Israel in a nutshell

[highwhey]

https://i.redd.it/z2yr98cce87e1.jpeg

[j3lademaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piIgkqPmI-w

[j3lademaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5-0bKtwuY&ab_channel=AlJazeeraEnglish

[diamenz]

^those settlers are clearly defending themselves. it isn't their fault the home owners are using their homes like human shields. we won't stop until we've achieved victory by defeating homeowners, er... hamas.

am i doing this right?

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piIgkqPmI-w

in the united states those homeowners would have had every right to blow that man's brains out.

[j3lademaster]

in the united states those homeowners would have had every right to blow that man's brains out.

This is exactly why despite me thinking Hamas is a terrorist organization, I can see from the Palestinian people's perspective of why they would go to them. When your own govt is sending troops to defend these settlers in taking your homes, you will turn to whoever says they'll help you. Will they actually? I don't know, but I'll take my chances because anything is better than this.

And how big of a failure do you have to be as an american jew that you're better off living in a shithole like Palestine? I'm honestly at a loss for words. I'd rather be a lumberjack in Appalachia.

[Patrick Chewing]

Stole whose land? The Jews were there long before Mohammed made an appearance in that region.

[RRR3]

Stole whose land? The Jews were there long before Mohammed made an appearance in that region.
By this logic, I assume you’d be fine if a Native American kicked you out of your home and took it right?

[Patrick Chewing]

By this logic, I assume you’d be fine if a Native American kicked you out of your home and took it right?

It’s so weird how you don’t defend your own people.

Native Americans have been given land and concessions. Native Americans even sold their lands.

Hamas wants all of Israel gone. They do no want to coexist despite all the deals that Israel has offered them.

[Media Moderator]

How about this nutshell?

Consanguinity rate
44.3% of Palestinian marriages are between relatives, with 22.6% being between first cousins. This is one of the highest rates in the world.
Genetic disorders
The high rate of inbreeding leads to a high prevalence of autosomal recessive disorders. For example, in one study, 601 out of 2,000 Palestinian Arab families had an autosomal recessive disease.


Average IQ in the Gaza Strip 77.9
Borderline Intellectual Functioning IQ 71-84

[ArbitraryWater]

Chewing in here talking about Hamas right on cue :lol


Israel long attacked Palestine before Hamas was ever created and financially built up by Israel

[ArbitraryWater]

How about this nutshell?

Consanguinity rate
44.3% of Palestinian marriages are between relatives, with 22.6% being between first cousins. This is one of the highest rates in the world.
Genetic disorders
The high rate of inbreeding leads to a high prevalence of autosomal recessive disorders. For example, in one study, 601 out of 2,000 Palestinian Arab families had an autosomal recessive disease.


Average IQ in the Gaza Strip 77.9
Borderline Intellectual Functioning IQ 71-84


Dude, theyre being kept in a prison camp.

The fact their average IQ is 80 is pretty admirable.

African and Asian countries are at 50-60.


All of this is whitewashing a genocide.

[Patrick Chewing]

Chewing in here talking about Hamas right on cue :lol


Israel long attacked Palestine before Hamas was ever created and financially built up by Israel

Oh yea? So Israel started it huh?

Y’all are some ****ing clowns. :oldlol:

[jstern]

Imagine some fat **** thinking he's special, coming over from NY to take your house. If there were no laws and I saw that fat **** walking here in NY, I would beat him to an inch of his life even if it wasn't my house that he took, because he's no different from a Venezuelan arm moto robber. Same person, different body. No different from a squatter. We're talking about disgusting people.


https://youtu.be/cINNBGog2iQ


https://youtu.be/VzpFS9T_xR8

[Media Moderator]

Dude, theyre being kept in a prison camp.

The fact their average IQ is 80 is pretty admirable.

African and Asian countries are at 50-60.


All of this is whitewashing a genocide.


