Should teams be able to draft players that stay in college?

[90sgoat]

Why not?

Teams can draft euros who stay in Europe, the draft rights are only rights, it is not a contract until signed.

Why won't the NCAA agree with that? Win-win for everyone. NBA teams get to draft talents and let them develop more in college.

Players could get some kind of insurance if they get injured, so they would get paid and now they have the likeness thing and get paid anyway.

Would dramatically make the NBA better with fewer raw players.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It wouldn't make the NBA better at all. If Cooper Flagg had been the #1 pick this year and then just gone to college how does that make NBA better?

[Xiao Yao You]

It wouldn't make the NBA better at all. If Cooper Flagg had been the #1 pick this year and then just gone to college how does that make NBA better?

Age limit doesnt change. They dont want to scout high schools. Nhl teams have guys in their minor league team, colleges, junior keagues and other leagues around the world. What they need is a real minor league now that all teams finally have a gleague team. No more two ways. Vets in The nba. Youngsters not ready in gleague like baseball and hockey

[90sgoat]

It wouldn't make the NBA better at all. If Cooper Flagg had been the #1 pick this year and then just gone to college how does that make NBA better?

It makes it better because players come into the league more polished so the general play increases as teams don't have to basically tank to get their prospects playing time. We've seen quite a few players, mostly guards, have absolutely shit rookie seasons in the last decade. Some of them are clearly not ready.

[Xiao Yao You]

It makes it better because players come into the league more polished so the general play increases as teams don't have to basically tank to get their prospects playing time. We've seen quite a few players, mostly guards, have absolutely shit rookie seasons in the last decade. Some of them are clearly not ready.

Thats what the gleague is for. Teams want to lose. That wouldnt change anything

[90sgoat]

Thats what the gleague is for. Teams want to lose. That wouldnt change anything

The g-league is nowhere near college in coaching and skill, it's basically an extended summer league of chucking.

[Xiao Yao You]

The g-league is nowhere near college in coaching and skill, it's basically an extended summer league of chucking.

Debatable. Older players many who were stars in college as well as former college and pro coaches

[Kblaze8855]

It wouldn't make the NBA better at all. If Cooper Flagg had been the #1 pick this year and then just gone to college how does that make NBA better?

Did Bird going to the Celtics make it better? If they didn’t draft Bird 6th in 78 knowing he was going back he and Magic are going 1-2 to the Lakers and Bulls in 79 in whatever order the lakers made it.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It makes it better because players come into the league more polished so the general play increases as teams don't have to basically tank to get their prospects playing time. We've seen quite a few players, mostly guards, have absolutely shit rookie seasons in the last decade. Some of them are clearly not ready.

Being drafted before they're eligible wouldn't make the players any more ready for the NBA it would just change who drafts them. The main change would be making for even more tanking as teams draft a guy with a high pick and then wait a year the player to join them which gives them an extra year of sucking.
Did Bird going to the Celtics make it better? If they didn’t draft Bird 6th in 78 knowing he was going back he and Magic are going 1-2 to the Lakers and Bulls in 79 in whatever order the lakers made it. It's impossible to know how the Bird-Magic rivalry plays out if it's a Lakers/Bulls thing instead. It's unlikely that the Bulls build a contender for Bird quickly looking at how long it took for them to put the right team around Jordan. But that is about the players the specific teams can put around young Bird and not the general effect of letting Philly take the process to a new level where Sam Hinckie starts drafting 12 year-olds. The league will get these players sooner or later, letting a team draft a guy they think is talented sit in college generally isn't going to make anything better for the league as a whole.

[Kblaze8855]

That’s all well and good. I’m just saying That if you feel the Celtics should’ve had to relinquish any claim on bird, id be OK with that. We can adjust that banner count.

[Real Men Wear Green]

That’s all well and good. I’m just saying That if you feel the Celtics should’ve had to relinquish any claim on bird, id be OK with that. We can adjust that banner count.

No rule was broken at the time. It's the job of a guy like Auerbach or Stevens to figure out how to abuse the rules. It's Silver's job to then close the exposed loophole. This is not a moral issue to me, I'm just saying whether or not it's good the NBA.

[Kblaze8855]

I didn’t say any rule was broken. I thought the proposal was about changing a rule back to those days when you could do it. That said I really don’t see much potential downside. You’re still just drafting players and it will come down to who is smarter with the decisions like it does now. Quite a few people have had the NBA basically rig itself to get them to a certain place. Wilt Chamberlain is another. They knew he was going to the Warriors when he was in high school, even though he went to several years of college and played for the globetrotters for a year first.

Still just be a draft.

[Xiao Yao You]

Might be better. Teams are playing guys that shouldnt be playing now even though they could send them to the gleague. If they were in college still maybe a vet plays instead and the quality of play goes up? I doubt it but possible

[Real Men Wear Green]

I didn’t say any rule was broken. I thought the proposal was about changing a rule back to those days when you could do it. That said I really don’t see much potential downside. You’re still just drafting players and it will come down to who is smarter with the decisions like it does now. Quite a few people have had the NBA basically rig itself to get them to a certain place. Wilt Chamberlain is another. They knew he was going to the Warriors when he was in high school, even though he went to several years of college and played for the globetrotters for a year first.

Still just be a draft.

The downside is if you are against taking you don't want to see the draft abused in such a way that a team can draft two or three #1 picks in a row by drafting a guy that would be #1 in a year, remaining just as bad if not worse and thus getting another high pick. But if tanking doesn't bug you then it's unimportant either way.

[tontoz]

Did Bird going to the Celtics make it better? If they didn’t draft Bird 6th in 78 knowing he was going back he and Magic are going 1-2 to the Lakers and Bulls in 79 in whatever order the lakers made it.


Yeah Bird was eligible for the draft due to his age but chose to stay in college. Not sure if that can still happen today.