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Doomsday Dallas
01-25-2025, 08:55 PM
The last 7 presidents are ranked in the following order:

1. Bill Clinton

tied for 2nd & 3rd: Reagan & Obama

4. Bush Sr

5. Donald Trump

6. Joe Biden

7. Bush Jr.


I base my rankings on the following criteria: Economy & National Security.

you can't rank Joe Biden above Trump, because Biden was so bad that he got Trump reelected, had Kamala won the won election, I'd put Biden above Trump.

But make no mistake about it... Bush Jr. was the worst of them all, while Clinton was by far the best.

JohnnySic
01-25-2025, 09:03 PM
1. Trump
2. Reagan
3. Bush Sr
4. Clinton
5. Obama
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden

Doomsday Dallas
01-25-2025, 09:05 PM
1. Trump
2. Reagan
3. Bush Sr
4. Clinton
5. Obama
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden


Covid19 happened under Trump's watch... the entire country shut down, trillions of dollars were socialized.

BurningHammer
01-25-2025, 10:11 PM
1. Trump
2. Reagan
3. Bush Sr
4. Clinton
5. Obama
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden

Why hating on W? :eek:

MrFonzworth
01-25-2025, 10:49 PM
1. Trump
2. Reagan
3. Bush Sr
4. Clinton
5. Obama
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden

:roll::roll::roll:

JohnnySic
01-25-2025, 11:18 PM
Covid19 happened under Trump's watch... the entire country shut down, trillions of dollars were socialized.

Covid was a global shitshow. Dont see how any other president could have done things differently.

Lakers Legend#32
01-26-2025, 03:17 AM
In the last 24 hours the felon froze foreign aid, pissed off Europe and put an unqualified drunk in charge of our military.

ShawkFactory
01-26-2025, 04:46 AM
Covid was a global shitshow. Dont see how any other president could have done things differently.

You like Trump because he stuck it to the people you don’t like. And honestly…respect. I’d probably feel the same way.

He is not binding America very well. And as someone of the side you take that’ll be okay for now but it’s not good in the long run.

We can talk about leftists ruining this country but Trump is certainly no help either. Maybe for you you want at the moment but big picture-wise? Dude isn’t good. Idk man I want things to go well but we’re already gone

Hey Yo
01-26-2025, 09:00 AM
1. Trump
2. Reagan
3. Bush Sr
4. Clinton
5. Obama
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden

This ^^^^

BigKobeFan
01-26-2025, 11:26 AM
Covid was a global shitshow. Dont see how any other president could have done things differently.

Covid would not have been released if another president not named trump was in office

tpols
01-26-2025, 11:43 AM
Covid19 happened under Trump's watch... the entire country shut down, trillions of dollars were socialized.

And he was against that. The democrats demonized him for "downplaying" it though so he was forced to go along with the plan.

diamenz
01-26-2025, 12:16 PM
And he was against that. The democrats demonized him for "downplaying" it though so he was forced to go along with the plan.

bullshit. right wingers blaming democrats for this is the most sorry cop-out i've ever heard. hold the man to account.

trump had options. he could have gone the route of the great barrington declaration (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Barrington_Declaration) or others forms of focused protection. but he didn't - he bucked to pressure, listened to anthony *ucking fauci and went full shutdown over what was nothing but a bad cold for normal, healthy people.

Media Moderator
01-26-2025, 01:47 PM
1. Reagan
2. Clinton(only because he tossed his initial objectives in the trash after his first 2 years, let the Republican dominated House/Senate do everything and led almost entirely by what White House pollsters told him was popular)
3. Trump(he still has work to do. Covid limited what he could accomplish in his first presidency)
4. Obama
5. Bush Sr
6. Bush Jr
7. Biden

SouBeachTalents
01-26-2025, 02:03 PM
I'm genuinely curious besides political bias how W wouldn't be last on every ranking. Regardless of political affiliation, his administration was a disaster on both domestic and international fronts. Even if you felt Biden was terrible, his administration didn't cause nearly as much damage.

Media Moderator
01-26-2025, 02:18 PM
I'm genuinely curious besides political bias how W wouldn't be last on every ranking. Regardless of political affiliation, his administration was a disaster on both domestic and international fronts. Even if you felt Biden was terrible, his administration didn't cause nearly as much damage.

He made some disastrous decisions that's for sure. But he did put the fear of God into the terrorists and the middle east. Because of his actions any nation other than "Palestine" will think twice for supporting a terror campaign inside the US. And tbh his popularity really took a huge hit because he let the Democrats(along with a few greedy Republicans)convince him every working class person deserved a house they couldn't afford. He, or the White House rather because Georgie probably made few decisions on his own, tried to reign in the stupid lending programs as early as 2005 but he faced too much opposition to go against the real estate party that was going on across America. Plus he was mainly focused on his anti terror campaign anyways. IMO if there's one nice thing you could say about him, he's probably the most genuine president we've had in a long time. He's not a psychopath personality like literally almost every president we've ever had. He probably didn't even want to be president. I'm guessing he was pushed into it.

Lakers Legend#32
01-26-2025, 04:01 PM
You like Trump because he stuck it to the people you don’t like. And honestly…respect. I’d probably feel the same way.