The people of Gaza are even dumber than the West Bank. What kind of a prison has a sea bordering it with no one stopping them from leaving :lol

The best thing the world can do for them is lace the food and drink we aid them with birth control chemicals

[highwhey]

the us should send over ar-15s to every palestinian kid and adult so they can defend their country against israel. why can't we pay for palestine's own iron dome? maybe some f16's too, a warship or two. leftover tanks. iraq is near palestine right? don't we have a bunch of leftover armor and tanks? ship them over, train them, send a seal team to kill netanyahu, let the palestinians defend themselves :applause:

[Media Moderator]

the us should send over ar-15s to every palestinian kid and adult so they can defend their country against israel. why can't we pay for palestine's own iron dome? maybe some f16's too, a warship or two. leftover tanks. iraq is near palestine right? don't we have a bunch of leftover armor and tanks? ship them over, train them, send a seal team to kill netanyahu, let the palestinians defend themselves :applause:

They are way too dumb and dirty to maintain gas operated rifles. Best to give them AK-47s. Not that it will make a huge difference

https://x.com/IdiotsInCamera/status/1865321281811575250

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[diamenz]

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[highwhey]

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"3 sets of being a victim"

"the gym was promised to him 2000 years ago"

:roll:

[diamenz]

Hamas wants all of Israel gone. They do no want to coexist despite all the deals that Israel has offered them.

right - hamas does want all of israel gone - it's literally written in their charter. hamas is a terrorist organization and they fully demonstrated that fact on the 7th of october when they slaughtered hundreds (as well as possibly committed other heinous acts which have not been yet proven) of innocent women and children. that being said, oct 7th should have come as no surprise to anyone. when you occupy a people (to varying degrees over the decades) and trap and maintain strict to absolute control over them in what's been coined as "the largest open air prison in the world", yeah - these kind of... 'prison breaks' are probably going to end up happening at some point.

however, on the contrary, the current extremist government of israel wants all of palestine gone - it literally says so in the likud charter. so let's not act like either side is an honest broker for peace. let's also not act as if palestinians were ever genuinely offered their own state - it has always been on israel's terms.

the difference in this equation is the power dynamic at play and what israel, along with our absolute backing are capable of carrying out going forward.

now, this zionist conqest for a "greater israel" (which has now expanded in scope beyond what was originally "from the [jordan] river to the sea" - a term also used in the lukid charter) now includes the entirety of gaza and the west bank - the former of which is now nearly completely turned to rubble, its inhabitants killed in mass and forced out aka ethnically cleansed and will of which ultimately be taken over by jewish settlers; as well of course the west bank which has for some time now, even prior to the 7th of oct, is also being actively seized by jewish settlers, even moreso subsequently since the terrorist attack. this will all ultimately amount to the "greater israel" that netanyahu and the zionists have been on a conquest for for decades which we, america, fully support and facilitate. furthermore, at present, it seems to be the case that southern lebanon, parts of syria as well as just recently talks of parts of egypt (due to some silly biblical claim to land) being a part of israel's zionist expansion according to ministers ben gvir and smotrich. the only reason the entirety egypt and jordan aren't considered to be targets is because they're nothing but puppet governments that are subservient the us and are willing to do our bidding because they need us to survive.

so it couldn't be any more clear that is about a lot more than just destroying hamas and freeing the hostages. the netanyahu government is on a conquest to kill and drive out the palestinian population and in the process drive a stake into the heart of a two-state solution, create a "greater israel" and with our unwavering commitment and support - overthrow surrounding governments that support the palestinian cause and establish supremacy in the region. an agenda of which that has shown over the decades to be true in our interventions in libya, iraq, syria, somalia, sudan etc. the pieces of the puzzle are all there for anyone with a triple digit iq to put together and time will indeed reveal it all to be true. you can put that on rrr3's clit. the wild card is of course iran. if there's any possibility of a ww3, you can bet your last dollar it will revolve around iran. that's, without having to mention, why all of this is so dangerous for the entire world.

i don't support this. do you?

