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insidehoops
02-14-2025, 07:20 PM
2025 NBA All-Star Weekend Event Schedule
FRIDAY
7 p.m. ET | NBA All-Star Celebrity Game (Oakland Arena) // ESPN
9 p.m. ET | Rising Stars (Chase Center) // TNT & TruTV
Game 1: Team C vs. Team T
Game 2: Team G League vs. Team M
Game 3: Winner Game 1 vs. Winner Game 2
SATURDAY
8 p.m. ET | All-Star Saturday Night (Chase Center) // TNT & TruTV
1st Event: Skills Challenge
2nd Event: 3-Point Contest
3rd Event: Slam Dunk Contest
SUNDAY
3:30 p.m. ET | G League Up Next Game (Moscone Center)
8 p.m. ET | 74th NBA All-Star Game | Chase Center // TNT & TruTV
Game 1: Kenny’s Young Stars vs. Chuck’s Global Stars
Game 2: Shaq’s OGs vs. Candace’s Rising Stars
Game 3: Winner Game 1 vs. Winner Game 2
Street Hunger
02-14-2025, 09:40 PM
Skipping the celebrity game this year but will watch the highlights afterwards
Street Hunger
02-14-2025, 09:40 PM
Have to admit to not knowing many of the celebrities in the celebrity game. But it's been that way for a few years now. And some of these dudes are definitely super popular and streaming or whatever.
Hey Yo
02-14-2025, 10:58 PM
Linsanity in the house.
Street Hunger
02-14-2025, 11:42 PM
This rising Stars format is actually pretty good
Phoenix
02-15-2025, 08:19 AM
Have to admit to not knowing many of the celebrities in the celebrity game. But it's been that way for a few years now. And some of these dudes are definitely super popular and streaming or whatever.
Yeah, with the younger gen 'celebrities' now are Tiktok influencers and streamers, or other athletes. I remember the days of Steve Urkel and Carlton Banks being part of the 90's celebrity games, but actors don't move the needle nowadays. Social media made it possible for anyone to be a star of their own making.
I´m looking forward for the All Star Game which is decided when a Team reaches a certain amount of Points.
3 Point Shot left, 3 Point Shot right, 3 Point shot left, 3 Point shot right...
until a Team reaches the Pointgoal
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 01:51 PM
So the team with LeBron, Steph and KD play rookies on Sunday ... okay.
Lakers Legend#32
02-15-2025, 02:44 PM
Bring back East v West.
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 03:29 PM
Bring back East v West.
They did bring it back, last season. It's gone again smh
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 03:29 PM
Bring back East v West.
They did bring it back, last season. It's gone again smh
Wally450
02-15-2025, 04:04 PM
Bring back East v West.
Bring back guys giving any sort of effort during the game.
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 04:04 PM
All-Star really begins later tonight
Where's reaves and westbrook when you need them? They're both said to be all-star caliber players today, at least according to a certain braindead casual itb. :ohwell:
Full Court
02-15-2025, 07:01 PM
Where's reaves and westbrook when you need them? They're both said to be all-star caliber players today, at least according to a certain braindead casual itb. :ohwell:
^Dumbest poster in ISH history strikes again. Not only was Westbrook a multiple time all star, he was an MVP. :roll:
And Reaves would be an all star on any other team if he didn't have to live in LeShrivel's shadow.
Keep showing off that IQ, Stink Weasel. :lol
Oof must've struck a thin nerve. Sure enough, he's having a bloody bitch fit now. And as usual in his braindead logic, westbrook's past accolades in the 2010s still hold a lot of weight in his current state as a player nowadays. :eek:
Full Court
02-15-2025, 07:40 PM
Oof must've struck a thin nerve. Sure enough, he's having a bloody bitch fit now. And as usual in his braindead logic, westbrook's past accolades in the 2010s still hold a lot of weight in his current state as a player nowadays. :eek:
Pushing 33,000 posts, and not even a modicum of intelligence to be found.
Maybe I should remind this autistic idiot that Lebron James, AKA LeShrivel, is the only player in the NBA who couldn't make it the playoffs with Westbrook on his team. No wonder it's such a touchy subject for Stink Weasel. :roll:
Yep, that mere post count definitely gives you a bleeding crotch all day. Hopefully it kills you someday so you can finally spend the rest of your pathetic life burning in hell. :oldlol:
Full Court
02-15-2025, 09:02 PM
Yep, that mere post count definitely gives you a bleeding crotch all day. Hopefully it kills you someday so you can finally spend the rest of your pathetic life burning in hell. :oldlol:
These kinds of epic bitch fits are just proof that Full Court keeps on winning.
