trump green-lights the ethnic cleansing of gaza

[diamenz]

first off, netanyahu gifting trump a golden pager for the entire world to see was so beyond diabolical and couldn't have made it any more clear who is really in charge. netanyahu walked trump like a dog around his own white house yesterday and sent a clear message that the israel lobby has this man on a leash. what a spectacle. akin to a ventriloquist show - trump was the puppet and the puppet master was netanyahu.

so what's trump's plan for gaza? you heard it straight from the horse's mouth. it's the absolute ANTITHESIS of america-first.

not only is our apparent plan to go full blown 'bush & cheney on steroids' by invading, occupying and cleaning up bibi's sixteen month mess in gaza but we will, like the good dogs of the israel lobby that we are, drive 1.8 million people out of their homeland. :lol so not only will you, the american taxpayer, fund this impossible comedic nonsense but our young service men & women will go over there and DIE for our so precious ally in an attempt to finish the job that they couldn't. and yes - soldiers will DIE because you'd be a flailing fool to think that hamas, a terrorist organization that have according to anthony blinkin, have not at all dwindled in numbers since oct 7th but have rather since INCREASED their ranks; are not going to go quietly into the night and allow their their people to be effectively sent off into the museum for future generations to look upon what USED to be the people of palestine.

and send them (palestinians) where? according to trump, into the arms of egypt and jordan or at the least into the barren sinai desert to rot. btw of which is the most comedic shit i've ever heard because the possibility of these countries bringing in TWO MILLION refugees would end in their governments being overthrown and their already overcrowded infrastructure crumbling under the weight of these newcomers - it's logistically impossible. therefore the possibility of this ultimately happening would pose as an existential threat to these states and no amount of empty threats from us would convince them otherwise.

so one of two things will happen. either trump will back off this fairytale plan to invade, occupy and rebuild gaza for the zionists to ultimately annex as part of the already-in-motion greater israel project; or we (you and i) will spend trillions more in a decades-long war that will see masses of US service men & women dead, gravely wounded, deformed and left as disabled amputees at the hands of our beloved ally israel.

america first brothers... sorry but you got played and i don't blame you for your outrage - you didn't vote for this. nor did you vote for another inflation from tariffs and a war on our own borders with the mexican cartels. trillions more in spending and more masses of dead americans for a foreign nation that serves NONE of our interests. anyway, welcome to nakba 2.0.

tldr

[highwhey]

i am very interested to hear the perspective of die hard MAGA fans like patrickchewing and others alike.

as i said before the election, trump would fold to israel interests. it does not matter who is in the white house, america always does as ordered by israel.

"Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory” - Pat Buchanan

[highwhey]

tbh, it was netanyahu sitting down while trump waited behind him to scoot in his chair that did it for me :lol

i still remember MAGAs reposting the gif of trump asserting dominance over saudi royals with his firm hand shake where he pulled them in, but you won't hear a PEEP about netanyahu showing the world who is the ALPHA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1-VYTjKNc

[diamenz]

tbh, it was netanyahu sitting down while trump waited behind him to scoot in his chair that did it for me :lol

i still remember MAGAs reposting the gif of trump asserting dominance over saudi royals with his firm hand shake where he pulled them in, but you won't hear a PEEP about netanyahu showing the world who is the ALPHA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1-VYTjKNc

wow i hadn't seen that footage. unreal. you'd think trump would yank netanyahu forward as he greeted and shook his hand the way he did nato leaders during his first term asserting his dominance but here he is waiting at the feet of bibi. it couldn't be any clearer who's running things. what an absolute embarrassment and a sad day for america.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah let’s give Gaza back to Hamas. That’s worked out for them so well already.

Yawn. Such fake outrage here. OP wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs lol.

[diamenz]

Yeah let’s give Gaza back to Hamas. That’s worked out for them so well already.

Yawn. Such fake outrage here. OP wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs lol.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg

[Media Moderator]

Yeah I don't know about this one Trump. He's going to have to sell me more on this. Either kill em all or let Israel and them hash it out. But no nation building in the middle east. Outside of Israel, the people are savages. IMO it won't work

[diamenz]

Yeah I don't know about this one Trump. He's going to have to sell me more on this. Either kill em all or let Israel and them hash it out. But no nation building in the middle east. Outside of Israel, the people are savages. IMO it won't work

a-*ucking men.