He is not binding America very well. And as someone of the side you take that’ll be okay for now but it’s not good in the long run.

We can talk about leftists ruining this country but Trump is certainly no help either. Maybe for you you want at the moment but big picture-wise? Dude isn’t good. Idk man I want things to go well but we’re already gone

Trump supporters know he won't do anything for them and they don't care.

But they do know he will make the lives of the people they hate worse off.

That is everything to them.

ArbitraryWater
01-26-2025, 05:47 PM
2nd term Trump is goating very hard

ShawkFactory
01-26-2025, 06:16 PM
2nd term Trump is goating very hard

In some degrees I suppose. He’s also kind of over-stepping limits and setting a bad precedence for future candidates. The democrats are certainly to blame as well but there is something in the wind at the moment and I don’t think it turns out well for most.

Capitalism is the best economic system that there is but even that cannibalizes itself and I think we’re close to that point. Donald Trump with Musk, Zuck, and Bezos behind him like a fvckinf task force clarifies that. Is what it is but things are about to change drastically. Whether it’s good or bad remains to be seen.

TheMan
01-26-2025, 06:21 PM
2nd term Trump is goating very hard
Sez the foreigner

1987_Lakers
01-26-2025, 07:10 PM
Bush Jr and Biden are at the bottom, would have Bush Jr last.

Bush Sr was average

Reagan, Clinton, & Obama are highly regarded by their parties. I feel Reagan is usually considered a tier above Clinton & Obama while Obama is ranked higher than Clinton.

Trump is currently in office so there is no point of ranking him, but I thought he had a fine first term.

1987_Lakers
01-26-2025, 07:14 PM
On a side note Trump basically changed the Republican party, it became the party of free speech and generally against war which is wild to see.

BurningHammer
01-26-2025, 10:00 PM
In some degrees I suppose. He’s also kind of over-stepping limits and setting a bad precedence for future candidates. The democrats are certainly to blame as well but there is something in the wind at the moment and I don’t think it turns out well for most.

Capitalism is the best economic system that there is but even that cannibalizes itself and I think we’re close to that point. Donald Trump with Musk, Zuck, and Bezos behind him like a fvckinf task force clarifies that. Is what it is but things are about to change drastically. Whether it’s good or bad remains to be seen.

Isn't he the fist to abuse EOs? Even Biden did it after and every next POTUS will do.

Chick Stern
01-26-2025, 10:57 PM
Covid was a global shitshow. Dont see how any other president could have done things differently.
He literally eliminated the pandemic preparedness unit.

Compared to Peer Countries, the U.S. Had the Highest Rate of Mortality Among People Under Age 65 and Potential Years of Life Lost in 2020 Due to the Pandemic

StickyWice
01-26-2025, 11:10 PM
Sez the foreigner

Tariff go up because you mexing

ShawkFactory
01-26-2025, 11:35 PM
Tariff go up because you mexing

Use your main you weirdo

StickyWice
01-26-2025, 11:47 PM
On a side note Trump basically changed the Republican party, it became the party of free speech and generally against war which is wild to see.

It is call being a constitutionalist and valuing American above al

Media Moderator
01-27-2025, 02:08 AM
He literally eliminated the pandemic preparedness unit.

Compared to Peer Countries, the U.S. Had the Highest Rate of Mortality Among People Under Age 65 and Potential Years of Life Lost in 2020 Due to the Pandemic

Duh. I'm assuming "Peer countries" means white countries. The European country with the largest black population is France and it barely has over a third of the US black population and they have almost no Hispanics. Whites under 65 years of age are extremely resilient against the COVID virus, blacks and Hispanics are not. In fact more Hispanics in the 45-54 year old range die than the 65-74 year old whites. We've been all over this before. When it comes to COVID, white people are tough.

Similarly, while excess mortality among non-Hispanic White individuals was almost entirely confined to those 65 and older, we found evidence of substantial excess mortality among younger working-age (ages 25-64) Hispanic, non-Hispanic Black and non-Hispanic AIAN populations. For example, while the excess mortality rate for non-Hispanic White men ages 65-74 was 3.2 per 10,000 PMs, their younger non-Hispanic AIAN counterparts ages 45-54 experienced a comparable rate of 3.7 per 10,000.

dankok8
01-27-2025, 12:59 PM
From best to worst:

Reagan (last era of true prosperity)
Trump (good first term derailed by Covid)
H.W. Bush
W. Bush
Obama
Clinton (NAFTA/China free trade disaster, embarrassing scandals)
Biden (total incompetence all-around)

Clinton and Biden are in their own category of bad. The others were all at least decent.

SouBeachTalents
01-27-2025, 01:14 PM
From best to worst:

Reagan (last era of true prosperity)
Trump (good first term derailed by Covid)
H.W. Bush
W. Bush
Obama
Clinton (NAFTA/China free trade disaster, embarrassing scandals)
Biden (total incompetence all-around)

Clinton and Biden are in their own category of bad. The others were all at least decent.
Fox News approves.

dankok8
01-27-2025, 01:18 PM
Fox News approves.

For real. Republican presidents have been better for America.

