Is Wemby already top 5?

[Im Still Ballin]

Averaging 24.7 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 3.9 apg, 1.1 spg, 3.8 bpg on 60.6% TS (106 TS+). Fourth in BPM: +7.5 BPM (4.5 off; 3.0 def).

His last 13 games: 29.6 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 5.0 apg, 0.9 spg, 3.6 bpg on 64.2% TS.

He's currently 3rd in seasonal EPM: https://dunksandthrees.com/stats/player

And 10th in predictive EPM: https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

[ImKobe]

He's definitely in the mix. I'd say he's in the same tier as KAT & AD right now so within that 4-10 range when looking at his metrics.

[Mask the Embiid]

Rookie wemby was already = to AD. This wemby is better than AD. so wherever you have AD wemby should at minimum be one spot higher than him. So if you have AD top 10 u have wemby top 10. if you have ad top 5 you have wemby top 5.


If you dont have him next to ad in the rankings you dont watch the sport....its that simple. its nothing else to talk about. or you at least dont watch him



Team USA is doomed in 2028 or 2032. France will win a gold before wemby retires smh

[ImKobe]

Rookie wemby was already = to AD. This wemby is better than AD. so wherever you have AD wemby should at minimum be one spot higher than him. So if you have AD top 10 u have wemby top 10. if you have ad top 5 you have wemby top 5.


If you dont have him next to ad in the rankings you dont watch the sport....its that simple. its nothing else to talk about. or you at least dont watch him



Team USA is doomed in 2028 or 2032. France will win a gold before wemby retires smh

I watch both and AD is far more consistent. Spurs rely on Wemby more as there's no 2nd star, but he has so many bad possessions where he either shoots an ill-advised 3 or just turns it over. AD's scoring & rebounding have been a level above Wemby's thus far.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rookie wemby was already = to AD. This wemby is better than AD. so wherever you have AD wemby should at minimum be one spot higher than him. So if you have AD top 10 u have wemby top 10. if you have ad top 5 you have wemby top 5.


If you dont have him next to ad in the rankings you dont watch the sport....its that simple. its nothing else to talk about. or you at least dont watch him



Team USA is doomed in 2028 or 2032. France will win a gold before wemby retires smh

Usa wll still be the favorite

[Full Court]

Wemby is not even close to AD right now. AD is a top 5 player in the league easily. Wemby is probably hovering around top 15.

[RRR3]

Yeah probably. Giannis Jokic and SGA are the only guys I’d for sure take over him.

[iamgine]

He's around that level. Top 4-7 guy.

[StrongLurk]

Not yet, but he could be by the end of the season. I expect him to take the Lebron-route where he is arguably a superstar by the end of his second season, and definitely a top 10 player by his third year (assuming he is healthy).

[ShawkFactory]

Wemby is not even close to AD right now. AD is a top 5 player in the league easily. Wemby is probably hovering around top 15.

Oh boy :lol

[Full Court]

Oh boy :lol

He's got the potential to be top 5 for sure. But there's no good argument for him being there yet. His low court IQ also drags him down.

Giannis, SGA, Jokic, Luka, Durant, and AD are clearly better to the point it's not even a contest. That's six right there. There are others that are a lot closer, but Wemby is not solidly in the top ten.

You disagree?

[ShawkFactory]

He's got the potential to be top 5 for sure. But there's no good argument for him being there yet. His low court IQ also drags him down.

Giannis, SGA, Jokic, Luka, Durant, and AD are clearly better to the point it's not even a contest. That's six right there. There are others that are a lot closer, but Wemby is not solidly in the top ten.

You disagree?

After the top 4 there’s no “not even close” with any of the others. Healthy Embiid perhaps.

[Full Court]

After the top 4 there’s no “not even close” with any of the others. Healthy Embiid perhaps.

I didn't even list Embiid because he hasn't played many games this year. But yeah, healthy Embiid is also a tier above Wemby.

[tontoz]

Fwiw Wemby is currently 8th on the MVP ladder.

[Meticode]

6-10, he can jump into the Top 5, but he has to bring his efficiency up. below 49% overall from the field for someone 7'3" is a joke.

[RRR3]

6-10, he can jump into the Top 5, but he has to bring his efficiency up. below 49% overall from the field for someone 7'3" is a joke.
:facepalm

Half his shots are 3s, looking at raw FG% for a guy who plays like that makes zero sense. His efficiency is great, 60.6 TS%, well above league average.

[Meticode]

:facepalm

Half his shots are 3s, looking at raw FG% for a guy who plays like that makes zero sense. His efficiency is great, 60.6 TS%, well above league average.

I could care less about TS%. It's an arbitrary stat in many cases that doesn't factor in how many of a specific shot he's taking. The only reason his TS% is that high is because he's a 87% free throw shooter barely taking four free throws a game. 48% from the field overall and 35% from three is average overall. Especially for his height. You got smaller players than him with better field goal percentages and three point percentages than that. He's inefficient at 60% for his size right now. And it's that high because of him being able to hit 4 freethrows out of 4.5 attempts a game.

