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Neal Romer
12-12-2024, 11:00 PM
Title.

Gilbert wasnt really good at anything but chucking. He was also an insecure clown who didnt take winning seriously, as a way to deflect from not being good at it.

If you put Pritchard on a shit team and let him just be a clown at the expense of a team, he could chuck the ball and drop 30 every night. That's pretty much all Arenas' career was.

Aye?

iamgine
12-12-2024, 11:17 PM
Arenas was a legit top 10 player and franchise player for a couple of seasons. He had a pretty big impact and not just "clown at the expense of the team".

highwhey
12-12-2024, 11:19 PM
Arenas was a legit top 10 player and franchise player for a couple of seasons. He had a pretty big impact and not just "clown at the expense of the team".

i strongly think OP is projecting here, he does make a daily thread about lebron's genitals afterall

Real Men Wear Green
12-12-2024, 11:20 PM
He might be 5 inches shorter. Both are perimeter scorers but the comparison isn't particularly good.

Axe
12-12-2024, 11:33 PM
He's white also, if you happen to care about their skin colors.

Neal Romer
12-12-2024, 11:45 PM
Arenas was a legit top 10 player and franchise player for a couple of seasons. He had a pretty big impact and not just "clown at the expense of the team".

Oof, casual fan alert.

Neal Romer
12-12-2024, 11:47 PM
He might be 5 inches shorter. Both are perimeter scorers but the comparison isn't particularly good.


Source?

Theyre listed as two inches apart. :confusedshrug:

RRR3
12-12-2024, 11:49 PM
He might be 5 inches shorter. Both are perimeter scorers but the comparison isn't particularly good.
OP isn't particularly bright.

Real Men Wear Green
12-13-2024, 12:21 AM
Source?

Theyre listed as two inches apart. :confusedshrug:

They're listed as 6'1 and 6'4. And as someone that had actually seen Pritchard I doubt he is 6 feet. A key element to Arenas's game is that he could shoot over a lot of defenders. It wasn't great offense but he could do it and did often. Pritchard can't shoot over anyone. He can get open with quickness, handle and guile but he's one of the smallest players in the league. If he ever gets to star it will l be a more of a point guard, which he can do but doesn't much for Boston because so many other guys handle the ball.

Mask the Embiid
12-13-2024, 12:40 AM
OP just say you dont like gilbert because he's a racist....say the real reason why this thread was made you pos... He triggered/triggers you. JUST ADMIT IT!

Carbine
12-13-2024, 01:11 AM
It would be a great case test.

I think he could easily average 25 a game today. Possibly 30 if he has the Lamelo Ball green light to put up 25-30 shots a game.

Neal Romer
12-13-2024, 01:22 AM
OP just say you dont like gilbert because he's a racist....say the real reason why this thread was made you pos... He triggered/triggers you. JUST ADMIT IT!


:lol This guy gets it.

Altho he def doesnt trigger me, but the thread title was in fact a reference to Dilbert's recent comments about Pritchard and Drew Peterson. I saw Pritch had a big night tonight and it made me think of ol Dil. Wanted to see if anyone would pick up on the connection and mention it.

Appreciate ya helpin out :cheers:

RRR3
12-13-2024, 01:23 AM
It would be a great case test.

I think he could easily average 25 a game today. Possibly 30 if he has the Lamelo Ball green light to put up 25-30 shots a game.
Lots of players could average 25 if you let them take enough shots. Jalen Green averaged like 22 a few years ago and he's pretty damn bad by NBA standards. Scoring 25 and helping the team though is something only a select few can do.

GOBB
12-13-2024, 11:01 AM
Lots of players could average 25 if you let them take enough shots. Jalen Green averaged like 22 a few years ago and he's pretty damn bad by NBA standards. Scoring 25 and helping the team though is something only a select few can do.

Pretty much. Which is why it puzzles me people still use the give so and so x amount of shots he can average this. Gilbert actually carried a franchise to the playoffs with his scoring.

tontoz
12-13-2024, 11:07 AM
Gil averaged 10 FTs per game one season. He used to attack the basket relentlessly.

Pritchard is averaging 1.8 FTs per game which is a career high. :lol

Not similar at all.

Kblaze8855
12-13-2024, 02:45 PM
Gil averaged 10 FTs per game one season. He used to attack the basket relentlessly.

Pritchard is averaging 1.8 FTs per game which is a career high. :lol

Not similar at all.

That was my first thought but I decided to ignore it since I assumed it wasn’t a serious comparison.

People do a lot of downplaying of many volume scorers and OP is both into that and has a little racial component he likes to work in so I figured it was just a bit of a troll job.

People really don’t seem to see Gilbert as an athlete but he was good sized, strong, and really fast with good hops as well.

