Jury not able to reach unanimous decision in Daniel Penny case

[Hey Yo]

He's the marine who was charged with manslaughter who's on trial for allegedly choking and killing that dude on the NY subway.

[BigKobeFan]

He's the marine who was charged with manslaughter who's on trial for allegedly choking and killing that dude on the NY subway.

He should be acquitted

[Hey Yo]

Judge dismisses manslaughter charge due jury deadlocked. Tells jury to deliberate on lesser charge on Monday

[Full Court]

There's probably one idiot like RRR3 on the jury who wants Penny to go to prison.

[Patrick Chewing]

There's probably one idiot like RRR3 on the jury who wants Penny to go to prison.

I read on Twitter that one of the jurors has been double-masked the entire time during the case. You know damn well that juror wants to send him to prison.

[Full Court]

I read on Twitter that one of the jurors has been double-masked the entire time during the case. You know damn well that juror wants to send him to prison.

Yep, checks out.

[MrFonzworth]

First Rittenhouse, now Penny.

What happened to this country where now people can get away with murder?:mad::facepalm

[Meticode]

First Rittenhouse, now Penny.

What happened to this country where now people can get away with murder?:mad::facepalm

Protecting yourself and other people from violence isn't murder, but you keep living in that delusional world of yours. So tired of the race card. So tired of the victimization card. If people don't want to die, don't do violent stupid shit.

[west_tip]

This is really on the government tbh.

Neely was known to police (arrested dozens of times) and known to NYC social services. He was not mentally fit and did not have the social skills to be able to navigate life out an institution. He needed to be in a facility where he could receive mental health counseling, meds etc. not unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

It will be an absolute travesty if Penny is found guilty when Feely should not have been in the streets in the first place.

[Hey Yo]

^ This guy gets it :applause:

The city did Neely no favors and would be still alive albeit incarcerated etc ... instead of being high as hell and a threat to himself and others in public

[ShawkFactory]

Protecting yourself and other people from violence isn't murder, but you keep living in that delusional world of yours. So tired of the race card. So tired of the victimization card. If people don't want to die, don't do violent stupid shit.

In theory sure. But strangling someone to death? That take several minutes and goes beyond self-defense. Not to say he intentionally killed anyone, but a negligence homicide charge seems just in this scenario.

[Hey Yo]

Jury says not guilty.... threats issued immediately after from loud protesters outside of the court.

Could we see riots?

[west_tip]

^ This guy gets it :applause:

The city did Neely no favors and would be still alive albeit incarcerated etc ... instead of being high as hell and a threat to himself and others in public

I am glad to report that it looks like he was acquitted of the lesser charge too.

Hopefully NYC has some introspection and realizes that continuously arresting-releasing-rearresting mentally ill homeless people is not a model for addressing their needs or ensuring that the city is a safe place to live or visit.

[Hey Yo]

From 3 days ago:

The notorious leader of New York’s BLM chapter caused outrage outside the Daniel Penny trial by slurring the former Marine, saying “the KKK got another victory,” after the judge in the case dropped the top charge of manslaughter.

Hawk Newsome, after the jury deadlocked Friday, told reporters anyone who thinks Penny is innocent has “racism in their heart”, and suggested at least one juror in Penny’s case could be a “white supremacist hold out”, according to a report from the Daily Mail.

“Logically, if you pick a white supremacist jury specialist, and you pack a jury with white people, obviously you think race has a specific role in this case, and obviously you are looking for that one white supremacist hold out,” Newsome said according to the report


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[GOBB]

This is really on the government tbh.

Neely was known to police (arrested dozens of times) and known to NYC social services. He was not mentally fit and did not have the social skills to be able to navigate life out an institution. He needed to be in a facility where he could receive mental health counseling, meds etc. not unleashed on an unsuspecting public.

It will be an absolute travesty if Penny is found guilty when Feely should not have been in the streets in the first place.

No the travesty is allowing Penny to walk and now people will feel justified in acting like vigilantes in public. Sets a bad precedent. But I’m sure the next “Penny” like incident that happens will result in jail time because of their “look”. Not saying buddy should’ve got life but you can’t snuff out someone life like he did. He knew damn well what the chokehold applied would do. To hold anyone for that long by the neck is crazy. And the fact the defense argued he didn’t consistently choke him enough to cause death is laughable. Granted their job but laughable. The jury is a joke. The folks here are a joke. But hey feel free to play hero in these streets over a person being a nuisance. Snuff out a life and walk…

[Hey Yo]

Dr. Satish Chundru took the stand as the second expert witness for the defense team, which is trying to refute testimony from a New York City medical examiner who ruled that Neely died from compression to his neck as a result of a chokehold.

Chundru, a forensic pathologist and consultant who said he has worked as a medical examiner for counties in Florida and Texas, said he has conducted more than 9,000 autopsies.

Chundru’s testimony contradicted that of Dr. Cynthia Harris, the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on Neely and ruled that he died of the chokehold. Chundru said he did not believe that Neely died of a chokehold or that Penny had applied consistent and sufficient pressure to render him unconscious.

Chundru said he believed Neely died from “the combined effects of sickle cell crisis, the schizophrenia, the struggle and restraint and the synthetic marijuana” that was in his system. He said he had reviewed Neely’s autopsy report, two toxicology reports, genetic studies, photographs from the autopsy, “a couple of videos of the incident,” psychiatric records, witness statements and transcripts of police body camera video, among other things.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/defense-pathologist-says-jordan-neely-didnt-die-chokehold-nyc-subway-rcna180958

[GOBB]

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Chundru’s testimony contradicted that of Dr. Cynthia Harris, the medical examiner who performed the autopsy on Neely and ruled that he died of the chokehold. Chundru said he did not believe that Neely died of a chokehold or that Penny had applied consistent and sufficient pressure to render him unconscious.