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/699/pepe.jpg

You can’t use my Copium frog thing.

[highwhey]

Yeah let’s give Gaza back to Hamas. That’s worked out for them so well already.

Yawn. Such fake outrage here. OP wrote paragraphs upon paragraphs lol.

your mental gymnastics are strong 400. you will not acknowledge that netanyahu came to the white house, took a piss all over the oval office to mark his territory and still got trump to bend the knee to him. :ohwell:

[rawimpact]

Nope Nope Nope... gtfo of the middle east. Not our war... and I'm tired of having to deal with the terrorist crap that comes along with our meddling.

[j3lademaster]

Nothing in the budget for this kind of bullshit. Needs to be all hands on deck for the ai race, it’s all or nothing.

[jstern]

As a Trump expert, Trump knows full well that he's powerless, specially after his 4 years are up. He understands people in power, and that if they could, they would slaughter a trillion people (times infinity) for their own benefit, and sleep like a baby afterward, and there's nothing that can be done about that. So he is looking at both outcomes, and he is literally trying to save their lives, even if it means having to leave their homes for good. Trump, also being very media savvy, is also, repeatedly mentioning, 1.8 million Palestinian, in front of Netanyahu, communicating to the world that he has killed 300,000 people. Netanyahu looks uncomfortable. The end goal for Trump, who's not a psychopath in power, (like a Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, and most people in the highest spots in power) is more important to him than public perception.

[Off the Court]

Trump is also about to make a deal with Zelensky worth "hundreds of billions of dollars" in war aid in exchange for Ukraine Earth minerals.

He was supposed to bring a rapid end to that war.

[Patrick Chewing]

your mental gymnastics are strong 400. you will not acknowledge that netanyahu came to the white house, took a piss all over the oval office to mark his territory and still got trump to bend the knee to him. :ohwell:

What a degenerate mind you have, fats.

[diamenz]

Trump is also about to make a deal with Zelensky worth "hundreds of billions of dollars" in war aid in exchange for Ukraine Earth minerals.

He was supposed to bring a rapid end to that war.

i'm disappointed about that. he needs to stop buddyiing up to zelensky and stop the flow of military aid, give putin what he wants and spare what's left of the state of ukraine.

[Media Moderator]

i'm disappointed about that. he needs to stop buddyiing up to zelensky and stop the flow of military aid, give putin what he wants and spare what's left of the state of ukraine.

Brutal reality but that's what needs to happen. ****ing Putin, I thought his dumb ass would have taken the parts of Ukraine he wanted already. Russian toughness my ass

[Jasper]

first off, netanyahu gifting trump a golden pager for the entire world to see was so beyond diabolical and couldn't have made it any more clear who is really in charge. netanyahu walked trump like a dog around his own white house yesterday and sent a clear message that the israel lobby has this man on a leash. what a spectacle. akin to a ventriloquist show - trump was the puppet and the puppet master was netanyahu.

so what's trump's plan for gaza? you heard it straight from the horse's mouth. it's the absolute ANTITHESIS of america-first.

not only is our apparent plan to go full blown 'bush & cheney on steroids' by invading, occupying and cleaning up bibi's sixteen month mess in gaza but we will, like the good dogs of the israel lobby that we are, drive 1.8 million people out of their homeland. :lol so not only will you, the american taxpayer, fund this impossible comedic nonsense but our young service men & women will go over there and DIE for our so precious ally in an attempt to finish the job that they couldn't. and yes - soldiers will DIE because you'd be a flailing fool to think that hamas, a terrorist organization that have according to anthony blinkin, have not at all dwindled in numbers since oct 7th but have rather since INCREASED their ranks; are not going to go quietly into the night and allow their their people to be effectively sent off into the museum for future generations to look upon what USED to be the people of palestine.

and send them (palestinians) where? according to trump, into the arms of egypt and jordan or at the least into the barren sinai desert to rot. btw of which is the most comedic shit i've ever heard because the possibility of these countries bringing in TWO MILLION refugees would end in their governments being overthrown and their already overcrowded infrastructure crumbling under the weight of these newcomers - it's logistically impossible. therefore the possibility of this ultimately happening would pose as an existential threat to these states and no amount of empty threats from us would convince them otherwise.