SouBeachTalents
01-27-2025, 01:24 PM
For real. Republican presidents have been better for America.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if you genuinely believe the country was better off under W than Clinton or Obama, idk what to tell you. I'd like to hear in what ways the country was better in 2008 than it was in 2000 when Clinton left.

FKAri
01-27-2025, 07:53 PM
From best to worst:

Reagan (last era of true prosperity)
Trump (good first term derailed by Covid)
H.W. Bush
W. Bush
Obama
Clinton (NAFTA/China free trade disaster, embarrassing scandals)
Biden (total incompetence all-around)

Clinton and Biden are in their own category of bad. The others were all at least decent.

Embarrassing scandals? lol. You disqualified yourself. If that shit happened today it wouldn't even be called a scandal. Clinton got dealt the best hand out of the bunch. Which is why it's hard to fault him much even if in a vacuum he wasn't great.

One thing everyone should agree on is that Bush Jr. is last.
He was dealt a tough hand as were some others on this list but none of them allowed their VP to run roughshod to that extent. No one had less control over their admin. Which makes me wonder, if Cheney was a more positive force, would it have improved W's legacy? I think so. The fact that his legacy is so tied to Cheney is what made him such a poor president. This is a similar reason to why Biden should probably be 2nd last but he gets boosted by the fact that he didn't have a Cheney. Presidents sitting in the passenger seat is an easy criticism. Everything else can be excused away for a million different reasons that we can never truly know.

Jasper
01-27-2025, 11:31 PM
1. clinton last prez to balance budget
2. obama pulled country out of bush crap
3. Bush Sr
4. reagon raised tax
5. biden raised food prices (took us out of Trump losses)
6. trump losses of businesses and put people on Ivermectin
7.Bush Jr loss of 401k, houses and banks ... 3 car manufactures drained

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 11:16 AM
Covid19 happened under Trump's watch... the entire country shut down, trillions of dollars were socialized.

He handled covid like shit yes, but also he divided the entire country to near civil war levels so there is that.

Decent list in the OP overall though

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 11:21 AM
He handled covid like shit yes, but also he divided the entire country to near civil war levels so there is that.

Decent list in the OP overall though
:oldlol:

BurningHammer
01-28-2025, 11:29 AM
:oldlol:

That's the main reason he is elected twice though. Everything he has done is a big ol' divide-and-conquer strategy.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 11:43 AM
That's the main reason he is elected twice though. Everything he has done is a big ol' divide-and-conquer strategy.

It's just all "mean tweets" though. No biggie. The words our leaders use to lead us don't matter.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 11:52 AM
That's the main reason he is elected twice though. Everything he has done is a big ol' divide-and-conquer strategy.

Media divided the country by saying "Trump is Hitler". Many believed it back then, now most have caught on that it was just propaganda. The establishment was/is scared shitless of him because he isn't your normal politician that is bought off.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 11:53 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnWYmcJX0AAPPFl.jpg:large


Also this. Trump added to our debt like no other. In just 4 years time he almost did as much as Obama's complete 8 years.

It is a given that after 4 more years Trump will be hands down the biggest spender we've ever had.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnWYmcJX0AAPPFl.jpg:large


Also this. Trump added to our debt like no other. In just 4 years time he almost did as much as Obama's complete 8 years.

It is a given that after 4 more years Trump will be hands down the biggest spender we've ever had.

National debt spiked up with Trump to fight the COVID pandemic, many economists agree it was necessary to avoid economic disaster.

Misleading chart too. Obama raised the debt by 64.4% compared to Trump's 33.1%.

RRR3
01-28-2025, 12:15 PM
Media divided the country by saying "Trump is Hitler". Many believed it back then, now most have caught on that it was just propaganda. The establishment was/is scared shitless of him because he isn't your normal politician that is bought off.
The guy who had Zuckerberg Musk and Bezos at his inauguration front row isn’t bought off. 1987_Dumbass with another the moon is a spaceship level take :lol

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:26 PM
The guy who had Zuckerberg Musk and Bezos at his inauguration front row isn’t bought off. 1987_Dumbass with another the moon is a spaceship level take :lol

Zuckerberg and Bezos in particular are sucking up to Trump. They know he means business.

Btw, you told me Trump wouldn't release those JFK files while I told you he would.

Who was right?

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:28 PM
National debt spiked up with Trump to fight the COVID pandemic, many economists agree it was necessary to avoid economic disaster.

Misleading chart too. Obama raised the debt by 64.4% compared to Trump's 33.1%.

Obama has the same excuse, bailout for the housing market collapse. The difference is Trump has only served 4 years so far compared to Obama's 8.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:30 PM
Obama has the same excuse, bailout for the housing market collapse. The difference is Trump has only served 4 years so far compared to Obama's 8.

Yea, you can make that point.

But your initial post "Trump added to our debt like no other. In just 4 years time he almost did as much as Obama's complete 8 years." Is basically retarded once you look at the debt they added by percentage.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:35 PM
Also in almost every official POTUS ranking system, Trump almost always comes in last with this group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_St ates

Those are based on various criteria also. And not just "the media said he's bad" or "he's old".



