British Surgeon testifies how IDF would shoot children/civilians after bombing them

[highwhey]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7893vpy2gqo




https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=4PEHNXR8Uvk

Unreal.

fvck israel.

[MrFonzworth]

Savages.

[highwhey]

bump

[west_tip]

www.timesofisrael.com/83-year-old-woman-killed-in-herzliya terror-stabbing-attacker-is-ex-shin-bet-informant/amp/

It's ****ed up that Israel targets kids (I've read many reports of Palestinian kids being found with single bullet wounds from snipers) but as you can see from this the Palestinians are just as evil. Stabbing to death an 83 year old.

That's the problem here, Zionists are in the wrong but so are the radical Muslims.

When Muslims begin to demonstrate some tolerance of other people they may get more of the benefit of the doubt but we all know that they are very intolerant and are willing to kill for their religion. They don't just kill Jews in the Middle East they kill non Muslim people worldwide.

Even a simple cricket match can turn into a bloodbath with these people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_attack_on_the_Sri_Lanka_national_cricket_team

[Akeem34TheDream]

www.timesofisrael.com/83-year-old-woman-killed-in-herzliya terror-stabbing-attacker-is-ex-shin-bet-informant/amp/

It's ****ed up that Israel targets kids (I've read many reports of Palestinian kids being found with single bullet wounds from snipers) but as you can see from this the Palestinians are just as evil. Stabbing to death an 83 year old.

That's the problem here, Zionists are in the wrong but so are the radical Muslims.

When Muslims begin to demonstrate some tolerance of other people they may get more of the benefit of the doubt but we all know that they are very intolerant and are willing to kill for their religion. They don't just kill Jews in the Middle East they kill non Muslim people worldwide.

Even a simple cricket match can turn into a bloodbath with these people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_attack_on_the_Sri_Lanka_national_cricket_team

Here is the situation. Ofc both sides are radicalized. They have been at war for almost a century now. Its expected. What's wrong is one of the sides OWN the congress, white house, media and all the critical institutions of United States of America, the most powerful country in the world. They also have immense lobby influence in most of the white majority countries. So that side gets to do whatever they want to do without any significant backlash. People all around the world are starting to see what is really going on though. Especially young people. Israel's reputation has sunk recently it's not easy to just blame Hamas or antisemitism.

[diamenz]

That's the problem here, Zionists are in the wrong but so are the radical Muslims.



this is somewhat of a fair argument to make. though i don't think it takes into consideration the nearly century-long occupation that israel has [the word i'm looking for here escapes me for some reason] over these people, our participation in overthrowing pro-palestinian governments in the region, as well as other reasons that have contributed to said radicalization. nor does it justify the extent to which the israeli government has overstepped their boundaries over the past year and the ongoing land-grab. not to mention how much israel has in turn isolated themselves from the rest of the world and turned themselves into a pariah of a country.

...and that's what it's all about - the power dynamic involved here that Akeem touched upon. not only in regard to the human aspect and israel's failed goals but our involvement as well as the extreme risk to international security.

[highwhey]

That's the problem here, Zionists are in the wrong but so are the radical Muslims.


no. the issue is the zionist began this conflict long ago and force the situation while controlling the US and western media to make themselves seem as victims defending themselves despite thousands of independent accounts stating the contrary.

[Patrick Chewing]

no. the issue is the zionist began this conflict long ago and force the situation while controlling the US and western media to make themselves seem as victims defending themselves despite thousands of independent accounts stating the contrary.

No, the issue is you’re an anti-Semite.

[ArbitraryWater]

Theyre bred this way.


look at these kids:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DD-bpWdy5em/

[ArbitraryWater]

No, the issue is you’re an anti-Semite.


Did you notice throwing out buzz words is not actually an argument?

[highwhey]

No, the issue is you’re an anti-Semite.

coincidentally, this has become the gold standard response for all genocide defenders as of recent

[Patrick Chewing]

Did you notice throwing out buzz words is not actually an argument?

What argument? It’s a statement of fact what I said. You’re an anti-Semite too so let’s stop the charade.

[highwhey]

Did you notice throwing out buzz words is not actually an argument?

its funny you say that bc earlier today i was arguing with someone on reddit that genocide defenders don't even bother defending israel anymore, they just claim you're antisemitic if you question their actions. sure enough here comes the obese guy from new york, he won't even defend lol. he just takes it in as a cost of doing war. which tells you how much of a piece of sh1t he is.