[j3lademaster]

right - hamas does want all of israel gone - it's literally written in their charter. hamas is a terrorist organization and they fully demonstrated that fact on the 7th of october when they slaughtered hundreds (as well as possibly committed other heinous acts which have not been yet proven) of innocent women and children. that being said, oct 7th should have come as no surprise to anyone. when you occupy a people (to varying degrees over the decades) and trap and maintain strict to absolute control over them in what's been coined as "the largest open air prison in the world", yeah - these kind of... 'prison breaks' are probably going to end up happening at some point.

however, on the contrary, the current extremist government of israel wants all of palestine gone - it literally says so in the likud charter. so let's not act like either side is an honest broker for peace. let's also not act as if palestinians were ever genuinely offered their own state - it has always been on israel's terms.

now, this zionist conqest for a "greater israel" (which has now expanded in scope beyond what was originally "from the [jordan] river to the sea" - a term also used in the lukid charter) now includes the entirety of gaza and the west bank - the former of which is now nearly completely turned to rubble, its inhabitants killed in mass and forced out aka ethnically cleansed and will of which ultimately be taken over by jewish settlers as well of course the west bank which has for some time now, even prior to the 7th of oct, is also being actively seized by jewish settlers, even moreso subsequently since the terrorist attack. this will all ultimately amount to the "greater israel" that netanyahu and the zionists have been on a conquest for for decades which we, america, fully support and facilitate. furthermore, at present, it seems to be the case that southern lebanon, parts of syria as well as just recently talks of parts of egypt (due to some silly biblical claim to land) being a part of israel's zionist expansion according to ministers ben gvir and smotrich. the only reason the entirety egypt and jordan aren't considered to be targets is because they're nothing but puppet governments that are subservient the us and are willing to do our bidding because they need us to survive.

so it couldn't be any more clear that is about a lot more than just destroying hamas and freeing the hostages. the netanyahu government is on a conquest to kill and drive out the palestinian population and in the process drive a stake into the heart of a two-state solution, create a "greater israel" and with our unwavering commitment and support - overthrow surrounding governments that support the palestinian cause and establish supremacy in the region. an agenda of which that has shown over the decades to be true in our interventions in libya, iraq, syria, somalia, sudan etc. the pieces of the puzzle are all there for anyone with a triple digit iq to put together and time will indeed reveal it all to be true. you can put that on rrr3's clit. the wild card is of course iran. if there's any possibility of a ww3, you can bet your last dollar it will revolve around iran. that's, without having to mention, why all of this is so dangerous for the entire world.

i don't support this. do you?

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[Patrick Chewing]

right - hamas does want all of israel gone - it's literally written in their charter. hamas is a terrorist organization and they fully demonstrated that fact on the 7th of october when they slaughtered hundreds (as well as possibly committed other heinous acts which have not been yet proven) of innocent women and children. that being said, oct 7th should have come as no surprise to anyone. when you occupy a people (to varying degrees over the decades) and trap and maintain strict to absolute control over them in what's been coined as "the largest open air prison in the world", yeah - these kind of... 'prison breaks' are probably going to end up happening at some point.

however, on the contrary, the current extremist government of israel wants all of palestine gone - it literally says so in the likud charter. so let's not act like either side is an honest broker for peace. let's also not act as if palestinians were ever genuinely offered their own state - it has always been on israel's terms.

