter dude if it is or it isn't. You're trying to find reasons for murder. I'm telling you guys right now, you're on a dark path if you're cheering and celebrating this guy's death, whether he be a piece of shit or not.

Get right with God.
You call for the deaths of people you don't like all the time, stop being a hypocrite.

[RRR3]

Back to back posts.

"You're trying to find reasons for murder. Get right with God!"

"It's good to see you haven't killed yourself yet."

https://media.tenor.com/yFpWHgjVp_IAAAAM/kobe-bryant-what.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[RRR3]

Why were you gone for more than a month?

I came here specifically to say that I felt really bad for the killer because he suffers from the same condition Blade has, sciatica, which, as I learned from Blade, can be excruciatingly painful.

https://static.toiimg.com/thumb/msid-116182254,imgsize-729949,width-400,resizemode-4/116182254.jpg

CEO shooting suspect Luigi Mangione appeared to discuss spine issues on Reddit - ABC News (https://abcnews.go.com/US/ceo-shooting-suspect-luigi-mangione-appeared-discuss-spine/story?id=116660500)
Obviously Blade is Mangione!

[SouBeachTalents]

Obviously Blade is Mangione!
Nice of them to let him quickly post on ISH.

[Patrick Chewing]

Back to back posts.

"You're trying to find reasons for murder. Get right with God!"

"It's good to see you haven't killed yourself yet."

https://media.tenor.com/yFpWHgjVp_IAAAAM/kobe-bryant-what.gif

Are you confused?

[Patrick Chewing]

You call for the deaths of people you don't like all the time, stop being a hypocrite.

You support the deaths of Jews in Israel.

[RRR3]

You support the deaths of Jews in Israel.
Now you're just making stuff up. I mean I support the death of Netanyahu who happens to be Jewish if that's what you're retardedly basing this on, but you know damn well I don't want him dead cuz he's Jewish. I want him dead cuz hes a genocidal fascist causing mass suffering. I absolutely don't want Israeli citizens to die. Meanwhile you gleefully suppor the death of Muslim civilians.

[Patrick Chewing]

Now you're just making stuff up. I mean I support the death of Netanyahu who happens to be Jewish if that's what you're retardedly basing this on, but you know damn well I don't want him dead cuz he's Jewish. I want him dead cuz hes a genocidal fascist causing mass suffering. I absolutely don't want Israeli citizens to die. Meanwhile you gleefully suppor the death of Muslim civilians.

You have justified Hamas's actions since Day 1. You're even on record saying that Israel created Hamas and blaming Israel and Jews for the unrest in the Middle East. You never blame the Muslim with their barbaric belief system that wants us all dead. Netanyahu is Israel's biggest protector.

[RRR3]

You have justified Hamas's actions since Day 1. You're even on record saying that Israel created Hamas and blaming Israel and Jews for the unrest in the Middle East. You never blame the Muslim with their barbaric belief system that wants us all dead. Netanyahu is Israel's biggest protector.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

[warriorfan]

Then shut the f*ck up.

You made me login after more than a month just because of your dumb ass. Cya.

handicapped meltdown :roll:

[warriorfan]

You're not a populist, you're a bootlicker and that post you just made proves it.

You literally work for the government. :lol

[RRR3]

The fact that you log in just to fight with people despite being banned for months really says a lot about your life. You didn't even attempt to discuss the topic, just personal attacks. That's how pathetic you are.

[highwhey]

The fact that you log in just to fight with people despite being banned for months really says a lot about your life. You didn't even attempt to discuss the topic, just personal attacks. That's how pathetic you are.
he's literally been melting down since he was unbanned. the crazy thing is this dude was checking constantly, multiple times a day to check if he was unbanned :oldlol:

the second he was unbanned, he posted several posts about the mod that banned him. guy is unhinged.

[Axe]

Then shut the f*ck up.

You made me login after more than a month just because of your dumb ass. Cya.
Welcome back. :cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

The fact that you log in just to fight with people.

Pot, meet Kettle.

[RRR3]

Pot, meet Kettle.
Except I am actually commenting on and discussing the issue at hand. You're just lashing out because you don't like that everyone is disagreeing with you in this thread.

[ILLsmak]

So when Thompson ran the numbers to issue a report forecasting record profits due to an AI algorithm DESIGNED TO DENY MORE CLAIMS THAN EVER, you don't think he knew that new system would lead to an increase in deaths? And he implemented it anyway, how does that not make him complicit to murder? When you directly and KNOWINGLY make decisions that lead to increased death and suffering, what do you call that then?

Cuz nobody got murdered. Haha.

I’d call it capitalist savagery and there is lots of it. All insurance is ruining people’s lives, it just happens health is more easily tied to their livelihood. You and RRR3 are both smart (in my s tier psychological opinion) and well educated on these issues, but you are consuming too much propaganda. If there is no murder, he cannot be complicit to it. That’s a big line.

Dictators have immense power and they might starve people out or create circumstances that make it hard for them to survive, but they are also doing overt stuff, too, and to everyone. I dunno this guy or his shooter. I see the details. It wasn’t justified, but it is very easy to see how it happened and to in some ways empathize with the shooter. That is ok to say and I will fight for people’s ability to speak their mind, but when you guys are quoting what amounts to memes and not aiming to reach an understanding, it’s super frustrating.