Interestingly, this autistic poster is also consensus biggest loser on ISH. :roll:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?520515-Biggest-Loser-On-ISH-Poll-Final-Bracket
:lebronamazed:
Nowoco
02-15-2025, 09:09 PM
Everything about this whole sorry event is whack. It really does just need to be canned.
is the only player in the NBA who couldn't make it the playoffs with Westbrook on his team...
https://i.ibb.co/PG5whwyn/IMG-20250203-130452.jpg
Lol what an absolute dumbass who loves to overlook facts and twist a lot of shit.
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:23 PM
Spurs' Victor Wembanyama and Chris Paul tried to "hack" the Skills Challenge by throwing up shots quickly without trying to make them to save time.
Boos rained down from the Chase Center crowd
The Spurs were disqualified for violating the rules by not attempting actual shots
Nowoco
02-15-2025, 09:25 PM
Punished for thinking outside the box. DQed for that is straight up bullshit.
Proctor
02-15-2025, 09:25 PM
CP0 is an insufferable douche
highwhey
02-15-2025, 09:28 PM
ya'll actually wasted time watching this? :oldlol:
Proctor
02-15-2025, 09:31 PM
ya'll actually wasted time watching this? :oldlol:
Have it on in the background. Need something to take my mind off the fact that Chewing weighs 400 POUNDS
Full Court
02-15-2025, 09:33 PM
https://i.ibb.co/PG5whwyn/IMG-20250203-130452.jpg
Lol what an absolute dumbass who loves to overlook facts and twist a lot of shit.
BITCH FIT
:roll:
Nice try, Stink Weasel. Trying to gloss over the fact that Lebron is the only person in the history of the sport to lead a super team to the lottery.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. 8T6snAJ6Ldo5sTyT8nf1ZwAAAA%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=1005f75c82906a18779404a498639e61c2c4377c0010d1 5fd5f4a9ff7bf80c42&ipo=images
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:34 PM
Team Warriors (Draymond and Moody) post the fastest time and advance to the Final Round of the Skills Challenge
They'll face Team Cavs (Mitchell and Mobley)
highwhey
02-15-2025, 09:35 PM
Have it on in the background. Need something to take my mind off the fact that Chewing weighs 400 POUNDS
:roll::roll:
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:39 PM
Team Cavs finish with 1:00.3 in the Final Round of the Skills Challenge
Team Warriors need to beat it
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 09:40 PM
They need to change to rules to having to make the shots.
Imagine winning a skills challenge without making any shots.
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:45 PM
Cavs win the Skills Challenge
TheBranStan
02-15-2025, 09:45 PM
Can we get rid of this trash ass skills challenge and replace it with a 1 on 1 tournament please Silver? I'll do whatever you want, daddy.
Nice one cavs. (https://i.ibb.co/RpQNPqx/IMG-20221122-211833.jpg)
Full Court
02-15-2025, 09:56 PM
Me a very very very smart stink weasel. Me learn how to use basektball reference. Now me go cry because of Full Court. :cry:
:roll:
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:58 PM
Gelo has no musical talent
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 09:58 PM
3- Point contest time!
StickyWice
02-15-2025, 10:00 PM
Fat highway logon to proctor account to talk himself on Saturday
So sad life
Can we get rid of this trash ass skills challenge and replace it with a 1 on 1 tournament please Silver? I'll do whatever you want, daddy. (https://i.ibb.co/LJtPyW7/IMG-20221213-081813.jpg)
We'll have to wait first for a new commissioner who will do that lol.
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 10:10 PM
Got a whole extra money rack and a slime green basketball and barley getting over 15 points lol
Full Court
02-15-2025, 10:14 PM
Me figure out how to change thread subject. Me very super duper smart stink weasel.
:roll:
Biggest
Loser
On
ISH
:confusedshrug:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P7hxZcdpWyM
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 10:23 PM
Tyler Herro advances, Damian Lillard ousted in 3-point contest
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 10:24 PM
The 3PT contest Final Round:
Buddy Hield
Darius Garland
Tyler Herro
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 10:33 PM
Tyler Herro your All-Star 3-point contest champion.
StickyWice
02-15-2025, 10:34 PM
:roll:
Biggest
Loser
On
ISH
:confusedshrug:
Me so stinky me so dumb
I never leave the house because I live with mum
I nevre shower I nevre shave
Everyting I have taxpayer payd
My name axe second big loser here to highwhey
A Round beaner who weight scale say ay way
Street Hunger
02-15-2025, 10:53 PM
2025 Slam Dunk contest judges:
Tracy McGrady
Kevin Garnett
Baron Davis
Jason Richardson
Jesser
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 11:00 PM
That ball don't have no grip
*Autistic ranting*
https://c.tenor.com/oS0sJFqak1YAAAAC/tenor.gif
Dumbass alt right incel lol
L.Kizzle
02-15-2025, 11:11 PM
Well got damn ...