now, this zionist conqest for a "greater israel" (which has now expanded in scope beyond what was originally "from the [jordan] river to the sea" - a term also used in the lukid charter) now includes the entirety of gaza and the west bank - the former of which is now nearly completely turned to rubble, its inhabitants killed in mass and forced out aka ethnically cleansed and will of which ultimately be taken over by jewish settlers; as well of course the west bank which has for some time now, even prior to the 7th of oct, is also being actively seized by jewish settlers, even moreso subsequently since the terrorist attack. this will all ultimately amount to the "greater israel" that netanyahu and the zionists have been on a conquest for for decades which we, america, fully support and facilitate. furthermore, at present, it seems to be the case that southern lebanon, parts of syria as well as just recently talks of parts of egypt (due to some silly biblical claim to land) being a part of israel's zionist expansion according to ministers ben gvir and smotrich. the only reason the entirety egypt and jordan aren't considered to be targets is because they're nothing but puppet governments that are subservient the us and are willing to do our bidding because they need us to survive.

so it couldn't be any more clear that is about a lot more than just destroying hamas and freeing the hostages. the netanyahu government is on a conquest to kill and drive out the palestinian population and in the process drive a stake into the heart of a two-state solution, create a "greater israel" and with our unwavering commitment and support - overthrow surrounding governments that support the palestinian cause and establish supremacy in the region. an agenda of which that has shown over the decades to be true in our interventions in libya, iraq, syria, somalia, sudan etc. the pieces of the puzzle are all there for anyone with a triple digit iq to put together and time will indeed reveal it all to be true. you can put that on rrr3's clit. the wild card is of course iran. if there's any possibility of a ww3, you can bet your last dollar it will revolve around iran. that's, without having to mention, why all of this is so dangerous for the entire world.

i don't support this. do you?

Literally no Palestinian is being attacked in the West Bank. So when you say that Israel is trying to drive Palestinians out, it’s hard to take that statement seriously or with any validity when Palestinians are not being affected within Israel or in the West Bank. It’s only Gaza that’s in the middle of a war right now because that’s where all the terrorist rats are.

And question for you Palestinian lovers, but how many peace deals has Palestine repeatedly rejected? I’ll give you a hint: It’s a lot. Israel continues to offer up deals with Palestine and time and time again they reject it.

So let’s be real. Let’s speak truths. What you guys really want to see is radical Muslims just lay waste to Israel. You want to see Jews dead and beheaded on the streets. You want to see Jews driven out of their ancestral homeland and I guess they just end up on a barge in the middle of the ocean cause no one wants them. Stop beating around the bush by supporting low-IQ backwards thinking cavemen that believe in subjugation of their women and being submissive to a violent ideology. Just speak truths and let your hatred of the Jews out. Just admit you love Mohammed and want to obtain a child bride by force and rape her repeatedly and breed sons so that you may one day strap bombs on them to kill Americans and Jews.

[Patrick Chewing]

the us should send over ar-15s to every palestinian kid and adult so they can defend their country against israel. why can't we pay for palestine's own iron dome? maybe some f16's too, a warship or two. leftover tanks. iraq is near palestine right? don't we have a bunch of leftover armor and tanks? ship them over, train them, send a seal team to kill netanyahu, let the palestinians defend themselves :applause:

You want to arm people that want to kill Americans?

[Media Moderator]

You want to arm people that want to kill Americans?

Don't forget Mexicans. The Palestinians murdered, raped and killed Mexicans on Oct 7.

[diamenz]

Literally no Palestinian is being attacked in the West Bank. So when you say that Israel is trying to drive Palestinians out, it’s hard to take that statement seriously or with any validity when Palestinians are not being affected within Israel or in the West Bank. It’s only Gaza that’s in the middle of a war right now because that’s where all the terrorist rats are.





that's just not true. one needs to look no further than mainstream outlets to find this information, which should be assumed to be credible considering the fact that the msm are quite literally stenographers of the us deep state as well as a mouthpiece for the israel lobby. that fact been demonstrated to a tee since the terrorist attacks on 7th of october. if msm is bringing this to the forefront, then there's no reason to doubt it. they're the furthest from being pro-palestine. just a few found through a simple google search:


Violence by extremist Israeli settlers increases in the occupied West Bank (https://www.npr.org/2024/11/13/nx-s1-5137001/violence-by-extremist-israeli-settlers-increases-in-the-occupied-west-bank)
Israel turbocharges West Bank settlement expansion (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/03/israel-turbocharges-west-bank-settlement-expansion-00166584)
The war is in Gaza, but Palestinians in the West Bank are targeted with violence too (https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/g-s1-27704/west-bank-palestinians-violence-israel-settlers)
What Settler Violence Is Doing to Israel (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2024/09/israel-settler-violence-west-bank/679731/)
Hardliners violently expel Palestinians to expand Israeli settlements in West Bank (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hardliners-violently-expel-palestinians-to-expand-israeli-settlements-in-west-bank)

i can only assume that you get the bulk of your news & information from places like ben shapiro and the israeli wire so things like this you either wouldn't hear about, would be heavily justified or simply put on the backburner.




how many peace deals has Palestine repeatedly rejected? I’ll give you a hint: It’s a lot. Israel continues to offer up deals with Palestine and time and time again they reject it.



israel, since it's inception, has never offered palestinians a truly sovereign and viable independent state. as i addressed in my previous post - it has always been on israel's terms, in which the term 'two state solution' has always been used by israel disingenuously. every 'deal' offered to the palestinians would have limited the sovereignty of their supposed "state" to the extent that it could not genuinely be regarded as truly being independent. for example, every single offer that israel has proposed would not have given palestine the ability to protect itself, whatsoever. nor would it have ended up having sovereignty over their resources, airpsace, borders or control over their international alliances without first having the permission of israel. considering those circumstances, no reasonable person would consider a palestine under those terms as being truly independent.

furthermore, again under israel's terms, the state would not have been viable as a singular entity. obviously the deals offered varied but as a whole, palestine would have been sectioned into two or three different districts or subdivisions between which civilian movement would have been greatly restricted. so obviously, practically speaking, it would be damn near impossible for this "state" to act alone as one entity. just imagine if there were to be no movement allowed between a capital city and the larger parts of that nation's population. basic services, collection of taxes, security, the basics of infrastructure would be impossible to maintain on any level.

so whether or not you or anyone else believes that palestine should or shouldn't exist as an independent state, saying that israel has gone out of their way to make offers to advocate for it is disingenuous.

with that aside, i assume you agree with or at the least acknowledge everything else i outlined in my post. or did you just want to quibble about that one small snapshot of the big picture?

[ShawkFactory]

Literally no Palestinian is being attacked in the West Bank. So when you say that Israel is trying to drive Palestinians out, it’s hard to take that statement seriously or with any validity when Palestinians are not being affected within Israel or in the West Bank. It’s only Gaza that’s in the middle of a war right now because that’s where all the terrorist rats are.

And question for you Palestinian lovers, but how many peace deals has Palestine repeatedly rejected? I’ll give you a hint: It’s a lot. Israel continues to offer up deals with Palestine and time and time again they reject it.

So let’s be real. Let’s speak truths. What you guys really want to see is radical Muslims just lay waste to Israel. You want to see Jews dead and beheaded on the streets. You want to see Jews driven out of their ancestral homeland and I guess they just end up on a barge in the middle of the ocean cause no one wants them. Stop beating around the bush by supporting low-IQ backwards thinking cavemen that believe in subjugation of their women and being submissive to a violent ideology. Just speak truths and let your hatred of the Jews out. Just admit you love Mohammed and want to obtain a child bride by force and rape her repeatedly and breed sons so that you may one day strap bombs on them to kill Americans and Jews.

Wtf :lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

You want to arm people that want to kill Americans?

Reagan sold guns to the Iranians.

[ArbitraryWater]

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"3 sets of being a victim"

"the gym was promised to him 2000 years ago"

:roll:


:oldlol:

[Media Moderator]

Reagan sold guns to the Iranians.