[west_tip]

What exactly were Hamas expecting Benjamin Netanyahu to do?

Benjamin Netanyahu, a far right Israeli politician who had been under the microscope for quite a few years due to corruption charges......

Israel was in the mud before Oct 7th 2023.... They held multiple elections over the prior years because they couldnt forn a government that lasted longer than 5 minutes.

Honestly, hamas got the ball rolling on this latest installment of Zionist v Islamic fundamentalist insanity and things have transpired almost exactly as you might have predicted.

[west_tip]

Here is the situation. Ofc both sides are radicalized. They have been at war for almost a century now. Its expected. What's wrong is one of the sides OWN the congress, white house, media and all the critical institutions of United States of America, the most powerful country in the world. They also have immense lobby influence in most of the white majority countries. So that side gets to do whatever they want to do without any significant backlash. People all around the world are starting to see what is really going on though. Especially young people. Israel's reputation has sunk recently it's not easy to just blame Hamas or antisemitism.

The advantage Zionists have in the corridors of power in Washington DC are the same advantages they had in London during the British mandatory government. Rothschild had of course got the British government to agree in principle to supporting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in 1917 when Palestine was in the Ottoman empire.

One thing the Zionists were better at (and always have been) is politics. They had and have an unbelievable knack of knowing where power lays, who to influence l, who to fund etc. You see this with AIPAC today where they will run ads against congressional candidates who are not fervently pro Israel.

Israels treatment of Palestinians is unquestionably bad, if not illegal. Pre 2023 and of course since. If this situation had occurred in 1999 I would certainly have had more sympathy for Palestinians, I would borderline have been in complete support of their cause.

The problem is for the past 23 years (literally half of my life) I've seen radical Muslims commit attack after attack, not against military targets but against random people going about their business. Completely innocent people. I even met Anthony Sadler who was one of three Americans to foil that terrorist attack on a train in 2015.

So it was that on Oct 7th that yet more innocent people were killed by radicals.

At a certain point you have to ask, how can you deal with people who seem to attach no value to innocent lives except by fighting fire with fire?

I don't condone the killing of Palestinian kids, I think it's reprehensible and I think the Israeli response in general to this situation has been disproprionate and heavy handed but I also understand that radicals really give you no other choice. Compromise and compassion get you nowhere.

[highwhey]

The advantage Zionists have in the corridors of power in Washington DC are the same advantages they had in London during the British mandatory government. Rothschild had of course got the British government to agree in principle to supporting the establishment of a Jewish homeland in 1917 when Palestine was in the Ottoman empire.

One thing the Zionists were better at (and always have been) is politics. They had and have an unbelievable knack of knowing where power lays, who to influence l, who to fund etc. You see this with AIPAC today where they will run ads against congressional candidates who are not fervently pro Israel.

Israels treatment of Palestinians is unquestionably bad, if not illegal. Pre 2023 and of course since. If this situation had occurred in 1999 I would certainly have had more sympathy for Palestinians, I would borderline have been in complete support of their cause.

The problem is for the past 23 years (literally half of my life) I've seen radical Muslims commit attack after attack, not against military targets but against random people going about their business. Completely innocent people. I even met Anthony Sadler who was one of three Americans to foil that terrorist attack on a train in 2015.

So it was that on Oct 7th that yet more innocent people were killed by radicals.

At a certain point you have to ask, how can you deal with people who seem to attach no value to innocent lives except by fighting fire with fire?

I don't condone the killing of Palestinian kids, I think it's reprehensible and I think the Israeli response in general to this situation has been disproprionate and heavy handed but I also understand that radicals really give you no other choice. Compromise and compassion get you nowhere.

there's a lot of ignorance in this to unpack. i'd rather play video games however. go educate yourself and stop reading zionist sources only. this conflict dates back decades and has been the farthest thing from being legal or the only option left with.

you sound like a zionist legacy media agent.

[Patrick Chewing]

there's a lot of ignorance in this to unpack. i'd rather play video games however. go educate yourself and stop reading zionist sources only. this conflict dates back decades and has been the farthest thing from being legal or the only option left with.

you sound like a zionist legacy media agent.

Go play your little games, Pedro.

