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Drygon
01-04-2025, 06:51 PM
https://x.com/Thetruth8240/status/1875574156798112107

Ater LeBron game last night

- LeBron scored 30+ points in 563 out of 1,573 games
- MJ scored 30+ points in 562 out of 1,053 games

3ba11
01-04-2025, 06:52 PM
Taking 7 more seasons to do the same thing is now "padding his goat resume"

This is why people hate the media - they're bullshitters and treat the audience like they're mentally-challenged or 5 years old

it's a farce... a fugazi.. a completely fake debate for money

1987_Lakers
01-04-2025, 06:57 PM
People don't understand that LeBron was basically MJ & Magic for his teams. The leading scorer and the leading assist guy while Pippen was doing the distributing for Chicago. Hell, you had Kukoc dishing out more assists than MJ in some years.

LeBron has 336 games with 10+ assists compared to MJ's 76. :lol

Full Court
01-04-2025, 07:27 PM
People don't understand that LeBron was basically MJ & Magic for his teams. The leading scorer and the leading assist guy while Pippen was doing the distributing for Chicago. Hell, you had Kukoc dishing out more assists than MJ in some years.

LeBron has 336 games with 10+ assists compared to MJ's 76. :lol

People understand that he always tried to take the easy route by jumping to super teams, and thus was never close to MJ or Magic for those teams. I mean, he's spent 25% of his career being a net negative. Probably why he doesn't have as many rings as either of them. :lol

Truth sure does hurt, doesn't it? Imagine picking the biggest choker of all time to fall in love with. I'm sure there are psychological things at play there.

:lebronamazed:

3ba11
01-04-2025, 07:31 PM
People don't understand that LeBron was basically MJ & Magic for his teams. The leading scorer and the leading assist guy while Pippen was doing the distributing for Chicago. Hell, you had Kukoc dishing out more assists than MJ in some years.

LeBron has 336 games with 10+ assists compared to MJ's 76. :lol


APG

Westbrook.......... 7.9
Rondo................ 7.9
D-Lo.................. 5.8
Kyrie.................. 5.7
Wade................. 5.4
Jordan............... 5.3
Pippen............... 5.2


^^^ Lebron needed far more playmaking help than Jordan (and scoring help and rim protection).

Furthermore, being Jordan requires completely carrying the scoring load and therefore defeating max defensive attention, while Lebron always had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention, so Lebron was never "Jordan"... He has no scoring ability compared to jordan.

And Jordan led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and 3 title runs, so he led the Bulls in passing and was the only guy that could achieve elite assists and playmaking if needed..

So MJ carried the scoring load and also led the passing, but there was no real "passing load" because the triangle doesn't have a point guard role, and Kobe won without ANY passing help, which proves that Pippen wasn't needed and is overrated..

StrongLurk
01-04-2025, 07:39 PM
The 30-point games is too specific of a stat to care about. It's dumb to be honest.

With that being said, Lebron already proved himself to be GOAT of the modern era.

3ba11
01-04-2025, 08:46 PM
The 30-point games is too specific of a stat to care about. It's dumb to be honest.

With that being said, Lebron already proved himself to be GOAT of the modern era.


Lebron is a perennial loser that destroyed the game - he's nowhere near GOAT.. The following fleshes this out and proves it:

"dominant champions" are defined as title runs of 1 loss per round or less (4 losses max), while "dynasties" are defined as mostly winning over a material stretch of 5+ years (i.e. 3 in 5).... 1st options with a career assisted rate above 40% (jumpshooters or bigs) were 1st option for 12 of 12 dynasties or dominant champions (the best basketball).. Otoh, 1st options with a career assisted rate below 40% (ball-dominators) were never 1st option for the best basketball (0 for 12)...

Since the best jumpshooters and bigs produce the best basketball, they're superior to the best ball-dominators, so the first ball-dominators appear in the all-time rankings at 11th, 12th, and 13th (Magic, Lebron, Oscar).. The issue is that low-assisted 1st options have a high volume of unassisted buckets that hinders ball movement, while highly-assisted 1st options produce higher-assist teams and foster the great ball movement that every dynasty has.

The full rankings are MJ, Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Curry, Jokic, Magic, Lebron, Oscar - the 2nd thru 10th spots are more interchangeable and subjective, but it's set in stone that MJ is #1 and ball-dominators are no higher than 11th, based on the previous logic that ball-dominators are never the 1st option for the best basketball (dynasties or dominant champions).

1987_Lakers
01-04-2025, 08:50 PM
APG

Westbrook.......... 7.9
Rondo................ 7.9
D-Lo.................. 5.8
Kyrie.................. 5.7
Wade................. 5.4
Jordan............... 5.3
Pippen............... 5.2


^^^ Lebron needed far more playmaking help than Jordan (and scoring help and rim protection).

Furthermore, being Jordan requires completely carrying the scoring load and therefore defeating max defensive attention, while Lebron always had equal-scoring partners to attract equal defensive attention, so Lebron was never "Jordan"... He has no scoring ability compared to jordan.

And Jordan led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and 3 title runs, so he led the Bulls in passing and was the only guy that could achieve elite assists and playmaking if needed..

So MJ carried the scoring load and also led the passing, but there was no real "passing load" because the triangle doesn't have a point guard role, and Kobe won without ANY passing help, which proves that Pippen wasn't needed and is overrated..

