Why is Phoenix so ass?

[Real Men Wear Green]

I've never been so wrong about a team as I was when they traded for Durant.

They are at home.

Tatum is not playing.

They cannot afford to lose.

Their playoff lives are on the line.

The Celtics have nothing to play for.

And here they are threatening to give up 140 points in regulation.

[RRR3]

Poorly built team and stupid coach. Deadly combination

[SouBeachTalents]

Because they were put together like a casual fan would build a team on 2K, just big name scorers. Having their best player be 36 and have no leadership abilities while having to also take on probably the worst contact in history doesn't help matters.

[RRR3]

Because they were put together like a casual fan would build a team on 2K, just big name scorers. Having their best player be 36 and have no leadership abilities while having to also take on probably the worst contact in history doesn't help matters.
It's basically what would happen if 3ball was a gm.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's basically what would happen if 3ball was a gm.
I remember his dumbass predicted the Suns would win the championship last year :lol So I have no doubt he would build a team just like this if he were a GM.

[RRR3]

I remember his dumbass predicted the Suns would win the championship last year :lol So I have no doubt he would build a team just like this if he were a GM.
Of course. A team built around 3 "expert jumpshooters" who specialize in the midrange and generally aren't primary ballhandlers, it's his wet dream.

[warriorfan]

Hmmm I wonder

@Kblaze

@Dmavs

[Im Still Ballin]

Needs more rebounding, rim pressure, and playmaking. Some defense would be nice also.

[warriorfan]

3 players who play the same position who neither have any leadership or grit while going into the second apron to get it.



I mean who could have ever seen this coming?

[Norcaliblunt]

They’ve crapped out on every role player signing and coach hiring.

Plus Booker has always been a little overrated.

And teams like Boston are just way better.

They suck.

[iamgine]

Thye're good offensively, just bad defensively. Terrible at stopping fast breaks. Doesn't force turnovers.

[Wardell Curry]

Hmmm I wonder

@Kblaze

@Dmavs

:roll:

[Real Men Wear Green]

I realize that there's an axe to grind but there's no way this is about Beal or that his contract and situation is even the main factor. He didn't even play last night but when he does he's a 17ppg on 50% third option. Definitely not worth the max but not the root of all evil. Beal should be the reason they only win 48 games and are out in the second round instead of winning the conference. He's not the outright cancer that has infected this team. He's overpaid and can't be traded unless he finds the situation to be perfect. That doesn't make him the guy solely responsible for their complete failure to compete. There is a team-wide problem that he isn't the solution to but also is not solely responsible for.

[warriorfan]

I realize that there's an axe to grind but there's no way this is about Beal or that his contract and situation is even the main factor. He didn't even play last night but when he does he's a 17ppg on 50% third option. Definitely not worth the max but not the root of all evil. Beal should be the reason they only win 48 games and are out in the second round instead of winning the conference. He's not the outright cancer that has infected this team. He's overpaid and can't be traded unless he finds the situation to be perfect. That doesn't make him the guy solely responsible for their complete failure to compete. There is a team-wide problem that he isn't the solution to but also is not solely responsible for.

So paying a guy 50 million to be a one dimensional role player while going into the second apron has nothing to do with a team wide problem?

If you have a team wide problem and can’t do anything about it because Beal and his contract literally killed any flexibility to make any moves….And is actively flexing his no trade clause when the team has tried to trade him?

And this isn’t a Beal problem?

lol. Interesting.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So paying a guy 50 million to be a one dimensional role player while going into the second apron has nothing to do with a team wide problem?

If you have a team wide problem and can’t do anything about it because Beal and his contract literally killed any flexibility to make any moves….And is actively flexing his no trade clause when the team has tried to trade him?

And this isn’t a Beal problem?

lol. Interesting. There is a difference between having"nothing to do" with a problem and not being"solely responsible." When a whole team plays overall bad defense, doesn't rebound, has too many turnovers, or whatever other problem it's not just the fault of the shooting guard. Him being overpaid and the team being ridiculously expensive is an issue off the court not the problem in the court. The problems on the court are about how they play as a team. They knew what he gets paid and that he has a no-trade clause when they brought him in.

[Wardell Curry]

So paying a guy 50 million to be a one dimensional role player while going into the second apron has nothing to do with a team wide problem?

If you have a team wide problem and can’t do anything about it because Beal and his contract literally killed any flexibility to make any moves….And is actively flexing his no trade clause when the team has tried to trade him?

And this isn’t a Beal problem?

lol. Interesting.

