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8Ball
02-24-2025, 08:31 PM
LeBron stats at age 40 season 22:

25 ppg / 9 assists / 8 rebounds - 52%fg and 40% from 3.


Jordan stats at age 40 season 15:

20 ppg / 4 assists / 6 rebounds - 44%fg and 29% from 3.



One is all-nba calibre, the other would not even be a bench player in today's game.



What does it feel like as Jordan fans all these years being on the wrong side of the debate?


Couldn't help drive the point home a little further.

Full Court
02-24-2025, 08:56 PM
In this inflated stats era, Jordan's 20ppg in the toughest to score era is still more impressive. And Jordan put a whole lot more effort on defense. And Jordan had waayyyyyyy less help. And Jordan played all 82 games, which Lebron said he was going to do and didn't even make it a quarter of the way through the season before he had to sit out with a sore vag.

Truth hurts. :lol

8Ball
02-24-2025, 08:59 PM
Jordan's 20ppg is more impressive?



Not 1 GM in today's game would sign a 40 year old Jordan to be a minimum player 15th man on the bench.... Except to sell tickets and only tickets on a tanking team.

Full Court
02-24-2025, 09:06 PM
Jordan's 20ppg is more impressive?



Not 1 GM in today's game would sign a 40 year old Jordan to be a minimum player 15th man on the bench.... Except to sell tickets and only tickets on a tanking team.

Guess what, you can cry all you want about it, but Jordan is STILL consensus GOAT.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2432659

It's not even close. Read it and weep. :confusedshrug:

8Ball
02-24-2025, 09:15 PM
I've stated nothing but facts in this thread, I don't care about opinions from Jordan slurpers on other forums or platforms that have been wrong for last 22 years.



Any other counter argument that can boost Jordan here from Jordan stans? At year 40 the evidence is absolutely damning.

Full Court
02-24-2025, 09:20 PM
I've stated nothing but facts in this thread, I don't care about opinions from Jordan slurpers on other forums or platforms that have been wrong for last 22 years.



Any other counter argument that can boost Jordan here from Jordan stans? At year 40 the evidence is absolutely damning.

You're incapable of applying context to raw data.

Jordan got his 20 ppg in the era where it was hardest to score. By far. Lebron gets the bulk of his points as uncontested, easy baskets. He gets 6-8 points every game by sandbagging and hanging out in the back court so someone can toss him a cherry pick pass.

Of course, someone like you would be impressed by that, but people that understand the game know that Lebron is empty stats.

Jordan's still ranked above Lebron. You lose again. Deal with it.

SouBeachTalents
02-24-2025, 09:32 PM
OP really riled Full Court up with this thread :lol

Full Court
02-24-2025, 09:36 PM
OP really riled Full Court up with this thread :lol

Seems like the only people riled up are you Bronie fluffers. :lol

Don't worry, I'm here to set you guys straight no matter how much damage control you try to do.

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 09:42 PM
It's not even close. LeBron even has a higher PER which adjusts for any era you play in, which is why LeBron's current stats are similar to his 2016 season, but you could see he had a higher PER by a considerable amount in 2016.

Full Court
02-24-2025, 09:45 PM
It's not even close. LeBron even has a higher PER which adjusts for any era you play in, which is why LeBron's current stats are similar to his 2016 season, but you could see he had a higher PER by a considerable amount in 2016.

Ironic post coming from you, seeing how you still don't know what an advanced stat is even though you've had a year to research. :roll:

RachlNicholsazz
02-24-2025, 09:47 PM
I've stated nothing but facts in this thread, I don't care about opinions from Jordan slurpers on other forums or platforms that have been wrong for last 22 years.



Why do you Lebron stans do this to yourselves? He doesn't have as many MVPs. He doesn't have as many FMVPs, he doesn't have as many rings. He's no longer even the best player in his team. There's nothing wrong with being tied with Kareem for second best. Stop trying to chase a dream that's never realistically going to happen

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 09:49 PM
Ironic post coming from you, seeing how you still don't know what an advanced stat is even though you've had a year to research. :roll:

Truth hurts. MJ couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs in the garbage East.

Full Court
02-24-2025, 09:54 PM
Truth hurts. MJ couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs in the garbage East.

Jordan had two years of sucking.

Lebron's been play-in or lottery for 5 of his last 6 seasons. The truth does indeed hurt.