Chundru said he believed Neely died from “the combined effects of sickle cell crisis, the schizophrenia, the struggle and restraint and the synthetic marijuana” that was in his system. He said he had reviewed Neely’s autopsy report, two toxicology reports, genetic studies, photographs from the autopsy, “a couple of videos of the incident,” psychiatric records, witness statements and transcripts of police body camera video, among other things.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/defense-pathologist-says-jordan-neely-didnt-die-chokehold-nyc-subway-rcna180958

hahaha good one. What they outsourced a doctor from India?

[Hey Yo]

He has a practice in Texas

https://expertwitnessprofiler.com/expert-witness/Satish-Chundru/1544720

[rawimpact]

He has a practice in Texas

https://expertwitnessprofiler.com/expert-witness/Satish-Chundru/1544720

not to mention he was born in maryland

there is a reason why consultations exist amongst the medical profession, it is afterall, practiced.

[GOBB]

He has a practice in Texas

https://expertwitnessprofiler.com/expert-witness/Satish-Chundru/1544720

The fact you even went and googled buddy is even more funny. But yeah cause of death…struggles and restraint, da weed, crazy, sickle cell. Nothing to do with the chokehold applied for long period of time.

[rawimpact]

The fact you even went and googled buddy is even more funny. But yeah cause of death…struggles and restraint, da weed, crazy, sickle cell. Nothing to do with the chokehold applied for long period of time.

Yeah lets laugh at the person who took the time to lookup who the consultant is and their background before making some stupid comment like your previous one...

Laughing at someone while choosing to make ignorant statements... jokes on you. Typical Philly behavior though

[Hey Yo]

The fact you even went and googled buddy is even more funny. But yeah cause of death…struggles and restraint, da weed, crazy, sickle cell. Nothing to do with the chokehold applied for long period of time.

The fact that you racially profiled him and thinking allegedly being from India makes him less knowledgeable ......is what's the funniest .

Wonder if the black dudes helping restrain Neely are racist?

[rawimpact]

The fact that you racially profiled him and thinking allegedly being from India makes him less knowledgeable ......is what's the funniest .

Wonder if the black dudes helping restrain Neely are racist?

he’s a neely supporter because it resonates home I bet. Violence in the home early age, no father figure, life of crime, mental disorder… checks all the boxes of who he and the democrats can get behind and scream injustice. Probably we’re just hoping he was a tranny…


glad to read the marine was acquitted

[rawimpact]

Apparently Jordan’s uncle is a blm leader - he appeared to threaten Penny after the verdict was read. What a true leader for the blacks living in America. A fine example…
Source nyp

[GOBB]

The fact that you racially profiled him and thinking allegedly being from India makes him less knowledgeable ......is what's the funniest .

Wonder if the black dudes helping restrain Neely are racist?

Ignore the meat of the argument and in how it’s laughable that he determined the cause of death. Focus on me joking on outsourcing an India which American companies love to do. If you don’t think buddy choking him longer than he should wasn’t the reason? You’re a moron.

[Patrick Chewing]

Free man walking!!

And the dumb low-IQ BLM people just out there whining and shit. Sit the **** down!

[GOBB]

he’s a neely supporter because it resonates home I bet. Violence in the home early age, no father figure, life of crime, mental disorder… checks all the boxes of who he and the democrats can get behind and scream injustice. Probably we’re just hoping he was a tranny…


glad to read the marine was acquitted

Couldn’t care less for Neely as much as I care for you. What I care about is setting a bad precedent to the general public of idiots like yourself. Hey I can take the law into my hands and even insert excessive force, reckless behavior even if my intent isn’t to kill. But if it is my intent I can hide behind the idea that it was unintentional. How are you a marine and don’t know that choking someone for a certain period of time knocks them out? And how do you know if you continue to choke said person the result could be…death? Guess who knew that? His instructor in the marines who taught marines that move.


But nah stress restrain sickle cell and da weeeeeeeeeeeeed killed neely.

[iamgine]

I think even if the sole cause of death is the chokehold he should still be acquitted

[rawimpact]

Couldn’t care less for Neely as much as I care for you. What I care about is setting a bad precedent to the general public of idiots like yourself. Hey I can take the law into my hands and even insert excessive force, reckless behavior even if my intent isn’t to kill. But if it is my intent I can hide behind the idea that it was unintentional. How are you a marine and don’t know that choking someone for a certain period of time knocks them out? And how do you know if you continue to choke said person the result could be…death? Guess who knew that? His instructor in the marines who taught marines that move.


But nah stress restrain sickle cell and da weeeeeeeeeeeeed killed neely.

play stupid games win stupid prizes. What is a mentally impaired person doing in public to cause a random group of people to have to restrain him? Where was his black father? Where are all black fathers?

I can hear rev Jesse Jackson’s footsteps now… oh wait, he’s walking towards Biden to pardon his son too while he’s in the habit of it.

I will never choose to punish a Good Samaritan when they have good intent and act in ways to preserve the safety of others.


Want someone to blame like the Black community always wants? Blame the broken family. Blame the father. He showed up to court but couldn’t help his son get the help he needed- convenient… he probably smelt money.

Icing on the top is of course the BLM leaders showing true colors and threatening the man found innocent. What a group.. they sure value lives… err black lives only apparently - not racist at all

this type of shit is only news because the black community can’t hold themselves accountable of the things they should have done differently- because that means diverting fault away from the scary white man.

