OT: Aliens are REAL?

[eliteballer]

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/age-of-disclosure-interview-aliens-government-cover-up-1236332030/

Wild article...almost unreal this is mainstream.

[HylianNightmare]

Always have been

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkU7ZqbADRs

[Im Still Ballin]

Interesting article. Future repped.

[Kblaze8855]

I don’t think anyone I’ve ever considered intelligent has disputed that there are too many stars in the universe for us to be alone. There are certainly intelligent people I’ve never discussed with but anyone I thought had an opinion worth hearing? 100% of them assume there is life beyond Earth.

It could be one in a billion and there would still be plenty of other life.

The numbers are just too insane. It just isn’t going to be a major discussion until somebody just put something on a table and gives the world access to it to verify what it is. And even then a lot of people would say it’s fake. You could put an actual alien on the lawn of the White House and let people see it and they will believe it’s a prank even if they believed the aliens existed.

Something is going to have to hover in plain sight and come down and interact with humanity all over the world in numbers too great to dispute and I don’t see them doing that anytime soon.

Someone would shoot one of them on general principle and nothing good would come of it. It’s better they stay largely in the shadows.

[Neal Romer]

I don’t think anyone I’ve ever considered intelligent has disputed that there are too many stars in the universe for us to be alone. There are certainly intelligent people I’ve never discussed with but anyone I thought had an opinion worth hearing? 100% of them assume there is life beyond Earth.

It could be one in a billion and there would still be plenty of other life.

The numbers are just too insane. It just isn’t going to be a major discussion until somebody just put something on a table and gives the world access to it to verify what it is. And even then a lot of people would say it’s fake. You could put an actual alien on the lawn of the White House and let people see it and they will believe it’s a prank even if they believed the aliens existed.

Something is going to have to hover in plain sight and come down and interact with humanity all over the world in numbers too great to dispute and I don’t see them doing that anytime soon.

Someone would shoot one of them on general principle and nothing good would come of it. It’s better they stay largely in the shadows.

This actually is an outdated way of thinking. It was part of the evolution of mainstream discussion on the topic from "we dont see anywhere else like earth, we must be alone" to "well the universe is so vast, there must be more life out there." But the latter is also scientifically and philosophically flawed. They just dont go deep into the nuances of these things on most mainstream science broadcasts because very arcane analysis which concludes with "so we're really not sure" doesnt make very popular TV programming. Even a lot of people in the science community tend to rehash popular dogma. People just dont realize it because they assume anyone working in science is a real expert and original thinker. Just like any person out there who doesnt know basketball might see Skip Bayless or any talking head on television and assume "this dude's been involved with sports as his professional career for years, he KNOWS what he's talking about." It's just like that in science. There's plenty of Skips and Stephen A's and Perks and Tony Kornheisers and whoever you wanna name in the science media that can give an "expert" opinion... and it doesnt make them some infallible luminary.

I could give you some more depth on the issue but you'd have to buy some razor blades.

[eliteballer]

A sitting Secretary of State talking about this is insane.

[tpols]

I don’t think anyone I’ve ever considered intelligent has disputed that there are too many stars in the universe for us to be alone. There are certainly intelligent people I’ve never discussed with but anyone I thought had an opinion worth hearing? 100% of them assume there is life beyond Earth.

It could be one in a billion and there would still be plenty of other life.

The numbers are just too insane. It just isn’t going to be a major discussion until somebody just put something on a table and gives the world access to it to verify what it is. And even then a lot of people would say it’s fake. You could put an actual alien on the lawn of the White House and let people see it and they will believe it’s a prank even if they believed the aliens existed.

Something is going to have to hover in plain sight and come down and interact with humanity all over the world in numbers too great to dispute and I don’t see them doing that anytime soon.

Someone would shoot one of them on general principle and nothing good would come of it. It’s better they stay largely in the shadows.

I think that's why they don't interact with people. Too violent and stupid we are. It would be like a human going into grizzly country and trying to make friends with the bears. A guy actually did that like 20 years ago and him and his girlfriend gotten eaten alive by hungry grizzly right before hibernation season.