:lebronamazed:

8Ball
02-24-2025, 10:06 PM
You're incapable of applying context to raw data.

Jordan got his 20 ppg in the era where it was hardest to score. By far. Lebron gets the bulk of his points as uncontested, easy baskets. He gets 6-8 points every game by sandbagging and hanging out in the back court so someone can toss him a cherry pick pass.

Of course, someone like you would be impressed by that, but people that understand the game know that Lebron is empty stats.

Jordan's still ranked above Lebron. You lose again. Deal with it.



Zydrunas Ilgauskas ranked higher than Jordan in the all-nba voting in 2003.


Jordan was ranked like 30th in voting for that year. Bran gonna make 2nd or 3rd team this year, top 15 player.


Impressive 20ppg my ass, not even the voters at the time thought so.

8Ball
02-24-2025, 10:08 PM
Why do you Lebron stans do this to yourselves? He doesn't have as many MVPs. He doesn't have as many FMVPs, he doesn't have as many rings. He's no longer even the best player in his team. There's nothing wrong with being tied with Kareem for second best. Stop trying to chase a dream that's never realistically going to happen

Do what to ourselves? Be right for 22 years? I said Bron was the best player I ever saw back in 2009 and 16 years later the facts confirm it all.


Kareem has more MVPs than Jordan. Russell almost doubles Jordan's ring count.


Bron has 20 and soon to be 21 all-nba teams with 13 all-nba 1st teams > Jordan's 11.


Bron is a better basketball player and greater for much longer.

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 10:11 PM
Jordan had two years of sucking.

Lebron's been play-in or lottery for 5 of his last 6 seasons. The truth does indeed hurt.

:lebronamazed:

You know what I find funny? A few seasons ago you made fun of LeBron's 3pt% all season long and in the last two seasons he has shot 40% from 3.

MJ in 2003...











































29%
:lol

Full Court
02-24-2025, 10:14 PM
Zydrunas Ilgauskas ranked higher than Jordan in the all-nba voting in 2003.


Jordan was ranked like 30th in voting for that year. Bran gonna make 2nd or 3rd team this year, top 15 player.


Impressive 20ppg my ass, not even the voters at the time thought so.


Do what to ourselves? Be right for 22 years? I said Bron was the best player I ever saw back in 2009 and 16 years later the facts confirm it all.


Kareem has more MVPs than Jordan. Russell almost doubles Jordan's ring count.


Bron has 20 and soon to be 21 all-nba teams with 13 all-nba 1st teams > Jordan's 11.


Bron is a better basketball player and greater for much longer.

Man, you're not taking Lebron's sucking in his old age well, are you? :roll: Maybe you should make some more damage control threads.

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1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 10:15 PM
Do what to ourselves? Be right for 22 years? I said Bron was the best player I ever saw back in 2009 and 16 years later the facts confirm it all.


Kareem has more MVPs than Jordan. Russell almost doubles Jordan's ring count.


Bron has 20 and soon to be 21 all-nba teams with 13 all-nba 1st teams > Jordan's 11.


Bron is a better basketball player and greater for much longer.

:lebronamazed:

Full Court
02-24-2025, 10:22 PM
Zydrunas Ilgauskas ranked higher than Jordan in the all-nba voting in 2003.


Jordan was ranked like 30th in voting for that year. Bran gonna make 2nd or 3rd team this year, top 15 player.


Impressive 20ppg my ass, not even the voters at the time thought so.


Do what to ourselves? Be right for 22 years? I said Bron was the best player I ever saw back in 2009 and 16 years later the facts confirm it all.


Kareem has more MVPs than Jordan. Russell almost doubles Jordan's ring count.


Bron has 20 and soon to be 21 all-nba teams with 13 all-nba 1st teams > Jordan's 11.


Bron is a better basketball player and greater for much longer.


:lebronamazed:

I saw Lebron airball yet another free throw within the last month. Go ahead, let's see you find a video of Wizards Jordan ever airballing a free throw. I'll wait. :lol

8Ball
02-24-2025, 10:23 PM
:lebronamazed:

How I feel knowing Jordan can't do anything anymore to regain #1 all time.


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SouBeachTalents
02-24-2025, 10:24 PM
I saw Lebron airball yet another free throw within the last month. Go ahead, let's see you find a video of Wizards Jordan ever airballing a free throw. I'll wait. :lol
Still trying to find a video of Wizards Jordan in the playoffs, let me finish looking for that first.