I always remember seeing an old Olympic track coach who ho worked with him when he was doing that part time who said he was as naturally fast as some Olympian sprinters he’d trained he just didn’t have the time to perfect his technique not being 100% dedicated to it.

That guy was a great athlete. Really quick and explosive. Just a bit of a dick on top of it. But I can hardly talk.

Neal Romer
12-13-2024, 05:47 PM
That was my first thought but I decided to ignore it since I assumed it wasn’t a serious comparison.

People do a lot of downplaying of many volume scorers and OP is both into that and has a little racial component he likes to work in so I figured it was just a bit of a troll job.

People really don’t seem to see Gilbert as an athlete but he was good sized, strong, and really fast with good hops as well.

I always remember seeing an old Olympic track coach who ho worked with him when he was doing that part time who said he was as naturally fast as some Olympian sprinters he’d trained he just didn’t have the time to perfect his technique not being 100% dedicated to it.

That guy was a great athlete. Really quick and explosive. Just a bit of a dick on top of it. But I can hardly talk.


Well it was more of a dig at Dilbert because of HIS racial component. I dont have any racial agenda in player comparisons myself. I try to bring the objectivity.

But I did always think Dil was a clown and a loser long before I knew anything about his Pritchard comments and racially focused podcast. Just the fact that he never took competition seriously, was always cutting up being a bozo at the expense of his team, and he was extremely one dimensional.

I'd legitimately rather have Pritchard on a team. You cant win anything with Dilbert as the guy and you cant put any better players around him who wouldnt eventually wanna knock him out for being a tard. Imagine Giannis putting up with Dilbert's clown show. Dilbert was a complete basketball loser.

Kblaze8855
12-13-2024, 07:27 PM
Well as is usually the case in ridiculous all nba vs role player comparisons you’d be stupid to take the role player even if you wanted him. You take Arenas and trade him for 2 role players you like and whatever draft picks you can get.

You can’t win anything in the first half of the season but you can let him score the 30 a game he’d probably average today and look to flip him for assets.

30ppg guys aren’t as common as “You can let anyone shoot a lot” fans think. If it were they would be way more common on bad teams. It’s tough getting that many looks and creating all those fouls and your team still being in the playoffs.

They could have been better but that’s just as true of dozens of good players people don’t complain about.

Volume scorers always get the “Can’t win that way” talk as if 78 great players who weren’t volume scorers didn’t lead solid teams nowhere.

It only sticks to a certain kinda guy though.

RRR3
12-13-2024, 07:30 PM
Arenas was extremely efficient as a volume scorer, bizarre to categorize him as some guy just wasting possessions to get points.

warriorfan
12-13-2024, 07:30 PM
That was my first thought but I decided to ignore it since I assumed it wasn’t a serious comparison.

People do a lot of downplaying of many volume scorers and OP is both into that and has a little racial component he likes to work in so I figured it was just a bit of a troll job.

People really don’t seem to see Gilbert as an athlete but he was good sized, strong, and really fast with good hops as well.

I always remember seeing an old Olympic track coach who ho worked with him when he was doing that part time who said he was as naturally fast as some Olympian sprinters he’d trained he just didn’t have the time to perfect his technique not being 100% dedicated to it.

That guy was a great athlete. Really quick and explosive. Just a bit of a dick on top of it. But I can hardly talk.

“Just a bit of a dick” is not doing Arenas justice.

Dude is full blown mentally ill. From what I remember he had an absolute horrible childhood so it’s not surprising he has some serious problems.

But yeah there are plenty of guys who are assholes in the league. Gilbert was on another level.

Wally450
12-13-2024, 07:49 PM
Gilbert has better handles than Pritchard has. I don't think Pritchard would be able to create his own shot on a bad team like Gilbert was able to.

Im Still Ballin
12-13-2024, 07:51 PM
That potential #1 pick Dylan Harper is strong-bodied and draws a lot of fouls like Gilbert. Does anyone see any similarities there? I'm not sure, but he seems to be a large, physically overpowering skilled guard that's really hard to stop getting downhill. Harden/Arenas?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbmBpVTXZVE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muX98zoRY7E&pp=ygUMZHlsYW4gaGFycGVy

tontoz
12-13-2024, 08:26 PM
Dylan is certainly closer to Arenas than pritchard :lol

Looks like Arenas has OP all in his feels.

Real Men Wear Green
12-13-2024, 08:42 PM
Arenas is easy to crush for his stupid opinions, no need to make a silly comparison. Though most people that listen to him do it because they want to hear him say something crazy, no one listens thinking he's smart.