Trump's approval rating is also dead last in this group.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnWYmcJX0AAPPFl.jpg:large

And no president raised the debt in the last 50 years like Reagan did, but this chart makes it feel like that wasn't the case. :oldlol:

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:37 PM
Also in almost every official POTUS ranking system, Trump almost always comes in last with this group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_St ates

Those are based on various criteria also. And not just "the media said he's bad" or "he's old".



Trump's approval rating is also dead last in this group.

Establishment historians/journalists don't like him? Shocker.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:39 PM
Yea, you can make that point.

But your initial post "Trump added to our debt like no other. In just 4 years time he almost did as much as Obama's complete 8 years." Is basically retarded once you look at the debt they added by percentage.

Not in the way you have dumbed it down to. If Trump adds another 33% or whatever that is more than the entire debt total even was under Obama.

If Trump added the exact same amount this term as his last term, it might only be a 25% raise in debt, BECAUSE TRUMP MADE IT ENORMOUS HIS FIRST TERM.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:39 PM
Establishment historians/journalists don't like him? Shocker.

AGAIN, those are lots of polls based on mostly REAL criteria. It's not just "I don't like him"

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:41 PM
AGAIN, those are lots of polls based on mostly REAL criteria. It's not just "I don't like him"

You do realize the ranking list you posted has Joe Biden at #14 in one ranking & #19 in another one right??? :roll:

Yea, these rankings have turned into propaganda for the left.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:48 PM
Not in the way you have dumbed it down to. If Trump adds another 33% or whatever that is more than the entire debt total even was under Obama.

If Trump added the exact same amount this term as his last term, it might only be a 25% raise in debt, BECAUSE TRUMP MADE IT ENORMOUS HIS FIRST TERM.

Just accept that the chart you listed is flawed. You ALWAYS go by percentage.

If we go by your chart someone like FDR comes off as someone who was very good with the national debt, but in reality no president in history raised the national debt like he did.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:56 PM
Just accept that the chart you listed is flawed. You ALWAYS go by percentage.

If we go by your chart someone like FDR comes off as someone who was very good with the national debt, but in reality no president in history raised the national debt like he did.

If you went back THAT far sure. But Obama and Trump are literally in the same time period. Right next to each other.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 12:57 PM
You do realize the ranking list you posted has Joe Biden at #14 in one ranking & #19 in another one right??? :roll:

Yea, these rankings have turned into propaganda for the left.

Yeah because it's based on real criteria and not just "he's old and senile". Biden's presidency was drama free for the most part and he recovered the economy from covid.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 12:59 PM
If you went back THAT far sure. But Obama and Trump are literally in the same time period. Right next to each other.

Yea, and if we adjust to percentage and hypothetically give Trump another 4 years they are basically the same in terms of national debt.

FDR is ranked as a top 4 president ever and he raised the national debt more than any president in history, why is national debt all of a sudden important to you?

And Biden is ranked as the 14th best president in history in the list you provided, which no sane person believes. :roll:

diamenz
01-28-2025, 01:05 PM
Embarrassing scandals? lol. You disqualified yourself. If that shit happened today it wouldn't even be called a scandal. Clinton got dealt the best hand out of the bunch. Which is why it's hard to fault him much even if in a vacuum he wasn't great.

One thing everyone should agree on is that Bush Jr. is last.
He was dealt a tough hand as were some others on this list but none of them allowed their VP to run roughshod to that extent. No one had less control over their admin. Which makes me wonder, if Cheney was a more positive force, would it have improved W's legacy? I think so. The fact that his legacy is so tied to Cheney is what made him such a poor president. This is a similar reason to why Biden should probably be 2nd last but he gets boosted by the fact that he didn't have a Cheney. Presidents sitting in the passenger seat is an easy criticism. Everything else can be excused away for a million different reasons that we can never truly know.

actually his proper title is governor bush because it's the only elected office that he's held legally.

RRR3
01-28-2025, 01:18 PM
Zuckerberg and Bezos in particular are sucking up to Trump. They know he means business.

Btw, you told me Trump wouldn't release those JFK files while I told you he would.

Who was right?
“The moon is a spaceship”


:roll: :roll: :roll:

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 01:24 PM
“The moon is a spaceship”


:roll: :roll: :roll:

How embarrassing for you to be wrong about the JFK files with someone who believes such a thing.

Hold this L

Hey Yo
01-28-2025, 01:28 PM
Yeah because it's based on real criteria and not just "he's old and senile". Biden's presidency was drama free for the most part and he recovered the economy from covid.
Yet his party took a giant shit on him and ousted him out of running for a 2nd term. He did so great, the Dems told Kamalluh not to run on anything that Biden was going to.

You're delusional, chico

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 01:33 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

AVERAGE APPROVAL RATING:


Bush Sr. : 61
Clinton: 55
Reagan: 53
Bush Jr: 49
Obama: 48
Biden: 42
Trump: 41

Bush Jr hit both the highest point (90) and lowest (25) because of 9/11

Trump is the only POTUS in history that never got it above 50%. His highest approval rating was 49%

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 01:35 PM
Yet his party took a giant shit on him and ousted him out of running for a 2nd term. He did so great, the Dems told Kamalluh not to run on anything that Biden was going to.

You're delusional, chico

He knows he can’t refute my point on his list he linked so he has refuted to trolling.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 01:35 PM
Yet his party took a giant shit on him and ousted him out of running for a 2nd term. He did so great, the Dems told Kamalluh not to run on anything that Biden was going to.

