View Full Version : No Giannis no problem for the Bucks against Toody's full strength Wolves
Neal Romer
02-12-2025, 11:23 PM
Tough one for the Toodster.
Jasper
02-12-2025, 11:46 PM
I was shocked how well bucks played ... 2 and 3rd team played very together ... and Porter Jr. un real acquisition
He will back up Dame easy.
Kuzma first double double looking to start with giannis and lopez
MrFonzworth
02-12-2025, 11:55 PM
Minnesota should've acquired an actual star to put alongside Rudy. Edwards isn't going to cut it:facepalm
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 12:20 AM
Big game for the trolls favorite target. Short handed wolves. Ingles playing 14 minutes. Hard to win with that and ant stinking up the joint
Neal Romer
02-13-2025, 12:51 AM
Ingles +8 in his minutes.
Ant breaks even at +/- zero.
Rudy with the team low -13 :(
tontoz
02-13-2025, 10:21 AM
Big game for the trolls favorite target. Short handed wolves. Ingles playing 14 minutes. Hard to win with that and ant stinking up the joint
Short handed Wolves?
Bucks were missing Giannis and Dame ffs. The Wolves got punk'd by Kuzma and Trent.
:roll:
90sgoat
02-13-2025, 11:39 AM
Wolves can only win against Jokic and his soft Denver team, but they will win every time.
Proctor
02-13-2025, 12:11 PM
Short handed Wolves?
Bucks were missing Giannis and Dame ffs. The Wolves got punk'd by Kuzma and Trent.
:roll:
:roll:
SouBeachTalents
02-13-2025, 12:20 PM
Short handed Wolves?
Bucks were missing Giannis and Dame ffs. The Wolves got punk'd by Kuzma and Trent.
:roll:
3ball levels of delusion
ArbitraryWater
02-13-2025, 01:05 PM
I was gonna make a thread on this.
Bucks B team without Giannis AND Dame beats the Wolves in Minnesota?
lmao
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 01:51 PM
Ingles +8 in his minutes.
Ant breaks even at +/- zero.
Rudy with the team low -13 :(
÷/- :facepalm
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 01:54 PM
I was gonna make a thread on this.
Bucks B team without Giannis AND Dame beats the Wolves in Minnesota?
lmao
Wolves without their. Pgs and 2nd option. Not much to be taken from this other than even a great night from gobert cant stop a troll
warriorfan
02-13-2025, 01:55 PM
:roll:
ArbitraryWater
02-13-2025, 02:03 PM
Wolves without their. Pgs and 2nd option. Not much to be taken from this other than even a great night from gobert cant stop a troll
who?
tontoz
02-13-2025, 02:41 PM
So missing Randle/Conley is comparable to missing Giannis/Dame?
:roll:
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 03:20 PM
So missing Randle/Conley is comparable to missing Giannis/Dame?
:roll:
Missing both pgs would be an issue for most teams. Id guess why everyone but rudy was awful?
Missing both pgs is an issue for most teams. Might have
tontoz
02-13-2025, 03:35 PM
Missing both pgs would be an issue for most teams. Id guess why everyone but rudy was awful?
Missing both pgs is an issue for most teams. Might have
Missing your two best players can be a problem too.
Giannis/Dame average a combined 58 pts, 14 rebounds, 13 assists.
So missing Randle/Conley is comparable to missing Giannis/Dame?
:roll:
:oldlol:
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 05:05 PM
Missing your two best players can be a problem too.
Giannis/Dame average a combined 58 pts, 14 rebounds, 13 assists.
It can be. Only trolls takeone game seriously though. Who wins a best of 7 under these cicumstances? Id go with the wolves. Ant has probably never has a worse game but of course yhe trolls are focused on the o e guy that actually showe up :facepalm
tontoz
02-13-2025, 05:11 PM
It can be. Only trolls takeone game seriously though. Who wins a best of 7 under these cicumstances? Id go with the wolves. Ant has probably never has a worse game but of course yhe trolls are focused on the o e guy that actually showe up :facepalm
Speaking of trolls i remember a guy who was trolling Luka all last season since Dallas missed the playoffs the previous season. Of course this clown completely ignored that they blew up the roster that had just made the WCF, but trolls aren't known for their IQ. Then Luka proceeded to dominate this trolls favorite team and knock them out of the playoffs routinely.