Obama' gave guns to the Mexican cartels INSIDE the US and let them take it into Mexico :facepalm

[highwhey]

Obama' gave guns to the Mexican cartels INSIDE the US and let them take it into Mexico :facepalm

what a fcking BOSS. Obama was great.

[diamenz]

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"3 sets of being a victim"

"the gym was promised to him 2000 years ago"

:roll:

it's a god damn shame how the once oppressed have become the oppressors.

[diamenz]

Imagine some fat **** thinking he's special, coming over from NY to take your house. If there were no laws and I saw that fat **** walking here in NY, I would beat him to an inch of his life even if it wasn't my house that he took, because he's no different from a Venezuelan arm moto robber. Same person, different body. No different from a squatter. We're talking about disgusting people.


https://youtu.be/cINNBGog2iQ


https://youtu.be/VzpFS9T_xR8

another one that's able to see things for what they are. :cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

Wtf :lol

I mean, I have no other explanation for why they think the way they do.

[Patrick Chewing]

Obama' gave guns to the Mexican cartels INSIDE the US and let them take it into Mexico :facepalm

How is Obama literally not in jail for that? An American died because of that operation. Does Obama get a free pass because he’s Black?

[ShawkFactory]

I mean, I have no other explanation for why they think the way they do.

Even though several people have clearly and spelled it out for you?

[Patrick Chewing]

Even though several people have clearly and spelled it out for you?

The way they write paragraphs and paragraphs trying to explain why Israel is bad and then in the middle of those paragraphs somewhere they sneak in just a quick sentence denigrating radical Islam tells me all I need to know.

[ShawkFactory]

The way they write paragraphs and paragraphs trying to explain why Israel is bad and then in the middle of those paragraphs somewhere they sneak in just a quick sentence denigrating radical Islam tells me all I need to know.

Well it’s a fairly complex situation that takes more time/words to describe to you than just “Israel bad”. You’re not seeming to understand it the other way either so typing more is a different approach.

[j3lademaster]

Imagine some fat **** thinking he's special, coming over from NY to take your house. If there were no laws and I saw that fat **** walking here in NY, I would beat him to an inch of his life even if it wasn't my house that he took, because he's no different from a Venezuelan arm moto robber. Same person, different body. No different from a squatter. We're talking about disgusting people.


https://youtu.be/cINNBGog2iQ


https://youtu.be/VzpFS9T_xR8

That's heartbreaking. I can't even imagine going through anything like that , let alone at that age.

[Patrick Chewing]

Well it’s a fairly complex situation that takes more time/words to describe to you than just “Israel bad”. You’re not seeming to understand it the other way either so typing more is a different approach.

A fairly complex situation where literally everyone on this board is making Israel out to be the enemy.


And a group of people that want to wipe Israel off the map and kill Americans as well the victim.


Just weird.

[RRR3]

A fairly complex situation where literally everyone on this board is making Israel out to be the enemy.


And a group of people that want to wipe Israel off the map and kill Americans as well the victim.


Just weird.
You literally just support Israel because you want to see Muslims die. Stop lying and be honest for once, fats. And the fact that you accuse anyone criticizing Israel of antisemitism is crazy when you’ve been antisemitic yourself a lot. I’m not saying some Israel critics aren’t antisemitic because plenty are, including on this board like Highwhey and arby, but you also accused me a Jew of being antisemitic :oldlol:

You don’t give a shit about Jews you just love Netanyahu because he agrees with you politically.

[ShawkFactory]

A fairly complex situation where literally everyone on this board is making Israel out to be the enemy.


And a group of people that want to wipe Israel off the map and kill Americans as well the victim.


Just weird.

Pointing out the faults and potential dangers of an administration does not mean everyone loves Terrorists and hates Jews. Those are just terms you've created because it's what is apparently digestible for you.

Characters like you tend to do that. Criticize any aspect of the American system, big or small? Must hate America. Oppose profit-hungry corporations messing with our healthcare system? Must be anti-capitalist. It doesn't matter how thoughtful or knowledgeable someone can be about the particular issue. Those are the terms.