[eliteballer]

https://ew.com/the-age-disclosure-ufos-aliens-marco-rubio-authorities-break-silence-11692679

[ILLsmak]

This actually is an outdated way of thinking. It was part of the evolution of mainstream discussion on the topic from "we dont see anywhere else like earth, we must be alone" to "well the universe is so vast, there must be more life out there." But the latter is also scientifically and philosophically flawed. They just dont go deep into the nuances of these things on most mainstream science broadcasts because very arcane analysis which concludes with "so we're really not sure" doesnt make very popular TV programming. Even a lot of people in the science community tend to rehash popular dogma. People just dont realize it because they assume anyone working in science is a real expert and original thinker. Just like any person out there who doesnt know basketball might see Skip Bayless or any talking head on television and assume "this dude's been involved with sports as his professional career for years, he KNOWS what he's talking about." It's just like that in science. There's plenty of Skips and Stephen A's and Perks and Tony Kornheisers and whoever you wanna name in the science media that can give an "expert" opinion... and it doesnt make them some infallible luminary.

I could give you some more depth on the issue but you'd have to buy some razor blades.

Is it flawed?

I think space travel is much harder than we believe. We think we are gonna be cruising the universe at some point, and that’s where the alien visitor thing comes from. It probably is based on them having some crazy tech that lets them slip through wormholes n shite, or go much faster than light speed. Or they are 1000 years old and they don’t need to eat.

The part that defies science and logic, to me, is “Aliens are here.” That the possibility of life increases the more we realize how much is out there works for me, in a Skip scientist sort of way.

-Smak

[Neal Romer]

Is it flawed?

I think space travel is much harder than we believe. We think we are gonna be cruising the universe at some point, and that’s where the alien visitor thing comes from. It probably is based on them having some crazy tech that lets them slip through wormholes n shite, or go much faster than light speed. Or they are 1000 years old and they don’t need to eat.

The part that defies science and logic, to me, is “Aliens are here.” That the possibility of life increases the more we realize how much is out there works for me, in a Skip scientist sort of way.

-Smak


I hear ya.

Why dont you head on over to BladeInAmerica.com, cop yourself a Big Shaver, and Ill give ya the flip side of the "life must be out there" coin.

[iamgine]

Aliens are real and Aliens are here ---> Two completely different things

Until there is concrete evidence, I don't believe they are here.

[bdonovan]

Increasingly the government is going on the record. It uses strategic ambiguity- with one part of government (ie: military) making admissions, while another part walks it back. In so doing, they reach those capable of accepting the reality while allowing those who cannot to comfortably remain in denial.

[AussieSteve]

I don’t think anyone I’ve ever considered intelligent has disputed that there are too many stars in the universe for us to be alone. There are certainly intelligent people I’ve never discussed with but anyone I thought had an opinion worth hearing? 100% of them assume there is life beyond Earth.

It could be one in a billion and there would still be plenty of other life.

The numbers are just too insane. It just isn’t going to be a major discussion until somebody just put something on a table and gives the world access to it to verify what it is. And even then a lot of people would say it’s fake. You could put an actual alien on the lawn of the White House and let people see it and they will believe it’s a prank even if they believed the aliens existed.

Something is going to have to hover in plain sight and come down and interact with humanity all over the world in numbers too great to dispute and I don’t see them doing that anytime soon.

Someone would shoot one of them on general principle and nothing good would come of it. It’s better they stay largely in the shadows.

It's becoming increasingly common in academia to have the opposit view. The odds of life arising are so slim as to be essentially zero.

The number of parameters that must be within quite slim margins, its now thought, have grown and combine to an impossibly small probability.

It's not one in a billion. It's more like one in a billion billion billion.

[tpols]

It's becoming increasingly common in academia to have the opposit view. The odds of life arising are so slim as to be essentially zero.

The number of parameters that must be within quite slim margins, its now thought, have grown and combine to an impossibly small probability.

It's not one in a billion. It's more like one in a billion billion billion.