so one of two things will happen. either trump will back off this fairytale plan to invade, occupy and rebuild gaza for the zionists to ultimately annex as part of the already-in-motion greater israel project; or we (you and i) will spend trillions more in a decades-long war that will see masses of US service men & women dead, gravely wounded, deformed and left as disabled amputees at the hands of our beloved ally israel.

america first brothers... sorry but you got played and i don't blame you for your outrage - you didn't vote for this. nor did you vote for another inflation from tariffs and a war on our own borders with the mexican cartels. trillions more in spending and more masses of dead americans for a foreign nation that serves NONE of our interests. anyway, welcome to nakba 2.0.

tldr

you voted for this bum. ( he also said he would take a nlgger over a latino ) go figure

[ArbitraryWater]

i am very interested to hear the perspective of die hard MAGA fans like patrickchewing and others alike.

as i said before the election, trump would fold to israel interests. it does not matter who is in the white house, america always does as ordered by israel.

"Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory” - Pat Buchanan


People are hoping that Trump is saving Israel for last :lol


His final card. His greatest trick.


Draining the swamp at last.


But, I dont think so... :lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Rrr3 meanwhile: Its America that controls Israel!



lol, imagine being so oblivious

[diamenz]

Rrr3 meanwhile: Its America that controls Israel!



lol, imagine being so oblivious

does he really believe that? jesus what a tranny.

[86Celtics]

Brutal reality but that's what needs to happen. ****ing Putin, I thought his dumb ass would have taken the parts of Ukraine he wanted already. Russian toughness my ass

Putin is a fascist, magalomaniac dictator who wants to place Eastern Europe under Russia's yoke again. There is no giving him what he wants. He'll take Ukraine's most prosperous territories, rebuild his inadequate military and attack again on a wider scale in a few years, aided and abetted by the orange turd's dismantling of NATO.

Biden should have gone all in to defeat the Russian orcs. By limiting US assistance, he only managed to kick the can down the road.

[ArbitraryWater]

does he really believe that? jesus what a tranny.


Hes in denial big time.


Sad.

[Lebron23]

tbh, it was netanyahu sitting down while trump waited behind him to scoot in his chair that did it for me :lol

i still remember MAGAs reposting the gif of trump asserting dominance over saudi royals with his firm hand shake where he pulled them in, but you won't hear a PEEP about netanyahu showing the world who is the ALPHA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj1-VYTjKNc

What's the name of the sound track?

[John8204]

Just to be clear the people getting "ethnically cleansed" is the state that invaded another nation, did so out of uniform (illegal), targeted women and children (illegal), took hostages (illegal), raped those hostages (illegal), tortured men women and children(illegal). And we want Israel to just be okay with it...no justice or security. Sorry I'm not on that side.

I understand we don't want to displace the people in Gaza, but Israel can not continue to fight a proxy war with a nation that doesn't honor the rules of war.

We all know state lines need to get redrawn in the Middle East, but the military industrial complex is to powerful and too much money is being made.

[highwhey]

Just to be clear the people getting "ethnically cleansed" is the state that invaded another nation, did so out of uniform (illegal), targeted women and children (illegal), took hostages (illegal), raped those hostages (illegal), tortured men women and children(illegal). And we want Israel to just be okay with it...no justice or security. Sorry I'm not on that side.

I understand we don't want to displace the people in Gaza, but Israel can not continue to fight a proxy war with a nation that doesn't honor the rules of war.

We all know state lines need to get redrawn in the Middle East, but the military industrial complex is to powerful and too much money is being made.
OK ZIONIST. stop reading right there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsK7noLGOM

because picking off children after you've already bombed them is totally honoring the rules of war. the IDF has killed far more people since the october attack, they're no longer seeking revenge, they're seeking total destruction and elimination. half the people they have bombed to death are women, children and elderly people. so they're doing what hamas did to them at a 10x factor rate. they're not even giving a shit that only half their targets are militant aged males. please spare me the morality of a war with NONE from both sides.

[StickyWice]

you voted for this bum. ( he also said he would take a nlgger over a latino ) go figure

Who would not? We owe lot to them for how we build this country. Mexis just ruin with drugs

[John8204]

OK ZIONIST. stop reading right there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsK7noLGOM

because picking off children after you've already bombed them is totally honoring the rules of war. the IDF has killed far more people since the october attack, they're no longer seeking revenge, they're seeking total destruction and elimination. half the people they have bombed to death are women, children and elderly people. so they're doing what hamas did to them at a 10x factor rate. they're not even giving a shit that only half their targets are militant aged males. please spare me the morality of a war with NONE from both sides.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINcC0GImyc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_oTVyrdxE

You don't get to cry about the poor innocent victims when your state sponsored a campaign of rape and murder of women and children. It's sad that bombings are happening but where is the international communities engaging in the money to occupy and return the hostages?