Do you remember that low IQ troll?
Xiao Yao You
02-13-2025, 09:21 PM
Tough nite for the trolls
Chris Hine: Rudy Gobert and Mike Conley are out. Anthony Edwards game-time decision, Finch says. – via Twitter ChristopherHine
tpols
02-13-2025, 10:10 PM
Minny is blowing OKC out without Rudy right now.
Not a good look Xiao.
Neal Romer
02-13-2025, 10:23 PM
Tough nite for the trolls
Chris Hine: Rudy Gobert and Mike Conley are out. Anthony Edwards game-time decision, Finch says. – via Twitter ChristopherHine
Indeed :roll:
Proctor
02-13-2025, 10:34 PM
Wolves offense looks so much more fluid without Gobert clogging shit up. Nice to see Garza continue to produce in limited minutes as well. Reid needs to start!
tontoz
02-13-2025, 11:38 PM
Missing both pgs would be an issue for most teams. Id guess why everyone but rudy was awful?
Missing both pgs is an issue for most teams. Might have
Doesn't seem to be a problem tonight. :lol
tpols
02-13-2025, 11:47 PM
Indeed :roll:
I hate to pile on the homie but it gets even worse when you see Naz Reid was player of the game. :lol
Proctor
02-13-2025, 11:54 PM
Reid 27/13/7...another huge game with Gobert out.
Neal Romer
02-13-2025, 11:57 PM
I hate to pile on the homie but it gets even worse when you see Naz Reid was player of the game. :lol
Oh you mean the Puerto Rican legend?
Neal Romer
02-13-2025, 11:57 PM
Reid 27/13/7...another huge game with Gobert out.
Oh you mean the Puerto Rican legend?
SouBeachTalents
02-13-2025, 11:58 PM
Wolves look so much better without Toody, just blew out OKC, even with Ant going 5/18, with Reid having a monster game.
Manny98
02-14-2025, 02:33 PM
Tough week for the troll
warriorfan
02-14-2025, 03:32 PM
Tough week for the troll
:roll:
Xiao Yao You
02-14-2025, 03:38 PM
I hate to pile on the homie but it gets even worse when you see Naz Reid was player of the game. :lol
Too bad he didnt show up the night before. Theres a reason hes a bench player
Xiao Yao You
02-14-2025, 03:41 PM
Oh you mean the Puerto Rican legend?
That would be whiteside and monroe. Could be reid if he doesnt figure out how to bring it consistently
tontoz
02-14-2025, 03:52 PM
Too bad he didnt show up the night before. Theres a reason hes a bench player
22/13 with +10 isn't showing up? :facepalm
Xiao Yao You
02-14-2025, 07:24 PM
7-17 1-7 from 3 very bum like especially when your role is to hit shots
tontoz
02-14-2025, 07:38 PM
7-17 1-7 from 3 very bum like especially when your role is to hit shots
He was also 7-7 from the foul line and had 13 rebounds. I guess rebounds only count when Toody gets them.
warriorfan
02-14-2025, 09:06 PM
That would be whiteside and monroe. Could be reid if he doesnt figure out how to bring it consistently
Dude shut the f.uck up.
Xiao Yao You
02-14-2025, 10:26 PM
He was also 7-7 from the foul line and had 13 rebounds. I guess rebounds only count when Toody gets them.
Career high?
About time someone helped rudy on the glass. They are barely out rebounding opponents this yeat. Town has been missed there
Xiao Yao You
02-14-2025, 10:27 PM
Dude shut the f.uck up.
Im not the one that starts these threads or the puero rocan legends :facepalm
tontoz
02-14-2025, 11:03 PM
Career high?
About time someone helped rudy on the glass. They are barely out rebounding opponents this yeat. Town has been missed there
If it was a career high I think that would qualify as "showing up".
Xiao Yao You
02-19-2025, 07:03 PM
Might have to let naz go. Good thing theyve still got garza!