There is no need to apply a more negative light to the ceo, and there is no need to apply a positive one to the shooter. People can look at what happened and most will feel similarly to you, but when you equate him with dictators or mob bosses, terrorists, whatever, it doesn’t help any cause except maybe to inspire more people to shoot ceos. We’ll see how it works out.

I apologize to everyone, even RRR3 who attacked me (shock and awe,) but when people say shit that doesn’t logically follow and are so doubled down on it and not interested in dissecting the idea, it legit roils me.

-Smak

[Patrick Chewing]

Except I am actually commenting on and discussing the issue at hand. You're just lashing out because you don't like that everyone is disagreeing with you in this thread.


I'm lashing out? I posted my opinion and like 12 of you rabid monkeys came after me wondering how the hell can I not be happy that someone got murdered.

[RRR3]

https://i.imgflip.com/9dd8cq.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

As I stated before, you spend too much time on this board.

[Hey Yo]

As I stated before, you spend too much time on this board.

He's been posting in this thread for 12hrs straight.

[Lakers Legend#32]

As I stated before, you spend too much time on this board.

Says Mr. 40,318 posts.

[Charlie Sheen]

Says Mr. 40,318 posts.

Pat can be found in the NBA forum. He talks sports in some of those 40k posts.

You on the other hand have never offered anything of value.

[TheMan]

I've been meaning to make a thread for a few weeks now. "Today's Republicans are yesterday's Dems. Today's Dems are yesterday's Republicans"

It will be full of polls, surveys about the reversing polarity between the left and right in regards to trust in government, corporations, banks, big pharma, constitutional freedoms, tolerance of others etc

You truly are clueless and naive if you really believe today's GOP are anything other than American corporate whores :roll:

The Democrats clearly are, thus I have no love for them but make no mistake, the GOP are actually worse.

[warriorfan]

The fact that you log in just to fight with people despite being banned for months really says a lot about your life. You didn't even attempt to discuss the topic, just personal attacks. That's how pathetic you are.

you are so low iq it’s useless to try to discuss any topic with you

you are basically a child

[TheMan]

You support the deaths of Jews in Israel.

Bro, you support the Zionists actions in Palestine that have led to thousands of deaths of Palestinian children. Almost every nation on Earth has condemned Israel's heavy handed actions, except of course Israel's lapdogs, the US. If you really believe as a Catholic that murder is wrong, what Israel is doing is wrong, no and ifs or buts about it.

Be consistent...which you obviously aren't when you call for the deaths of people you don't like.

[Patrick Chewing]

Bro, you support the Zionists actions in Palestine that have led to thousands of deaths of Palestinian children. Almost every nation on Earth has condemned Israel's heavy handed actions, except of course Israel's lapdogs, the US. If you really believe as a Catholic that murder is wrong, what Israel is doing is wrong, no and ifs or buts about it.

Be consistent...which you obviously aren't when you call for the deaths of people you don't like.

Yawn. I support the deaths of all terrorist rats. If you think I’m here cheering for the deaths of Palestinian children, then you couldn’t be more wrong. But it’s typical for you guys to lie about me or make false accusations about me since you don’t like my stance.

The loss of life, while tragic, is simply a case of being casualties of war in a war started by Hamas.

[RRR3]

Yawn. I support the deaths of all terrorist rats. If you think I’m here cheering for the deaths of Palestinian children, then you couldn’t be more wrong. But it’s typical for you guys to lie about me or make false accusations about me since you don’t like my stance.

The loss of life, while tragic, is simply a case of being casualties of war in a war started by Hamas.
So surely you support the violence ending by now? Hamas has been subdued by any reasonable measure.

[diamenz]

i may have flew off the handle a bit on you last night chewing and for that i apologize. this subject matter believe it or not is personal to me so i get a bit animated when i talk about it.

[Norcaliblunt]

What the hell is health insurance really gonna give you?

Yeah maybe in a catastrophic accident like a car crash you’ll get surgery.

But none of y’all are curing cancer or heart disease with health insurance.

It’s straight extortion until you die.

Take responsibility for yourselves *******.

That said any insurance ceo who is making money exploiting people’s fears need to be shot.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Pat can be found in the NBA forum. He talks sports in some of those 40k posts.

You on the other hand have never offered anything of value.

40k posts on any message board regardless of the subject is an example of no life.

[highwhey]

Pat can be found in the NBA forum. He talks sports in some of those 40k posts.

You on the other hand have never offered anything of value.

some of his 40k posts are threatening other posters with their lives, so i'd say dude is hot garbage.

[Lakers Legend#32]

some of his 40k posts are threatening other posters with their lives, so i'd say dude is hot garbage.

And some of the people's lives he is threatening have kids.

[Axe]

Pat can be found in the NBA forum. He talks sports in some of those 40k posts.

You on the other hand have never offered anything of value.
In some of those 40k posts when he's dealing with certain posters he dislikes, he brings up or mentions food as if he couldn't stop thinking about them.