:roll:

[rawimpact]

None of the starters on that roster is known as a leader.

[Phoenix]

None of the starters on that roster is known as a leader.

Beat me to it, and that's why the most successful teams KD has played on someone else was the locker room/on-court/emotional engine of the team. Westbrook in OKC, Curry and Dray on the Warriors.

[Wally450]

I never thought Phoenix should've traded for Durant. I thought they were a good enough team to get back to the Finals without him. Now they've completely decimated that team to get Durant there and they're worse off now, and into the future.

[Meticode]

The team has no clear identity and the coach is a bad fit for them.

Also, I never felt the team was put together to mesh well. Namely adding Beal. Booker and Durant was fine.

[tpols]

Because they have no point guard, no center, no bench, and mid role players at best.

Last night KD put up 30 on 69/75/100 splits. Wasn't his fault. Booker stunk it up but I'm assuming Jrue did that. Beal didn't even play. Can't win with a 2 man team vs stacked Boston.

The Celtics don't miss much of a beat without Tatum honestly. if Jrue, White, Zingis, Brown and Al start they still have elite 5 point spacing and offense with the same elite defense.

[999Guy]

Bridges and Cam Johnson were busting ass on defense nightly in a way Durant has never done.

Them combined were and are so better than one old Kevin Durant.

Even offensively they’re more valuable. But the defense makes it like losing an MVP level player. Bridges and Johnson were really good in Phoenix, and very young.

Plus Payne, CP3 and Landale were good too. Phoenix FO is stupid and did the stereotypical thing of blowing their team up for big recognizable names. I wonder if they’re even selling tickets like they were in 2022.

Basically old Durant is very overrated because even young Durant was somewhat overrated.


To say nothing of super redundant, one dimensional, no-defense playing Bradley Beal.

I feel for Devin Booker. They sabotaged his prime.

[Phoenix]

The team has no clear identity and the coach is a bad fit for them.

Also, I never felt the team was put together to mesh well. Namely adding Beal. Booker and Durant was fine.

They'd be better with an active, rim running clean-up big in place of Beal. Some of these teams fall in love with names and ppg.

[SouBeachTalents]

That'd be better with an active, rim running clean-up big in place of Beal. Some of these teams fall in love with names and ppg.
It's wild to me though an NBA front office would believe Bradley Beal, not even factoring in that contract, would be the best choice to add to a team that already had KD/Booker. Like I said before, that's a legitimate casual fan mindset. You add in the contract on top of that, just :lol

[highwhey]

excellent question OP. it's almost like no one, especially a suns fan, has already gone over this millions of times and explained thoroughly why this team needs to be broken apart and start over with a fresh slate.

[Phoenix]

It's wild to me though an NBA front office would believe Bradley Beal, not even factoring in that contract, would be the best choice to add to a team that already had KD/Booker. Like I said before, that's a legitimate casual fan mindset. You add in the contract on top of that, just :lol

It's the kind of team 3bot would put together. Like R3 said earlier....high PPG and expert jumpshooter wankery.

[RRR3]

It's the kind of team 3bot would put together. Like R3 said earlier....high PPG and expert jumpshooter wankery.
Guarantee he’s completely stumped as to how they’re not good. Guarantee.

[marLeY baLL]

PHOENIX, AZ

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[Real Men Wear Green]

Guarantee he’s completely stumped as to how they’re not good. Guarantee.
Personally would not have been shocked if they weren't very good but I don't think I'm the only one that would never have predicted this kind of season while Durant is still AllNBA caliber. They're below .500 and to get thrashed like that at home with all they have at stake vs an opponent that doesn't have the guy that leads their team in points rebounds and assists? It wasn't even slightly competitive. I am sure that the leadership is terrible but this is seriously screwed up.

[Norcaliblunt]

Bridges and Cam Johnson were busting ass on defense nightly in a way Durant has never done.

Them combined were and are so better than one old Kevin Durant.

Even offensively they’re more valuable. But the defense makes it like losing an MVP level player. Bridges and Johnson were really good in Phoenix, and very young.

Plus Payne, CP3 and Landale were good too. Phoenix FO is stupid and did the stereotypical thing of blowing their team up for big recognizable names. I wonder if they’re even selling tickets like they were in 2022.

Basically old Durant is very overrated because even young Durant was somewhat overrated.


To say nothing of super redundant, one dimensional, no-defense playing Bradley Beal.

I feel for Devin Booker. They sabotaged his prime.

Naw if they kept Bridges and Johnson they’d still be in the same situation.

Booker ain’t that guy and CP3 became old and washed.