Naz Reid is expected to opt out to explore free agency, but he’s believed to be a priority for the Timberwolves. – via Bleacher Report
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 12:01 AM
48 for rockets in 1st. I wonder why the trolls havent started a thread for this one? :facepalm
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 01:22 AM
Another monster nite from gleague legend garza to keep them in it. Time to send that other guy to iowa already. Let the garza era begin! :bowdown:
tontoz
02-22-2025, 12:49 PM
Another monster nite from gleague legend garza to keep them in it. Time to send that other guy to iowa already. Let the garza era begin! :bowdown:
To be fair 6/4 in 11 minutes is pretty good, 19/13 per 36 minutes.
Wolves 3 pt shooting is what killed them, 29% vs 50% for Houston. I doubt Toody would have made much of a difference there. :lol
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 12:57 PM
To be fair 6/4 in 11 minutes is pretty good, 19/13 per 36 minutes.
Wolves 3 pt shooting is what killed them, 29% vs 50% for Houston. I doubt Toody would have made much of a difference there. :lol
He certainly would have made a difference defensively. Less open looks from 3 if your best defender is on the floor. Probably bettervlooks at the other end with a willing screener and rim threat. It is a team game. When one of your two most important players is off the floor it is going to make a difference. I doubt any team has ever came close to putting up 48 in a quarter with gobert on the floor
tontoz
02-22-2025, 01:13 PM
He certainly would have made a difference defensively. Less open looks from 3 if your best defender is on the floor. Probably bettervlooks at the other end with a willing screener and rim threat. It is a team game. When one of your two most important players is off the floor it is going to make a difference. I doubt any team has ever came close to putting up 48 in a quarter with gobert on the floor
A drop coverage big isn't going to make much of a difference guarding the 3 pt line. We've seen Rudy out there before. It isnt pretty.
Houston only scored 73 in the last 3 quarters.
To be fair 6/4 in 11 minutes is pretty good, 19/13 per 36 minutes.
Wolves 3 pt shooting is what killed them, 29% vs 50% for Houston. I doubt Toody would have made much of a difference there. :lol
:roll:
Ether.
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 06:53 PM
A drop coverage big isn't going to make much of a difference guarding the 3 pt line. We've seen Rudy out there before. It isnt pretty.
Houston only scored 73 in the last 3 quarters.
A drop coverage big means that thevperimeter defenders can guard the 3 point line more aggressively. Obviously the 4 time dpoty isnt a drop coverage big. The trolls and their distegard for facts is astounding really.
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/perimeter-players-7-24-when-guarded-rudy-gobert-2024-nba-playoffs
tontoz
02-22-2025, 07:25 PM
A drop coverage big means that thevperimeter defenders can guard the 3 point line more aggressively. Obviously the 4 time dpoty isnt a drop coverage big. The trolls and their distegard for facts is astounding really.
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/perimeter-players-7-24-when-guarded-rudy-gobert-2024-nba-playoffs
I've seen gobert play. Pointing to a small sample of 31 shots doesn't change a career.
Let's not forget the negative effect he has on spacing on the other end. That is a big reason why ant is taking more 3s this year.
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 07:56 PM
I've seen gobert play. Pointing to a small sample of 31 shots doesn't change a career.
Let's not forget the negative effect he has on spacing on the other end. That is a big reason why ant is taking more 3s this year.
A small sample size of more than a decade. Those are just the most recent numbers from his teams best post season taking down the gavorie and defending champ. Trolls love small sample sizes anyway. They base a couple plays on him not being able to defend the perimeter when the numbers tell a much different story.
Id guess edwards is taking more 3s because he is shooting 41% which is much higher than before. Having an elite screener and rim runner opens up the perimeter not the opposite
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:02 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/timberwolves/minnesota-timberwolves-news/does-rudy-gobert-actually-struggle-to-defend-in-isolation-01j74k7kbame
Gobert tied for 45th of the 354 players who qualified, holding opponents to 0.73 points per possession in isolation in the regular season. Opposing players shot just 36% from the field (38% true shooting percentage) while matched up against Gobert in isolation. Far from bad defense.
tontoz
02-22-2025, 08:04 PM
A small sample size of more than a decade. Those are just the most recent numbers from his teams best post season taking down the gavorie and defending champ. Trolls love small sample sizes anyway. They base a couple plays on him not being able to defend the perimeter when the numbers tell a much different story.