Neal Romer
12-13-2024, 09:21 PM
Arenas is easy to crush for his stupid opinions, no need to make a silly comparison. Though most people that listen to him do it because they want to hear him say something crazy, no one listens thinking he's smart.


As I've already explained, it was made in the context of Arenas recently hating on Pritchard and other white players he resents, which clearly went over all but a few heads here.

tontoz
12-13-2024, 10:20 PM
As I've already explained, it was made in the context of Arenas recently hating on Pritchard and other white players he resents, which clearly went over all but a few heads here.

Or maybe some of haven't been paying attention to Arenas at all. I had no idea that he said anything about pritchard.

Kblaze8855
12-13-2024, 10:21 PM
Saying stupid things doesn’t mean they are going over peoples head when they don’t understand why you said them. The majority of stupid things that get said are simply stupid. And without obvious sarcasm or humor, it’s safe to assume most stupid statements are just that.

Neal Romer
12-14-2024, 12:06 AM
Just for anyone who's curious:


The problem was Arenas’s size and lack of experience. He’s a fraction under six-foot-three in his bare feet, not big enough to play shooting guard in the NBA. He’d be dominated by bigger players like Kobe Bryant. Arenas wanted to be a point guard, but he’d played that position only sporadically at Arizona. “No one was quite sure what his position was,” says Wally Walker. “It turned out he didn’t need a position. He’s just a guard. We missed on him, based on what we know now.”


https://www.washingtonian.com/2006/11/01/gilbert-arenas-the-assassin/

GOBB
12-14-2024, 12:24 AM
“Just a bit of a dick” is not doing Arenas justice.

Dude is full blown mentally ill. From what I remember he had an absolute horrible childhood so it’s not surprising he has some serious problems.

But yeah there are plenty of guys who are assholes in the league. Gilbert was on another level.

Horrible childhood? Gil has been transparent about his childhood all the up to the NBA. Nothing suggested what you claim. And there’s plenty of interviews where Gilbert is speaking on life growing up and his upbringing in depth. Nice try tho.

warriorfan
12-14-2024, 12:33 AM
Horrible childhood? Gil has been transparent about his childhood all the up to the NBA. Nothing suggested what you claim. And there’s plenty of interviews where Gilbert is speaking on life growing up and his upbringing in depth. Nice try tho.

You act like a sassy lady. You’re a real f.agget.

GOBB
12-14-2024, 01:12 AM
You act like a sassy lady. You’re a real f.agget.

And you constantly say things online you wouldnt say offline. Type in caps next time they’ll really get me.

I enjoy making you look stupid here. Notice you can’t even back up the nonsense you claimed? You have a habit here creating false narratives then tucking ya tail and hiding.

warriorfan
12-14-2024, 02:01 AM
And you constantly say things online you wouldnt say offline. Type in caps next time they’ll really get me.

I enjoy making you look stupid here. Notice you can’t even back up the nonsense you claimed? You have a habit here creating false narratives then tucking ya tail and hiding.

I was mistaken. It’s not a big deal. You don’t have to act like a little bitch about it.

If I’m ever in shithole philly again i’ll send you an address and whip your old midget ass if you show up

GOBB
12-14-2024, 04:51 AM
I was mistaken. It’s not a big deal. You don’t have to act like a little bitch about it.

If I’m ever in shithole philly again i’ll send you an address and whip your old midget ass if you show up

Mistaken? It’s not a big deal? It is because you created a false narrative and tried to pass it off as a fact. Who knows how long or where else you spread this lie at. It took for me calling you out to admit you were dead wrong? So I don’t do that you continue to post your nonsense? Hahaha Maybe the jokes on me that no one here cares to take you serious and fact check you. So they allow you to spew nonsense because they know warriorsfan just babbles here. Nothing new/nothing to see here. I think I’m starting to follow.

Life lesson for you kid. When you get called on your shyt? Own it by taking accountability and not lashing out like a spoiled brat.

warriorfan
12-14-2024, 03:54 PM
Mistaken? It’s not a big deal? It is because you created a false narrative and tried to pass it off as a fact. Who knows how long or where else you spread this lie at. It took for me calling you out to admit you were dead wrong? So I don’t do that you continue to post your nonsense? Hahaha Maybe the jokes on me that no one here cares to take you serious and fact check you. So they allow you to spew nonsense because they know warriorsfan just babbles here. Nothing new/nothing to see here. I think I’m starting to follow.

Life lesson for you kid. When you get called on your shyt? Own it by taking accountability and not lashing out like a spoiled brat.

You act like a woman and I will slap the shit out of your goofball ass if I ever see you

GOBB
12-14-2024, 05:20 PM
You act like a woman and I will slap the shit out of your goofball ass if I ever see you

Tough guys who would really do what you typed don’t sit around posting like you do.