[GOBB]

I think even if the sole cause of death is the chokehold he should still be acquitted

Absolutely not. You can’t choke someone life from them and that’s fine. No one’s life was in danger. Criminally negligent homicide. He’s guilty of that. And I’m not even suggested he do life behind bars. But you can’t allow folks like him to play god and take someone’s life because they are being a disturbance/nuisance in the public.

[iamgine]

Absolutely not. You can’t choke someone life from them and that’s fine. No one’s life was in danger. Criminally negligent homicide. He’s guilty of that. And I’m not even suggested he do life behind bars. But you can’t allow folks like him to play god and take someone’s life because they are being a disturbance/nuisance in the public.

Sure you can. It's clear his intent was to restraint. I think we need to encourage more people like him when the city's law is clearly insufficient.

[GOBB]

Sure you can. It's clear his intent was to restraint. I think we need to encourage more people like him when the city's law is clearly insufficient.

It went beyond restraint. It was reckless. He was trained on the move. He knew what would happen if he didn’t let up. Did he intent to kill buddy? No I don’t think so. But he went overboard for whatever reason and for that? You need to be held accountable. Need more people like him? Yeah you’re lost.

[rawimpact]

It went beyond restraint. It was reckless. He was trained on the move. He knew what would happen if he didn’t let up. Did he intent to kill buddy? No I don’t think so. But he went overboard for whatever reason and for that? You need to be held accountable. Need more people like him? Yeah you’re lost.

He was held accountable. He was charged and acquitted by a jury. If you trust the court system to hold accountability, you have to trust it when it acquits someone as well... cant have it only in the way that fits your agenda.

The world is a safer place with guys like Penny. I'm sure you would just ignore someone in need of help... fits your persona from what it seems.

[Patrick Chewing]

It went beyond restraint. It was reckless. He was trained on the move. He knew what would happen if he didn’t let up. Did he intent to kill buddy? No I don’t think so. But he went overboard for whatever reason and for that? You need to be held accountable. Need more people like him? Yeah you’re lost.

You just want to put more people in jail. Sick man.

[GOBB]

You just want to put more people in jail. Sick man.

Sick is choking the life out of someone like your life was on the line. And it wasn’t.

[RRR3]

The usual suspects defending the murder of a random black man. Probably typed it in their klan robes.

[Patrick Chewing]

The usual suspects defending the murder of a random black man. Probably typed it in their klan robes.

You're literally on the wrong side of everything. It's truly remarkable.

[iamgine]

It went beyond restraint. It was reckless. He was trained on the move. He knew what would happen if he didn’t let up. Did he intent to kill buddy? No I don’t think so. But he went overboard for whatever reason and for that? You need to be held accountable. Need more people like him? Yeah you’re lost.
That's your opinion. The jury and many others disagree. We'll be a better society with more Daniel Penny around.

[Patrick Chewing]

The usual suspects defending the murder of a random black man. Probably typed it in their klan robes.

It's easy to prove you're just a dumb hypocrite. On one hand, you cheer for vigilante justice in the United Healthcare shooter cause the CEO was a "bad guy" in your eyes, and yet here you have a black man that was threatening to kill people on a subway, but yet you somehow don't cheer for the vigilante that subdued this guy and ultimately eliminated the threat.

You're so easy to profile. You are the CLASSIC definition of a radical Liberal. Up is down and down is up for you. If the Right supports it, you rally against it. It's as simple as that. Stop classifying yourself as anything but a radical Leftist loon. That's EXACTLY who you are.

[Neal Romer]

When you shoot someone in self defense youre supposed to shoot to kill, right? Otherwise youre putting yourself in even MORE danger if they recover and begin attacking again.

Why should a choke be any different? This guy was making other passengers feel threatened for their life by his belligerent, menacing, schizophrenic behavior in a confined space where people cant simply move away from. It's tragic bc he was clearly deranged, but thats not Penny's fault. You cant risk him coming back to consciousness suddenly and pulling a knife. You have to err on the side of keeping him out than letting him back in. And "If he dies, he dies."

[RRR3]

It's easy to prove you're just a dumb hypocrite. On one hand, you cheer for vigilante justice in the United Healthcare shooter cause the CEO was a "bad guy" in your eyes, and yet here you have a black man that was threatening to kill people on a subway, but yet you somehow don't cheer for the vigilante that subdued this guy and ultimately eliminated the threat.

You're so easy to profile. You are the CLASSIC definition of a radical Liberal. Up is down and down is up for you. If the Right supports it, you rally against it. It's as simple as that. Stop classifying yourself as anything but a radical Leftist loon. That's EXACTLY who you are.
Lol there's a big difference between having a mental breakdown and being a serial killer. You'd have a point if this guy had killed someone. You threaten to kill people all the time, I guess we should be allowed to kill you by your logic?

[Axe]

You threaten to kill people all the time, I guess we should be allowed to kill you by your logic?
On top of that, he's also pro-abortion iirc. For someone who tried to make himself look religious to other people, that's a big yikes.

[Patrick Chewing]

Lol there's a big difference between having a mental breakdown and being a serial killer. You'd have a point if this guy had killed someone. You threaten to kill people all the time, I guess we should be allowed to kill you by your logic?

:facepalm

More people are murdered and harmed by non-serial killers. If someone threatens you, you just don't stand around and wait till they actually lay a hand on you. And when you're trapped in a metal tube going 40mph underground, you're not left with too many options but to go on the offense.

Again, you're just programmed to go against the belief system of the Right. You're not making much sense by defending murderers and defending threatening lunatics like the subway guy. Every thing you're for is just wrong.

[Patrick Chewing]

On top of that, he's also pro-abortion iirc. For someone who tried to make himself look religious to other people, that's a big yikes.