There's really no such thing as 0 though. It's an asymtote... you can get infinitely close but never hit the x or y axis. Even if the chances were 1 in a gazillion, with how infinite space is, that would mean life is infinite as well. Just super spread out.

[Neal Romer]

There's really no such thing as 0 though. It's an asymtote... you can get infinitely close but never hit the x or y axis. Even if the chances were 1 in a gazillion, with how infinite space is, that would mean life is infinite as well. Just super spread out.

Infinity is not science. It is by definition immeasurable, incalculable, unprovable. Saying the universe is infinite is like saying the universe turns into strawberry cake just past the part we can see. How would you know? As far as life, try using infinity as an example anyway. Imagine the formula for life is "1." Now start counting from 1. Tell me when you reach 1 a second time.

Without knowing the exact initial cause of natural organic chemistry, how can one assume it repeats elsewhere? We dont even know what prompted it here.

Anyhoo, grab yourself a few razorblades and we'll talk more about it.

[tpols]

Infinity is not science. It is by definition immeasurable, incalculable, unprovable. Saying the universe is infinite is like saying the universe turns into strawberry cake just past the part we can see. How would you know? As far as life, try using infinity as an example anyway. Imagine the formula for life is "1." Now start counting from 1. Tell me when you reach 1 a second time.

Without knowing the exact initial cause of natural organic chemistry, how can one assume it repeats elsewhere? We dont even know what prompted it here.

Anyhoo, grab yourself a few razorblades and we'll talk more about it.

Alright then think it of this way.

The Universe / Multiverse is as close to being infinite in size as the probability of life is to being 0. One number is constantly expanding and the other shrinking.

It's silly to think a couple of apes on this water grass rock we live on are the only intelligent life when there's trillions of other stars with gazillion other rocks we've never even explored at all. Humans haven't even explored earth oceans yet really.

[Neal Romer]

Alright then think it of this way.

The Universe / Multiverse is as close to being infinite in size as the probability of life is to being 0. One number is constantly expanding and the other shrinking.

It's silly to think a couple of apes on this water grass rock we live on are the only intelligent life when there's trillions of other stars with gazillion other rocks we've never even explored at all. Humans haven't even explored earth oceans yet really.


Well.

I would like to make a few suggestions, but I really cant do these back and forths anymore without getting paid for my time.

[AussieSteve]

There's really no such thing as 0 though. It's an asymtote... you can get infinitely close but never hit the x or y axis. Even if the chances were 1 in a gazillion, with how infinite space is, that would mean life is infinite as well. Just super spread out.

There kind of is though.

Like the odds of flipping a coin and getting heads 100 times in a row is zero. It's not zero mathematically, but it is zero in any real sense.

[eliteballer]

Is it flawed?

I think space travel is much harder than we believe. We think we are gonna be cruising the universe at some point, and that’s where the alien visitor thing comes from. It probably is based on them having some crazy tech that lets them slip through wormholes n shite, or go much faster than light speed. Or they are 1000 years old and they don’t need to eat.

The part that defies science and logic, to me, is “Aliens are here.” That the possibility of life increases the more we realize how much is out there works for me, in a Skip scientist sort of way.

-Smak

Yes, I think the right question to ask is not if they exist, but if they've visited us because the distances between starts are so vast it's almost incomprehensible.

[Chick Stern]

Yes, I think the right question to ask is not if they exist, but if they've visited us because the distances between starts are so vast it's almost incomprehensible.

We started with rafts, now we have giant ships powered by nuclear power, made of metal, that float. It’s almost incomprehensible. The distances were giant and took months, now they take hours. Hydrofoils are insane. That was in many millenniums.
The Wright brothers started with a craft built of wood and cloth that went 100 feet. Now we have craft that slingshot between planets and visit outer planets. We’ve barely had a 100 years and have come very far. We’ll get there.

