Let's settle this. Lebron vs Luca. Who is the Lakers Most Valuable Player?

[Walk on Water]

When Luca got to LA, they all said Los Angeles is now Luca's town. Lebron is on his way out. It's the LUCA show. Luca is the face of LA. They go to see Luca, Luca, Luca. It's his show, his town, his team. His game. He is the best player, right?

But now I see a lot of Lebron fam saying Lebron is outplaying Luca and closing the games. Looking better than him. In better shape, better shooting, better defense. Passing just as good.

Okay, so if you had a lie detector test and had to choose one player that represents the most valuable player on your team, the best player, which one would it be?

According to you, the Lakers are going to 3 peat. So after the first ring this year, who gets the MVP? Who is the MVP? Don't start making excuses about age and the future. Right here, right now. Who is the Lakers best and most valuable player? Old Lebron? Or Prime Luca?

[SouBeachTalents]

It's obviously LeBron

[sdot_thadon]

Op is so fed up after only 4 games that we gotta settle this once and for all:oldlol: Lebron is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Full Court]

If the Lakers win the championship, which they should, Lebron will get the FMVP regardless of how much he chokes or how much better Luka and Reaves are. It would be like the Olympic MVP, where they feel obligated to give it to Lebron despite someone else deserving it. It's all about pushing a narrative.

[StrongLurk]

OP is triggered so easily :lol

[RRR3]

Obviously LeBeast.

[MrFonzworth]

We finally settled this.

[Walk on Water]

It's obviously LeBron


Yea most people seem to say LeBron. So Luka is not as good then. He’s 25.

[Axe]

Luka is good but he couldn't get kyrie to a ring. :ohwell:

[RRR3]

Yea most people seem to say LeBron. So Luka is not as good then. He’s 25.
I'll let you in on a little secret, jstern. NO ONE, ever, is as good as LeBron.

[Walk on Water]

I'll let you in on a little secret, jstern. NO ONE, ever, is as good as LeBron.


Then why couldn’t he make the play in tournament while playing with Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook, etc?

[Ainosterhaspie]

LeBron's been better so far, but Luka clearly isn't himself yet, so it's premature to settle anything.

[Full Court]

I'll let you in on a little secret, jstern. NO ONE, ever, is as good as LeBron.

Nobody in the history of the sport has done as much choking as Lebron.

Let

that

sink

in.


:lebroncry:

[SouBeachTalents]

Nobody in the history of the sport has done as much choking as Lebron.

Let

that

sink

in.


:lebroncry:
You are a Manlet with a short dick. If you try to fight me I'll put you in a body bag

[Mask the Embiid]

Its crazy anytime im wrong people are quoting me non stop but when i hit the nail right on the head. I hear nothing..... I told yall right after the trade that Luka would be inferior to lebron on the same team. I told yall his 30 ppg in the playoffs would plummet....ect.....ect....ect.... Why are those threads not being bumped constantly like when im wrong? Keep the same energy

[Full Court]

You are a Manlet with a short dick. If you try to fight me I'll put you in a body bag

If you want to do a credible impersonation of Screwy Louie, then you'll have to cut about a foot off of your height. :lol

[Meticode]

Luka settles for threes too much. If he put not pressure on the defense he'd be better.

[Phoenix]

Luka settles for threes too much. If he put not pressure on the defense he'd be better.

Holy shit it's annoying. The worst thing to do when in a shooting slump is jack 3s. Get in the post, take it to the hole. I'm wondering if he still doesn't quite have his legs yet.

[Meticode]

Holy shit it's annoying. The worst thing to do when in a shooting slump is jack 3s. Get in the post, take it to the hole. I'm wondering if he still doesn't quite have his legs yet.
If he became a better three point shooter it wouldn't be a huge deal. This was the Achilles heel for LeBron in his 20s. After his second run in Cleveland he improved his three to at least be respectable and now even he shoots it you feel it has a good chance of going in.

I don't feel that way with Luka at all when he does that. It just feels like a low percentage shot. And it's frustrating because he's big enough and crafty enough to put pressure on the interior defense.

[Phoenix]

If he became a better three point shooter it wouldn't be a huge deal. This was the Achilles heel for LeBron in his 20s. After his second run in Cleveland he improved his three to at least be respectable and now even he shoots it you feel it has a good chance of going in.

I don't feel that way with Luka at all when he does that. It just feels like a low percentage shot. And it's frustrating because he's big enough and crafty enough to put pressure on the interior defense.

Luka has a more natural shooting stroke than young or even mid career Lebron. And while he's never been Steph from 3, he's definitely generally better than he's been with the Lakers so far. 35% with Dallas, 22% with LA. Absolutely putrid.... he's penetrating the lane just fine so it's not like he has to spam 3's trying to find a rhythm.

[Lakers Legend#32]

LeKing

[Jasper]

obviously lebron is juiced ..

funny how no one else can duplicate his cocktail

to play till your 50 and out sprint a 22 year old .

.:roll::oldlol::roll:

[ILLsmak]

Luka is good but he couldn't get kyrie to a ring. :ohwell:

lol well played.

-Smak

[FKAri]

If he became a better three point shooter it wouldn't be a huge deal. This was the Achilles heel for LeBron in his 20s. After his second run in Cleveland he improved his three to at least be respectable and now even he shoots it you feel it has a good chance of going in.

I don't feel that way with Luka at all when he does that. It just feels like a low percentage shot. And it's frustrating because he's big enough and crafty enough to put pressure on the interior defense.

Is this your first time watching Luka? Did you not see him all of last year? He was making all those 3s.