You're delusional, chico

Biden was clearly very old, and arguably senile. But while he was in office things went relatively well. He caught the aftermath of covid and had to deal with that but other than that his time in office was drama free for the most part.

warriorfan
01-28-2025, 01:35 PM
RRR3 and Up the Ass are on tilt big time.

Yikes.

1987_Lakers
01-28-2025, 01:37 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

AVERAGE APPROVAL RATING:


Bush Sr. : 61
Clinton: 55
Reagan: 53
Bush Jr: 49
Obama: 48
Biden: 42
Trump: 41

Bush Jr hit both the highest point (90) and lowest (25) because of 9/11

Trump is the only POTUS in history that never got it above 50%. His highest approval rating was 49%

Truman had a horrendous approval rating while in office but is now looked at a positive light by people.

Next

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 01:38 PM
Truman had a horrendous approval rating while in office but is now looked at a positive light by people.

Next

Approval rating was barely even a thing during Truman's time.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 01:42 PM
I can acknowledge that none of the things I am throwing out are flawless. They are definitely imperfect gauges. But they are much better than sheer opinion without anything to back it at all. Economic numbers are valuable info. Approval rating is valuable info.

Hey Yo
01-28-2025, 01:48 PM
Biden was clearly very old, and arguably senile. But while he was in office things went relatively well. He caught the aftermath of covid and had to deal with that but other than that his time in office was drama free for the most part.
There was plenty of drama caused by his administration with all the Trump bullshit is a big reason why Donny got elected while receiving the popular vote and winning all swing states.

To say otherwise is just pure denial.

SouBeachTalents
01-28-2025, 02:00 PM
There was plenty of drama caused by his administration with all the Trump bullshit is a big reason why Donny got elected while receiving the popular vote and winning all swing states.

To say otherwise is just pure denial.
Imo Trump won the popular vote and all the swing states primarily due to how horrendous and uninspiring a candidate Kamala was, a candidate voters didn't even get to choose in a primary.

If Biden hadn't had that catastrophic debate performance and stayed in the race, Trump still beats him, probably even decisively, but I think he manages to at least snag a swing state, make the popular vote margin closer.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 02:02 PM
There was plenty of drama caused by his administration with all the Trump bullshit is a big reason why Donny got elected while receiving the popular vote and winning all swing states.

To say otherwise is just pure denial.

I mean the Dems did fumble, yes. It was basically a 3-part mixture of Biden being old and Kamala being a quick fix. People blaming wokeness on the government which is retarded. And perceived covid inflation from Trump spending being blamed on Biden. When in reality wokeness has nothing to do with Biden and neither did the inflation rate which he fixed.

warriorfan
01-28-2025, 02:02 PM
I can acknowledge that none of the things I am throwing out are flawless. They are definitely imperfect gauges. But they are much better than sheer opinion without anything to back it at all. Economic numbers are valuable info. Approval rating is valuable info.

approval rating is literally sheer opinion

:roll:

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 02:12 PM
approval rating is literally sheer opinion

:roll:

yes, of the entire country vs ONE person in here :oldlol:

YOUR opinion means nothing. The entire country's opinion means something.

Hey Yo
01-28-2025, 02:12 PM
Imo Trump won the popular vote and all the swing states primarily due to how horrendous and uninspiring a candidate Kamala was, a candidate voters didn't even get to choose in a primary.

If Biden hadn't had that catastrophic debate performance and stayed in the race, Trump still beats him, probably even decisively, but I think he manages to at least snag a swing state, make the popular vote margin closer.

Yes, she was horrendous, but people were fed up with the illegals coming in and Biden / Harris rolling out the red carpet for them while American tax payers were still completely ignored. You'd have to be extremely naive to vote for someone who puts illegals first and all others last.

warriorfan
01-28-2025, 02:30 PM
yes, of the entire country vs ONE person in here :oldlol:

YOUR opinion means nothing. The entire country's opinion means something.

That doesn’t make sense. You claim Biden was a great president yet he had some of the worst approval ratings of all time.

You don’t consider individual opinions valid, but group opinion is valid, even if it completely flys in the face of what you are pushing? :oldlol:

Nice iq.

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 02:33 PM
That doesn’t make sense. You claim Biden was a great president yet he had some of the worst approval ratings of all time.

You don’t consider individual opinions valid, but group opinion is valid, even if it completely flys in the face of what you are pushing? :oldlol:

Nice iq.

I didn't say HE was great. I said his presidency went mostly drama free. Those ratings are mostly based on criteria of what actually happened during their presidency. Nice IQ

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 02:35 PM
You walk around in $500 gold Trump shoes and you smoke meth all day with a Supercuts hair cut and an unwiped ass so obviously your opinion is null and void.

Media Moderator
01-28-2025, 02:55 PM
Yes, she was horrendous, but people were fed up with the illegals coming in and Biden / Harris rolling out the red carpet for them while American tax payers were still completely ignored. You'd have to be extremely naive to vote for someone who puts illegals first and all others last.