MJ never led any of his championship teams in assists. Along came Scottie

Phoenix
01-04-2025, 08:56 PM
The full rankings are MJ, Kareem, Russell, Wilt, Kobe, Bird, Duncan, Shaq, Curry, Jokic, Magic, Lebron, Oscar - the 2nd thru 10th spots are more interchangeable and subjective, but it's set in stone that MJ is #1 and ball-dominators are no higher than 11th, based on the previous logic that ball-dominators are never the 1st option for the best basketball (dynasties or dominant champions).

In prior posts you've said elite jumpshooters are ahead of bigs. So why is Kobe, Bird and Curry not ahead of Kareem,Russell, Wilt based on that criteria?

StrongLurk
01-04-2025, 09:56 PM
MJ never led any of his championship teams in assists. Along came Scottie

Pip went 6/6 in the finals and Lebron is the GOAT of the modern era. Idk why people get so bothered by these facts.

Full Court
01-04-2025, 09:56 PM
MJ never led any of his championship teams in assists. Along came Scottie

He didn't need to. He had other competent playmakers, and he didn't need to be the ball dominator for the sake of padding assist stats. You should put more effort into understanding the sport.

1987_Lakers
01-04-2025, 09:58 PM
He didn't need to. He had other competent playmakers, and he didn't need to be the ball dominator for the sake of padding assist stats. You should put more effort into understanding the sport.

Says the guy who thought Don Nelson made the HOF for his playing career.

3ba11
01-04-2025, 10:15 PM
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MJ assisted on the most Bulls field goals for both 3-peats, and led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and 3 title runs



Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced





He didn't need to. He had other competent playmakers, and he didn't need to be the ball dominator for the sake of padding assist stats. You should put more effort into understanding the sport.


Why would you let him lie to you like that?

Jordan led the Bulls in assists for 3 title runs and 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen, while assisting on the highest percentage of field goals for both 3-peats (assist percentage) - see previous posts and understand that a lebron fan is ALWAYS lying to you - take nothing they say the truth and verify any claim they make... They support the fraud, so they have to lie.

3ba11
01-04-2025, 10:16 PM
MJ never led any of his championship teams in assists. Along came Scottie


MJ led the Bulls in assists for 6 of 9 playoff runs alongside Pippen and 3 title runs, while assisting on the most Bulls field goals for both 3-peats (assist percentage):




Assist Percentage 1991-1993 Playoffs:

Jordan: 31.1%
Pippen: 23.3%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1991-1993-sum:playoffs_advanced


Assist Percentage 1996-1998 Playoffs:

Jordan: 22.3%
Pippen: 22.0%

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordami01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pippesc01.html#1996-1998-sum:playoffs_advanced

Full Court
01-04-2025, 11:41 PM
Says the guy who thought Don Nelson made the HOF for his playing career.

More deflection and damage control. :lol

Fact is, nobody other than Bronie fluffers see taking an additional 7 years in the no defense era to reach this milestone as anything other than useless media hype.

Do you know how many 40 pt games Jordan has and how many LeShrivel has? You should research it.

And1AllDay
01-05-2025, 10:28 PM
why did mikey quit early?

next

Full Court
01-05-2025, 10:42 PM
why did mikey quit early?

next

He just hung around long enough to become the consensus GOAT.

Hurts, huh? :lol

HoopsNY
01-06-2025, 10:51 AM
MJ never led any of his championship teams in assists. Along came Scottie

Yea, but he did lead his team in his first 5 of 6 full regular seasons (missed most of '86). He led in '85, '88, '89, and '90. He also led in '02 for whatever that's worth.

As for the playoffs, MJ led in '85, '86, '87, '88, '89, '90, '91, '93, and '97. I'm not sure what you're getting at is even the flex that you think it is.

theman93
01-06-2025, 11:24 PM
Only 27 more years for him to go to catch MJ in 40+ point games :applause:

Full Court
01-06-2025, 11:30 PM
Only 27 more years for him to go to catch MJ in 40+ point games :applause:

Think about it, Lebronie could score 40+ points in every single game for the rest of the season and he still wouldn't be close to catching MJ.

theman93
01-07-2025, 01:51 AM
Think about it, Lebronie could score 40+ points in every single game for the rest of the season and he still wouldn't be close to catching MJ.

He could even add all of Allen Iverson’s 40+ point games to his total and still wouldn’t pass Jordan :lol

sdot_thadon
01-07-2025, 02:56 PM
He could even add all of Allen Iverson’s 40+ point games to his total and still wouldn’t pass Jordan :lol

And how many games would Mj need to catch Lebron in 10+ assist games? Because that's literally the difference were talking about.

Full Court
01-07-2025, 03:33 PM
And how many games would Mj need to catch Lebron in 10+ assist games? Because that's literally the difference were talking about.

Lebron's inordinate amount of time dominating the ball has boosted his assist numbers, but it's a big part of the reason why he's done so much more losing than Jordan. Jordan was able to play off ball in a way Lebron never could.

sdot_thadon
01-07-2025, 11:18 PM
Lebron's inordinate amount of time dominating the ball has boosted his assist numbers, but it's a big part of the reason why he's done so much more losing than Jordan. Jordan was able to play off ball in a way Lebron never could.

How about the AI translated version of your post from idiot to English so everyone can understand


Lebrom played a different style of ball than MJ and i cant get over it.

RRR3
01-07-2025, 11:19 PM
How about the AI translated version of your post from idiot to English so everyone can understand
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Holy shit

Full Court
01-08-2025, 09:21 AM
How about the AI translated version of your post from idiot to English so everyone can understand

A more accurate statement would be "Lebron played a different style of ball, which led to massive underachieving."


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