90sgoat
02-15-2025, 11:22 PM
Nice dunk.
Full Court
02-15-2025, 11:23 PM
Yep, that mere post count definitely gives you a bleeding crotch all day. Hopefully it kills you someday so you can finally spend the rest of your pathetic life burning in hell. :oldlol:
Imagine getting so thoroughly destroyed in a battle of wits that all you can do is pray that Full Court dies. :roll:
What a stink weasel.
StickyWice
02-15-2025, 11:43 PM
Imagine getting so thoroughly destroyed in a battle of wits that all you can do is pray that Full Court dies. :roll:
What a stink weasel.
He loosah
All Star weekend and axe come out biggest loosah imagine
Full Court
02-15-2025, 11:44 PM
He loosah
Yes.
And stinky.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fm%2F74RORyPYoW sAAAAC%2Fstinky-smelly.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=1aa8a3d1473532fbfdd92a6b03e329c79a38b3c68ac02e cb4e47d37e9fca47d7&ipo=images
The two homosexuals above me truly love to hump on each other, especially the narcissist mongoloid who gayly resorts to calling others with stupid nicknames.
Full Court
02-16-2025, 12:48 AM
The two homosexuals above me truly love to hump on each other, especially the narcissist mongoloid who gayly resorts to calling others with stupid nicknames.
^Someone's having a lousy weekend. :lol
I guess that's to be expected when you're consensus biggest loser on ISH though.
:lebronamazed:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cBqluOCXniM (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXjsbxHgWKVzGIpCDFUbmq7cu8YziwX xzr6g&usqp=CAU)
Xiao Yao You
02-16-2025, 11:19 AM
https://i.ibb.co/PG5whwyn/IMG-20250203-130452.jpg
Lol what an absolute dumbass who loves to overlook facts and twist a lot of shit.
Coming from you :roll:
Full Court
02-16-2025, 01:36 PM
Me so stinky me so dumb
I never leave the house because I live with mum
I nevre shower I nevre shave
Everyting I have taxpayer payd
My name axe second big loser here to highwhey
A Round beaner who weight scale say ay way
:roll:
tpols
02-16-2025, 05:28 PM
For anybody that didn't see what Chris Paul and wemby did it was truly disgraceful. I could see if it was just a joke but that is... Chris Paul. Cheap, stingy, conniving, deceptive, and yet at the same time brilliant and talented.
https://youtu.be/eKli3A1EVMA?si=m305JB8rPROJsbYK
Xiao Yao You
02-16-2025, 05:37 PM
Tom Orsborn: Victor Wembanyama said the strategy that led to the DQ was his. Asked if he might have outsmarted himself, he said, “It was a good strategy, but I don’t know….It’s just not that big a deal.” 19 hours ago – via Bluesky
Neal Romer
02-16-2025, 05:39 PM
Personally Im glad to hear the Spurs made a mockery of anyone who spent their time watching guys do basketball summer camp practice drills. Good lord.
ttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v6S6XQb9Lmk (https://i.ibb.co/s2TRY1L/IMG-20220906-091426.jpg)
The all star crap show is only TNT?
Full Court
02-16-2025, 06:02 PM
Coming from you :roll:
:roll:
What a stink weasel.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 06:30 PM
SNL 50 Anniversary Special the same, definitely will be checking that out as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CoiRacV1axc (https://i.ibb.co/TRTS89N/IMG-20220829-102950.jpg)
ralph_i_el
02-16-2025, 07:14 PM
Who is going to guard Edey on the OG team if AD is out? Shaq gearing up?
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 08:02 PM
Lebron is reportedly out of the ASG ( sore ankle)....
I guess his team is now rolling with 7? Obviously too late for a replacement....
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 08:36 PM
Lebron is reportedly out of the ASG ( sore ankle)....
I guess his team is now rolling with 7? Obviously too late for a replacement....
Now the old guys have to play extended minutes... idea already a disaster.
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 08:46 PM
Now the old guys have to play extended minutes... idea already a disaster.
Kinda weird that Tatum and Brown are on the OG squad, they're pretty much in the same age bracket as Brunson on the 'young Stars'. I see the OGs actually have 9, so 8 with Lebron out. I'm guessing Tatum and KD will pick up the minutes slack.
I'm hoping this comes down to the OGs and Global stars( I feel like a North American vs the world is the last hope for a semi-competitive all-star format).
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 08:51 PM
Looks like all of Hollywood is at SNL 50.
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 09:08 PM
Are white artists, dancers and animators banned from the All Star game?