3ba11
02-24-2025, 10:24 PM
.
Adjusted for pace, 39-year old Jordan in 2002 outscored last year's Lebron at 39, and also this year's Lebron at 39/40:



Per 100 Possessions

2002 Jordan..... 35.7
2024 Lebron..... 34.6
2025 Lebron..... 34.9


Lebron's numbers keep going up because he's roiding (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?520143-Mims-is-just-a-regular-dude-so-he-can-just-go-to-a-regular-doctor-for-testosterone).

8Ball
02-24-2025, 10:25 PM
You know what I find funny? A few seasons ago you made fun of LeBron's 3pt% all season long and in the last two seasons he has shot 40% from 3.

MJ in 2003...

29%
:lol




Jordan stans don't realize how awful of a 3 point shooter he was. Normally players can get better in their later years, not Jordan.


That's why 40 year old Jordan would not even get a bench spot in today's game and Jordan is not the God of basketball as his blind followers state.

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 10:26 PM
Jordan never did anything like this at 40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWlULYydaKs

8Ball
02-24-2025, 10:27 PM
Still trying to find a video of Wizards Jordan in the playoffs, let me finish looking for that first.


https://media1.tenor.com/m/QgTx6fv4IpAAAAAd/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja.gif

Full Court
02-24-2025, 10:33 PM
Still trying to find a video of Wizards Jordan in the playoffs, let me finish looking for that first.

Funny you should bring that up. With the possible exception of 2019, Lebron as a Laker has had a WAAAYYYYYYY more stacked team than Jordan had on the Wizards, and that's not even debatable. And yet, just a few years ago Lebron led a SUPER TEAM to the LOTTERY.

Think about that. He led a super team to the lottery. The only supposed "great" in the history of the sport that has done that. There's a reason why he's consensus not GOAT. :lol

3ba11
02-24-2025, 10:39 PM
Jordan never did anything like this at 40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWlULYydaKs


Lebron never did that at 25 or 30, but now at 40%???... So he's roiding (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?520143-Mims-is-just-a-regular-dude-so-he-can-just-go-to-a-regular-doctor-for-testosterone)

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 10:42 PM
Still trying to find a video of Wizards Jordan in the playoffs, let me finish looking for that first.

:roll:

3ba11
02-24-2025, 10:55 PM
Still trying to find a video of Wizards Jordan in the playoffs, let me finish looking for that first.


Still looking for Jordan's "modern Kareem" teammate that has the #4 all-time PER and turns lottery teams into champion in 1 year.... and then carries the load on both ends for the next 5 years (while Lebron gets the credit).

SouBeachTalents
02-24-2025, 11:00 PM
Still looking for Jordan's "modern Kareem" teammate that has the #4 all-time PER and turns lottery teams into champion in 1 year.... and then carries the load on both ends for the next 5 years (while Lebron gets the credit).
He did do this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXsLLN-WoAASujh.jpg

Fun fact, AD never led the Pelicans to 50 wins once in 7 seasons in New Orleans. Meanwhile, Pippen led the Bulls to 55 the instant Jordan retired.

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 11:02 PM
He did do this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXsLLN-WoAASujh.jpg

Fun fact, AD never led the Pelicans to 50 wins once in 7 seasons in New Orleans. Meanwhile, Pippen led the Bulls to 55 the instant Jordan retired.

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3ba11
02-24-2025, 11:09 PM
He did do this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXsLLN-WoAASujh.jpg

Fun fact, AD never led the Pelicans to 50 wins once in 7 seasons in New Orleans. Meanwhile, Pippen led the Bulls to 55 the instant Jordan retired.


And how do you think Pippen won 55 despite getting far worse stats than AD ever had?

It's because he had literally the goat team and chemistry that just 3-peated in the modern era... He was handed the keys to the most well-oiled machine ever... Accordingly, Pippen's quick destruction of the goat team to a 2nd Round loser and then barely .500 in 1995 was easy compared to a real franchise player like AD building the league's worst team into a playoff team (that took a game off the KD Warriors), or lifting a lottery team to champion (2020 Lakers).

SouBeachTalents
02-24-2025, 11:11 PM
And how do you think Pippen won 55 despite getting far worse stats than AD ever had?