You notice the resident libtards here avoid the immigration disaster that Kamala and Biden are responsible for like the plague :oldlol:

They know Trump is having to clean up their mess, but their pride can't bring them to admit it

warriorfan
01-28-2025, 03:11 PM
You walk around in $500 gold Trump shoes and you smoke meth all day with a Supercuts hair cut and an unwiped ass so obviously your opinion is null and void.

You use baby wipes and take it up the ass big time…



:crazysam:

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 03:39 PM
You use baby wipes and take it up the ass big time…



:crazysam:
You don't wipe at all and take it up the ***** "SUPER" big-time.

:crazysam:

warriorfan
01-28-2025, 04:32 PM
You don't wipe at all and take it up the ***** "SUPER" big-time.

:crazysam:

No I just use toilet paper like a normal person :oldlol:

Do you take your wipes with you all the time? Where do you keep them? :lol

Off the Court
01-28-2025, 07:41 PM
No I just use toilet paper like a normal person :oldlol:

Do you take your wipes with you all the time? Where do you keep them? :lol

They are on my toilet like everyone else who has sex with women. You aren't familiar with them because you're an incel.

You should get some because they would help the smell of your *****

Jasper
01-29-2025, 11:21 AM
National debt spiked up with Trump to fight the COVID pandemic, many economists agree it was necessary to avoid economic disaster.

Misleading chart too. Obama raised the debt by 64.4% compared to Trump's 33.1%.

it was an economic disaster.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 03:50 PM
They are on my toilet like everyone else who has sex with women. You aren't familiar with them because you're an incel.

You should get some because they would help the smell of your *****

What happens when you have to take a shit away from home?

Don’t you shower in the morning too?

These wipes just seem very redundant unless you are someone with some sort of stomach problems or don’t shower very often.

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 04:34 PM
What happens when you have to take a shit away from home?

Don’t you shower in the morning too?

These wipes just seem very redundant unless you are someone with some sort of stomach problems or don’t shower very often.

Most dudes regular shit-shower-shave every morning before leaving the house. I rarely ever shit in public. If I do? It's just TP.

here you go:

Before launching new products, the company says it speaks to its three million members to understand the products they want and research the category. After surveying 1000 men, the company found that 51% were using wet wipes regularly, with 24% hiding them in the bathroom and 23% buying them discreetly online. “We knew there was a need for a butt wipe men would not be ashamed to purchase,” the brand rep says.
https://www.nonwovens-industry.com/issues/2016-04-12/view_features/wipes-entrepreneurs-target-men/


You know who those 51% of men are? The ones who are sexually active. You don't care how you smell, because you aren't having sex.

The same reason you get your hair cut by 75 year old Irene at Supercuts.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 04:46 PM
Most dudes regular shit-shower-shave every morning before leaving the house. I rarely ever shit in public. If I do? It's just TP.

here you go:

https://www.nonwovens-industry.com/issues/2016-04-12/view_features/wipes-entrepreneurs-target-men/


You know who those 51% of men are? The ones who are sexually active. You don't care how you smell, because you aren't having sex.

The same reason you get your hair cut by 75 year old Irene at Supercuts.

Exactly? So what is the point?

You are projecting pretty hard with this BO obsession. You must be some overweight indian guy or something :lol

This whole acting like it’s very difficult to clean yourself is weird and cringe too. If anything it shows you have obviously struggled with it at some point of your life, or that you still are…considering you need to use baby wipes to combat it :lol

The 51 percent of all men figure? Yeah, have you seen overweight and obesity numbers lately? Fat ass people who have messy shits and can’t wipe properly are buying them.

You are now at the stage where you think if you don’t use baby wipes you won’t be able to get laid. :facepalm

All of your posts come off as an overweight gay man pretending to be straight.

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:15 PM
This isn't the hill you want to die on :oldlol:. Wipes are very quickly becoming the social norm in the US, already are for most. Just look at how big that section has become next time you are at the grocery store stinky ass incel.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 05:20 PM
This isn't the hill you want to die on :oldlol:. Wipes are very quickly becoming the social norm in the US, already are for most. Just look at how big that section has become next time you are at the grocery store stinky ass incel.

When did you start using baby wipes?

Did you hook up with chicks before you used wipes?

Why are wipes so necessary if you shower after?

Do you realize if wipes are becoming “the social norm” as you put it, is directly linked to skyrocketing obesity numbers and poor diets?

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:23 PM
Imagine being this terrified to clean your ass because you think other men will judge you :roll:

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 05:35 PM
Imagine being this terrified to clean your ass because you think other men will judge you :roll:

Imagine being terrified to answer a few very simple questions. :lol

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:42 PM
Imagine being terrified to answer a few very simple questions. :lol

The answers are obvious. Human asses stink, and TP doesn't do the job.

Almost all women use wipes, if you had sex with any you would know that. For men it isn't any different.

Congrats on outing yourself as an incel

SouBeachTalents
01-29-2025, 05:45 PM
Seriously, how did a thread about ranking presidents turn into a debate about how you wipe your ass :oldlol:

Never change ISH.

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:46 PM
warriorfan issued me a detailed questionaire about my ass wiping habits :oldlol:

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 05:49 PM
The answers are obvious. Human asses stink, and TP doesn't do the job.