I don't know what you think the exchange rate is for going into another country and setting an 8 year olds on fire and raping women for months on end but yeah I don't think you get to keep your land after that.

Also by the way where was all this indignity when Muslims were doing this to other Muslims. I don't recall much protests when Turkey displaced the Kurds during the first Trump admin.

[highwhey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINcC0GImyc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_oTVyrdxE

You don't get to cry about the poor innocent victims when your state sponsored a campaign of rape and murder of women and children. It's sad that bombings are happening but where is the international communities engaging in the money to occupy and return the hostages?

I don't know what you think the exchange rate is for going into another country and setting an 8 year olds on fire and raping women for months on end but yeah I don't think you get to keep your land after that.

Also by the way where was all this indignity when Muslims were doing this to other Muslims. I don't recall much protests when Turkey displaced the Kurds during the first Trump admin.

sounds like a major hamas problem, not palestinian.

[John8204]

sounds like a major hamas problem, not palestinian.

It's a international problem, a problem that the international community has elected to not do anything about. What happened on October 7th was the worst series of atrocities since the Rape of Nanking. The leaders of Gaza (Hamas) went into another country went house to house and burned them to the ground with children inside. They took women and raped, mutilated, and murdered them...and they are still likely doing such. The international community could take refugees from the region...they aren't. The international community could interject in the region go house by house and recover the hostages...they aren't. What we are seeing is the international community expecting the Jews to go house to house to try and rescue the victims and they are not doing that. Israel wants to do away with Gaza, plenty of states could take in the refugees like Egypt or Iran and they won't.

Palestine exists...they still have the west bank but Gaza can not. No other country in the world would have accepted what Hamas did

[highwhey]

It's a international problem, a problem that the international community has elected to not do anything about. What happened on October 7th was the worst series of atrocities since the Rape of Nanking. The leaders of Gaza (Hamas) went into another country went house to house and burned them to the ground with children inside. They took women and raped, mutilated, and murdered them...and they are still likely doing such. The international community could take refugees from the region...they aren't. The international community could interject in the region go house by house and recover the hostages...they aren't. What we are seeing is the international community expecting the Jews to go house to house to try and rescue the victims and they are not doing that. Israel wants to do away with Gaza, plenty of states could take in the refugees like Egypt or Iran and they won't.

Palestine exists...they still have the west bank but Gaza can not. No other country in the world would have accepted what Hamas did

first off, israel has been killing innocent palestinians for decades. if you beat on a person daily for decades, do you just expect them to roll over and allow it? it's a western hemisphere philosophy to believe so. to think that sending drones to bomb militant targets with zero regard for casualties is fine. it's that same philosophy that keeps this cycle going because a kid seeing his parents house bombed to shreds, including his mom, grandma, siblings all gone in an instant, creates this cycle of violence that just keeps going. then you add the indoctrination of extremists into the mix and you have october 7. again, spare me the morality of this. women were raped? that's very unfortunate. the guy that did it probably has a sibling that was shot as a kid because he threw a rock at an israeli tank and some IDF soldier thought it would be entertaining to put one in a kid's dome, since they see everyone else as sub-human and beneath them. it's not just the conflict, it's a fundamental believe problem from both hamas and israelis. the western world doesn't want to acknowledge that israelis literally believe everyone else is subhuman, including you and i, doesn't matter if you're white or brown.

[John8204]

I don't care what jews think of me, it's not really the point to go around and act like it's only an atrocity if we like the people who did it or they believe in different gods.

The issue is Islamic doctrine says if you don't believe in Islam in my way I have a right to murder you. And what's worse is it's not just Islam but you have to believe in a specific form of Islam or else I have a right to murder you..and rape you and if you are an 8 year old set you on fire. But if you are lucky perhaps we'll behead you first.

Attrocities occur in the middle east all the time, that World Cup in QATAR was done with slave labour. People brought in from India had their passports taken, money cut in half and some murdered because they weren't given the basics to live. ISIS went from town to town and threw homosexuals off roots. They would execute people by burying them up to their necks in the sand and runing them over with tanks...they did this for fun.