Ayton got his contact and started coasting.

Yeah they could’ve made a better deal happen for what they gave up but a Booker, Bridges, Johnson led team isn’t going anywhere.

[highwhey]

Naw if they kept Bridges and Johnson they’d still be in the same situation.

Booker ain’t that guy and CP3 became old and washed.

Ayton got his contact and started coasting.

Yeah they could’ve made a better deal happen for what they gave up but a Booker, Bridges, Johnson led team isn’t going anywhere.

not the same, they would still have CHEMISTRY, YOUTH, and MOMENTUM + TONS OF MORE ASSETS.

Would they be contenders? not likely, but you can't say they wouldn't be in a much more favorable position than they current find themselves in.

[Wardell Curry]

It's wild to me though an NBA front office would believe Bradley Beal, not even factoring in that contract, would be the best choice to add to a team that already had KD/Booker. Like I said before, that's a legitimate casual fan mindset. You add in the contract on top of that, just :lol

There are a substantial number of league executives and coaches that are far dumber about basketball than most people would believe.

Maybe this will finally come to light. Lebron literally called this out on national TV yesterday when he mentioned how many great former players don’t know the game and the that’s a big reason they got washed sooner than him. They were athletic and once they lost that they had nothing to offer.

[3ba11]

They got that old man energy.

Old players lack the "thrust" (JJ Redick term) that gives a team energy.

[RRR3]

They got that old man energy.

Old players lack the "thrust" (JJ Redick term) that gives a team energy.
You told us they would win a ring :roll:


STUPIDBALL :yaohappy:

[Norcaliblunt]

not the same, they would still have CHEMISTRY, YOUTH, and MOMENTUM + TONS OF MORE ASSETS.

Would they be contenders? not likely, but you can't say they wouldn't be in a much more favorable position than they current find themselves in.

Idk I lived through 10 years of botched lottery picks, Booker putting up empty numbers on shitty teams, Bridges melting down in the finals / the second round against Dallas, Cam Johnson hurt, and coach after coach.

I guess you could hypothetically say their future might be brighter with a few draft picks, but once Chris Paul was finished so was this team that’s a fact.

Moves were going to have to be made. Did they make the right moves? Prolly not. But they tried and that’s way more than Sarver ever did.

[SouBeachTalents]

You told us they would win a ring :roll:


STUPIDBALL :yaohappy:
Yep, he predicted they were going to win the title last year and they got swept in the first round :lol

[RRR3]

Yep, he predicted they were going to win the title last year and they got swept in the first round :lol
Expert jumpshooting :yaohappy:

[90sgoat]

They got that old man energy.

Old players lack the "thrust" (JJ Redick term) that gives a team energy.

We need you to post more 3ball.

I'm sorry I told you to get new material, it was wrong of me.

[FKAri]

Expert jumpshooting :yaohappy:

And they all thrive Off-ball :yaohappy:

Of course they have terrible defense but their offense needs an on-ball guy to get the role players easy shots. Bradley Beal's their best option for that and is trying to do it but that isn't his strength.

[RRR3]

And they all thrive Off-ball :yaohappy:

Of course they have terrible defense but their offense needs an on-ball guy to get the role players easy shots. Bradley Beal's their best option for that and is trying to do it but that isn't his strength.
Generally funny how someone built a team exactly how 3ball would and they ****ing suck :oldlol:

Literal proof he’s an idiot.

[tontoz]

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[GimmeThat]

if the women sponsored male team is ass to you, imagine the amount of ******* that are currently employed within the NBA

[999Guy]

Naw if they kept Bridges and Johnson they’d still be in the same situation.

Booker ain’t that guy and CP3 became old and washed.

Ayton got his contact and started coasting.

Yeah they could’ve made a better deal happen for what they gave up but a Booker, Bridges, Johnson led team isn’t going anywhere.

This current shitty team is worse than the Suns before they even got CP3. And you say they wouldn't be better?

[tontoz]

Commemorating his 1 pt game in 30 minutes against Boston.





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[Real Men Wear Green]

I think he's mailing it in. In an ideal world someone making that much money gives 100% every night regardless of how he feels but in reality some guys just aren't wired that way. For the sake of his own pride in his abilities and mental health he should make a list of teams/teammates he is willing to play with/for and give it to Phoenix this offseason so that both sides can move on. He's got to be pissed off at the organization and they aren't going to do anything to make him happier. He's not worth the max but he is a good player that can help a team for a few years if that team can ignore what they're actually paying him.