[Axe]

You are a Manlet with a short dick. If you try to fight me I'll put you in a body bag
:oldlol:

[90sgoat]

Is this your first time watching Luka? Did you not see him all of last year? He was making all those 3s.

Luka uses those 3s as a decoy also to lure defenders close and then blow by them.

[Chick Stern]

obviously lebron is juiced ..

funny how no one else can duplicate his cocktail

to play till your 50 and out sprint a 22 year old .

.:roll::oldlol::roll:

Virtually all elite pros are juicing. It started to become prevalent in the 70s, and was rampant by the late 80s.

[8Ball]

Troll thread?

It's obviously LeBron the MVP of the Lakers since the Luka trade.

[ImKobe]

Luka's been the more valuable player even though he's not making his shots. The non-Luka minutes have been a struggle. He's fed Bran a bunch of easy points and Bran is getting easy looks because of the attention that Doncic is drawing from the opposing defenses.

[Walk on Water]

Troll thread?

It's obviously LeBron the MVP of the Lakers since the Luka trade.



Well if you think this is a troll thread, then I guess that shows how much you think of Luca. He’s not close to LeBron, right?

[sdot_thadon]

Luka's been the more valuable player even though he's not making his shots. The non-Luka minutes have been a struggle. He's fed Bran a bunch of easy points and Bran is getting easy looks because of the attention that Doncic is drawing from the opposing defenses.

The difference is the lineups they run each with when the other is out of the game. Lebron runs with the worse lineup from what ive noticed and it's bleeding points when Luka sits because most of the other good rotation guys sit too. Might be interesting to go back and check the accuracy of the theory becuase i didnt notice until the last game and obviously they were missing 2 heavy minute guys. Maybe its a trend maybe not. Something I'm sure JJ will work out by the playoffs.

[Walk on Water]

It’s pretty wild how LeBron reduced Luca into his sidekick. Is Luca okay with that? It’s like LeBron competes against his own teammates. Now people think LeBron is MVP even though he has Doncic, his side-kick. Is this what Luca envisioned?

[90sgoat]

The difference is the lineups they run each with when the other is out of the game. Lebron runs with the worse lineup from what ive noticed and it's bleeding points when Luka sits because most of the other good rotation guys sit too. Might be interesting to go back and check the accuracy of the theory becuase i didnt notice until the last game and obviously they were missing 2 heavy minute guys. Maybe its a trend maybe not. Something I'm sure JJ will work out by the playoffs.

I don't know, but both Lebron and the others lack the easy looks that Luka gets them. Lebron doesn't get centers easy looks, he mostly scores in the PnR or gets the corner shooter.

[90sgoat]

It’s pretty wild how LeBron reduced Luca into his sidekick. Is Luca okay with that? It’s like LeBron competes against his own teammates. Now people think LeBron is MVP even though he has Doncic, his side-kick. Is this what Luca envisioned?

No one watching thinks Luka is the sidekick now.

[kawhileonard2]

Luka for sure. Made Finals last year. Lebron lost in round 1 with a stacked team. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVn2JwBxzY

[ImKobe]

The difference is the lineups they run each with when the other is out of the game. Lebron runs with the worse lineup from what ive noticed and it's bleeding points when Luka sits because most of the other good rotation guys sit too. Might be interesting to go back and check the accuracy of the theory becuase i didnt notice until the last game and obviously they were missing 2 heavy minute guys. Maybe its a trend maybe not. Something I'm sure JJ will work out by the playoffs.

I think personally it just comes down to Lebron's lack of ability/unwillingness to create better looks for himself in the half court. I know the stuff about 3PT percentages in the 2nd unit Bron minutes where they can't seem to make 3s and allow a lot of them on the other end which can be attributed to "luck", but I don't think it's just "luck" when this has been the case all season. Doncic just creates better looks for himself & his teammates in the half court is what I'm getting out of watching these games.

And also I'd get the difference in the +/- if we were just talking about them playing good teams that have a lot of talent/depth, this shit's happening against the Jazz, Hornets and Pelicans man. Was the same damn thing when AD played and they'd just struggle to put up points without him on the court. I get the part about their defense being worse with the 2nd unit, but in this stretch with Luka it's the offense that's stagnating when he's not on the court. A lot of empty possessions.

[sdot_thadon]

I think personally it just comes down to Lebron's lack of ability/unwillingness to create better looks for himself in the half court. I know the stuff about 3PT percentages in the 2nd unit Bron minutes where they can't seem to make 3s and allow a lot of them on the other end which can be attributed to "luck", but I don't think it's just "luck" when this has been the case all season. Doncic just creates better looks for himself & his teammates in the half court is what I'm getting out of watching these games.

And also I'd get the difference in the +/- if we were just talking about them playing good teams that have a lot of talent/depth, this shit's happening against the Jazz, Hornets and Pelicans man. Was the same damn thing when AD played and they'd just struggle to put up points without him on the court. I get the part about their defense being worse with the 2nd unit, but in this stretch with Luka it's the offense that's stagnating when he's not on the court. A lot of empty possessions.

Not just the defense but the offense too. Also I'd imagine this is a way of seeing his age because when he was younger he could carry any rag tag unit to a decent offense by the numbers. He'd literally take 10 day contract guys and still create looks. I don't think he has that same capability and that's saying something about where he was considering how effective he's still able to be at this stage. We look at the big picture stuff when it comes to his decline like athletic ability but another one to keep an eye on is reaction time. He still seems to time chase down blocks at the same level albeit not as often, but what about spotting and reacting to passing windows and things of that nature? In boxing there comes a point where a fighter can see openings but can't "pull the trigger", does this happen in basketball too?

[BarberSchool]

How many NBA Finals have had CO-MVP’s ?