How many consider the bubble ring to be legit?

[warriorfan]

Does anyone here think the bubble ring is a legit ring and if so why?

[Doomsday Dallas]

you can say it is legit... but definitely deserves some kind of asterisk.

Let's pretend that Mavs won... I'd be saying we are the proud owners of the greatest ring in NBA history and the worst ring in NBA History... but the worst ring in NBA history is still a legit ring, it was just that the rules & environment had to change a little bit for that year.

[warriorfan]

you can say it is legit... but definitely deserves some kind of asterisk.

Let's pretend that Mavs won... I'd be saying we are the proud owners of the greatest ring in NBA history and the worst ring in NBA History... but the worst ring in NBA history is still a legit ring, it was just that the rules & environment had to change a little bit for that year.

Legit perspective. +1

[John8204]

Does anyone here think the bubble ring is a legit ring and if so why?

I haven't heard why a ring won a neutral field between four teams who all returned to the finals/won a chip. If anything it reminds me of the most legit ring in NBA history the Trailblazers 77 ring where the crooked refs were on strike and Portland was able to beat LA and Phili.

For me the rings that are the most illegitimate are

76' Celtics
78' Bullets
88' Lakers
00' Lakers
02' Lakers
03' Spurs
06' Heat

So at best you could call it the 8th worst title in NBA history. But you could also make the argument that the Bulls don't win because of the Pippen contract, most of the 70's don't count because of the ABA, major injuries eliminate the Raptors and Bucks series.

[Hey Yo]

15 of 66

[pandiani17]

All the teams competed under the same conditions. Therefore, yes. lol @ Clippers players saying years later they wanted to get home and that is why they lost. Then why did they went 3-1 up against the Nuggets? They would be better off losing the series in four or five games.

[pandiani17]

I haven't heard why a ring won a neutral field between four teams who all returned to the finals/won a chip. If anything it reminds me of the most legit ring in NBA history the Trailblazers 77 ring where the crooked refs were on strike and Portland was able to beat LA and Phili.

For me the rings that are the most illegitimate are

76' Celtics
78' Bullets
88' Lakers
00' Lakers
02' Lakers
03' Spurs
06' Heat

So at best you could call it the 8th worst title in NBA history. But you could also make the argument that the Bulls don't win because of the Pippen contract, most of the 70's don't count because of the ABA, major injuries eliminate the Raptors and Bucks series.

Just curious, any special reason why the rings you mentioned are not legitimate? Are they because those teams were very close to being eliminated in their runs? Rigged series (2002 and 2006)? I think there a lot of the teams that have become eventual champions were close to losing in ther way to the title (Ray Allen's shot in 2013,Rockets missing all those shots in 2018, Kawhi's lucky shot vs the Sixers in 2019, the Suns going 2-0 in the finals in 2021, etc.).

[John8204]

Just curious, any special reason why the rings you mentioned are not legitimate? Are they because those teams were very close to being eliminated in their runs? Rigged series (2002 and 2006)? I think there a lot of the teams that have become eventual champions were close to losing in ther way to the title (Ray Allen's shot in 2013,Rockets missing all those shots in 2018, Kawhi's lucky shot vs the Sixers in 2019, the Suns going 2-0 in the finals in 2021, etc.).

76 - The Suns made the finals because a Rick Barry throwing the Conference finals/series
78 - New playoff setup and the Walton injury completely screwed up the seedings so basically two .500 teams made the finals
88 - The infamous Laimbeer foul cost the Pistons the series and win
00 - Ref betting scandal years with the Trailblazers series
03 - Ref betting scandal years with the Kings series
03 - The Horry/Nash game
06 - The infamous Wade 97 free throws series

[SouBeachTalents]

It's more legit than Curry's rings with Durant.

Honestly, 2015 too, that title run was weak as shit :lol

[warriorfan]

It's more legit than Curry's rings with Durant.

Honestly, 2015 too, that title run was weak as shit :lol

low iq meltdown

[StrongLurk]

Waste of a thread. 90% of people think it's legit, the only people who don't are Bron haters.

[ShawkFactory]

Does anyone here think the bubble ring is a legit ring and if so why?

Everyone outside of the more intense Lebron haters considers it to be legit.

[Kblaze8855]

Legit as everything else. Covid didn’t just happen in basketball. Everything for a couple years was distorted, but it all happened. High school football. College seasons were ****ed up. The Olympics played in the wrong year missing a bunch of fans. NFL games that couldn’t show the crowd because there was virtually nobody there piping in crowd noise. That Super Bowl had about as many people as a Bulls game spread across a 75,000 seat Arena that was just set up to look full and had a bunch of fake noise. The nfc title game had 7000 people all spread out looking like an Oakland As game.

no more reason not to count the NBA championship than for some guy who won a gold medal without the crowd at that weird Olympics. You don’t let government regulation not count your achievements.