Axe, the grown-ups are speaking. Go play in the street.

[RRR3]

:facepalm

More people are murdered and harmed by non-serial killers. If someone threatens you, you just don't stand around and wait till they actually lay a hand on you. And when you're trapped in a metal tube going 40mph underground, you're not left with too many options but to go on the offense.

Again, you're just programmed to go against the belief system of the Right. You're not making much sense by defending murderers and defending threatening lunatics like the subway guy. Every thing you're for is just wrong.
You've threatened me, so am I allowed to kill you? :lol

Again, this is your logic.

[Patrick Chewing]

You've threatened me, so am I allowed to kill you? :lol

Again, this is your logic.


If I act on that threat, sure. Use your head for once.

[RRR3]

If I act on that threat, sure. Use your head for once.
Where was this guy acting on the threat? You said he was just saying it, same as you.

[warriorfan]

gobb is a ****ing loser

[Axe]

Axe, the grown-ups are speaking. Go play in the street.
I guess you aren't obsessed with me anymore because it exposes you as a pedo. Just like your autistic butt buddy here. :ohwell:

[highwhey]

You've threatened me, so am I allowed to kill you? :lol

Again, this is your logic.


If I act on that threat, sure. Use your head for once.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/i8SJAiowMJYAAAAC/give-up-quit.gif

[GOBB]

When you shoot someone in self defense youre supposed to shoot to kill, right? Otherwise youre putting yourself in even MORE danger if they recover and begin attacking again.

Why should a choke be any different? This guy was making other passengers feel threatened for their life by his belligerent, menacing, schizophrenic behavior in a confined space where people cant simply move away from. It's tragic bc he was clearly deranged, but thats not Penny's fault. You cant risk him coming back to consciousness suddenly and pulling a knife. You have to err on the side of keeping him out than letting him back in. And "If he dies, he dies."

That’s an utter moronic take if I ever heard one. Yeah a person who is put to sleep in a choke hold wakes up like the undertaker and carries out his act of killing people. Because he also had a knife. The only person I’ve seen do that is Michael Myers. Just think about what you’re saying? A person loses consciousness from a choke coming too. And picking up where they left off. lol You had a good take in the jay z thread. This one set you back. Yikes

[1987_Lakers]

Crazy man gets on a train, takes off his sweater and starts threatening passengers saying "someone is going to die today".

Good riddance. One less idiot off the street.

[GOBB]

That's your opinion. The jury and many others disagree. We'll be a better society with more Daniel Penny around.

He didn’t stop a murderer, a rapist, a serial killer, a kidnapper. He didn’t clean up the streets from drugs and gun violence. He killed an unarmed man by choking him for 6minutes. Not even ufc fighters could have withstood that. I’ve seen them tap out quick. This marine was trained for the move. Neely was of no threat. Worst case is a physical assault if that. No one’s lives was in danger. Crazy people tend to loiter, frequent subways, public transpiration depots. They are not uncommon. They are a nuisance, annoying, bad hygiene, eye sores. Buddy could’ve restrained dude until transit cops arrived. He went overboard because he saw the person as someone lesser than him. Has zero to do with threats made and him wanting to be a hero to say passengers from a violent death. If this wannabe hero put the shooter who murdered the healthcare CEO in the same chokehold and buddy died? Then your comment makes sense. But it doesn’t .

[Patrick Chewing]

Where was this guy acting on the threat? You said he was just saying it, same as you.

Read the testimony of every member on that train. What the hell would you know of actual threats though? You never leave the house.

But seriously. You have a crazy man on a train threatening to kill people and your frame of mind is: "We can't do anything until he actually starts killing us"

:hammerhead:

[RRR3]

Crazy man gets on a train, takes off his sweater and starts threatening passengers saying "someone is going to die today".

Good riddance. One less idiot off the street.
Trump threatens people and you voted for him for President.

[RRR3]

Read the testimony of every member on that train. What the hell would you know of actual threats though? You never leave the house.

But seriously. You have a crazy man on a train threatening to kill people and your frame of mind is: "We can't do anything until he actually starts killing us"

:hammerhead:
Next time you threaten someone, I'm allowed to put you in a chokehold. Got it.

[Neal Romer]

That’s an utter moronic take if I ever heard one. Yeah a person who is put to sleep in a choke hold wakes up like the undertaker and carries out his act of killing people. Because he also had a knife. The only person I’ve seen do that is Michael Myers. Just think about what you’re saying? A person loses consciousness from a choke coming too. And picking up where they left off. lol You had a good take in the jay z thread. This one set you back. Yikes

My takes are motivated by logic and reason. Your takes are motivated by what color the people are, otherwise you wouldnt give a shit. You only weigh in on anything when theres a race angle.

I'll stick with my own judgement thanks.

[GOBB]

My takes are motivated by logic and reason. Your takes are motivated by what color the people are, otherwise you wouldnt give a shit. You only weigh in on anything when theres a race angle.

I'll stick with my own judgement thanks.

Your take is someone who has never rode public transportation. You have no pulse on homeless people that frequent public transportation. Logic? You do realize this guy rap sheet is mainly trespassing which is typically what folks like him do to ride the trains, loiter the stations all day long. You just glossed over facts I wrote. I’m in tune with society. You my friend are not. The fact that you think he would have woke up from being choked for 6mins and was a threat to kill is laughable. But yea play the race argument. You can’t even defend how silly your take sounds. I don’t even think you have a damn clue what happens to someone being choked out for 6mins. Logic? Hahaha yeah not coming from you sadly

[RRR3]

Your take is someone who has never rode public transportation. You have no pulse on homeless people that frequent public transportation. Logic? You do realize this guy rap sheet is trespassing which is typically what folks like him do to ride the trains, loiter the stations all day long. You just glossed over facts I wrote. I’m in tune with society. You my friend are not. The fact that you think he would have woke up from being choked for 6mins and was a threat to kill is laughable. But yea play the race argument. You can’t even defend how silly your take sounds. I don’t even think you have a damn clue what happens to someone being choked out for 6mins. Logic? Hahaha yeah not coming from you sadly
Just in case you don’t realize it you’re talking to starface. He made yet another alt.