You say you are sorry women were rapped...no your grammar is off women are currently being sexually assaulted and have been for over a year. It's something that will be publicized when the hostages are returned and just been talked about quietly during these negotiations.

Civilians are being murdered in Gaza because the government uses civilian areas for military purposes. They also don't wear uniforms which is something you need to do when at war...which is what they've been with Israel for the last 70 years.

We went into another country claimed they had weapons of mass destruction and murdered a million people in Iraq. And nobody suffered any consequences for that.

[highwhey]

I don't care what jews think of me, it's not really the point to go around and act like it's only an atrocity if we like the people who did it or they believe in different gods.

The issue is Islamic doctrine says if you don't believe in Islam in my way I have a right to murder you. And what's worse is it's not just Islam but you have to believe in a specific form of Islam or else I have a right to murder you..and rape you and if you are an 8 year old set you on fire. But if you are lucky perhaps we'll behead you first.

Attrocities occur in the middle east all the time, that World Cup in QATAR was done with slave labour. People brought in from India had their passports taken, money cut in half and some murdered because they weren't given the basics to live. ISIS went from town to town and threw homosexuals off roots. They would execute people by burying them up to their necks in the sand and runing them over with tanks...they did this for fun.

You say you are sorry women were rapped...no your grammar is off women are currently being sexually assaulted and have been for over a year. It's something that will be publicized when the hostages are returned and just been talked about quietly during these negotiations.

Civilians are being murdered in Gaza because the government uses civilian areas for military purposes. They also don't wear uniforms which is something you need to do when at war...which is what they've been with Israel for the last 70 years.

We went into another country claimed they had weapons of mass destruction and murdered a million people in Iraq. And nobody suffered any consequences for that.

and now we're backing every play by the IDF, should tell you everything you need to know about common moralities of war and allowable casualties between amerikkka and the IDF. it does not however set a precedent excusing the IDF for their horrendous war crimes.

and you don't have to care what the juice think about you, but you should acknowledge that their doctrine isn't that dissimilar to the extremist Muslim's.

[ArbitraryWater]

I don't care what jews think of me, it's not really the point to go around and act like it's only an atrocity if we like the people who did it or they believe in different gods.

The issue is Islamic doctrine says if you don't believe in Islam in my way I have a right to murder you. And what's worse is it's not just Islam but you have to believe in a specific form of Islam or else I have a right to murder you..and rape you and if you are an 8 year old set you on fire. But if you are lucky perhaps we'll behead you first.

Attrocities occur in the middle east all the time, that World Cup in QATAR was done with slave labour. People brought in from India had their passports taken, money cut in half and some murdered because they weren't given the basics to live. ISIS went from town to town and threw homosexuals off roots. They would execute people by burying them up to their necks in the sand and runing them over with tanks...they did this for fun.

You say you are sorry women were rapped...no your grammar is off women are currently being sexually assaulted and have been for over a year. It's something that will be publicized when the hostages are returned and just been talked about quietly during these negotiations.

Civilians are being murdered in Gaza because the government uses civilian areas for military purposes. They also don't wear uniforms which is something you need to do when at war...which is what they've been with Israel for the last 70 years.

We went into another country claimed they had weapons of mass destruction and murdered a million people in Iraq. And nobody suffered any consequences for that.


son every hostage returned by hamas is in good shape. some even had gifts with them.

all the idf hostages look like auschwitz prisoners. worse even because theyre deformed, you can see they get beaten every day, where as auschwitz was just malnutrioned.


And you dont know anything about the Talmud son.

[jstern]

OK ZIONIST. stop reading right there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsK7noLGOM

because picking off children after you've already bombed them is totally honoring the rules of war. the IDF has killed far more people since the october attack, they're no longer seeking revenge, they're seeking total destruction and elimination. half the people they have bombed to death are women, children and elderly people. so they're doing what hamas did to them at a 10x factor rate. they're not even giving a shit that only half their targets are militant aged males. please spare me the morality of a war with NONE from both sides.

John8204 is repeating misinformation, stuff that was completely debunked, that he probably heard on CNN, and that the media would never correct. Which is very similar to Trump reporting. Say outrageous things, present them as fact, never retract and just continue pushing it as if it's true. (Which in turn, even Trump supporters believe it years later, even if they still support him.). And in John8204's case, justify it to kill tens of thousands of civilians. (Probably more, since only bodies that reach the morgue get counted.)

