Carmelo notified that he'll be elected into the HOF

[Hey Yo]

Ten-Time NBA All-Star Carmelo Anthony has been notified that he's been elected into the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame Class of 2025, sources tell ESPN's Shams Charania.

Anthony, a six-time ALL-NBA selection, was drafted third overall by the Denver Nuggets in 2003, a draft which featured LeBron James going first overall to the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Dwyane Wade going fifth to the Miami Heat.

Anthony quickly developed into one of the league's premier scorers, averaging 21 points per game over the course of his rookie season. He would go on to average 24.8 points, 6.3 rebounds and 3.1 assists over eight seasons and 564 games for the Nuggets, which included a Western Conference Finals loss to the Los Angeles Lakers during the 2008-09 season.

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44505587/sources-nba-star-carmelo-anthony-elected-hall-fame

[rawimpact]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level?

[Xiao Yao You]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level?

Carmelo was always overrated so why not?

[Meticode]

I think it's a combination of Carmelo being overrated because of his scoring ability and people just don't like Dwight. To me Dwight deserves to be in over Carmelo. The only thing Carmelo really has over Dwight is scoring and Dwights defense goes under appreciated oftentimes. Dwight as more accolades.

Carmelo Anthony:

10x NBA all star
2x All NBA second-team
4x All NBA third-team
2013 NBA scoring champion
NBA all rookie first team
NCAA Champion

Dwight Howard:

8x NBA all star
5x All NBA first-team
1x All NBA second-team
2x All NBA third-team
3x NBA defensive player of the year
4x All defensive first team
1x All defensive second team
5x rebounding champion
2x block leader
NBA all rookie first team
NBA Champion

[Kblaze8855]

Doesn’t feel like he’s been gone five years but a 10 time All-Star who’s like the ninth leading scorer of all time is a pretty indisputable first ballot Hall of Famer.

that said Dominique I believe was even higher when he retired and they made him wait a little. One wrong obviously doesn’t justify another though. That’s the kind of bullshit voters use to justify almost nobody getting in unanimously to the baseball Hall of Fame.

Youre either a Hall of Famer or you aren’t. There’s really no argument against Carmelo or Dominique or somebody like Dwight. People just get too personal and try to make points and instead of being honest

[Real Men Wear Green]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level? If they wanted to voters could have put them both in, Howard not making it isn't about getting Melo in. I don't know this for a fact but ESPN and other sports media largely ignored the sexual assault case against Howard last year. It was dropped but O suspect it was a factor that kept him off first ballot.

[John8204]

Do people on this forum have brain worms? Carmelo is top ten all-time in NBA points and twelve in NBA/ABA points. He has 300 less points than Shaq who is the most dominant player ever according to many of you. Nobody has Carmelo in their top 20 all-time. Is the idea that he's a Hall of Famer what overrates him...because if you think that you are on drugs.

We also don't know the Hall of Fame class yet...we just know Carmelo is headlining it because...yeah he should.

[Xiao Yao You]

Do people on this forum have brain worms? Carmelo is top ten all-time in NBA points and twelve in NBA/ABA points. He has 300 less points than Shaq who is the most dominant player ever according to many of you. Nobody has Carmelo in their top 20 all-time. Is the idea that he's a Hall of Famer what overrates him...because if you think that you are on drugs.

We also don't know the Hall of Fame class yet...we just know Carmelo is headlining it because...yeah he should.

He was talked about as one of the top guys in the league when he was just another in a long line of high scoring small forwards not one of the top players in the league. Better than dantley, english, king...?

[tpols]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level?


I don't think Dwights a part of the banana boat crew with Chris Paul, Lebron, and Dwayne Wade.

https://media.gq.com/photos/559d4139a1bd93445605541b/1:1/w_537,h_537,c_limit/NBA-bboat-lede.jpg



The Banana Boat Team, Banana Boat Squad or Banana Boat Crew is a hypothetical pop culture NBA superteam, consisting of LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Carmelo Anthony, and Chris Paul


Politics as usual.

Super Zesty. I'm surprised Dwight didn't get in. Maybe he was too freaky?

[John8204]

He was talked about as one of the top guys in the league when he was just another in a long line of high scoring small forwards not one of the top players in the league. Better than dantley, english, king...?

Is that something that actually happened though. I don't think anyone ever put Carmelo as a top five player in the league. I agree that Melo is on the level of an English, Dantley etc but they also didn't get the vitriol and hate Melo got. Melo is the headliner over Howard, Melo is a top 75 player who also didn't get busted for DV against a transgender relationship.

I don't get why Melo has to be punished because people don't and didn't want to have the serious conversation about Dwight and his sexuality and criminal behavior.