And 60% isn't even that good in today's NBA. He's not even in the Top 100 in TS%. Players like Valančiūnas, Markkanen, Sexton, Barnes, Garland, Gordon, Mobley and countless other's have better TS%.

I have no hate for Wemby. I love watching him play outside of jacking up more threes per game than Curry, but he's not Top 5 right now. 6-10 for me and the biggest reason for 6-10 is because of his defense. If he was average on defense and what he is right now on offense he'd be in lower.

[RRR3]

Because most of the guys who lead in TS% are players like Rudy Gobert who just dunk. For primary scoring options, his efficiency is excellent. 60.3% on 2 pointers is not average for a guy whose a first option. His 3pt shooting was brought down by an awful start. He's been hitting them at a good clip for a while now. He's scoring more efficiently than Luka, no one is complaining about Luka's efficiency. TS% is not arbitrary, it's a measure of efficiency and it shows Wemby is scoring efficiently. Because he is. You not liking how he plays is irrelevant.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Very soon.

[Meticode]

Because most of the guys who lead in TS% are players like Rudy Gobert who just dunk. For primary scoring options, his efficiency is excellent. 60.3% on 2 pointers is not average for a guy whose a first option. His 3pt shooting was brought down by an awful start. He's been hitting them at a good clip for a while now. He's scoring more efficiently than Luka, no one is complaining about Luka's efficiency. TS% is not arbitrary, it's a measure of efficiency and it shows Wemby is scoring efficiently. Because he is. You not liking how he plays is irrelevant.

You just argued against your own point. You disregard TS% with putting Gobert's name up there, then in the same breathe you boast about it with Wemby. Look at the Top 100 players that led the league in TS%, there's a bunch of guards in there and wing players. Most definitely are not like Gobert because players like Gobert are a few and far between in today's NBA. Everyone and there mom is shooting threes now.

He's not ahead of Jokic, SGA, Tatum, Giannis, Doncic as a Top 5 player right now. His recent MVP ranking is what he is. 6-10. Which he was 9 in the polling. He has to keep improving his efficiency outside of his freethrow shooting to crack the Top 5. Which I feel he can do, but we need a bigger sample than 1/3 of a season which a large part of that 1/3 he struggled early on.

[Carbine]

I don't think you grasp the point Meticode.

Filter the top 100 by whos scoring 24 or more points per game. He is in fact fairly efficient given the volume he is scoring at.

The scary thing is he should be around 65+ by his peak. Possibly approaching 70 if his FT shooting stays the same.

[Meticode]

I don't think you grasp the point Meticode.

Filter the top 100 by whos scoring 24 or more points per game. He is in fact fairly efficient given the volume he is scoring at.

I don't think you have an understanding of what I'm saying. He's still inefficient for his size even when you compared it and restrict it to 24PPG.

If you're going to restrict to to 24 PPG or higher he still isn't even Top 5 in that. Jokic, Durant, Powell, Towns, Brunson, SGA, Herro, Lillard, Tatum. All better efficiently. If you decrease scoring down to 22PPG there's even more players more efficient than him right now.

Nevertheless, he's not Top 5 right now to me. If he's Top 5 for other people, that's fine. I'm just backing up the reason he's not for me right now.

[Im Still Ballin]

One of Wemby's biggest problems is going to be turnovers on offense. Not just his individual turnovers but his team's overall turnover rate when he's on the court. His regularized four-factor offensive turnover percentage (OTOV%) is -1.6% currently.

Big men tend to generate more team-wide turnovers when they're on the court. It's the tradeoff for elevating team eFG% and rebounding.

Victor's unique playstyle may or may not result in a lot of team turnovers in the long run. Karl-Anthony Towns has a -0.2% OTOV for his career which is substantial. He's been able to play from the perimeter like a wing and it hasn't resulted in excessive team turnovers.

[90sgoat]

Wemby is a fun player to watch and is smart, so he'll get a lot better if he doesn't get injured.

Still not as impactful as his stats suggest, but I'm on Team Wemby.

[Carbine]

He has helped a bottom 5 roster to around .500

I'd say that's quite an impact.

[Carbine]

I don't think you have an understanding of what I'm saying. He's still inefficient for his size even when you compared it and restrict it to 24PPG.

If you're going to restrict to to 24 PPG or higher he still isn't even Top 5 in that. Jokic, Durant, Powell, Towns, Brunson, SGA, Herro, Lillard, Tatum. All better efficiently. If you decrease scoring down to 22PPG there's even more players more efficient than him right now.

Nevertheless, he's not Top 5 right now to me. If he's Top 5 for other people, that's fine. I'm just backing up the reason he's not for me right now.

You're the one that said Wemby is inefficient at 60 percent.

It's factually wrong. Him not being top 5 for scorers doing 24 or higher means absolutely nothing because nobody said he was elite. We are just saying he is not inefficient.

I don't like the way he plays offense either with all the threes and perimeter oriented play but you can't knock the efficiency he's at doing 24ppg.

You could knock it last year. Not this year