Almost all women use wipes, if you had sex with any you would know that. For men it isn't any different.

Congrats on outing yourself as an incel

Wait so before you made the switch to wipes you never had sex?

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:53 PM
Wait so before you made the switch to wipes you never had sex?
Being sexually active is how you figure out wipes would be useful. That is the thing you haven't gone through yet :oldlol:

RRR3
01-29-2025, 05:54 PM
Being sexually active is how you figure out wipes would be useful. That is the thing you haven't gone through yet :oldlol:
"lmaooo

I literally have more friends than I know what to do with. Tbh being popular is low key exhausting. Maintaining relationships takes a lot of work."-warriorfan

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:55 PM
warriorfan you should probably hurry up and jump back to your StickyWice account before everyone makes the connection.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 05:56 PM
Being sexually active is how you figure out wipes would be useful. That is the thing you haven't gone through yet :oldlol:

Why can’t you answer a simple question? You being this avoidant is really weird…

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:56 PM
"lmaooo

I literally have more friends than I know what to do with. Tbh being popular is low key exhausting. Maintaining relationships takes a lot of work."-warriorfan

:roll:

RRR3
01-29-2025, 05:56 PM
warriorfan you should probably hurry up and jump back to your StickyWice account before everyone makes the connection.
Literally everyone besides probably Full Court can tell that's him. Especially given his history of anti-asian racism on here.

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 05:56 PM
Why can’t you answer a simple question? You being this avoidant is really weird…

That IS the answer nitwit

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 05:59 PM
Literally everyone besides probably Full Court can tell that's him. Especially given his history of anti-asian racism on here.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519743-Nightlight-teflondontrump-and-LLL3-were-all-MIA-while-warriorfan-was-banned-now-bac

Just like how you said I’m LLL3 and nightlight?

lmao you are legit schizophrenic

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 06:02 PM
That IS the answer nitwit

I asked you if you were a virgin before you started using baby wipes because you insist that anyone who doesn’t use wipes is an “incel”


You said “Being sexually active is how you figure out wipes would be useful. That is the thing you haven't gone through yet”

That’s not really answering the question. And what exactly happened? Were you plowing some stinky chick or something and get self conscious about your own BO? Did some chick reject you because you smelled like shit? What exactly happened here?

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:05 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519743-Nightlight-teflondontrump-and-LLL3-were-all-MIA-while-warriorfan-was-banned-now-bac

Just like how you said I’m LLL3 and nightlight?

lmao you are legit schizophrenic
You're infamous for using alts and you constantly espouse anti-asian racism as well as obsessing about Highwhey (the stickywice account keeps talking about "overweight Mexicans", which is pretty obviously trying to bait him). It's an easy conclusion to make.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 06:07 PM
You're infamous for using alts and you constantly espouse anti-asian racism as well as obsessing about Highwhey (the stickywice account keeps talking about "overweight Mexicans", which is pretty obviously trying to bait him). It's an easy conclusion to make.

So you were wrong all the times before but now you are dead certain your weird hunches are correct.

:lol

Interesting. Nice iq.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:09 PM
So you were wrong all the times before but now you are dead certain your weird hunches are correct.

:lol

Interesting. Nice iq.
I'm not certain, but it's certainly suspicious for the reasons I listed. You can't really talk when you always insist I'm Satan without any evidence besides Fatrick and jstern say so.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 06:13 PM
I'm not certain, but it's certainly suspicious for the reasons I listed. You can't really talk when you always insist I'm Satan without any evidence besides Fatrick and jstern say so.

News flash, lots of people like making fun of highwhey for being fat. Your logic of “person x makes fun of highwhey for being fat just like person y, therefore they must be the same person!” is so unbelievably low iq it’s painful.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:14 PM
News flash, lots of people like making fun of highwhey for being fat. Your logic of “person x makes fun of highwhey for being fat just like person y, therefore they must be the same person!” is so unbelievably low iq it’s painful.
Yeah but how many of those people also constantly spew anti-asian racism? You avoided that part because you know it narrows it down :lol

MrFonzworth
01-29-2025, 06:15 PM
Itt: The resident crackhead is getting his shit pushed in as per usual

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 06:17 PM
StickyWice goes on a posting tirade, then vanishes, replaced by warriorfan posting non-stop about ass wipes

It's him

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:18 PM
StickyWice goes on a posting tirade, then vanishes, replaced by warriorfan posting non-stop about ass wipes

It's him
No shit, dude thinks we're all as dumb as he is :roll:

MrFonzworth
01-29-2025, 06:23 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/cHWttN89/dfghsdfhs.jpg
:yaohappy:

SouBeachTalents
01-29-2025, 06:29 PM
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519743-Nightlight-teflondontrump-and-LLL3-were-all-MIA-while-warriorfan-was-banned-now-bac

Just like how you said I’m LLL3 and nightlight?

lmao you are legit schizophrenic
That Charlie Sheen poster has literally not posted since he got accused of being an alt :lol

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:33 PM
That Charlie Sheen poster has literally not posted since he got accused of being an alt :lol
Nor will he ever post again. Retired in shame :lol

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 06:36 PM
Charlie Sheen after realizing he posted on the wrong account:

https://media.tenor.com/cye-uHSPZvsAAAAM/poof-magic.gif

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:36 PM
Charlie Sheen after realizing he posted on the wrong account:

https://media.tenor.com/cye-uHSPZvsAAAAM/poof-magic.gif
:roll:

Absolute coward behavior he’s petrified to show his face now :oldlol:

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 06:46 PM
Yeah but how many of those people also constantly spew anti-asian racism? You avoided that part because you know it narrows it down :lol

How do I “constantly spew anti asian racism”? :lol

Off the top of my head I think i’ve posted the average pen1s size thing and I made fun of asians for eating stinky tofu.