[Phoenix]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level?

I don't think it was either/or? Dwight's absolutely a HOFer, and I suspect whatever logic kept him off the top 75( he's deserving of that accolade as well) is also being applied here.

[John8204]

Has it even been confirmed that Dwight didn't make the Hall...because I'm pretty sure Melo isn't the only one getting in.

[Xiao Yao You]

Is that something that actually happened though. I don't think anyone ever put Carmelo as a top five player in the league. I agree that Melo is on the level of an English, Dantley etc but they also didn't get the vitriol and hate Melo got. Melo is the headliner over Howard, Melo is a top 75 player who also didn't get busted for DV against a transgender relationship.

I don't get why Melo has to be punished because people don't and didn't want to have the serious conversation about Dwight and his sexuality and criminal behavior.

He was hyped as one of the top guys and he wasnt just had the top guys as his bffs and he believed it himself.

Ad and english were never hyped as top guys like carmelo and dominique

Have more of a problem with him forcing his way to ny, forcing a stop to linsanity, starter only etc. Than i do with dwight

[L.Kizzle]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level?

What do you mean over Dwight? They don't chose one person per year. Dwight will be announced Friday or Saturday when the official selections are revealed.

[sdot_thadon]

What do you mean over Dwight? They don't chose one person per year. Dwight will be announced Friday or Saturday when the official selections are revealed.

Yeah normally there's a list of guys that gets revealed I'm sure.

[L.Kizzle]

Doesn’t feel like he’s been gone five years but a 10 time All-Star who’s like the ninth leading scorer of all time is a pretty indisputable first ballot Hall of Famer.

that said Dominique I believe was even higher when he retired and they made him wait a little. One wrong obviously doesn’t justify another though. That’s the kind of bullshit voters use to justify almost nobody getting in unanimously to the baseball Hall of Fame.

Youre either a Hall of Famer or you aren’t. There’s really no argument against Carmelo or Dominique or somebody like Dwight. People just get too personal and try to make points and instead of being honest
Dominique had to wait, I believe one season.. crazy considering he retired as the 6th leading scorer or All-Time.

And, it's actually down to a 3 year wait to become eligible.

Also, interesting situation. Buck Williams has been retired for almost 30 year and not only gets nominated but is a finalists. He said he was surprised himself to even be nominated.
On the other hand, Amare Stoudemire was not named a finalists.

[L.Kizzle]

Yeah normally there's a list of guys that gets revealed I'm sure.

On another note, while I did say they don't chose one guy per year, there was a only one person chosen I think like 10 years ago (or maybe 1 player) and like 3 coaches. Most boring year ever. Maybe 2007 or something like that.

[John8204]

He was hyped as one of the top guys and he wasnt just had the top guys as his bffs and he believed it himself.

Ad and english were never hyped as top guys like carmelo and dominique

Have more of a problem with him forcing his way to ny, forcing a stop to linsanity, starter only etc. Than i do with dwight

You're not wrong for not liking Melo, I get it. But it was never hype with him it was reputation and being in a George Karl system in Denver and then going to the Knicks...he wasn't ever really put in a situation where he wasn't going to have all of this baggage. Melo and Wilkins are players who should be looked at as top fifty guys.

Dwight vs Melo thing is really stupid though because the media can't report on a gay basketball player who is not out but did get busted for domestic violence. The media has no interest in figuring out how to deal with that moral pretzel, so Melo is getting the air-time and focus.

[Xiao Yao You]

You're not wrong for not liking Melo, I get it. But it was never hype with him it was reputation and being in a George Karl system in Denver and then going to the Knicks...he wasn't ever really put in a situation where he wasn't going to have all of this baggage. Melo and Wilkins are players who should be looked at as top fifty guys.

Dwight vs Melo thing is really stupid though because the media can't report on a gay basketball player who is not out but did get busted for domestic violence. The media has no interest in figuring out how to deal with that moral pretzel, so Melo is getting the air-time and focus.
Id take take ad, english and king and they arent top 50. Hyped and overrated. Carmelo always thoughtbhe was someone special from the time he was a rookie and said ak shouldnt have been an all starvover him and thatvhe was the sole reason denver improved when they added miller and camby. Wilkins being athletic didnt make him better than other high scoring small forwards

[Nowoco]

Melo would get in the HoF on three different careers, never mind the one he did have. His College, Olympic and NBA careers, all three, are HoF worthy.

[Phoenix]

Melo would get in the HoF on three different careers, never mind the one he did have. His College, Olympic and NBA careers, all three, are HoF worthy.

Truth.

[Xiao Yao You]

No american should get in based on olympic career. Usa should win

[warriorfan]

Melo obviously doesn’t have a ring but he pretty much checks every single other box possible when looking at HoF criteria.