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 09:20 PM
Are white artists, dancers and animators banned from the All Star game?
Tony Toni Tone was better than Kendrick Lamar last week.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 09:30 PM
All-Star Game 1 starters
Team Chuck: Siakam, Towns, Jokic, Mitchell, Gilgeous-Alexander
Team Kenny: Williams, Jackson, Mobley, Edwards, Brunson
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 09:38 PM
These dark courts are bad for viewing, don't know why they keep doing that.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 09:41 PM
These games will be over quick.
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 09:46 PM
They have Kevin Hart shit-talking over the PA? They really trying to turn this league full WWE.
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 09:47 PM
I like the new format actually, but what's the point when they still play like headless chicken and play too fast for their skills.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 09:53 PM
Siakam the finish off a Trae Young no look.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 09:55 PM
Anthony Edwards hasn't checked in yet for the Young Stars
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 09:58 PM
Global Stars ( unsurprisingly) are through to the finals....
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 10:01 PM
Chuck's Global Stars beats Kenny's Young Stars 41-32 in Game 1
Mask the Embiid
02-16-2025, 10:04 PM
A damn shame lebron doesn't play the one year everyone tries
Hey Yo
02-16-2025, 10:12 PM
Lillard loses again
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 10:15 PM
Welp, Draymond just let us know how he feels about the new format.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 10:28 PM
Please get rid of this format. Scored almost half of 40 on like 3 minutes.
Real Men Wear Green
02-16-2025, 10:36 PM
Please get rid of this format. Scored almost half of 40 on like 3 minutes. They could use some changes but one good thing is that we didn't and can't see extensive garbage time. If no one gets down 20 we won't see a much of the goofy playground basketball and if close when the teams are near 40 we might even see defense.
Please get rid of this format. Scored almost half of 40 on like 3 minutes.
Yep. Such a weird format.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 10:39 PM
They could use some changes but one good thing is that we didn't and can't see extensive garbage time. If no one gets down 20 we won't see a much of the goofy playground basketball and if close when the teams are near 40 we might even see defense.
I agree with what Draymond said. You can't even break a record anymore with all of these mini games.
These games will last about 12-15 minutes.
Going to 40. The game to 24 will be less than 10 minutes.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 10:39 PM
Amen Thompson showing off his passing vision with three assists so far in four minutes on the floor in the Rising Stars vs. Shaq's OGs All-Star game.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 10:50 PM
Dame Lillard's 3 gives Shaq OGs a 42-35 win over Candace's Rising Stars. OGs actually played defense in the last several possessions to pull away.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 10:50 PM
OG playing like the rising stars. Smh.
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 10:51 PM
This format is much better than what the All Star Game has been the last 5 years at least.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 10:51 PM
Dame Lillard's 3 gives Shaq OGs a 42-35 win over Candace's Rising Stars. OGs actually played defense in the last several possessions to pull away.
They didn't play any defense, what game are you watching.
Street Hunger
02-16-2025, 10:52 PM
Shaq's OGs will face Chuck's Global Stars in the All Star Championship
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 10:54 PM
Lebron doesn't play and suddenly everyone plays defense.
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 10:56 PM
This format is much better than what the All Star Game has been the last 5 years at least.
Yeah, the players are actually giving somewhat of a fukk about playing D. Still gimmicky as hell but this is where we're at with the modern game/players.
I'm wondering if the same thing can be achieved by having a regular game but having them play to 120 or something.
Real Men Wear Green
02-16-2025, 10:56 PM
I agree with what Draymond said. You can't even break a record anymore with all of these mini games.
These games will last about 12-15 minutes.
Going to 40. The game to 24 will be less than 10 minutes. How many people care about Tatum's scoring record? I'm as big a Tatum fan as there is on this board and I don't even care about it. In order to break it you have to have a game like the crap we saw last year because in a normal game you would have to play a guy every minute. The ASG had gotten universally hated, they had to do something. Because the way that game was played the record became meaningless.
90sgoat
02-16-2025, 10:59 PM
Yeah, the players are actually giving somewhat of a fukk about playing D. Still gimmicky as hell but this is where we're at with the modern game/players.
I'm wondering if the same thing can be achieved by having a regular game but having them play to 120 or something.
I don't think they should, but I think they should make these teams permanent, like OGs, Rising Stars, Global Team and ... don't know what the last team should be, maybe just the rest. The OGs should have an age limit of 30, so it should be legit old timers.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 11:04 PM
How many people care about Tatum's scoring record? I'm as big a Tatum fan as there is on this board and I don't even care about it. In order to break it you have to have a game like the crap we saw last year because in a normal game you would have to play a guy every minute. The ASG had gotten universally hated, they had to do something. Because the way that game was played the record became meaningless.