[SouBeachTalents]

Threatening people shouldn't be a death sentence, but if you go around trying to intimidate people, threatening them physically, claiming they're going to die, I'm frankly not going to have much sympathy for you if someone calls you on your bluff and you end up in a situation like this.

I have no doubt he was mentally ill, but he would have never been in this predicament in the first place if he didn't go on a subway threatening people's safety.

[RRR3]

Threatening people shouldn't be a death sentence, but if you go around trying to intimidate people, threatening them physically, claiming they're going to die, I'm frankly not going to have much sympathy for you if someone calls you on your bluff and you end up in a situation like this.

I have no doubt he was mentally ill, but he would have never been in this predicament in the first place if he didn't go on a subway threatening people's safety.
But a CEO who made money off people dying, now THATs worth sympathy.

[1987_Lakers]

He was obviously mentally ill and was arrested over 40 times. I'm sorry, you can't take a risk with crazy people like that.

Only reason this is big news is because of race, yawn.

[iamgine]

He didn’t stop a murderer, a rapist, a serial killer, a kidnapper. He didn’t clean up the streets from drugs and gun violence. He killed an unarmed man by choking him for 6minutes. Not even ufc fighters could have withstood that. I’ve seen them tap out quick. This marine was trained for the move. Neely was of no threat. Worst case is a physical assault if that. No one’s lives was in danger. Crazy people tend to loiter, frequent subways, public transpiration depots. They are not uncommon. They are a nuisance, annoying, bad hygiene, eye sores. Buddy could’ve restrained dude until transit cops arrived. He went overboard because he saw the person as someone lesser than him. Has zero to do with threats made and him wanting to be a hero to say passengers from a violent death. If this wannabe hero put the shooter who murdered the healthcare CEO in the same chokehold and buddy died? Then your comment makes sense. But it doesn’t .

What you think he should've interviewed Neely first? Ask him hey man are you a murderer or rapist? His decisive action is what we need more. Society is better with one less Neely and one more Penny around.

[RRR3]

He was obviously mentally ill and was arrested over 40 times. I'm sorry, you can't take a risk with crazy people like that.

Only reason this is big news is because of race, yawn.
You took a risk with a crazy person for President. Yawn.

[GOBB]

What you think he should've interviewed Neely first? Ask him hey man are you a murderer or rapist? His decisive action is what we need more. Society is better with one less Neely and one more Penny around.

Are you slow? You don’t need to chokehold someone for 6minutes. You’re just typing a bunch of nonsense like the other posters in here. UFC fighters aren’t choked out that long. You dudes are out of touch with reality.

[GOBB]

He was obviously mentally ill and was arrested over 40 times. I'm sorry, you can't take a risk with crazy people like that.

Only reason this is big news is because of race, yawn.

Trespassing, petty thefts, hoping turnstiles on the subway. Yeah man can’t fake a risk with people like that. Got to choke them out for 6mins with 2 other people holding him as well. Otherwise casualties would’ve resulted on that train. Deaths, serious but stable condition passengers. You dudes are professional babblers here.

[GOBB]

Just in case you don’t realize it you’re talking to starface. He made yet another alt.

Didn’t realize that. These dudes still having alt accounts is strange.

[Patrick Chewing]

RRR3 melting down in multiple threads for 24 hours straight.

[1987_Lakers]

Trespassing, petty thefts, hoping turnstiles on the subway. Yeah man can’t fake a risk with people like that. Got to choke them out for 6mins with 2 other people holding him as well. Otherwise casualties would’ve resulted on that train. Deaths, serious but stable condition passengers. You dudes are professional babblers here.

Some of those arrests involve assault.

Dude was arrested 43 times in 8 years.

He shouldn't have died, but that's what happens when you threaten to kill other people.

[1987_Lakers]

You took a risk with a crazy person for President. Yawn.

I wasn't going to risk voting for a drunk who slept her way to the top.

[GOBB]

Some of those arrests involve assault.

Dude was arrested 43 times in 8 years.

He shouldn't have died, but that's what happens when you threaten to kill other people.

I’ll help you out. 3 physical assaults. Out of 40+ arrests. Yeah a real threat to society. Beware. Kill if you cross paths and ask questions later. Chokehold for 6 minutes plus two others helping hold him down. Good samaritans. Smh

[1987_Lakers]

I’ll help you out. 3 physical assaults. Out of 40+ arrests. Yeah a real threat to society. Beware. Kill if you cross paths and ask questions later. Chokehold for 6 minutes plus two others helping hold him down. Good samaritans. Smh

Why did you leave out the assaults in your previous post?

[GOBB]

Why did you leave out the assaults in your previous post?

Minor assaults. No one was physically injured. There was no threat of death. No one placed in hospital. You were the one who brought up his criminal history to make him seem like one less criminal off the streets society can do without. When in fact all his run in with the laws were basically trespassing which is what homeless folks tend to do. Petty thefts. You can’t highlight the number of arrests then now want to magnify, glorify the assaults. As some form of justification for society now being better because he was a real menace to society. Then your typical response is to ask a question? Hilarious. Seems like a lazy reply which is par for the course here.