[Neal Romer]

We started with rafts, now we have giant ships powered by nuclear power, made of metal, that float. It’s almost incomprehensible. The distances were giant and took months, now they take hours. Hydrofoils are insane. That was in many millenniums.
The Wright brothers started with a craft built of wood and cloth that went 100 feet. Now we have craft that slingshot between planets and visit outer planets. We’ve barely had a 100 years and have come very far. We’ll get there.

We *may* get there, however some important things to consider are...


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[MrFonzworth]

We *may* get there, however some important things to consider are...

That's a good point. The big thing that convinced me, which you pointed out here, is...


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[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/aliens-real-theres-cover-documentary-162654511.html

[eliteballer]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ufo-whistleblower-believes-trump-2nd-100054252.html

[MrFonzworth]

Yahoo:roll:

[eliteballer]

Yahoo:roll:

You really don't have a life outside these boards do you? Sorry kid.

[GimmeThat]

that's like saying alzheimer can be triggered

[999Guy]

I can’t say anything about aliens.

However in late 2021, I flat out saw the stereotypical UFO disc shaped…thing, come wobble down to a level in my neighborhood I have to say would qualify as inside the neighborhood. It was that low, and that close. It wasn’t like a plane or helicopter flying over. It was well within a range where birds would fly.

And I saw the entire surface area of this thing. If I had the mind to, I could’ve counted the exact amount of lights that circled it underneath. It was designed with a dull black metal, and then this reflective black metal line black chrome. The underside was bulbish, the top of it was more flat, and had the biggest red light of all directly in the middle.

I was looking at this thing for more than five minutes, and less than 10 minutes. It just wobbled in place, then moved very slowly upwards diagonally until it was a black dot far away to my naked eye.


It’s intellectually easy to believe in UFOs, and therefore aliens. But it is nothing like having to witness it, against your will in person. I actually thought I believed in UFOs before that. But when it really came down to it, in real life, in real time, I was in denial of what I was seeing.

I feel blessed but also cursed with having seen it. It’s a very very difficult, weird thing to deal with. You naturally want to scream at the rooftops of what you say, but you quickly realize, not only do people not believe, they don’t want to believe. I had just a meager two UFO abduction stories I’d heard about in my lifetime before that, and I respected both stories as possible, but when actually seeing that shit, I tried to convince myself I saw a drone.

But it’s a very subconscious thing. OP, this is why that article is not mainstream. It’s simply too much. We can be indoctrinated from a young age to believe in a giant invisible magic man in the sky. So, again, intellectually, it can be dealt with. But humans are very emotionally driven creatures. And the emotion you get when you see this stuff is not necessarily just amazement and wonder. It's intimidating. And with our current understanding and perception of life? I don’t think humans want to deal with the reality of a thing, that came from god knows how many light years away, is 700 years old, has an IQ of 550, can read minds(so many people who have allegedly encountered different aliens them say this), and looks horror movie weird physically.

I think the technology and physiology is just naturally intimidated as ****. And some lifetime Air Force, Navy, Army, CIA and DoD people know this. They know it’s too much.

I think the only reason we are hearing about this in this way, is because the paradigm of global power is so different. Corporations have eroded individual power players to such a level. The Mafia, KKK, CIA, and FBI in America used go to legitimately control the country in different ways behind the scenes in America. And the CIA and FBI used to have lifetime appointed directors. A very small group of people could legitimately make big moves. This is likely how JFK was killed in such an ridiculous way, and no one could put the pieces together on how.

That era is gone. There’s not really true shadow governments anymore to control this type of information. Not to say the mafia or KKK knew about this. But you know what, they probably could’ve if they wanted to. They knew about a lot more than the average citizen.

All this is to say, it’s probably better off this post sounds crazy to some. Because it’s just too much, ironically even for me.

And by the way, in the same zip code a year later , I saw a light in the night sky make a movement that can't be explained by any tech on this earth. Just an insane series of movements. A year after that, I found a very, very obscure reddit post from someone who lived in my exact zip code claiming to have been looking at a UFO at 3 AM in their backyard for like half an hour. And they had pics and videos. The post had zero comments. I didn't even feel the need to post or reach out. By that point, I was just like, 'Yeah, that happens sometimes'. So, I don't have any witnesses, but I have my own satisfying confirmation with that.