Not necessarily that, but I mean the game is to 40. I think the high was 11 for one of the players. There can be no huge scoring outburst.
This is more gimmicky than the high scoring games.
Im Still Ballin
02-16-2025, 11:20 PM
Tatum's house!
Mask the Embiid
02-16-2025, 11:21 PM
We can finally put the great debate to bed. Would the world beat team usa if they voltron'd together?......the answer is a strong NO.
They not like us.
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 11:43 PM
The last game is the worst one lol. Get rid of this.
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 11:46 PM
Is it me, or this game.....the championship game.....in line with the bullshit we've been watching the last 5 years?
ILLsmak
02-16-2025, 11:46 PM
How many people care about Tatum's scoring record? I'm as big a Tatum fan as there is on this board and I don't even care about it. In order to break it you have to have a game like the crap we saw last year because in a normal game you would have to play a guy every minute. The ASG had gotten universally hated, they had to do something. Because the way that game was played the record became meaningless.
They need to abolish those records. I feel like if Tatum holds any record, its legitimacy should be scrutinized.
The asg is still ass. Will be interested to see engagement numbers, but I didn’t watch yet and won’t.
-Smak
L.Kizzle
02-16-2025, 11:49 PM
That game lasted like 5 minutes
Phoenix
02-16-2025, 11:54 PM
That game lasted like 5 minutes
The timeout was longer than the game lol
Real Men Wear Green
02-17-2025, 12:17 AM
Not necessarily that, but I mean the game is to 40. I think the high was 11 for one of the players. There can be no huge scoring outburst.
This is more gimmicky than the high scoring games.
Unfortunately Barkley team didn't bring it in the Final at all but Shaq's team played with some effort up until it was a blowout and then the game got stupid. The effort by the young players was tolerable though.
With the scoring record off the table the scoring outburst thing matters visually, watching highlights, but the actual statistics don't matter. That's the lasting damage from the last few years. Change was needed. Everything didn't work, and more change is needed, but unfortunately it's been proven that it's not enough to just ask the players to play harder.
warriorfan
02-17-2025, 12:24 AM
They need to abolish those records. I feel like if Tatum holds any record, its legitimacy should be scrutinized.
The asg is still ass. Will be interested to see engagement numbers, but I didn’t watch yet and won’t.
-Smak
This made me lol
bluechox2
02-17-2025, 01:23 AM
Wanted a bunch of rookies who were not selected to win all star game.. who ever brought this idea up needs to be fired
L.Kizzle
02-17-2025, 01:33 AM
Found this online.
Game 1 - 12 minutes
Game 2 - 16 minutes
Game 3 - 14 minutes
That's not fair to the players who made the team. And then rookies and sophomores not even selected get to play on All-Star day.
Lakers Legend#32
02-17-2025, 04:19 AM
This game has become a complete waste.
Put it out of its misery now.
bluechox2
02-17-2025, 04:20 AM
should of had a fan vote of team snubs vs all stars...had no idea of this rookie bullshit...they kept that hush hush
Full Court
02-17-2025, 10:04 AM
Yeah, this was even worse than last year's shenanigans. If players don't have the pride and dignity to actually play a game, then just kill the all star thing altogether.
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 10:14 AM
Personally liked the old formats with set times and two teams. The final 2 minutes of that was at least competitive as the players winning nature came out. It was also entertaining when a player had a hot streak.
Problem with the new first to 40 is that it encourages the 3pt shot even more.. I dont know how many fg attempts were 3s but im guessing the vast majority. I'll look it up in a sec
I preferred the mini-slam dunk contest we use to see from players who never join the actual contest.
28 total fg, 17 of those 3s for the OG's
90sgoat
02-17-2025, 10:41 AM
Yeah, this was even worse than last year's shenanigans. If players don't have the pride and dignity to actually play a game, then just kill the all star thing altogether.
If players don't have the dignity or skills to play in the All Star game, then shut down the entire NBA.
It's trash honestly, these players don't have enough ability to make an All Star game entertaining, they don't have the IQ to string together passes, to make a cool bounce pass or a behind the back. They don't understand flow or the passing game. They're low IQ robots who can only run to the corner and spam a 3.
The league is in very bad shape and Draymond sad so as well.
Real Men Wear Green
02-17-2025, 11:32 AM
Personally liked the old formats with set times and two teams. The final 2 minutes of that was at least competitive as the players winning nature came out. It was also entertaining when a player had a hot streak.
Problem with the new first to 40 is that it encourages the 3pt shot even more.. I dont know how many fg attempts were 3s but im guessing the vast majority. I'll look it up in a sec
I preferred the mini-slam dunk contest we use to see from players who never join the actual contest.