[ArbitraryWater]

it's a god damn shame how the once oppressed have become the oppressors.


https://i.gyazo.com/0e438fb0f46a82b41c225f71b893990e.png

[diamenz]

The way they write paragraphs and paragraphs trying to explain why Israel is bad and then in the middle of those paragraphs somewhere they sneak in just a quick sentence denigrating radical Islam tells me all I need to know.

i can only assume that this passive-aggressive jab is aimed at me. you can address me directly, you know. or even better, you could address my post regarding the subject at hand. btw of which you had brought up two points to me - you stated that there was no palestinians being attacked or driven out of their homes in the west bank - i showed factual evidence stating the opposite. you also brought up peace deals offered on the behalf of israel and i provided context behind those deals. after that i never heard back from you. you're just back to conflating me as well as everyone else here into one group - "everybody hates israel", " you all support terrorists " and "everyone is out to get patrick chewing". *uck, you're worse than a libtard.

and in the case that you didn't notice or perhaps willingly and conveniently glossed over, i prefaced my post with this statement:


right - hamas does want all of israel gone - it's literally written in their charter. hamas is a terrorist organization and they fully demonstrated that fact on the 7th of october when they slaughtered hundreds (as well as possibly committed other heinous acts which have not been yet proven) of innocent women and children.

in addition to that, i've stated here countless times - COUNTLESS times that i not only support israel's right to exist but also israel's right to defend itself. in other words, i've gone out of my way to make clear that i'm willing to have an honest, open-minded conversation but yet and still you just paint me as some hamas apologist or anti-semite and conflate and throw me into some other radical groupset.

shit, i even started an thread on this year's 7th of oct saying rip to all of those lost on that day. you showed no interest.

you're not willing to hold the israeli government accountable for their actions, ever. in every instance you hide behind " but hamas" "but human shields" among other tired, generalized talking points as an answer to anything and everything. then when i hit you with an argument, as i did just a day or two ago, usually a thorough or at least somewhat thorough one, you throw your blankie over your head and skedaddle. only to comment on the subject some time in the near future with the same tired generalized talking points and anti-semitic rants.

you're the odd one out on this subject - maybe it's time for some self-reflection.

[Patrick Chewing]

you're the odd one out on this subject - maybe it's time for some self-reflection.


I’m no blind follower that’s for sure.

[Patrick Chewing]

Pointing out the faults and potential dangers of an administration does not mean everyone loves Terrorists and hates Jews. Those are just terms you've created because it's what is apparently digestible for you.

Characters like you tend to do that. Criticize any aspect of the American system, big or small? Must hate America. Oppose profit-hungry corporations messing with our healthcare system? Must be anti-capitalist. It doesn't matter how thoughtful or knowledgeable someone can be about the particular issue. Those are the terms.

You’re casually forgetting that this thread is littered with several members who actually do hate Jews and actually do hate Capitalism. So I’m not wrong in saying what I’m saying. If you’re somewhere in the middle, then what I say shouldn’t affect any of you. But I’m the only one defending Israel here and I’m quite fine with that.

[ShawkFactory]

You’re casually forgetting that this thread is littered with several members who actually do hate Jews and actually do hate Capitalism. So I’m not wrong in saying what I’m saying. If you’re somewhere in the middle, then what I say shouldn’t affect any of you. But I’m the only one defending Israel here and I’m quite fine with that.

It’s not about what side you’re on, but the blatant lack of information and context you have on the subject. And with that comes a natural inability and unwillingness to have an actual discussion.

[ArbitraryWater]

I’m no blind follower that’s for sure.


You happen to side with all major networks and fake news organizations and fairweather celebs and the Clintons and Obama etc etc, and the hashtag people.





https://i.gyazo.com/dbd1f24937252113574e8f61677ffb73.png


You are definitely on the good side.