It's because he had literally the goat team that just 3-peated in the modern era... Pippen's quick cratering of the goat team to a 2nd Round loser and then barely .500 in 1995 was easy compared to a real franchise player like AD building the worst team in the league into a playoff team (that took a game off the KD Warriors), or lifting a lottery team to champion (2020 Lakers).
It's this, and then Jordan joined that goat team, racking up some hollow KD style rings.

3ba11
02-24-2025, 11:14 PM
It's this, and then Jordan joined that goat team, racking up some hollow KD style rings.


It's like taking a ice cream out of the refrigerator - it melts quickly... Pippen cratered the goat team to barely .500 by the time MJ returned -the cratering happened so fast that people think MJ took over the same team that he left in 93', but he didn't... He returned to a team that Pippen had cratered to barely .500 with downward trajectory - the Bulls were nothing!

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 11:14 PM
And how do you think Pippen won 55 despite getting far worse stats than AD ever had?

It's because he had literally the goat team and chemistry that just 3-peated in the modern era... He was handed the keys to the most well-oiled machine ever... Accordingly, Pippen's quick destruction of the goat team to a 2nd Round loser and then barely .500 in 1995 was easy compared to a real franchise player like AD building the league's worst team into a playoff team (that took a game off the KD Warriors), or lifting a lottery team to champion (2020 Lakers).


Speaking of AD




"Both AD and Kareem needed super-point guards like Oscar, Magic, and now Lebron to find synergies and have a great team.

Without these guys bird-feeding them, they're losers." - 3ball

3ba11
02-24-2025, 11:16 PM
Speaking of AD


So you're saying that AD needed less help by only needing a point guard that he would outscore in the RS and PO, while Pippen needed the goat scorer to carry him in every series by at least 10-30 ppg?

got it

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 11:18 PM
From "Bird fed loser" to "Real franchise player"

got it.

3ba11
02-24-2025, 11:25 PM
From "Bird fed loser" to "Real franchise player"

got it.


Lebron needs just as much help as AD, or more... Only MJ barely needed a 15-20 ppg dunker and bricklayer/lane-clogger... Everyone else needed a ton of help, and Lebron or AD are no different.

AD did infact lead the NBA in playoff scoring for a title run and lift a lottery team to champion in 1 year.. it's a goat season but the media ignores it and AD lets them because there's a subconscious "obeying" of the media's narratives.. Only occasionally will AD see the light and say things like "the media doesn't like me" when asked why he hasn't won DPOY.

1987_Lakers
02-24-2025, 11:30 PM
Dude deleted his post because he knew it was garbage. :oldlol:

jstern
02-25-2025, 12:23 AM
Is the OP one of Axe's alts?

Full Court
02-25-2025, 07:51 AM
Is the OP one of Axe's alts?

No. 8ball lives in a tiny rental apartment in Montreal. He's an insecure loser who was on here trying to convince everyone he was rich, and when I outed him as being a poser, he was practically begging people on here to believe him. :roll: Then he disappeared for a long time. Now he comes back periodically to do some Bronie fluffing. He's obsessed with hating Jordan 20 years after he retired.

But he's retarded like Axe, so they have that in common. :lol

Axe
02-25-2025, 08:08 AM
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8Ball
02-25-2025, 09:34 AM
Is the OP one of Axe's alts?

No, but who are you? Been here 4-5 years now and don't recognize you as a poster at all.

8Ball
02-25-2025, 09:36 AM
Funny you should bring that up. With the possible exception of 2019, Lebron as a Laker has had a WAAAYYYYYYY more stacked team than Jordan had on the Wizards, and that's not even debatable. And yet, just a few years ago Lebron led a SUPER TEAM to the LOTTERY.

Think about that. He led a super team to the lottery. The only supposed "great" in the history of the sport that has done that. There's a reason why he's consensus not GOAT. :lol

Jordan was the Owner / GM of the Wizards and he built his team like he built the Charlotte Bobcats or whatever. Jordan's failure is on him 100%.


When Jordan doesn't have Jerry Krause to spoonfeed him a team he produces garbage.

8Ball
02-25-2025, 09:38 AM
It's like taking a ice cream out of the refrigerator - it melts quickly... Pippen cratered the goat team to barely .500 by the time MJ returned -the cratering happened so fast that people think MJ took over the same team that he left in 93', but he didn't... He returned to a team that Pippen had cratered to barely .500 with downward trajectory - the Bulls were nothing!