Id guess edwards is taking more 3s because he is shooting 41% which is much higher than before. Having an elite screener and rim runner opens up the perimeter not the opposite
First of all gobert is not an elite rim runner because of his poor hands. His poor hands is why Randle wouldn't pass him the ball even though he was right under the rim.
Secondly i have seen gobert get played off the floor in the playoffs after getting merked on the perimeter. I also saw slow, "fat ass" Luka put him on skates and put a 3 in his eye to end the game and eventually his season. Everyone in the building knew Luka wanted to shoot a 3.
You would think the dpoy would be smart enough to run him off the line and take a 2 which would have meant overtime.
https://youtu.be/Um7BqBdelcc?si=psQV-sJVZstsptrg
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:09 PM
https://theanalyst.com/2024/04/2024-nba-playoffs-rudy-gobert-minnesota-timberwolves
The truth is that by playing five perimeter players at once, Gobert was forced away from the paint. Then, one of the Clippers’ ball handlers would drive on one of the Jazz’s poor perimeter defenders, Gobert would have to make a long rotation over to avoid the easy layup, and it would lead to an easy kick out 3 for Los Angeles. Like this:
If you watch that clip carefully, you’ll see that the culprit of that break down was Jordan Clarkson (who let Reggie Jackson beat him on the perimeter), not Gobert. Gobert is a great defender, maybe the best in the league, but he can’t guard an entire team by himself.
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:11 PM
Again the facts tell a different story if you care to open your eyes. Trolls will co tinue to post their nonsense. Gobert will continue his inevitable march to springfield
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:19 PM
First of all gobert is not an elite rim runner because of his poor hands. His poor hands is why Randle wouldn't pass him the ball even though he was right under the rim.
Secondly i have seen gobert get played off the floor in the playoffs after getting merked on the perimeter. I also saw slow, "fat ass" Luka put him on skates and put a 3 in his eye to end the game and eventually his season. Everyone in the building knew Luka wanted to shoot a 3.
You would think the dpoy would be smart enough to run him off the line and take a 2 which would have meant overtime.
https://youtu.be/Um7BqBdelcc?si=psQV-sJVZstsptrg
He holds the record for dunks in a season. 2nd all time in fg% 2pt % and
Eff fg%. 1st all time in true shooting%. Randle not throwing him the ball is on randle and why his teams have sucked i guess?
When was he played off the floor? Luka made a tough shot over him. He contested it. No he cant guard 5 guys himself or hold anyone to 0%. :facepalm
tontoz
02-22-2025, 08:28 PM
He holds the record for dunks in a season. 2nd all time in fg% 2pt % and
Eff fg%. 1st all time in true shooting%. Randle not throwing him the ball is on randle and why his teams have sucked i guess?
When was he played off the floor? Luka made a tough shot over him. He contested it. No he cant guard 5 guys himself or hold anyone to 0%. :facepalm
Luka didn't just hit a tough shot over him. He hit a playoff game winner over him. It wouldn't have been a game winner if Mr DPOY had enough sense to run him off the line and take a 2. I guess math isn't his strong suit.
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:32 PM
As i said small sample sizes dont natter to the trolls. 1 play and he is a drop coverage big despite a hof career that says otherwise :lol
tontoz
02-22-2025, 08:40 PM
As i said small sample sizes dont natter to the trolls. 1 play and he is a drop coverage big despite a hof career that says otherwise :lol
Does the name Terrance Mann ring a bell?
:roll:
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:44 PM
Does the name Terrance Mann ring a bell?
:roll:
Yeah that article civered it quite well if you had read it but again facts with video proof isnt for trolls i get it.
Clippers played 5 out and unlike the wolves gobert had little help. Was expected to guard the rim and perimeter with a bum and mitxhell by his side
Xiao Yao You
02-22-2025, 08:46 PM
Gobert out again so the wolves and yroll can prosper in the new era of Garza!!! :bowdown:
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 01:46 AM
Only gave up 130 including another 40+ quarter and a 35 pt one with reid and garza tearing shit up yet again! Send the other guy to iowa already! :rockon:
Proctor
02-24-2025, 02:44 AM
Wolves with a good effort tonight but hard to scrap together wins without Randle especially against leagues best. Scheduled loss even at home. Solid effort nonetheless.
tontoz
02-24-2025, 08:45 AM
A 7 point loss without their 2nd leading scorer/rebounder isnt exactly a surprise against the best team in the west.