[FKAri]

I think he's mailing it in. In an ideal world someone making that much money gives 100% every night regardless of how he feels but in reality some guys just aren't wired that way. For the sake of his own pride in his abilities and mental health he should make a list of teams/teammates he is willing to play with/for and give it to Phoenix this offseason so that both sides can move on. He's got to be pissed off at the organization and they aren't going to do anything to make him happier. He's not worth the max but he is a good player that can help a team for a few years if that team can ignore what they're actually paying him.

Based on what I've seen, he's not mailing it in. He's trying to be what Harden is for the Clippers but he's not that level of playmaker(but he's still better than anyone else on the roster). Meanwhile he's struggling with his own scoring since he's a midrange guy who operates in the same spaces as KD and Booker. Roster makes 0 sense for him.



Generally funny how someone built a team exactly how 3ball would and they ****ing suck :oldlol:

Literal proof he’s an idiot.

I just realized all 3 of them are off-ball players who are at their best in the mid range. This is 3ball's dream team right here.

[warriorfan]

I think he's mailing it in. In an ideal world someone making that much money gives 100% every night regardless of how he feels but in reality some guys just aren't wired that way. For the sake of his own pride in his abilities and mental health he should make a list of teams/teammates he is willing to play with/for and give it to Phoenix this offseason so that both sides can move on. He's got to be pissed off at the organization and they aren't going to do anything to make him happier. He's not worth the max but he is a good player that can help a team for a few years if that team can ignore what they're actually paying him.

“It’s a good deal if you can ignore how much you are paying for it.”


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Real Men Wear Green]

“It’s a good deal if you can ignore how much you are paying for it.”


:roll: :roll: :roll: Nowhere did I write that or was a good deal. If you insist on being the burr in my shoelace you should at least be attacking me for things I really said instead of whatever you think you are reading due to your narcotic-altered perception of reality.

[Axe]

Nowhere did I write that or was a good deal. If you insist on being the burr in my shoelace you should at least be attacking me for things I really said instead of whatever you think you are reading due to your narcotic-altered perception of reality.
:milton

[Jasper]

i saw a youtube vid of who is better kd or giannis

imo giannis if they play one on one.

giannis defense would over whelm kd and durant could never defend giannis.

booker is the suns... but they never filled out their roster like they did their champion western team.

[ArbitraryWater]

When they traded Paul it was gg. They were competitive with him.

KD needs an absurd amount of stackedness around him to not spread his cancer and have everyone fall asleep to his iso tune ball

[1~Gibson~1]

No real leaders on this team

[bdonovan]

I wrote about this 6 year ago on this forum when Durant left GSW that he would never win another ring. Some of you back then thought he and Kyrie would win on the Nets- I said they wouldn't come close. And they didn't. Same with the Suns.

Durant is a Casual Fan's dream come true. If you watch for entertainment, not excellence in all aspects of the game, he is your guy.

There are 4 aspects to the game: Individual Offense, Ind. Defense, Team Offense, Team Defense. He excels in only one of them - Individual Offense.

I wrote for years on this sub- breaking down Durant's deficiencies on the defensive end- which are fatal. I also wrote how he refuses to engage in ANY of the tasks in team offense- whether setting screens, off-ball movement, precise passing. Instead he rests well beyond the arc when he doesn't have the ball, forcing his teammates to play 4 against 5. He brings down his teammates and makes it harder for them to score, while breaking team defense repeatedly by refusing to stay on his man (settling for improvised zone so he can conserve energy).

When Durant was on GSW, that team had a better record when Durant was injured in the reg and postseason. That said, to the extent he added value in some matchups, was because GSW was ridiculously sound to make up for his deficiencies. GSW was #1 in defense before Durant arrived; so they knew about switching, covering for others. Curry and crew knew how to score 4 against 5. As it was Durant never pushed GSW "over the edge" to win the ring; GSW was winning rings; there was one finals where LeBron and Kyrie played out of their mind to win.

Durant is an elite scorer and a dud in most other facets of the game.

[NBAGOAT]

Beals salary killing team building. Like people said there’s still a good player in tjere(huge diminishing returns on this team however). Can’t find a legit center to cover their defense. Can’t spend money on a starting lvl pg(tyus jones is not) and/or a 3nD wing. Booker has had a bad year kd still good but not that impactful(there are over 10 guys better than kd). Again having 3 scorers who aren’t that strong at playmaking/defending/rebounding etc is going see diminishing returns,

Phoenix media is throwing out Beal as one of the worst trades they’ve ever made because of how many years he has left and his ntc even though wizards didn’t get shit for him really