Less games in the playoffs would lead to less 3 point shooting

[90sgoat]

There are so many things you could do counter the 3 point shooting sprees.

One thing is going back to the first 2 rounds being 5 games, not 7 games.

This would force the better teams to shoot less 3 pointers, because of the increased variance of 3 point shooting, meaning that because 3 pointers more often miss, you risk losing a series due to bad shooting.

With 7 games you have more games to hit your shots, so you can just go full Celtics. With fewer games, it makes more sense as the better team to look for lower variance shots like midrange and post up.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What makes you win or lose one game isn't going to change just because you have to win one more game. That doesn't make any sense. Taking a two instead of a three is a decision that could be made in a close game based on what a team needs to win at the end, not the illogical idea that you're more likely to miss the three you're about to take because you have another game on Wednesday.

[Kblaze8855]

Nothing is going to lead to less three-point shooting. Nothing.

We are just where the old-school people were in the 1930s when basketball coaches realized they could just find really tall people who could dunk or lay it up easily.

They had the exact same arguments. People trying to figure out a way around it. Raise the rim so nobody can dunk. All that stuck was the three second violation inside.

You should read those old articles. From the late 30s and early 40s people saying big men had made scoring so easy there was nothing left to cheer for when a basket was made. They thought it was going to destroy the game.

All the NBA has to do is wait us out. They won’t lose a dollar due to worse ratings for at least the next 12 years. The new right deal hasn’t even started yet. It will be like 2036 before they even renegotiate. None of the demographic will remember anything but this game.

We all really have to make peace with it. Nothing is going to change it. Three-pointers are just our version of coaches realizing tall people didn’t need to be good at shooting to score easily 100 years ago.

[Neal Romer]

There are so many things you could do counter the 3 point shooting sprees.

One thing is going back to the first 2 rounds being 5 games, not 7 games.

This would force the better teams to shoot less 3 pointers, because of the increased variance of 3 point shooting, meaning that because 3 pointers more often miss, you risk losing a series due to bad shooting.

With 7 games you have more games to hit your shots, so you can just go full Celtics. With fewer games, it makes more sense as the better team to look for lower variance shots like midrange and post up.


Yeah I think this merits that Billy Madison thing about the no points and God having mercy on your soul.

Im not gonna bother search for it cuz I think everyone knows what Im referring to.

So just imagine Ive responded with that.

[90sgoat]

What makes you win or lose one game isn't going to change just because you have to win one more game. That doesn't make any sense. Taking a two instead of a three is a decision that could be made in a close game based on what a team needs to win at the end, not the illogical idea that you're more likely to miss the three you're about to take because you have another game on Wednesday.

Aha, but the analydids people will understand my argument, which is statistically correct, and they seem to run the show.

[90sgoat]

Nothing is going to lead to less three-point shooting. Nothing.

We are just where the old-school people were in the 1930s when basketball coaches realized they could just find really tall people who could dunk or lay it up easily.

They had the exact same arguments. People trying to figure out a way around it. Raise the rim so nobody can dunk. All that stuck was the three second violation inside.

You should read those old articles. From the late 30s and early 40s people saying big men had made scoring so easy there was nothing left to cheer for when a basket was made. They thought it was going to destroy the game.

All the NBA has to do is wait us out. They won’t lose a dollar due to worse ratings for at least the next 12 years. The new right deal hasn’t even started yet. It will be like 2036 before they even renegotiate. None of the demographic will remember anything but this game.

We all really have to make peace with it. Nothing is going to change it. Three-pointers are just our version of coaches realizing tall people didn’t need to be good at shooting to score easily 100 years ago.

Nothing lasts forever, but if this is basketball, then maybe it deserves to die and we can all play tennis or some other thing.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Aha, but the analydids people will understand my argument, which is statistically correct, and they seem to run the show.
I never did properly consider the opinion the **** di...oh wait, I misunderstood you. Never mind.

[Duffy Pratt]

Nothing is going to lead to less three-point shooting. Nothing.

We are just where the old-school people were in the 1930s when basketball coaches realized they could just find really tall people who could dunk or lay it up easily.

They had the exact same arguments. People trying to figure out a way around it. Raise the rim so nobody can dunk. All that stuck was the three second violation inside.

You should read those old articles. From the late 30s and early 40s people saying big men had made scoring so easy there was nothing left to cheer for when a basket was made. They thought it was going to destroy the game.