28 total fg, 17 of those 3s for the OG's NBAn general has become a three festival and with the effort to make Curry the star in his home court it went even further. That's about the modern nba more than rust to 40 format. The teams for to 38 or 39 and would shoot threes anyway.
Flat out sad. I didn’t watch much of the all star weekend except being told McClung is dunking. He was worth checking out. Then I look at boxscore and see 3 games. First team to 40 wins. What is this nonsense? lol Then Bron last minute backs out. All star weekend is nothing more than vacation for the league. So cancel the activities as I see them. Let plays have a few days off and back to regular season games. You can come up with whatever cool format you think would work. If the nba stars don’t care to participate then no point.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 01:48 PM
The NBA really is in no-win situation with this. Taking out the absurdity of these tradition-breaking schemes to generate interest for a moment, the innate nature of the game and the modern players revealed itself in the deciding game. The first two games were light on tension but the players were making half-hearted attempts at defense. Butts got a bit tight at the end of the OG/Rising stars game until Dame was able to seal it with a 3 at the end. The final game between the actual best players/all-stars, ideally organized into 'USA' and 'International' affiliations, started out 11-1 and ended with a blow-out, broken up by a timeout that was longer than any of the actual games. The idea of putting 'USA vs the World' as a concept to increase competitive desire was quickly put to rest, as it became a 3 point happy, no defense and lay-up line shit-show by the end of it all. The same as it's been the last 5 years.
Nothing about last night suggests this is a format worth sticking with. I'll be curious to see the ratings. Practically speaking the all-star weekend is dead, held together with duct tape by the 3point shootout and a transcendent dunker from the G-league. The players themselves are all wildly rich beyond our imaginations, more concerned with their own personal branding and devoid of the same competitive drive that fueled prior eras. It really has no reason to exist as far as the product we're now being subjected to, asides from it being a huge revenue earner for the league. The players don't give a shit, the fans don't give a shit.
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 02:14 PM
Lots of media outlets criticized the format. I'm personally just tired of seeing some of the same faces... Kevin Hart for example. The dude's so fake and not funny... they should have promoted Desi Banks.
A game of horse would have been more entertaining with the top three highest fg%
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 02:18 PM
Lots of media outlets criticized the format. I'm personally just tired of seeing some of the same faces... Kevin Hart for example. The dude's so fake and not funny... they should have promoted Desi Banks.
A game of horse would have been more entertaining with the top three highest fg%
A shining example of a gimmick being used to supplement the lack of substance with the play. Same with the musical performances and the hideous courts. Didn't they do an 'LED' court last year? It's all bullshit. I see the likes of Oscar at courtside, he must be thinking where the fukk did we take the wrong turn?!
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 02:25 PM
Yeah I agree. Really, what's proven to work is incentive. They made the mid-season tournament more competitive by incentivizing it with money, they need to do better with the all star game. Stop awarding second and third places.
Currently this is the way it's setup:
The four teams participating in the NBA All-Star Game will compete for a prize pool of $1.8 million. Each player on the championship-winning team will receive $125,000, each player on the second-place team will receive $50,000 and each player on the third- and fourth-place teams will receive $25,000.
The NBA has struggled in recent years to get stars to take the event seriously and have had to turn to financial incentives to encourage participation. Since 2018, members of the winning team received $100,000 while the losers earned $25,000.
The NBA felt confident that the $75,000 gap will ensure that the players will truly compete for the trophy. In 2023, some players said the gap make the game more competitive but last year's match was one of the worst in years.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-all-star-game-prize-money-how-much-does-winner-make-2025/e17456139bc6b22dd3ecf4ec
How about 225K for each player on the winning team and none for all others? Just a thought... I don't think 75K really matters that much anymore with the contracts these guys are getting. Surely the rookies will care, but most of these guys are on 30-50M annual contracts.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 02:43 PM
My issue with this is the NBA expecting the average meat and potato fan to accept that star players earning 250 million dollar contracts need further financial incentive. 250k? 500K? 750? What about a cool million? And really, 225k is nothing to these guys. This is a slippery slope. Increasing money isn't the answer when the inherent problem is the players mindset. Someone making 50k a year, increasing that to 150k can be life changing. Giving someone earning 60 million an extra 225k is nothing. That's like a weekend in Vegas or a month of strip clubs for Harden during his Houston days. Throwing more money at the problem IMO opens a can of worms they won't be able to close.
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 03:08 PM
well yeah more money would change that but I said what I said under the assumption the NBA wont spend more than they already are.
jayfan
02-17-2025, 03:31 PM
Last night was painfully bad. Especially Kevin Hart. Just horrible.