If anyone is the slightest shocked by this they are either insane or just don’t really know how basketball hall of fame works.

[Wally450]

Melo would get in the HoF on three different careers, never mind the one he did have. His College, Olympic and NBA careers, all three, are HoF worthy.

This. Say what you want about Carmelo's NBA career, but his college and Olympic career are enough to get him in on their own.

[L.Kizzle]

Melo would get in the HoF on three different careers, never mind the one he did have. His College, Olympic and NBA careers, all three, are HoF worthy.
He was a one and done Collegiate guy. Not like a 3 or 4 year player the generation before him.
That's like saying Kawhi Leonard is the greatest Raptrr because he helped them win their only championship.
A guy like Ralph Sampson probably got in for his Collegiate career more so then his NBA career. His pro years weren't bad at all, just injured after his 4th season but college he's a 3 time player of the year.

[Nowoco]

He was a one and done Collegiate guy.

Did you see what he did in that "one and done" year for Syracuse?

[Real Men Wear Green]

So they chose Carmelo over Dwight? I mean offensively no doubt Carmelo in his peak was better, but are we really going to underrate Dwight to this level? It's being retorted that Howard made it. Where did the idea that he dismissed come from?

[L.Kizzle]

Did you see what he did in that "one and done" year for Syracuse?
I saw it in real time. Still was one and done.
Most players consider at the top of the all-time great college guys players 4 or 3 seasons.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I saw it in real time. Still was one and done.
Most players consider at the top of the all-time great college guys players 4 or 3 seasons.
Depends on how many players you want to put on that GOAT list. If you insist on a top ten college career then whatever but the reality is that you only get one player every year that is the best player on the best team. Anthony did it as a freshman and it's as memorable as anything that has happened in the NCAA for as long as I've been following basketball. He led his team to a championship and especially in the modern era of the most talented players leaving as soon as they know they'll be in the first round demanding that a guy be a three or four year player isn't realistic or even important. How many great college players get more than one championship? UConn just recently, Villanova I think qualifies although from '16 to '18 the team likely had important differences (how much did Brunson Bridges Hart and Divincenzo roles change/were they on both teams?) and then you have to go back almost two decades to Horford's Florida teams where he played with Joakim Noah... so if you set a multiple championship strandard and pretend (incorrectly) that all (or really, any) of them did as much in their championship runs as Melo did for Syracuse you still only have what, 5 to 10 college HoF worthy careers over the last 20+ seasons? That's a higher standard than we really see from basketball.

And you don't have to quantify it: a freshman led his team to a Championship. That was an all-time great level of accomplishment just in and of itself. It should be and is appreciated and no one should hold it against his career that he managed to do everything he could want to do in the NCAA in one year.

[L.Kizzle]

Depends on how many players you want to put on that GOAT list. If you insist on a top ten college career then whatever but the reality is that you only get one player every year that is the best player on the best team. Anthony did it as a freshman and it's as memorable as anything that has happened in the NCAA for as long as I've been following basketball. He led his team to a championship and especially in the modern era of the most talented players leaving as soon as they know they'll be in the first round demanding that a guy be a three or four year player isn't realistic or even important. How many great college players get more than one championship? UConn just recently, Villanova I think qualifies although from '16 to '18 the team likely had important differences (how much did Brunson Bridges Hart and Divincenzo roles change/were they on both teams?) and then you have to go back almost two decades to Horford's Florida teams where he played with Joakim Noah... so if you set a multiple championship strandard and pretend (incorrectly) that all (or really, any) of them did as much in their championship runs as Melo did for Syracuse you still only have what, 5 to 10 college HoF worthy careers over the last 20+ seasons? That's a higher standard than we really see from basketball.

And you don't have to quantify it: a freshman led his team to a Championship. That was an all-time great level of accomplishment just in and of itself. It should be and is appreciated and no one should hold it against his career that he managed to do everything he could want to do in the NCAA in one year.
I never he wasn't one of the tops but when you look at guys likeLew Alcindor, Walton, Elvin Hayes, Oscar and these guys who were high level college players for 4 seasons it's hard for Melo to creep into anyone's top 50 college players.

Ranking them as seasons is different. Probably a top 10-ish season.

[Xiao Yao You]

The real ad who also coached carmelo in denver. I doubt carmelo would give gim any props though because he was all about carmelo

Karl Malone: “I became the professional athlete I am today because of one athlete. He taught me how to be a professional—my mentor, my sensei, my man, Adrian Dantley. Ice your knees. Ice bath. Yes sir, Mr. Dantley—that’s who I wanted to be like.”