You could easily call them out, but that would require a good memory, good recall, and most importantly, curiosity about the subject. Memory and recall is a human limitation, there's nothing that can be done about that, that's why actually being curious about the subject is important. If all you care is about owning the other side, then you're not going to have that curiosity to actually seek and call out the truth.

[highwhey]

John8204 is repeating misinformation, stuff that was completely debunked, that he probably heard on CNN, and that the media would never correct. Which is very similar to Trump reporting. Say outrageous things, present them as fact, never retract and just continue pushing it as if it's true. (Which in turn, even Trump supporters believe it years later, even if they still support him.). And in John8204's case, justify it to kill tens of thousands of civilians. (Probably more, since only bodies that reach the morgue get counted.)

You could easily call them out, but that would require a good memory, good recall, and most importantly, curiosity about the subject. Memory and recall is a human limitation, there's nothing that can be done about that, that's why actually being curious about the subject is important. If all you care is about owning the other side, then you're not going to have that curiosity to actually seek and call out the truth.

thanks chatgpt

[Patrick Chewing]

first off, israel has been killing innocent palestinians for decades.

No, they have not. /thread

[ArbitraryWater]

No, they have not. /thread

How can you possibly be in such a fake reality? :lol

Taking denial to a whole other level

Take it from your boy:
https://streamable.com/84coru
https://x.com/Nadira_ali12/status/1804112025020436486

[diamenz]

@john8204

bro please stop spreading misinformation aside from your opinions and perspectives because damn near everything you said, like jstern said, is either blatantly false, israeli/american propaganda or has already been debunked throughout the course of this conflict (as it relates to the paat sixteen months).

i didn't think you could do any worse but the shit you spewed in this thread is even more frustrating than when you open your mouth on the ukraine war bro please just stop, i beg of you, for the sake of sanity and whatever face you have left to save.

[highwhey]

No, they have not. /thread

you also look in the mirror and tell yourself that you DON'T weigh 400 POUNDS

[diamenz]

https://i.ibb.co/8LkwKSmy/HgUZf.jpg

[Media Moderator]

Hamas said they are not releasing any more hostages. Please please Trump let's not get sucked into this mess. Let Israel be the "bad guy" and let them go alone down the bloody path of extracting hostages, killing their captors and unfortunately anyone else that gets in the way

[John8204]

@john8204

bro please stop spreading misinformation aside from your opinions and perspectives because damn near everything you said, like jstern said, is either blatantly false, israeli/american propaganda or has already been debunked throughout the course of this conflict (as it relates to the paat sixteen months).

i didn't think you could do any worse but the shit you spewed in this thread is even more frustrating than when you open your mouth on the ukraine war bro please just stop, i beg of you, for the sake of sanity and whatever face you have left to save.

https://saturday-october-seven.com/

It's kind of amazing to me how what I said was worse than a group of people who raped women and murdered babies. Oh I'm sorry are those fake photos because they sure look pretty real to me.

You can't just say oh those rape accusations were debunked like it's a magic wand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTY_BaTsjI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyL8UTArbzA

To call this propaganda is disgusting, these are the testimonies of victims. How dare you call them liars who the hell do you think you are. What evidence do you have that these women are lying.

[diamenz]

https://saturday-october-seven.com/

It's kind of amazing to me how what I said was worse than a group of people who raped women and murdered babies. Oh I'm sorry are those fake photos because they sure look pretty real to me.

You can't just say oh those rape accusations were debunked like it's a magic wand


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdTY_BaTsjI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyL8UTArbzA

To call this propaganda is disgusting, these are the testimonies of victims. How dare you call them liars who the hell do you think you are. What evidence do you have that these women are lying.

i was speaking in regard to decapitated babies, babies in ovens along with a few other extreme accusations that i can't remember off the top of my head have either been disproved, debunked or to this day have shown zero evidence of ever happening. i guess i should have been clearer.

it's all terrorism though, full stop and i condemn it 100% but it should have come as no surprise that it happened. it was just a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

[diamenz]

Hamas said they are not releasing any more hostages. Please please Trump let's not get sucked into this mess. Let Israel be the "bad guy" and let them go alone down the bloody path of extracting hostages, killing their captors and unfortunately anyone else that gets in the way

i doubt it will end up happening. israel couldn't get the job done and there's no reason to believe our efforts would be any different short of nuking the place. these people (the palestinians) aren't going to go quietly and the optics of us putting troops on the ground to drive them (civilians) out of their land and homes would never fly despite how uninformed and gullible most americans are - not in the age of technology and social media, anyway.

in addition to that, egypt and jordan couldn't take these people even if they wanted to - they don't have the infrastructure to support it and the populations would overthrow their governments. if somehow we were successful in ethnically cleansing these people, they'd end up in the middle of the sinai desert with nowhere to go and we'd be left holding the bag as far as their welfare.