Buddy shouldn’t have been on the street to begin with. Should’ve been in a psyc ward. But hey blame NY for shutting down all those resources. I get you folks sitting in comfy homes with so much idle time to post opinions, topics online daily. But you can’t be that out of touch with reality to think because buddy was mentally ill and homeless? That his life had as much value as a pest (rat, mouse etc). To where snuffing it out is acceptable and ok. And in saying that doesn’t mean I encourage, support how Buddy acted on the train. But restraining him does not warrant death. And folks who are ok with that are scumbags. No one’s life was in danger. That’s a fact.

[west_tip]

GOBB, you are downplaying/minimizing the situation to paint Penny in a bad light.

One of the eye witnesses was a veteran subway rider, died in the wool New Yorker and she said I've seen crazy dudes my whole life on the subway and this situation was on another level. Shes black and was praising Penny as a hero.

That was the consensus from most other people in the carriage who were also pretty terrified.

There's no way for those people to know if Neely had a knife, what he was on or what he was capable of.

Penny may have been overzealous in terms of how hard and how long he applied the chokehold but it's not accurate to act like Neely was just a minor irritant who could be easily ignored. He was getting in peoples faces and making parents with kids afraid.

The fact that he has put hands on strangers before tells you he was more than capable of assaulting one of the passengers.

[1987_Lakers]

GOBB is letting race cloud his judgement. Nothing new.

[warriorfan]

I wish penny didn’t choke this crackhead out and they ended up raping Gobb’s momma in an alley somewhere

[SouBeachTalents]

GOBB, you are downplaying/minimizing the situation to paint Penny in a bad light.

One of the eye witnesses was a veteran subway rider, died in the wool New Yorker and she said I've seen crazy dudes my whole life on the subway and this situation was on another level. Shes black and was praising Penny as a hero.

That was the consensus from most other people in the carriage who were also pretty terrified.

There's no way for those people to know if Neely had a knife, what he was on or what he was capable of.

Penny may have been overzealous in terms of how hard and how long he applied the chokehold but it's not accurate to act like Neely was just a minor irritant who could be easily ignored. He was getting in peoples faces and making parents with kids afraid.

The fact that he has put hands on strangers before tells you he was more than capable of assaulting one of the passengers.
:applause:

I seriously doubt the majority of people are advocating for him to have been killed, but this was not some innocent victim. He had a history of this kind of behavior and in this instance was legitimately threatening a whole group of people, including children.

Like I said earlier, behaving like that shouldn't be a death sentence, but you play with fire enough times you're eventually going to get burned. If I go out and get into people's faces threatening them harm, I can't complain when I get sent to the hospital or the morgue.

He shouldn't have died, but he put himself in this position.

[GOBB]

GOBB, you are downplaying/minimizing the situation to paint Penny in a bad light.

One of the eye witnesses was a veteran subway rider, died in the wool New Yorker and she said I've seen crazy dudes my whole life on the subway and this situation was on another level. Shes black and was praising Penny as a hero.

That was the consensus from most other people in the carriage who were also pretty terrified.

There's no way for those people to know if Neely had a knife, what he was on or what he was capable of.

Penny may have been overzealous in terms of how hard and how long he applied the chokehold but it's not accurate to act like Neely was just a minor irritant who could be easily ignored. He was getting in peoples faces and making parents with kids afraid.

The fact that he has put hands on strangers before tells you he was more than capable of assaulting one of the passengers.

Penny unintentionally killed someone through recklessness. What other light did I paint him in? Besides to say I am not in favor of vigilantes being able to take the law in their own hands in this manner. You want to subdue, restrain him? You can. Never said you couldn’t. Not only was he choking him 2 other helped him. You didn’t see me blame them nor ask their race (this is directed at the other bozo race baiting). When place you in a chokehold? It’s to put you to sleep or neutralize whatever attack was set forth. Upon doing so I KNOW when the person I’m choking out is done. 6 minutes is a long time. There’s people who can last 45 seconds in a fight. It doesn’t take 6 minutes to subdue Neely with two aiding.

I’ve been on public transportation with some of the craziest individuals. Some not even homeless. Yes a person getting on talking crazy making threads where you don’t know if he’s going to swing on you, attack or just verbally assault you? That can put anyone on edge especially folks that can’t defend themselves. That are non confrontational. Passive. Or your resident ISH poster. I totally get it. And let me keep emphasizing I am not against someone taking action to neutralize that person. But certain tactics used you should be aware of what could happen. And anyone using a chokehold should be mindful of that.

What if a gun was used to neutralize Neely and Neely dies? Everyone still feels the same huh? He’s acting crazy. He has a “long rap sheet” he got what he asked for. Death. Sets a bad precedent.

[RRR3]

Yeah once he’s subdued there’s no point in continuing to hold him there. And putting people in a chokehold is wrong period as it’s just dangerous you can subdue people much more safely. SIX minutes?

[warriorfan]

Yeah once he’s subdued there’s no point in continuing to hold him there. And putting people in a chokehold is wrong period as it’s just dangerous you can subdue people much more safely. SIX minutes?

Until you let go and subsequently get stabbed

But yes, keep on with your armchair quarterbacking. lmao

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah once he’s subdued there’s no point in continuing to hold him there. And putting people in a chokehold is wrong period as it’s just dangerous you can subdue people much more safely. SIX minutes?

You have no idea what you’re talking about. :oldlol:

[iamgine]

Are you slow? You don’t need to chokehold someone for 6minutes. You’re just typing a bunch of nonsense like the other posters in here. UFC fighters aren’t choked out that long. You dudes are out of touch with reality.

What reality? The reality is society is better with one less Neely and one more Penny around.