Especially when all the same people usually in contention won anyway. All that talk about it being weird and Lebron, Brady, Alabama football, and the Dodgers won the titles.

Lebron winning his 4th, Brady his 7th, Nick Saban his 7th(I think), and the big budget dodgers kinda suggest we got pretty normal results.

Not like the Pacers won at all or anything.

I feel like you just have to look past basketball. That was the whole world being weird for a while there. Things didn’t cease to exist. They just happened under different circumstances. You can only beat everybody else at the moment. The people during the Covid year couldn’t play anyone from 1983. You can only be the champion of your situation. Which is what all of them were. Cant be anything else.

[SouBeachTalents]

Legit as everything else. Covid didn’t just happen in basketball. Everything for a couple years was distorted, but it all happened. High school football. College seasons were ****ed up. The Olympics played in the wrong year missing a bunch of fans. NFL games that couldn’t show the crowd because it was virtually nobody there piping in crowd noise. That Super Bowl had about as many people as a Bulls game spread across a 75,000 Cedar Arena that was just set up to look for and had a bunch of fake noise. The nfc title game had 7000 people all spread out looking like an Oakland As game.

no more reason not to count the NBA championship than for some guy who won a gold medal without the crowd at that weird Olympics. You don’t let government regulation not count your achievements.

Especially when all the same people usually in contention won anyway. All that talk about it being weird and Lebron, Brady, Alabama football, and the Dodgers won the titles.

Lebron winning his 4th, Brady his 7th, Nick Saban his 7th(I think), and the big budget dodgers kinda suggest we got pretty normal results.

Not like the Pacers won at all or anything.

I feel like you just have to look past basketball. That was the whole world being weird for a while there. Things didn’t cease to exist. They just happened under different circumstances. You can only beat everybody else at the moment. The people during the Covid year couldn’t play anyone from 1983. You can only be the champion of your situation. Which is what all of them were. Cant be anything else.
The fact the usual suspects like Brady & Alabama were winning during that time is pretty damning :lol

Specifically in regards to the Lakers, they had been the 1 seed at the time, and just before the season was halted knocked off the Bucks & Clippers b2b games. So people acting like this 1 seed with 2 superstars winning the championship was some fluky result is hilarious.

[Wardell Curry]

So people acting like this 1 seed with 2 superstars winning the championship was some fluky result is hilarious.

You know exactly why that is.

[tpols]

You know exactly why that is.

Everybody knows the Clippers had their number with that defensive frontcourt of Kawhi and Paul George. :lol

I remember Lebron fans were rejoicing when Denver came back and won. Everybody knew LA would be champions at that point.

[SouBeachTalents]

Everybody knows the Clippers had their number with that defensive frontcourt of Kawhi and Paul George. :lol

I remember Lebron fans were rejoicing when Denver came back and won. Everybody knew LA would be champions at that point.
Had their number? They split the season series :lol It's kind of amazing how often you post incorrect information.

And no shit people would've preferred to play the Nuggets over the Clippers, who were the preseason title favorites with the reigning FMVP, over a Nuggets team with a pre peak Jokic.

[3ba11]

The Lakers had just pulled off the historic AD heist, so they were the only team that wanted to be there and cared about winning... So no

[Chick Stern]

Waste of a thread. 90% of people think it's legit, the only people who don't are Bron haters.


Everyone outside of the more intense Lebron haters considers it to be legit.

You’d have to have a complete micro peen to consider it not legit

[tpols]

Had their number? They split the season series :lol It's kind of amazing how often you post incorrect information.

And no shit people would've preferred to play the Nuggets over the Clippers, who were the preseason title favorites with the reigning FMVP, over a Nuggets team with a pre peak Jokic.

That's exactly what I'm saying. They got off easy with that and then the Finals matchup vs an 8 seed. Or 7 seed. Whatever the Heat were. Minus Bam to boot.

And like you said Clippers were the title favorites. Their choke was one of the worst of all time.

[Overdrive]

That's exactly what I'm saying. They got off easy with that and then the Finals matchup vs an 8 seed. Or 7 seed. Whatever the Heat were. Minus Bam to boot.

And like you said Clippers were the title favorites. Their choke was one of the worst of all time.

I don't like Lebron, but the ring is legit. Playoffs were played within the same format as usual. The only argument to be made is crowds not attenting and lack of travel, but that was the same for every team and crowds not attenting actually benefits lower seeds.

Most guys would swiftly change their stance if their team won.

[dankok8]

They faced weak opponents on their way to the title. If they had to beat the Clippers and Bucks, it would have been much tougher.

Nothing illegitimate about it though...