All the NBA has to do is wait us out. They won’t lose a dollar due to worse ratings for at least the next 12 years. The new right deal hasn’t even started yet. It will be like 2036 before they even renegotiate. None of the demographic will remember anything but this game.

We all really have to make peace with it. Nothing is going to change it. Three-pointers are just our version of coaches realizing tall people didn’t need to be good at shooting to score easily 100 years ago.

The first recorded dunk was in 1936. The first true big man in basketball was George Mikan, in the early 50s. The lane was widened from 6 to 12 feet to keep him further from the basket in the post. The league also instituted goal tending because of him. But there was no dunking ban.

There wasn’t one with Wilt or Russell either. The league changed the rules to make things harder for Wilt (back in the day when rules were tightened to restrict stars, instead of now when they are relaxed to make things easier for stars). Mikan, Wilt and Russell mostly didn’t dunk, though they easily could have. It was more a question of culture, and potential retaliation, and not because of the rules.

The dunking ban came into effect in 1967 and lasted to 76. Most people think it was because of fear of Kareem when he was in high school. Kareem has said that it was because black players dunked more often than whites. The upshot, in the short term, was that Kareem developed the sky hook.

I have no idea what you are talking about with this purported history from the 30s and 40s. You say that we should read those articles. Maybe you could link to them or post them?

[Kblaze8855]

The first recorded dunk was in 1936. The first true big man in basketball was George Mikan, in the early 50s. The lane was widened from 6 to 12 feet to keep him further from the basket in the post. The league also instituted goal tending because of him. But there was no dunking ban.

There wasn’t one with Wilt or Russell either. The league changed the rules to make things harder for Wilt (back in the day when rules were tightened to restrict stars, instead of now when they are relaxed to make things easier for stars). Mikan, Wilt and Russell mostly didn’t dunk, though they easily could have. It was more a question of culture, and potential retaliation, and not because of the rules.

The dunking ban came into effect in 1967 and lasted to 76. Most people think it was because of fear of Kareem when he was in high school. Kareem has said that it was because black players dunked more often than whites. The upshot, in the short term, was that Kareem developed the sky hook.

I have no idea what you are talking about with this purported history from the 30s and 40s. You say that we should read those articles. Maybe you could link to them or post them?


I didn’t say they banned it I said they proposed it along with many other solutions to the problem they saw of bigmen taking the skill out of the game.

The main opponent of the bigs was Phog Allen who wad actually the first basketball coach ever and lasted all the way up to Wilt. He coached for 50 years. He recruited and signed Wilt and wanted to use him to make a mockery of the game and have him dunk every time to prove a point the game was broken but the school forced him into retirement before Wilts freshman season.

Hes the guy who had the idea to raise rims to 12 feet.

Ill find you something to read about it…

[Kblaze8855]

He did a lot to make basketball what it is…but he was more anti dunk than anyone today is anti three



A decade after returning to coach Kansas in 1919, Allen began stumping for higher baskets. To show their value, he staged a couple of experimental games with 12-foot rims against Kansas State in 1934. Allen reported that Naismith observed and approved the results.




Allen wasn’t out to convince just one man, however, but the entire country. And so he appeared in Country Gentleman magazine in 1935 with an article entitled, “Dunking Isn’t Basketball.”

In the piece, Allen describes being disappointed by the quality of play at an Amateur Athletic Union tournament—sound familiar?—he’d recently attended. “Those tall fellows were leaping at the ten-foot baskets and were literally ‘dunking’ the ball into the hoop, just as a doughnut is inelegantly dipped into the morning coffee,” he wrote. “And I say that is not basketball. My conception of the game is that goals should be shot and not dunked.”




He was salty as hell they didn’t let him stay to use wilt to make a point that the dunk was too unstoppable.



“The only reason I wanted to stick around another year,” he said, “was to stuff the 10-foot basket down the rules committee’s throat.”


Theres a lot more.

The nba actually had a 12 foot goal game and Mikan went 2-14.


https://stewthornley.net/mplslakers_12foot.html




Long ass story about that.


These are the things you stumble across at 3am as a(formerly) nba obsessed type.

I’ll find you some more if you want it.

Lot of players and coaches had strong takes on bigmen ruining the game. Back to the 20s even. They talked about making a rule you couldn’t be over 6’7” and play.

All kinds of weird shit is lost to history.