[GOBB]

What reality? The reality is society is better with one less Neely and one more Penny around.

You are repeating the same thing you over and over for what? You’re trying to convince yourself?

[warriorfan]

You are repeating the same thing you over and over for what? You’re trying to convince yourself?

No. He's just trolling the shit out of you and your lame ass takes.

[GOBB]

No. He's just trolling the shit out of you and your lame ass takes.



I wouldn’t put it past highwhey to drunkenly rape one of his 12 year old cousins. tbh

This is the stuff you post here. Shame

[tpols]

I’ll help you out. 3 physical assaults. Out of 40+ arrests. Yeah a real threat to society. Beware. Kill if you cross paths and ask questions later. Chokehold for 6 minutes plus two others helping hold him down. Good samaritans. Smh

40+ arrests?

:biggums:

Are you ****ing kidding me? And that's just what he got caught for.

That's a drain on society point blank. I can't believe you'd even defend that. He lived a rough life and now he's free. He was done a favor honestly. Jail would've just been more hell.

[GOBB]

40+ arrests?

:biggums:

Are you ****ing kidding me? And that's just what he got caught for.

That's a drain on society point blank. I can't believe you'd even defend that. He lived a rough life and now he's free. He was done a favor honestly. Jail would've just been more hell.

Right because he got caught for petty crimes and got away with more heinous ones. His arrest record is irrelevant. If he had zero arrests what changes? You just move the goal post to “well he can’t make threats like that and still live to tell it”. You ignore the reckless behavior by the person who choked him out. And only care to attack the fact Buddy was homeless, had a rap sheet and probably don’t care he suffered from mental illness because of the two things mentioned beforehand. And yes jail wouldn’t have helped Buddy much because NY did away with facilities to help individuals like him. Why don’t you and Stt Slaugher with the chokehold ability go around killing homeless folks all the eye sores, smelly, nuisance, psycho talking folks. Make America great again. (Sarcasm)

You keep trying to attack the character of Neely to justify someone else being able to decide whether they should live or die. It’s different if someone or his life was on the line. They ain’t the case. He like you profiled him and decided to play god. And that somehow makes society better? Is that the nonsense you are trying to say? lol

There’s a lot of scumbags in society walking around. Why doesn’t he go around choking the life out of them? He doesn’t need to say they have a weapon, he fears for his life. Simply say I’m doing society a favor.

[tpols]

His arrest record is irrelevant. If he had zero arrests what changes?



At this point... I really think you're trolling everybody here. But the sad thing is I know you're not. You mean this shit.

:roll:


Anybody that's done crime or been around criminals knows you get away with most of what you do and get pinched in a very small % of your acts.

To be arrested FORTY times? That's a ****ing career criminal / lunatic. And you're a clown for defending his behavior.

I'm not saying it fair. Like I said before he probably came from brutal beginnings. And his output reflected that. But it is what it is. If he was on your front porch doing his same song and dance you definitely wouldn't be singing the same tune. :lol :facepalm

[RRR3]

At this point... I really think you're trolling everybody here. But the sad thing is I know you're not. You mean this shit.

:roll:


Anybody that's done crime or been around criminals knows you get away with most of what you do and get pinched in a very small % of your acts.

To be arrested FORTY times? That's a ****ing career criminal / lunatic. And you're a clown for defending his behavior.

I'm not saying it fair. Like I said before he probably came from brutal beginnings. And his output reflected that. But it is what it is. If he was on your front porch doing his same song and dance you definitely wouldn't be singing the same tune. :lol :facepalm
Crazy you can't see there's a difference between not wanting someone to bother you and deciding that the solution to it is to murder them. There are ways to restrain someone without killing them, so he doesn't get an excuse, especially since he was a Marine and would have enough combat knowledge to know this.

[tpols]

He obviously does get an excuse since he was found not guilty.

[Neal Romer]

I’ll help you out. 3 physical assaults. Out of 40+ arrests. Yeah a real threat to society. Beware. Kill if you cross paths and ask questions later. Chokehold for 6 minutes plus two others helping hold him down. Good samaritans. Smh


:roll:

I genuinely LOL'd out loud at how you said this so matter of factly, thinking it made your point.

"Oh, just three assaults. But out of 40 arrests, that's pretty good!"

And yeah, you're right. If people go around acting like this, take initiative and worry about crying bitches later. If you're so concerned about the consequences for mentally ill people, do something to keep them off the subways. Either support laws that keep disturbed people more closely monitored, or take one into your own home personally and look after him.

You sitting there on a couch under a quilt sipping tea, typing on the internet about the grave injustice, makes you just as culpable as Daniel Penny. You're not doing shit to help or prevent schizos from causing public alarm. But you're passively complaining about how other people handled it after the fact.

Phony virtual signal type shit. You dont care enough to do anything. You just wanna clutch your pearls and fan yourself when someone else takes charge, because you wanna make it look like people who take charge are the bad guys, since you'll never be a guy who takes charge.

I mean dude, you dont wanna think twice about how you see something when the only guy backing you up is RRR3? Really? That's not sending up some red flags in your mind that maybe your reasons for thinking this way arent as selfless as you want to believe?

When RRR3 is your backup?

[tpols]

^

:roll:


Gobb is standing up for people because dey his brother, and RRR3 because he's never stepped foot in the real world for long without getting bullied by existence.

Life is tough man. For all of us.

[tpols]

"Oh, just three assaults. But out of 40 arrests, that's pretty good!"


This actually had me rolling. :lol

[RRR3]

He obviously does get an excuse since he was found not guilty.
So were a lot of guilty people :lol

[RRR3]

^

:roll:


Gobb is standing up for people because dey his brother, and RRR3 because he's never stepped foot in the real world for long without getting bullied by existence.