Pippen cratered the team so badly he won 55 games and went to the 2nd round of the playoffs WITHOUT Jordan.

8Ball
02-25-2025, 09:41 AM
Back to the subject on hand. Can any JordanTard explain why LeBron is so VASTLY superior to Jordan at ages 40?


LeBron stats at age 40 season 22:

25 ppg / 9 assists / 8 rebounds - 52%fg and 40% from 3.


Jordan stats at age 40 season 15:

20 ppg / 4 assists / 6 rebounds - 44%fg and 29% from 3.




We are seeing with our very eyes how LeBRon was ALWAYS the more talented player, always the more durable player, always the more cerebral higher IQ player, always better in all ways. Even at ages 40 Jordan was completely washed while LeBron manages to be a top 10-15 player which has never been done before in history of the game.

Full Court
02-25-2025, 08:45 PM
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Autism has spoken, that's for sure. :lol


Axe has a terrible diet

And everyone can tell

Because it gives him bitch tits

And a rotten, stinky smell





:roll: SO true.

Lebron23
02-25-2025, 09:07 PM
LeBron is better than Michelle Jordan

Full Court
02-25-2025, 11:37 PM
LeShrivel has the most choke jobs of all time.

Imagine having this guy as your "GOAT"....

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:roll: Speaks volumes about the Bronie fluffers on here.

90sgoat
02-26-2025, 12:13 AM
Is Lebron at 40 better than Karl Malone at 40?

I would say they are similar in production when you take role and rules into account.

Malone was at 13 ppg, 9 rebounds and 4 assist with Lakers and that was playing with peak Shaq and peak Kobe.

At age 39 he had 21 ppg, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:10 AM
Is Lebron at 40 better than Karl Malone at 40?

I would say they are similar in production when you take role and rules into account.

Malone was at 13 ppg, 9 rebounds and 4 assist with Lakers and that was playing with peak Shaq and peak Kobe.

At age 39 he had 21 ppg, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.

Malone wasn't a net negative, so stats aside, Malone was clearly better.

1987_Lakers
02-26-2025, 01:12 AM
Is Lebron at 40 better than Karl Malone at 40?

I would say they are similar in production when you take role and rules into account.

Malone was at 13 ppg, 9 rebounds and 4 assist with Lakers and that was playing with peak Shaq and peak Kobe.

At age 39 he had 21 ppg, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.

He was better than MJ at 40

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:15 AM
He was better than MJ at 40

40-year old Malone > 40-year old Jordan > 40-year old Lebron

1987_Lakers
02-26-2025, 01:18 AM
40-year old Malone > 40-year old Jordan > 40-year old Lebron

Two of those guys made or are about to make the playoffs, one didn't.

Not close. Both better than MJ

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:22 AM
Two of those guys made or are about to make the playoffs, one didn't.

Not close. Both better than MJ

Only a Bronie fluffer would be impressed by a super team making the playoffs. Lebron has a better team surrounding him right now than Jordan ever had. Nobody's every achieved less with more. That's why the vast majority aren't fooled by LeFraud despite the biggest media disinformation campaign in sporting history.

RRR3
02-26-2025, 01:25 AM
Only a Bronie fluffer would be impressed by a super team making the playoffs. Lebron has a better team surrounding him right now than Jordan ever had. Nobody's every achieved less with more. That's why the vast majority aren't fooled by LeFraud despite the biggest media disinformation campaign in sporting history.
The caveman is trying to communicate again

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:26 AM
The caveman is trying to communicate again

As is typical, ^bitch boy has no actual counterargument.

Full Court keeps on winning.

:lebronamazed:

RRR3
02-26-2025, 01:27 AM
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:roll:

1987_Lakers
02-26-2025, 01:28 AM
Only a Bronie fluffer would be impressed by a super team making the playoffs. Lebron has a better team surrounding him right now than Jordan ever had. Nobody's every achieved less with more. That's why the vast majority aren't fooled by LeFraud despite the biggest media disinformation campaign in sporting history.

What are the Lakers record this year without AD & Luka? :lol

You use the term "super team" to downplay him then put Malone as the greatest 40 year old ever despite playing with Shaq, Kobe, & GP.

Can't make this up. :oldlol:

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:34 AM
:roll:


What are the Lakers record this year without AD & Luka? :lol

You use the term "super team" to downplay him then put Malone as the greatest 40 year old ever despite playing with Shaq, Kobe, & GP.