[sdot_thadon]

Of course it's legit. The argument could be made it's the most legit ever before even beginning to claim its not legit. I always look at it as the playoffs in a sterile lab environment. No fans, not homecourt, no outside distractions due to being locked in. Pure basketball without all the grandeur. Supposedly there were a few cons such as living quarters being below multi millionaire standards Lol and being separated from their families and friends (entourages and strip clubs for some) We also had one of the darkest times in African American history since the 60s playing out while on lockdown. Oh and a global pandemic where lots of lives were being lost at that point in history. And now just a few years down the road we act as if it never happened.

[Nowoco]

Of course it’s not legit. The NBA had to finish the season to satisfy the tv contracts they had and this was the only way to do it. No fans, no home court advantage, players not wanting to be there and out of shape. A total farce. Who ever talks about those playoffs? Who even remembers anything from them? Who’s ever seen a highlight from them? It’s like they never happened and have been airbrushed from history which says it all. The Lakers’ NBA Cup banner has more credence that the bubble scrimmage.

[RRR3]

Of course it’s not legit. The NBA had to finish the season to satisfy the tv contracts they had and this was the only way to do it. No fans, no home court advantage, players not wanting to be there and out of shape. A total farce. Who ever talks about those playoffs? Who even remembers anything from them? Who’s ever seen a highlight from them? It’s like they never happened and have been airbrushed from history which says it all. The Lakers’ NBA Cup banner has more credence that the bubble scrimmage.
Typing through the tears

[1987_Lakers]

Remember when people said it was a fake title because Miami made the Finals that year? Then Miami made the Finals again two years later? :lol

We had the same final 4 in 2022 as the bubble year.

Lakers were cruising that season, nobody was stopping them.

[Walk on Water]

1/2 a title at most

[Walk on Water]

Of course it's legit. The argument could be made it's the most legit ever before even beginning to claim its not legit. I always look at it as the playoffs in a sterile lab environment. No fans, not homecourt, no outside distractions due to being locked in. Pure basketball without all the grandeur. Supposedly there were a few cons such as living quarters being below multi millionaire standards Lol and being separated from their families and friends (entourages and strip clubs for some) We also had one of the darkest times in African American history since the 60s playing out while on lockdown. Oh and a global pandemic where lots of lives were being lost at that point in history. And now just a few years down the road we act as if it never happened.



Pure, delusional mental gymnastics

[tpols]

What does this even mean or reference?



We also had one of the darkest times in African American history since the 60s playing out while on lockdown.



:biggums:

What traumatized you on lock down because of race or culture or whatever that everybody else didn't experience?

[sdot_thadon]

What does this even mean or reference?




:biggums:

What traumatized you on lock down because of race or culture or whatever that everybody else didn't experience?

Oh so we also can conveniently cast aside the all the debate we had here about "black lives matter" and everything that led to it and how it was supposedly affecting interest in the product? Yes it was a dark time for African Americans, obviously you can't relate, for obvious reasons.

[sdot_thadon]

Pure, delusional mental gymnastics

The irony. If mental gymnastics was a person I imagine it'd be a retard that had terrible takes on Lebron similar to the bs ones you post here.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Nobody would even remember it if it wasn't Lebron and the Lakers. The thing is Lakers were legitimately good. It's a real shame we couldn't see a real playoffs that season. 4 month break, no fans, no home courts, no travel. Can't go in and out of the camp. Screens around the court. It was weird. It wasn't unfair but just not what it usually is. I remember Clippers almost deciding to leave before the playoffs because of no hoes(spoiled athletes smh).

[ArbitraryWater]

Dog they would have won again in 21 if AD doesnt go down

[tpols]

Dog they would have won again in 21 if AD doesnt go down

Tough to say since there were so many injuries in 2021 playoffs. The Nets were title odds favorites after spanking the Tatum Brown Celtics in the 1st round.

[SouBeachTalents]

Tough to say since there were so many injuries in 2021 playoffs. The Nets were title odds favorites after spanking the Tatum Brown Celtics in the 1st round.
Jaylen Brown missed that series, and was out several games, hence why they were the 7 seed.

You really do post incorrect information an astonishing amount of the time.

[tpols]

The Nets were still the odds favorites after that 1st round. And they were killing the Bucks in the 2nd before Kyrie went down. And of course Harden somehow got hurt at the beginning of that series too.

Despite that the Nets were a pinky toe away from beating the champion Bucks. Shows how strong they were and the odds reflected it.

[ArbitraryWater]

The Nets were still the odds favorites after that 1st round. And they were killing the Bucks in the 2nd before Kyrie went down. And of course Harden somehow got hurt at the beginning of that series too.

Despite that the Nets were a pinky toe away from beating the champion Bucks. Shows how strong they were and the odds reflected it.

still repeating that lie :lol

[sdot_thadon]

Tough to say since there were so many injuries in 2021 playoffs. The Nets were title odds favorites after spanking the Tatum Brown Celtics in the 1st round.