[Hey Yo]

You really don't have a life outside these boards do you? Sorry kid.

Says the weirdo who spends everyday followin' Chewing around, calling him poopsie and saying he weighs 400 pounds.

[sdot_thadon]

I can’t say anything about aliens.

However in late 2021, I flat out saw the stereotypical UFO disc shaped…thing, come wobble down to a level in my neighborhood I have to say would qualify as inside the neighborhood. It was that low, and that close. It wasn’t like a plane or helicopter flying over. It was well within a range where birds would fly.

And I saw the entire surface area of this thing. If I had the mind to, I could’ve counted the exact amount of lights that circled it underneath. It was designed with a dull black metal, and then this reflective black metal line black chrome. The underside was bulbish, the top of it was more flat, and had the biggest red light of all directly in the middle.

I was looking at this thing for more than five minutes, and less than 10 minutes. It just wobbled in place, then moved very slowly upwards diagonally until it was a black dot far away to my naked eye.


It’s intellectually easy to believe in UFOs, and therefore aliens. But it is nothing like having to witness it, against your will in person. I actually thought I believed in UFOs before that. But when it really came down to it, in real life, in real time, I was in denial of what I was seeing.

I feel blessed but also cursed with having seen it. It’s a very very difficult, weird thing to deal with. You naturally want to scream at the rooftops of what you say, but you quickly realize, not only do people not believe, they don’t want to believe. I had just a meager two UFO abduction stories I’d heard about in my lifetime before that, and I respected both stories as possible, but when actually seeing that shit, I tried to convince myself I saw a drone.

But it’s a very subconscious thing. OP, this is why that article is not mainstream. It’s simply too much. We can be indoctrinated from a young age to believe in a giant invisible magic man in the sky. So, again, intellectually, it can be dealt with. But humans are very emotionally driven creatures. And the emotion you get when you see this stuff is not necessarily just amazement and wonder. It's intimidating. And with our current understanding and perception of life? I don’t think humans want to deal with the reality of a thing, that came from god knows how many light years away, is 700 years old, has an IQ of 550, can read minds(so many people who have allegedly encountered different aliens them say this), and looks horror movie weird physically.

I think the technology and physiology is just naturally intimidated as ****. And some lifetime Air Force, Navy, Army, CIA and DoD people know this. They know it’s too much.

I think the only reason we are hearing about this in this way, is because the paradigm of global power is so different. Corporations have eroded individual power players to such a level. The Mafia, KKK, CIA, and FBI in America used go to legitimately control the country in different ways behind the scenes in America. And the CIA and FBI used to have lifetime appointed directors. A very small group of people could legitimately make big moves. This is likely how JFK was killed in such an ridiculous way, and no one could put the pieces together on how.

That era is gone. There’s not really true shadow governments anymore to control this type of information. Not to say the mafia or KKK knew about this. But you know what, they probably could’ve if they wanted to. They knew about a lot more than the average citizen.

All this is to say, it’s probably better off this post sounds crazy to some. Because it’s just too much, ironically even for me.

And by the way, in the same zip code a year later , I saw a light in the night sky make a movement that can't be explained by any tech on this earth. Just an insane series of movements. A year after that, I found a very, very obscure reddit post from someone who lived in my exact zip code claiming to have been looking at a UFO at 3 AM in their backyard for like half an hour. And they had pics and videos. The post had zero comments. I didn't even feel the need to post or reach out. By that point, I was just like, 'Yeah, that happens sometimes'. So, I don't have any witnesses, but I have my own satisfying confirmation with that.

I think the public has been conditioned to react a certain judgmental way towards people who come out with their stories. And I think the reason for the cover up and refusal to accept news being presented now is the Pandoras box it opens. If we were led astray when it comes to something as existentially monumental as other races of beings we weren't taught about, then what else on smaller levels has been shoveled on us. All bets are off at the point people accept something like that.

[GimmeThat]

reminds me of that trick question, just which bar isn't a gay bar