The league has lost the plot.
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Nowoco
02-17-2025, 03:47 PM
The only thing that will make people hyped for the ASG is getting rid of it for a few years. Then bring it back, east vs west just as before. It will still almost certainly suck ass but people will be hyped/tricked into watching it again. The format this year without question is one of the most absurd ideas the NBA have had and that's saying something. Another swing and a miss from the incompetent buffoon Adam Silver. The smiling idiot who prances around blissfully unaware that he's the worst commissioner in the history of sport and the man most responsible for destroying the NBA's reputation.
L.Kizzle
02-17-2025, 03:53 PM
The only thing that will make people hyped for the ASG is getting rid of it for a few years. Then bring it back, east vs west just as before. It will still almost certainly suck ass but people will be hyped/tricked into watching it again. The format this year without question is one of the most absurd ideas the NBA have had and that's saying something. Another swing and a miss from the incompetent buffoon Adam Silver. The smiling idiot who prances around blissfully unaware that he's the worst commissioner in the history of sport and the man most responsible for destroying the NBA's reputation.
They might actually work, get rid of it. They Dunk contest went away for 2 season and returned with Vince Carter.
The players might care then ... how bad would it look if your generation was the one that had the make the All-Star game go away.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 04:22 PM
They might actually work, get rid of it. They Dunk contest went away for 2 season and returned with Vince Carter.
The players might care then ... how bad would it look if your generation was the one that had the make the All-Star game go away.
But then the interest died again and leveled off until the Lavine/Gordon 2016 dunk-off, and only being kept on life support the past 3 years by McClung( to his credit).
I agree that the ASG needs to go away, but I think putting these things out of their misery to bring them back a few years later are band-aid fixes. The underlying issues eventually surface. Even last night, the final game was the least competitive and closest in spirit to the last few years of 3point spamming and no defense, and this game actually featured the all-star rosters split between US and int'l. The best case scenario ended up being the worst game of the night. Eventually the novelty of it gave way to the players innate instincts when it comes to how they handle the ASG.
Or, if they do decide to get rid of it for a few years? Make it a decade. I'm dead serious. Let the DGAF attitude completely wash out of the players and then try again.
Lakers Legend#32
02-17-2025, 04:31 PM
OMG I forget to mention how Kevin Hart was one of the main contributors to the ASG lameness.
Hart seems to think that just by yelling or swearing, that alone makes him funny. It does not.
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 04:35 PM
OMG I forget to mention how Kevin Hart was one of the main contributors to the ASG lameness.
Hart seems to think that just by yelling or swearing, that alone makes him funny. It does not.
Like no way girllll
tell me everythingggg
90sgoat
02-17-2025, 04:39 PM
Nothing about last night suggests this is a format worth sticking with. I'll be curious to see the ratings.
I watched the ASG for the first time in several years.
I'd watch it again next year, particularly now that Ja Morant and Giannis have signed up for dunk contest.
I actually think the league will improve once Lebron, Durant etc are out of the league and young guys like Luka and Wemby and Morant are the faces. Wemby played defense.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 04:39 PM
Here's a thought, with how global the league is how about having next years ASW overseas?
- Drop Friday night events
- Skills contest, dunk contest and 3 point shootout (in that order) Saturday night. Consider opening up the dunk contest to non-nba 'pros'
- Rising stars game and ASG on Sunday. Team USA vs Int'l stars format, FIBA rules including 20 mins halves for both games
Bring the time forward to account for zones.
That's all I got :confusedshrug:
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 04:53 PM
Why is the game on at 8PM Sunday anyways? They need to learn from the superbowl. People have work on Monday and kids need to be in bed.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 04:57 PM
Why is the game on at 8PM Sunday anyways? They need to learn from the superbowl. People have work on Monday and kids need to be in bed.
The Superbowl typically ends after 10pm EST, that's not a whole lot better. Both games really could start like 6pm EST at the latest.
rawimpact
02-17-2025, 05:01 PM
The Superbowl typically ends after 10pm EST, that's not a whole lot better. Both games really could start like 6pm EST at the latest.
Yeah I couldn't grab the last quarter of the superbowl this year not that it was worth watching. I'm sure there are studies on this for viewership but it just seems ridiculous.
Phoenix
02-17-2025, 05:06 PM
Yeah I couldn't grab the last quarter of the superbowl this year not that it was worth watching. I'm sure there are studies on this for viewership but it just seems ridiculous.
I'm in the Atlantic time zone so the bowl usually ends after 11pm for me. At my age I'm going into overtime staying up that late lol
L.Kizzle
02-17-2025, 05:50 PM
OMG I forget to mention how Kevin Hart was one of the main contributors to the ASG lameness.