That'd be all nice and good if the Nets had made it to the finals but they didn't. He's saying the Lakers had a good chance of going back to back with AD healthy in that particular run. I see no lie.

[tpols]

That'd be all nice and good if the Nets had made it to the finals but they didn't. He's saying the Lakers had a good chance of going back to back with AD healthy in that particular run. I see no lie.

The Lakers didn't make it to the Finals either. Both Nets and Lakers only made 2nd round in 2021.

[SouBeachTalents]

The Lakers didn't make it to the Finals either. Both Nets and Lakers only made 2nd round in 2021.
The Lakers lost in the first round to the Suns in 2021.

[RRR3]

The Lakers lost in the first round to the Suns in 2021.
Given how often tpols literally doesn't know what happens in the NBA (even basic stuff), it's bizarre he expects anyone to take his opinions with any seriousness.

[guy]

Not really. And I don’t really understand the argument that it is since everyone was under the same circumstance. So? It’s not about level of difficulty. It’s about the fact that there’s been 70+ other playoffs in history and none of them were remotely close to similar to these playoffs. No crowds, no travel, no traditional media interactions, no personal life distractions and starting right after a 5 month vacation from playing? That’s not the playoffs. It’s almost like a completely different tournament, like the NBA Cup. If they had called it the Disney Lockdown NBA Invitational instead of the NBA playoffs, no one would be calling the winner the NBA champion.

[sdot_thadon]

The Lakers didn't make it to the Finals either. Both Nets and Lakers only made 2nd round in 2021.

And they are saying an AD injury kept them from a chip that year. He went down in 20 min of game 4 , missed Game 5, and stepped in for a few min in game 6 before leaving again for good.

[sdot_thadon]

Not really. And I don’t really understand the argument that it is since everyone was under the same circumstance. So? It’s not about level of difficulty. It’s about the fact that there’s been 70+ other playoffs in history and none of them were remotely close to similar to these playoffs. No crowds, no travel, no traditional media interactions, no personal life distractions and starting right after a 5 month vacation from playing? That’s not the playoffs. It’s almost like a completely different tournament, like the NBA Cup. If they had called it the Disney Lockdown NBA Invitational instead of the NBA playoffs, no one would be calling the winner the NBA champion.

It's the playoffs the circumstances of the world allowed at that moment. It's like all you guys got amnesia and can't remember what the pandemic was like. It wasn't that long ago. The entire world was a different place for a little while, so of course the NBA was too. I was just happy they played to give us a small escape from what was happening around us in 2020.

[warriorfan]

Not really. And I don’t really understand the argument that it is since everyone was under the same circumstance. So? It’s not about level of difficulty. It’s about the fact that there’s been 70+ other playoffs in history and none of them were remotely close to similar to these playoffs. No crowds, no travel, no traditional media interactions, no personal life distractions and starting right after a 5 month vacation from playing? That’s not the playoffs. It’s almost like a completely different tournament, like the NBA Cup. If they had called it the Disney Lockdown NBA Invitational instead of the NBA playoffs, no one would be calling the winner the NBA champion.

This is actually a very poignant post. Sums up the thread well.

[John8204]

The Lakers didn't make it to the Finals either. Both Nets and Lakers only made 2nd round in 2021.

But they did make the Conference Finals in 2022...which to be frank if you make the top four you've had a successful season. I think fandom can be a bit toxic but in reality your a successful team if you make it finals of either conference.

[dankok8]

The 2020 Lakers were lucky to avoid the Clippers and Bucks. Instead they faced several weak teams including some that were injured to boot. It's perfectly ok to doubt the 2020 Lakers because they had an easy path to a championship. However it's still legit like any other title run. Other all-time greats also had some easy runs so it's ok to call a spade a spade.

[1987_Lakers]

The 2020 Lakers were lucky to avoid the Clippers and Bucks. Instead they faced several weak teams including some that were injured to boot. It's perfectly ok to doubt the 2020 Lakers because they had an easy path to a championship. However it's still legit like any other title run. Other all-time greats also had some easy runs so it's ok to call a spade a spade.

They did play in the bubble. LeBron hit the game winner while shutting down Kawhi & PG13 in the last possession of the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-emefKGzFc

[dankok8]

They did play in the bubble. LeBron hit the game winner while shutting down Kawhi & PG13 in the last possession of the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-emefKGzFc

That's the RS.

[tpols]

What was Lebrons playoff record vs Kawhi? And that wasn't even prime Kawhi. Everybody has seen the gif between the two when Lebron was at the FT line. :lol Some guys just have other guys numbers.

[1987_Lakers]

That's the RS.

This still happened in the bubble

Clippers didn't have the mentality to be in the bubble, bunch of Clippers came out and stated how bored/depressed they were during the whole thing. While LeBron mentally willed his team to the title.

No coincidence the mentally strong players like Butler & LeBron were the last two standing.