Like what is the big deal here? Lol.

Getting outraged about this and trying to make it a huge ordeal is…..very weird to say the least.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 06:55 PM
How do I “constantly spew anti asian racism”? :lol

Off the top of my head I think i’ve posted the average pen1s size thing and I made fun of asians for eating stinky tofu.


Like what is the big deal here? Lol.

Getting outraged about this and trying to make it a huge ordeal is…..very weird to say the least.
“How do I constantly do it besides the times I just mentioned off the top of my head” :roll:

And that’s you minimizing it to defend yourself too lmao. Face it bub we’ve all seen your racist posts towards J3lademaster and mrfonzworth.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 07:05 PM
“How do I constantly do it besides the times I just mentioned off the top of my head” :roll:

And that’s you minimizing it to defend yourself too lmao. Face it bub we’ve all seen your racist posts towards J3lademaster and mrfonzworth.

You are deranged.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 07:07 PM
You are deranged.
https://i.ibb.co/svGvjYy/IMG-4719.png

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 07:16 PM
https://i.ibb.co/svGvjYy/IMG-4719.png

Case in point. You are so on tilt you are having a schizophrenic episode while imagining i’m this person in your picture along with a dozen other accounts on ISH. The sad reality is that picture is not me, none of those accounts are mine, but you still look like yourself, and you are a weird goofball who is constantly shrieking with fake outrage to try to convince yourself you have some sort of intrinsic value as a person. You’re absolutely pathetic.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 07:19 PM
:roll:

I know that's not you in the picture I literally just googled drug addict iirc. You're even dumber than I thought if you thought a pic I made as a way to troll you was me saying it was actually you :lol

I've noticed you start accusing people of being mentally ill whenever you're getting destroyed in threads, interesting coping mechanism.

Off the Court
01-29-2025, 07:31 PM
I'm pretty sure that person you googled just happens to actually be warriorfan irl.

RRR3
01-29-2025, 07:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that person you googled just happens to actually be warriorfan irl.
I mean absolutely no one would be surprised if he looks like that. But personally I have to wonder if he's fat, because he's constantly calling other posters fat, even if they've never posted a pic of themselves, almost as if he's projecting. We'll never know though because he's comfortable talking shit about how others look but won't post his own pic.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 09:31 PM
Off the Cope and existence is pain with the support group session :lol :roll:

j3lademaster
01-29-2025, 10:17 PM
https://i.ibb.co/svGvjYy/IMG-4719.png

Why is the best home defense weapon, the shotgun, on the floor. Especially if you can't shoot for shit like Warriorfan, it's definitely the weapon you want next to you. It's like someone challenged him to look more retarded than he already does and he had the 'hold my beer' moment he's been waiting for his whole life since he isn't good at anything else.

warriorfan
01-29-2025, 10:22 PM
Why is the best home defense weapon, the shotgun, on the floor. Especially if you can't shoot for shit like Warriorfan, it's definitely the weapon you want next to you. It's like someone challenged him to look more retarded than he already does and he had the 'hold my beer' moment he's been waiting for his whole life since he isn't good at anything else.

Don’t be surprised if your son turns out gay or trans or whatever after you have been shooting water up his booty hole his whole life. :confusedshrug:

Rocket
02-02-2025, 04:07 PM
That's the main reason he is elected twice though. Everything he has done is a big ol' divide-and-conquer strategy.
I hate to tell you but Obama is the one who started the divide and conquer crap. He made everything black vs. white, rich vs. poor, female vs. male, straight vs. gay, etc.....

John8204
02-05-2025, 08:35 PM
I hate to tell you but Obama is the one who started the divide and conquer crap. He made everything black vs. white, rich vs. poor, female vs. male, straight vs. gay, etc.....

That was Ronald Reagan who got rid of the protections media had for right and left reporting....

1. Obama
2. Biden
3. Reagan
4. Clinton
5. Bush Sr.
6. Trump
7. Bush Jr

Obama had the most positives...mostly because W was one of the all-time worst presidents we've ever had. Biden had a lot more wins during his administration. His biggest problem is a migrant crisis that really was formed in the 1980's under Reagan. Reagan has some good points but also a number of bad ones. Clinton would follow Reagan as 90's were a more stable time of American prosperity but NAFTA and Globalization really started to attack the middle class.

Bush Sr who oversaw a severe recession (not really his fault), but also failed in IRAQ that led to serious issues later. Trump economically has been solid so far but it's January and his crazy talk and ideas may have depression level results for this country. But W is definitely the worst over having two major cities suffer devastation, a middle eastern war that led to the deaths of a million people and a complete collapse of our economy due to deregulation's.