Hart seems to think that just by yelling or swearing, that alone makes him funny. It does not.
Lil Kev had nothing to do with players effort. Could have been Chris Tucker or David Letterman with the mic, same results would have happened.
Phoenix
02-20-2025, 09:59 AM
Numbers are out: 2025 all-star game 2nd lowest ratings ever...
https://frontofficesports.com/nba-all-star-game-ratings-second-least-watched-ever-down-13/
"The NBA All-Star Game brought a new, tournament-style format—but it wasn’t enough to entice viewers to tune in.
The midseason showcase averaged 4.7 million viewers across TNT platforms, down 13% compared to last year, according to FOS media and entertainment reporter Ryan Glasspiegel. It’s the second-least-watched NBA All-Star Game, ahead only of the 2023 All-Star Game (4.6 million)."
Nowoco
02-20-2025, 10:08 AM
Not in the least bit surprising. I'm curious what, if any, difference LeBron playing would have made. I'm not trying to push any narrative, I'm just curious.
What are you going to try next Silver? College kids? Guys from the local pick-up game? Pluck people out of the crowd to suit up? Or maybe another format change seeing as how successful they've been in recent years. Maybe an All-star Cup is the answer.
Phoenix
02-20-2025, 10:17 AM
Not in the least bit surprising. I'm curious what, if any, difference LeBron playing would have made. I'm not trying to push any narrative, I'm just curious.
What are you going to try next Silver? College kids? Guys from the local pick-up game? Pluck people out of the crowd to suit up? Or maybe another format change seeing as how successful they've been in recent years. Maybe an All-star Cup is the answer.
Doubt it made much difference, because he was in the 2023 game as well which is all-time low( and of course, the last 20 years overall he's participated). And if his absence has that much impact at this stage in his career, that's a huge problem for the league because that means none of the current stars are pushing the needle.
I wonder if there would be any value in pushing the all-star game to after the season ends, similar to how the NFL did it back in the day. Because that in theory would eliminate this bullshit theory that the players are concerned about getting injured and it disrupting their season. I doubt that does anything either, because the main issue is the players simply don't give a fukk. It really is that simple.
Phoenix
02-20-2025, 10:29 AM
Frankly, the only reason I watched the game this year (and I streamed it so that doesn't count towards the TV numbers) was curiosity as to how the new format was going to shake out. Nothing about how it played out( moreso all the sideshow bullshit like Kevin Hart and pre-scheduled TV timeouts interrupting play for periods of time longer than the actual individual games) encourages me to bother next year. Last year I watched the first quarter and noped out. The product is simply awful and outlived its usefulness.
Real Men Wear Green
02-20-2025, 10:56 AM
The Pro Bowl was actually an even bigger joke than the allstar game and they got rid of it with the players playing flag football instead. In football's case it's very understandable though, the risk of injury is so much greater. If you're a professional player you have no interest in playing any kind of exhibition as a star.
Next year do something to make the game longer. Maybe 20 minute games of they want to repeat the tournament thing. I do feel like some of the players got the message and tried (Team OG had 6 blocks) but overall it still wasn't taken seriously enough. The long break to say goodbye to the TNT crew was also bad.
1987_Lakers
02-20-2025, 11:03 AM
Let's be real. Silver needs to grow some balls and fine these all-stars a million dollars each if they don't play hard. It's the only way.
90sgoat
02-20-2025, 11:10 AM
The Pro Bowl was actually an even bigger joke than the allstar game and they got rid of it with the players playing flag football instead. In football's case it's very understandable though, the risk of injury is so much greater. If you're a professional player you have no interest in playing any kind of exhibition as a star.
Next year do something to make the game longer. Maybe 20 minute games of they want to repeat the tournament thing. I do feel like some of the players got the message and tried (Team OG had 6 blocks) but overall it still wasn't taken seriously enough. The long break to say goodbye to the TNT crew was also bad.
I liked the new format in general.
I think they should focus less on these games and spend more time doing other stuff. Bring in more legends. Perhaps the legends game again? Have some 3 on 3 games? 1 on 1? Showcase more of the basketball that's being played in the world, not just the NBA.
Phoenix
02-20-2025, 11:23 AM
Let's be real. Silver needs to grow some balls and fine these all-stars a million dollars each if they don't play hard. It's the only way.
The way these players are coddled, they'd find another way to push back or the union would get involved. Silver in his push to be 'pro-player' has lost all control of the product. It's gonna be hard to get the horse back in the barn, hence all these bullshit gimmicks to 'force' better play through circumstance. Everyone sees through it, starting with the players themselves. I'd be curious to see how Stern would have handled it, though I think he wouldn't have let it get to this point to begin with.
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