A 7 point loss without their 2nd leading scorer/rebounder isnt exactly a surprise against the best team in the west.
Got him.
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 01:43 PM
But os
But it is topic worthy when they lose if gobert is playing no matter who else is missing. ****in trolls! Cant live with them. They cant live without rudy and i. :lol
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 01:53 PM
Once those talks ultimately fizzled, thanks largely to Durant’s disinterest in that reunion, Minnesota’s own approach for Durant was serious enough, sources say, that the Timberwolves were calling rival teams over the final few days before the Feb. 6 deadline buzzer sounded. The Wolves were working the phones in hopes of finding avenues to get under the NBA’s second luxury tax apron and then be able to aggregate contracts, all with the intent of landing Durant and his $51 million salary this season next to his Olympic running mate Anthony Edwards. – via marcstein.substack.com
Gobert ant and kd could be something next year!
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 01:55 PM
By NBA standards, then, Alexander-Walker is due for a payday … one some league executives project could reach as high as $20 million in average annual value now that Alexander-Walker has established himself as a true 3-and-D swingman by shooting in the vicinity of 40% on 3s in each of the past three seasons. – via marcstein.substack.com
Reid, who is the league’s reigning Sixth Man of the Year for a few more months, possesses a $15 million player option for 2025-26 that many of those same strategists expect he’ll decline in search of a richer arrangement in the summer. – via marcstein.substack.com
SouBeachTalents
02-24-2025, 01:57 PM
How much help does Gobert need :biggums:
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 09:53 PM
How much help does Gobert need :biggums:
Not much obviously since he wins regardelss of what crap you throw around him
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 09:54 PM
Help on the way for garza!
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279411/Julius-Randle-Donte-DiVincenzo-Nearing-Returns-For-Wolves
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 09:55 PM
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279406/Kevin-Garnett-Could-Join-Wolves-Front-Office-When-Lore-Rodriguez-Assume-Control
Proctor
02-24-2025, 10:39 PM
Can't get Randle and Divincenzio back quickly enough if you're the Wolves. This is a beatdown.
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 11:31 PM
As long as garza is available no problem
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 11:33 PM
Didnt give up 40 in any period! Naz continuing to show why hes a bench player
Xiao Yao You
02-24-2025, 11:48 PM
A beatdown! :roll:
Rookies off the bench carrying them woth naz and garza stinking up the joint again
Neal Romer
02-24-2025, 11:58 PM
Minnesota 131
OKC 128
No Toody, No PROBLEM! :hammertime:
How much help does Gobert need :biggums:
Bring coty to minneapolis quickly!
tontoz
02-25-2025, 09:26 AM
A beatdown! :roll:
Rookies off the bench carrying them woth naz and garza stinking up the joint again
:roll:
2 Victories in 2 weeks against the best team in the West.
:roll:
Xiao Yao You
02-25-2025, 10:18 AM
:roll:
2 Victories in 2 weeks against the best team in the West.
:roll:
So denver and okc now want no part of minny
SouBeachTalents
02-25-2025, 10:24 AM
So denver and okc now want no part of minny
As long as Rudy remains out, yes.
Xiao Yao You
02-25-2025, 10:53 AM
As long as Rudy remains out, yes.
Not beating denver without the guy that has matched up evenly against jokic in his career. Likely wont make the play in without him as good as ant and garza are
SouBeachTalents
02-25-2025, 11:09 AM
Not beating denver without the guy that has matched up evenly against jokic in his career. Likely wont make the play in without him as good as ant and garza are
They destroyed Denver in the playoffs last year without Toody, held them to 80 points on their home floor.
Xiao Yao You
02-25-2025, 01:03 PM
Gobert missed the playoffs last year? :facepalm
SouBeachTalents
02-25-2025, 01:08 PM
Gobert missed the playoffs last year? :facepalm
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202405060DEN.html
No Rudy, 26 point win on the road, holding the Nuggets to 80 points and Jokic to 16 on 5/13.
Xiao Yao You
02-25-2025, 01:31 PM
The yrolls and their small sample sizes. What a life they lead!:facepalm
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