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Kblaze8855
12-20-2024, 10:34 PM
https://i.ibb.co/phv70Lm/IMG-0810.gif




Not some against the clock only situation. They do that just…because that’s how they are allowed(maybe encouraged) to play.



We don’t need another “So many threes!” discussion. Theres nothing left to say.


They’re gonna shoot threes. Whatever. I just wanna know what happened to coaching to have so many of them apparently OK with the lackluster effort to get a good shot. I don’t care where it’s from. 2 or 3. Whatever.

Has almost everyone abandoned traditional plays in favor of a general philosophy of driving and kicking for threes and if you can’t…stepback into your own?

I feel like this is what older players are talking about when they say these guys don’t know how to play basketball anymore. That feels unfair to me because even veterans who would’ve learned the game 20 years ago play that way. Coaches don’t seem to be running out there and snatching them off the court like they would have back in the day.

That’s a desired style of play with an undesired outcome, isn’t it?

That’s what these coaches consider acceptable and the players are responding to that. Right? Or is that play style something players are so into the coaches just have to acquiesce?

Who are you giving the most credit/blame for sequences like that not being unusual? Players or coaching?

ILLsmak
12-20-2024, 10:43 PM
Video games.

-Smak

Kblaze8855
12-20-2024, 10:47 PM
Just to inject some objectivity…


Do young fans look at sequences like this with the same disgust older fans look at the one I posted first?



https://i.ibb.co/42jSQkv/IMG-0811.gif






is that just boring ball stopping inefficient nonsense to them as well?

Im willing to entertain it.

RRR3
12-20-2024, 11:04 PM
Just to inject some objectivity…


Do young fans look at sequences like this with the same disgust older fans look at the one I posted first?



https://i.ibb.co/42jSQkv/IMG-0811.gif






is that just boring ball stopping inefficient nonsense to them as well?

Im willing to entertain it.
Is that Mark Jackson? I mean yeah that was bad offense if it's him, although he passed it that time, but the lack of movement is jarring compared to today. Good offense if it's Barkley tho.

Xiao Yao You
12-20-2024, 11:22 PM
So skilled!

90sgoat
12-21-2024, 11:15 AM
He carried and palmed about 10 times in that clip.

That is really the clutch of it. The NBA changed its dribbling rules to counter the growing popularity of And-1 and it has made the game into the worst parts of And-1, the showboating dribbling on the spot, without actually being efficient.

AI was seen as a selfish player, but he was not showboating or dancing around for half the gameclock, he used quick crossovers and fakes, had to or he wouldn't get open.

When you're not allowed to carry and palm, you make quick moves before your defender is in position, that makes the game exciting and dynamic.

tontoz
12-21-2024, 11:24 AM
Recently I've seen the 'last second shot down 1 let's jack a 3' routine several times. I don't get it

Reggie43
12-22-2024, 07:30 PM
They hated that Jackson postup so bad even back then that they made a rule change to stop it.

Reggie43
12-22-2024, 09:13 PM
Jeff Van Gundy wanted answers. Like how his guards should defend Mark Jackson when the Pacer guard bullies his way close to the basket, backing in without being called for an offensive foul.

So Van Gundy called NBA senior VP of basketball operations Rod Thorn Wednesday.

“I just wanted to know what he thought our point guards had to do different,” Van Gundy said yesterday morning after the Knicks’ shoot-around at Purchase College before they faced the Pacers in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference Finals last night at the Garden.

“I just think they have the right to guard him. I don’t think you have to give ground. It’s not the rule.”



“It’s bad basketball,” Van Gundy said of the back-in move. “So why would you reward it with foul calls? They should have a three-dribble limit once you get below the free-throw line. You have a post move or you don’t have a post move.”

http://https://nypost.com/1999/06/06/how-bout-a-whistle-stop-jax-post-up-move-has-knicks-baffled/ (https://nypost.com/1999/06/06/how-bout-a-whistle-stop-jax-post-up-move-has-knicks-baffled/)