[John8204]

i was speaking in regard to decapitated babies, babies in ovens along with a few other extreme accusations that i can't remember off the top of my head have either been disproved, debunked or to this day have shown zero evidence of ever happening. i guess i should have been clearer.

it's all terrorism though, full stop and i condemn it 100% but it should have come as no surprise that it happened. it was just a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.


@john8204

bro please stop spreading misinformation aside from your opinions and perspectives because damn near everything you said, like jstern said, is either blatantly false, israeli/american propaganda or has already been debunked throughout the course of this conflict (as it relates to the paat sixteen months).

i didn't think you could do any worse but the shit you spewed in this thread is even more frustrating than when you open your mouth on the ukraine war bro please just stop, i beg of you, for the sake of sanity and whatever face you have left to save.

Where did I say they threw babies in ovens? They did burn people alive I saw those photos they sure didn't look fake to me. The reality is we don't know everything that's happened to those victims of October 7th because Hamas is keeping them hostage but I'll say this I'm going to believe a woman that comes out of that situation and says she was raped. I'm not going to say that a victim of October 7th is lying.

[Patrick Chewing]

i doubt it will end up happening. israel couldn't get the job done and there's no reason to believe our efforts would be any different short of nuking the place. these people (the palestinians) aren't going to go quietly and the optics of us putting troops on the ground to drive them (civilians) out of their land and homes would never fly despite how uninformed and gullible most americans are - not in the age of technology and social media, anyway.

in addition to that, egypt and jordan couldn't take these people even if they wanted to - they don't have the infrastructure to support it and the populations would overthrow their governments. if somehow we were successful in ethnically cleansing these people, they'd end up in the middle of the sinai desert with nowhere to go and we'd be left holding the bag as far as their welfare.

Those countries could definitely take them. They just don’t want to.

[diamenz]

Those countries could definitely take them. They just don’t want to.

no patrick, they couldn't. their already overcrowded infrastructures would collapse, especially egypt. jordan has already taken vast numbers of refugees. a sudden influx of two million people would be too much to bear. because this supposed ethnic cleansing operation poses an existential threat to these countries, they would never agree to or bow to any threats made by the us conceding to these demands.

you're right in that their governments don't want them and could care less about their survival or welfare.

[diamenz]

Where did I say they threw babies in ovens? They did burn people alive I saw those photos they sure didn't look fake to me. The reality is we don't know everything that's happened to those victims of October 7th because Hamas is keeping them hostage but I'll say this I'm going to believe a woman that comes out of that situation and says she was raped. I'm not going to say that a victim of October 7th is lying.

neither will i, but make fact-based conclusions. as it stands right now according to the evidence, my previous comment on extreme accusations still stands.

[Doomsday Dallas]

We need to just nuke Israel off the map, apologize to God, and call it a day.

[Media Moderator]

no patrick, they couldn't. their already overcrowded infrastructures would collapse, especially egypt. jordan has already taken vast numbers of refugees. a sudden influx of two million people would be too much to bear.

The Democrats say the US can easily bear adding 2% of our population in illegal immigrants that came under Biden plus even more. I don't see why Egypt and Jordan can't take an additional 2% of their population if we help them

[diamenz]

The Democrats say the US can easily bear adding 2% of our population in illegal immigrants that came under Biden plus even more. I don't see why Egypt and Jordan can't take an additional 2% of their population if we help them

two completely different scenarios my man with two entirely different sets of variables.

and i hate to put you on the spot here because i respect you (being one of the small handful of conservatives here that's demonstrated the ability to think for themselves and not just run with the herd) but you sounded adamantly against this just the other day and now it sounds like you're starting to consider it.

this supposed 'plan' is the absolute antithesis of being america first bro. buying gaza with our tax dollars and sending our boys over to commit nakba/trail of tears/armenian genocide 2.0 and then nation build on behalf of another nation that does nothing for us but get us into trouble i swear to god any right winger that isn't calling this shit out for what it is i don't wanna hear shit you have to say on any *ucking subject if you're running with this trash or you'd better have a damn good explanation for it.