[highwhey]

Go play your little games, Pedro.

forgot your life is already a meme because you weigh 400 pounds

[Patrick Chewing]

Yawn. Go on now, Mexican. Go play Taco Truck Simulator.

[highwhey]

Yawn. Go on now, Mexican. Go play Taco Truck Simulator.

:roll:

that was actually hilarious, for an obese guy. maybe you play gastric bypass and triple hart valve surgery simulator.

[Patrick Chewing]

maybe you play gastric bypass and triple hart valve surgery simulator.

Cringe

[diamenz]

What exactly were Hamas expecting Benjamin Netanyahu to do?



what was israel expecting hamas to do? israel should have known that if you keep 2.3 million people in a cage that... yeah - they're going to try and break out. israel should have known that when they occupied palestinian land, drove hundreds of thousands of them out - never to return; that those people would have children and then they would have children so forth and and so on... that that emnity and bitterness and a desire for revenge would exist - forever. so there's all kinds of concomitant "should-have-knowns" in this story.

the pertinent question is, do you (not you in particular) support israel in what is going on now to this day? because it should be obvious to anyone with a basic foundation of knowledge on this conflict and a willing ability to weed through the wartime propoganda that this is absolutely no longer about eliminating hamas and rescuing the hostages and now has everything to do with ethnically cleansing the palestinian people from what remains of their land and in the process killing any possibility of a two-state solution once and for all as well as annexing gaza, the remainder of the west bank and east jerusalem, and just recently parts of lebanon and syria and whatever is left of the golan heights. not to mention the descades-long overthrowing of pro-palestinian governments in the region (with our assistance) and ultimately establishing jewish supremacy in the region; ultimately leading to war with iran (with our involvement) that would in turn up the heat ten-fold in regard to the threat of a global nuclear conflict. god *uck it all.

here i am rambling again but this is what it is. now respectfully, and correct me if i'm wrong, it sounds to me like you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth attempting to come off as someone taking a balanced approach to this while at the same time justifying israel's actions (israel's actions to this day).


Benjamin Netanyahu, a far right Israeli politician who had been under the microscope for quite a few years due to corruption charges......

Israel was in the mud before Oct 7th 2023.... They held multiple elections over the prior years because they couldnt forn a government that lasted longer than 5 minutes.

all the more reason for netanyahu to have let this happen in the first place after multiple warnings of an attack being planned by hamas days in advance and even going out of his way to delay the idf's response.

[highwhey]

Cringe

thats exactly what a 400lb man would say

[diamenz]

The problem is for the past 23 years (literally half of my life) I've seen radical Muslims commit attack after attack, not against military targets but against random people going about their business. Completely innocent people.

and just to be clear - that's terrorism, full stop. if hamas had killed only israeli guards on oct 7th, you could argue that they were freedom fighters. but like i just said - when you're ruthlessly killing children and grandmothers it's terrorism and should be condemned to the fullest extent, no matter what 'side' you're on.

[highwhey]

What exactly were Hamas expecting Benjamin Netanyahu to do?

Benjamin Netanyahu, a far right Israeli politician who had been under the microscope for quite a few years due to corruption charges......

Israel was in the mud before Oct 7th 2023.... They held multiple elections over the prior years because they couldnt forn a government that lasted longer than 5 minutes.

Honestly, hamas got the ball rolling on this latest installment of Zionist v Islamic fundamentalist insanity and things have transpired almost exactly as you might have predicted.

weird to log into an alt to pretend to be unbiased but come off as super biased. very weird way top get your rocks off.

[west_tip]

weird to log into an alt to pretend to be unbiased but come off as super biased. very weird way top get your rocks off.


It's not bias it's common sense.

Netanyahu is not a dove. He's always been a conservative Zionist and he has been in public life in Israel for decades. Israels response to Hamas attacks is more or less exactly what you would expect it to be under Netanyahu.

[west_tip]

For that matter Biden is the most pro Israel President in US history. He actually describes himself as a Zionist and was an advocate/shill for Israel throughout Obama's administration. He was pro Israel as a senator.

This is not news, it's not a revelation.

[Hey Yo]

there's a lot of ignorance in this to unpack. i'd rather play video games however. go educate yourself and stop reading zionist sources only. this conflict dates back decades and has been the farthest thing from being legal or the only option left with.

you sound like a zionist legacy media agent.

Meltdown