Can't make this up. :oldlol:

Man, I've really got the Bronie fluffers melting down tonight. :lol

I guess they're having internal conflict knowing deep down that Reaves is better than Lebron this year.

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1987_Lakers
02-26-2025, 01:43 AM
As is typical, ^bitch boy has no actual counterargument.

1987_Lakers keeps on winning.

:lebronamazed:

Full Court
02-26-2025, 01:45 AM
As is typical, ^bitch boy has no actual counterargument.

1987_Lakers keeps on winning.

:lebronamazed:

Malone and Jordan and Kareem were all better than Lebron at 40.

You can cry about it all you want, but you can't change facts. The truth does indeed hurt.



:lol

1987_Lakers
02-26-2025, 01:46 AM
LeBron, Malone and Kareem were all better than MJ at 40.

You can cry about it all you want, but you can't change facts. The truth does indeed hurt.



:lol

Walk on Water
02-26-2025, 01:52 AM
LeBron stats at age 40 season 22:

25 ppg / 9 assists / 8 rebounds - 52%fg and 40% from 3.


Jordan stats at age 40 season 15:

20 ppg / 4 assists / 6 rebounds - 44%fg and 29% from 3.



One is all-nba calibre, the other would not even be a bench player in today's game.



What does it feel like as Jordan fans all these years being on the wrong side of the debate?


Couldn't help drive the point home a little further.



Nobody is arguing about longevity. The fact you’re bringing it up and trying to convince everyone means you have doubt and don’t believe it fully.

Full Court
02-26-2025, 07:48 AM
Nobody is arguing about longevity. The fact you’re bringing it up and trying to convince everyone means you have doubt and don’t believe it fully.

Exactly. The Bronie fluffers are in full on insecure damage control mode. :roll:

Dudley especially seems shook.

8Ball
02-26-2025, 09:31 AM
Nobody is arguing about longevity. The fact you’re bringing it up and trying to convince everyone means you have doubt and don’t believe it fully.

Longevity of greatness.


All-nba player at age 40 counts for something vs a complete bench level player bum at 40 ala Jordan that was only there to sell tickets.

8Ball
02-26-2025, 09:32 AM
Malone and Jordan and Kareem were all better than Lebron at 40.

You can cry about it all you want, but you can't change facts. The truth does indeed hurt.



:lol

Malone LeBron and Kareem were all better than Jordan at 40.


There's no more dispute here. Even the awards voters in 2003 deemed it so.

8Ball
02-26-2025, 09:33 AM
Is Lebron at 40 better than Karl Malone at 40?

I would say they are similar in production when you take role and rules into account.

Malone was at 13 ppg, 9 rebounds and 4 assist with Lakers and that was playing with peak Shaq and peak Kobe.

At age 39 he had 21 ppg, 8 rebounds and 5 assists.

I take Malone and LeBron at 40 over Jordan at 40 any day of the week.

Axe
02-26-2025, 10:54 AM
No, but who are you? Been here 4-5 years now and don't recognize you as a poster at all. (https://i.ibb.co/gDsySW3/IMG-20230603-203842.jpg)
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8Ball
02-26-2025, 05:25 PM
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Been posting in NBA forums for nearly 5 years and some random kid I have never seen post before calls me an Axe alt.


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Full Court
02-26-2025, 07:59 PM
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I see Bitch Tits is back. :lol






Axe is a stinky bitch tit boy

With a brain the size of a pea

Full Court makes him feel so dumb

That he cries and stamps his feet



:roll: SO true.

kawhileonard2
02-26-2025, 10:10 PM
Lebron missed the playoffs with peak Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook.

And1AllDay
02-27-2025, 01:24 AM
LeBron stats at age 40 season 22:

25 ppg / 9 assists / 8 rebounds - 52%fg and 40% from 3.


Jordan stats at age 40 season 15:

20 ppg / 4 assists / 6 rebounds - 44%fg and 29% from 3.



One is all-nba calibre, the other would not even be a bench player in today's game.



What does it feel like as Jordan fans all these years being on the wrong side of the debate?


Couldn't help drive the point home a little further.

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Full Court
02-27-2025, 07:50 AM
Lebron missed the playoffs with peak Anthony Davis and Russell Westbrook.

Only player ever to lead a super team to the lottery.


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