[Patrick Chewing]

We need to just nuke ISLAM off the map, apologize to God, and call it a day.

ftfy

[Patrick Chewing]

two completely different scenarios my man with two entirely different sets of variables.

and i hate to put you on the spot here because i respect you (being one of the small handful of conservatives here that's demonstrated the ability to think for themselves and not just run with the herd) but you sounded adamantly against this just the other day and now it sounds like you're starting to consider it.

this supposed 'plan' is the absolute antithesis of being america first bro. buying gaza with our tax dollars and sending our boys over to commit nakba/trail of tears/armenian genocide 2.0 and then nation build on behalf of another nation that does nothing for us but get us into trouble i swear to god any right winger that isn't calling this shit out for what it is i don't wanna hear shit you have to say on any *ucking subject if you're running with this trash or you'd better have a damn good explanation for it.

You're talking about things that have no basis in reality. No one, whether it be Trump, or anyone in his administration has intimated this at all. You're being excessively exaggerative and for no good reason at all.


It's very simple and it has happened throughout history. Gaza is run by terrorist filth and they must be eradicated and Gaza can then be rebuilt. Look at Japan. Look at Germany. Why is Gaza the exception? All this excessive and gross defense over a shithole of a country has got to stop. It's pathetic. These people refuse progress. And as crazy as the idea sounds, Trump is trying to bring progress to that region.

[diamenz]

You're talking about things that have no basis in reality. No one, whether it be Trump, or anyone in his administration has intimated this at all. You're being excessively exaggerative and for no good reason at all.


It's very simple and it has happened throughout history. Gaza is run by terrorist filth and they must be eradicated and Gaza can then be rebuilt. Look at Japan. Look at Germany. Why is Gaza the exception? All this excessive and gross defense over a shithole of a country has got to stop. It's pathetic. These people refuse progress. And as crazy as the idea sounds, Trump is trying to bring progress to that region.

nope - not buying it. not convinced.

nothing was exaggerated. rewind the tape on the day of bibi's visit to the wh. rewind the tape on the day of the air force one press conference. all of the pieces of the puzzle are there for anyone with a triple digit iq to put together. not even that - trump said it all straight up as he always does. either you're a braindead npc flag-waving partisan hack or you're in complete and utter denial.

if you're maga and you're making excuses for this you've lost all your credibility.

[diamenz]

not on my tax dollar. israel can handle their own business, at this point in the war especially. let them clean up their own *ucking mess. #MAGA

[highwhey]

not on my tax dollar. israel can handle their own business, at this point in the war especially. let them clean up their own *ucking mess. #MAGA

#americaFIRSTbutalsobehindIsraelsotechnically2nd

[Patrick Chewing]

nope - not buying it. not convinced.

nothing was exaggerated. rewind the tape on the day of bibi's visit to the wh. rewind the tape on the day of the air force one press conference. all of the pieces of the puzzle are there for anyone with a triple digit iq to put together. not even that - trump said it all straight up as he always does. either you're a braindead npc flag-waving partisan hack or you're in complete and utter denial.

if you're maga and you're making excuses for this you've lost all your credibility.

Nowhere did Trump say they were invading Gaza, putting troops on the ground, or paying for its renovation at the expense of the American taxpayer. We can go around in circles here, but you're being an alarmist for no reason.

[Patrick Chewing]

#americaFIRSTbutalsobehindIsraelsotechnically2nd

Sheeeeeeeeeeeit as if you give a good goddamn about America. You know damn well it's Mexico first for you. As a matter of fact, it's probably Mexico first, Palestine second, and then America.



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[highwhey]

is this your reaction when you see the weight scale, fatricio?

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[diamenz]

Nowhere did Trump say they were invading Gaza, putting troops on the ground, or paying for its renovation at the expense of the American taxpayer. We can go around in circles here, but you're being an alarmist for no reason.

i've got a bridge to sell you.

[Patrick Chewing]

i've got a bridge to sell you.

Nah my friend, someone already sold you that same bridge. You'll have buyer's remorse in no time. Then, you'll remember what your friend Chewy told you.