Brave.

[diamenz]

I’m the only one defending Israel here and I’m quite fine with that.

then by all means, defend israel:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519773-Israel-in-a-nutshell&p=14963897&viewfull=1#post14963897

[diamenz]

That's heartbreaking. I can't even imagine going through anything like that , let alone at that age.

it's terrible.

https://i.ibb.co/QQ46Yp7/Clipboard01.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

It’s not about what side you’re on, but the blatant lack of information and context you have on the subject. And with that comes a natural inability and unwillingness to have an actual discussion.

What information do you think I’m lacking? Let’s hear this. This should be rich.

[Patrick Chewing]

You happen to side with all major networks and fake news organizations and fairweather celebs and the Clintons and Obama etc etc, and the hashtag people.





https://i.gyazo.com/dbd1f24937252113574e8f61677ffb73.png


You are definitely on the good side.


Brave.

I side with Israel because the opposition are bloodthirsty savages that act and behave as if they still lived in the Stone Age. I will back any group of people with modern ideals and beliefs and who do not indoctrinate their children from a young age to hate a group of people and kill them.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I’m no blind follower that’s for sure.

You watched the Army/Navy game just to see Trump.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Guys, how did we let this tribe of a people control everything? They don't even like each other.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/6TKu0E5SMQAAAAAd/makes-me-sick-the-wire.gif

[highwhey]

https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/3840x2160/7929695-Pat-Buchanan-Quote-Capitol-Hill-is-Israeli-occupied-territory.jpg

[ShawkFactory]

What information do you think I’m lacking? Let’s hear this. This should be rich.

You want me to post a whole thing (fvcking paragraphs am I right?) to rehash things you've already either not grasped or have paid absolutely no mind to? No thanks :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

You want me to post a whole thing (fvcking paragraphs am I right?) to rehash things you've already either not grasped or have paid absolutely no mind to? No thanks :lol

Typical lol.

I want you to explain to me why I’m wrong in defending Israel. You’re all making the claim I don’t have information or whatever, so let’s hear it.

[ShawkFactory]

Typical lol.

I want you to explain to me why I’m wrong in defending Israel. You’re all making the claim I don’t have information or whatever, so let’s hear it.

Another thing you have wrong, and another time I have to repeat myself. No one (or almost no one) is saying that defending Israel is the wrong side to take. Most are saying that it's wrong to be so hell-bent on taking a side without care that there are things to consider across the board. Sometimes you don't have to take a side...you can just read the situation correctly.

You are so caught up in the political back-and-forth that you're unwilling to listen to the context from people more knowledgeable than you on the subject. Heels have been dug in the sand and it's frustrating.

If this is how you actually are, you are absolutely part of the problem that you wish this country didn't have.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I’m no blind follower that’s for sure.

Literally will never disagree with Trump.

[Lebron23]

Viva Israel

[ArbitraryWater]

Viva Israel


https://i.gyazo.com/f2586f0430fb39f6063c3b6847915e03.png




lebron23 continues to be a meme in everything he does

[Patrick Chewing]

Viva Israel

Smart kid

[imdaman99]

Viva Israel

:biggums:

I've just unfollowed and unsubscribed to your posts.

[west_tip]

I would be more sympathetic to the Palestinian cause if Muslim fanatics hadn't spent the last 20 years killing innocent white people in Europe.

The fact is whilst Zionists treat Palestinians like second class citizens radical Muslims think nothing of killing innocent white people in the name of their religion.

How else are Israel supposed to deal with religious fanatics who throughout the ENTIRE world have proven they won't get along with people of other religions and races?

Israel really has no choice. If you treat Muslims with respect give them sanctuary and refuge they will turn around and bomb you or kill your kids. See France, Germany, Belgium, Spain etc.

Then to top it all off they will gaslight you with terms like Islamophibia as if you are the problem.