Life is tough man. For all of us.
I've been in physical fights and been stopped by cops who put stuff on my record that prevented me from getting good jobs for years, you legit don't know my life if you think I haven't experienced "real world" shit :lol I see homeless people all the time, too, they are overwhelmingly just normal people down on their luck, you just hate poor people and are scared of them. This particular dude was unhinged mentally, sure, but like I said, you can restrain someone without killing them, and a Marine would know this. I'm not saying this guy wasn't potentially dangerous, but you can stop someone without murdering them and that needs to be the goal always. A six minute chokehold is just excessive by any definition.

[RRR3]

Also the real world comment is so funny from tpols, because you wouldnt say half the stuff you say on here IRL, like Gobb said. I seriously doubt you interact much with human beings irl if you think saying some of the blatantly racist or insane conspiracy stuff you say wouldn't at minimum get people to look at you sideways. But on ISH, you feel safe expressing it.

[ArbitraryWater]

Also the real world comment is so funny from tpols, because you wouldnt say half the stuff you say on here IRL, like Gobb said. I seriously doubt you interact much with human beings irl if you think saying some of the blatantly racist or insane conspiracy stuff you say wouldn't at minimum get people to look at you sideways. But on ISH, you feel safe expressing it.


tpols hasnt said a single outrageous/offensive thing here.

the majority of people actually agree with this verdict.


gobb is a tired racist.

he must love kendrick lamars race baiting we wuz kangs music.

[GOBB]

:roll:

I genuinely LOL'd out loud at how you said this so matter of factly, thinking it made your point.

"Oh, just three assaults. But out of 40 arrests, that's pretty good!"

And yeah, you're right. If people go around acting like this, take initiative and worry about crying bitches later. If you're so concerned about the consequences for mentally ill people, do something to keep them off the subways. Either support laws that keep disturbed people more closely monitored, or take one into your own home personally and look after him.

You sitting there on a couch under a quilt sipping tea, typing on the internet about the grave injustice, makes you just as culpable as Daniel Penny. You're not doing shit to help or prevent schizos from causing public alarm. But you're passively complaining about how other people handled it after the fact.

Phony virtual signal type shit. You dont care enough to do anything. You just wanna clutch your pearls and fan yourself when someone else takes charge, because you wanna make it look like people who take charge are the bad guys, since you'll never be a guy who takes charge.

I mean dude, you dont wanna think twice about how you see something when the only guy backing you up is RRR3? Really? That's not sending up some red flags in your mind that maybe your reasons for thinking this way arent as selfless as you want to believe?

When RRR3 is your backup?

You clearly pick and choose what you want to quote and comprehend. I replied to someone who mentioned 40+ arrests in 8 years. As his way of showing he was a threat to society. I simply replied 3 physical assaults. Since he didn’t want to mention that and moreso highlight the number. Why you failed to comprehend that is beyond me. Nothing you said is what I said. You literally created a narrative in your mind to then laugh at your own joke. That’s weird. But most of you dudes are weird here. So there’s that.


I don’t live in NY. NY got rid of those institutions where folks like Neely belong. But yeah let me do something in another state. Gotcha. You’re 2 for 2 making sense. You seem to be typing out of emotion now which is funny.

Sitting on a couch under a quilt? I have real life experiences in the public with people. I have real experiences riding public transportation across the region as well as in other states. I’ve experienced head cases that were homeless and WERE NOT homeless while commuting on public transportation. I hinted at some of this in prior posts but you selectively choose what to read or not read. And again create these weird narratives. Are these projections? Are you talking about yourself here? I’ve helped people of need while also being annoyed, irked, irritated by folks in need lashing out on public transportation. No clue what you’re trying to convey here.

None of my posts have said nor suggested Neely was fine. Let him be. You want to restrain buddy til the transit cops arrive? Have at it. But you don’t get to decide to snuff someone’s life out because you feel empowered by thinking they are lesser than you. They are not a human being. They are a pest in the sense of a rat, mouse, roach. And you want to exterminate them and make America great again. It’s really simple. Why you can’t grasp it? Sounds like a you problem.

So because one poster is backing me and a few others are disagreeing. Somehow my opinion is invalid? Your logic is flawed. But again that’s my mistake for giving people on ISH the benefit of the doubt. I should’ve read the room before engaging with the usual suspects.

Still waiting to see how society is better now. Guess the cost of living is better. Groceries are cheaper as well as gas. Tax breaks. Crime down. Don’t have to read stories of murders, car jackings etc. good job whatever dude name was that puts someone in a chokehold for 6mins where even a pro fighter wouldn’t withstand.

[GOBB]

tpols hasnt said a single outrageous/offensive thing here.

the majority of people actually agree with this verdict.


gobb is a tired racist.

he must love kendrick lamars race baiting we wuz kangs music.

You're a weenie. And again what’s with you dudes making up stuff? When was I a big Kendrick Lamar fan? Then you make a lame remark after it. So I want to see the Lakers fan in this thread that had a lot to say check you on that. Doubt he does. But I’m the tired racist. The irony.

[RRR3]

You're a weenie. And again what’s with you dudes making up stuff? When was I a big Kendrick Lamar fan? Then you make a lame remark after it. So I want to see the Lakers fan in this thread that had a lot to say check you on that. Doubt he does. But I’m the tired racist. The irony.
This is the political party dude openly admits to supporting btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_for_Germany

[ArbitraryWater]

Rrr3 after reading a party dare be against mass migrant waves:


https://media1.tenor.com/m/5YJp31j_cEoAAAAd/triggered-meme.gif