How Trump outsmarted China

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbFyq0DlBx0

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxCmkJ926PI

[TheMan]

I checked out when watching the first video and the two "experts" cited were Stephen Miller and Jeanine "I don't care about my 401K" Pirro :roll:

https://y.yarn.co/180f910f-e26e-4677-ac85-d77893735874_text.gif

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/yNj9hAF84Ys?si=W1i8DYuHGjCtqlEZ

[86Celtics]

https://theanfieldnoise.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/a/4abfb1243f27d5bf393c89cf2f78cc4999db2c44.jpeg

[n00bie]

Let's be honest. Trump got spooked about the bond market crashing and he removed the tariffs from everyone but China to save himself the embarrassment.

I cant even imagine what China needs from the U.S.

Americans on the other hand.. will suffer. The majority of Americans still dont know how tariffs work.

[Off the Court]

This whole thing is a nightmare. China and the US need to be working together, with each other. Not against each other. There is absolutely no reason to pit ourselves against each other.

[TheMan]

Let's be honest. Trump got spooked about the bond market crashing and he removed the tariffs from everyone but China to save himself the embarrassment.

I cant even imagine what China needs from the U.S.

Americans on the other hand.. will suffer. The majority of Americans still dont know how tariffs work.

China upped the ante matching Trump's 125% tariffs on US goods...they don't GAF.

Of course 19-87 IQ Lakers gonna post Fox News and some goofball MAGA cultist as his sources :roll: Meanwhile everyone else sees that China is the real winner in this idiotic trade war vs the world Trump started. Dude is talking about bombing Yemen, Mexico, Iran and taking Gaza, Canada, Greenland and Panama. The US still thinking the world looks at China as a threat though :lol

[j3lademaster]

Let's be honest. Trump got spooked about the bond market crashing and he removed the tariffs from everyone but China to save himself the embarrassment.

I cant even imagine what China needs from the U.S.

Americans on the other hand.. will suffer. The majority of Americans still dont know how tariffs work.

You think we understand tariffs? We don't understand basic math. (https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fcmon-dems-why-are-you-so-stupid-v0-37ufh5j9q2ue1.jpeg%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3D98a8d0c5054 44dff8b12e6b5c310cfe41ceb4482)

[Bill Gates]

I think most Americans understand that tariffs are a tax that will end up being paid for by them. And that is the most important detail.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

The CEO of Apple

[RRR3]

China upped the ante matching Trump's 125% tariffs on US goods...they don't GAF.

Of course 19-87 IQ Lakers gonna post Fox News and some goofball MAGA cultist as his sources :roll: Meanwhile everyone else sees that China is the real winner in this idiotic trade war vs the world Trump started. Dude is talking about bombing Yemen, Mexico, Iran and taking Gaza, Canada, Greenland and Panama. The US still thinking the world looks at China as a threat though :lol
He’s not talking about bombing Yemen he IS bombing Yemen. It’s ok though 19-87 IQ says if they don’t fight back it doesn’t count as war!

[1987_Lakers]

China’s economy going down to 2008 levels. They will fold. Make America Great Again.

[1987_Lakers]

China upped the ante matching Trump's 125% tariffs on US goods...they don't GAF.

Of course they care, only a low IQ individual like yourself would believe otherwise. Their economy is going to shit right now because they profit more than any country in the world in trade and the rest of the world is running to the USA for a deal. Trump backed them into a corner and now they will have no choice but to make a deal.

Even this morning when China announced more tariffs they stated they will not rise anymore. They are shook.

We stay winning!

[TheMan]

Of course they care, only a low IQ individual like yourself would believe otherwise. Their economy is going to shit right now because they profit more than any country in the world in trade and the rest of the world is running to the USA for a deal. Trump backed them into a corner and now they will have no choice but to make a deal.

Even this morning when China announced more tariffs they stated they will not rise anymore. They are shook.

We stay winning!

Meanwhile the EU is looking away from the US and trying to make more trade deals with China and MercoSur :lol You get your sources from Fox News, you have no idea what really is going on. BTW, the Chinese are so spooked that they said they would go toe to toe with the US in any type of war they want, oooh they're spooked :lol

The US buys much much more from China than China buys from the US, many of which are only produced in China and not easily replaceable. China has the upper hand, if this drags on, Chinese leadership won't change no matter what, Trump can be a lame duck as early as in 2026. Our economy is consumer based, US consumer sentiment is now second lowest since 1952. That means people don't buy shit, the economy slows down to a crawl, companies start laying off workers, home owners default and cars don't sell...

Simple equation, if this goes on, both countries will get hit hard but the Chinese people can't do shit about it...Americans can and will. The US is handicapped from the get go. You are so very stupid if you can't see the obvious. On top of that, Trump has alienated long time allies that he should have tried to win over for a trade war vs China but Canada hates the US now :roll:

There is a way to combat China in a trade war but hooo boy, this is the most retarded way to go about it and doomed to fail.

[RRR3]

Meanwhile the EU is looking away from the US and trying to make more trade deals with China and MercoSur :lol You get your sources from Fox News, you have no idea what really is going on. BTW, the Chinese are so spooked that they said they would go toe to toe with the US in any type of war they want, oooh they're spooked :lol

The US buys much much more from China than China buys from the US, many of which are only produced in China and not easily replaceable. China has the upper hand, if this drags on, Chinese leadership won't change no matter what, Trump can be a lame duck as early as in 2026. Our economy is consumer based, US consumer sentiment is now second lowest since 1952. That means people don't buy shit, the economy slows down to a crawl, companies start laying off workers, home owners default and cars don't sell...

Simple equation, if this goes on, both countries will get hit hard but the Chinese people can't do shit about it...Americans can and will. The US is handicapped from the get go. You are so very stupid if you can't see the obvious. On top of that, Trump has alienated long time allies that he should have tried to win over for a trade war vs China but Canada hates the US now :roll:

There is a way to combat China in a trade war but hooo boy, this is the most retarded way to go about it and doomed to fail.
He can't admit he was wrong despite probably realizing it at some level deep down because in his simple mind that's "losing" rather than a sign of maturity. Sad.

[TheMan]

He can't admit he was wrong despite probably realizing it at some level deep down because in his simple mind that's "losing" rather than a sign of maturity. Sad.

That or he really is this stupid.

[warriorfan]

Meanwhile the EU is looking away from the US and trying to make more trade deals with China and MercoSur :lol You get your sources from Fox News, you have no idea what really is going on. BTW, the Chinese are so spooked that they said they would go toe to toe with the US in any type of war they want, oooh they're spooked :lol

The US buys much much more from China than China buys from the US, many of which are only produced in China and not easily replaceable. China has the upper hand, if this drags on, Chinese leadership won't change no matter what, Trump can be a lame duck as early as in 2026. Our economy is consumer based, US consumer sentiment is now second lowest since 1952. That means people don't buy shit, the economy slows down to a crawl, companies start laying off workers, home owners default and cars don't sell...

Simple equation, if this goes on, both countries will get hit hard but the Chinese people can't do shit about it...Americans can and will. The US is handicapped from the get go. You are so very stupid if you can't see the obvious. On top of that, Trump has alienated long time allies that he should have tried to win over for a trade war vs China but Canada hates the US now :roll:

There is a way to combat China in a trade war but hooo boy, this is the most retarded way to go about it and doomed to fail.

I didn’t read any of this but imagine spending your friday typing this amount of shit out about donald trump.

Lmao, couldn’t be me.

[1987_Lakers]

That or he really is this stupid.

I have a better track record than you, you also thought Harris would win and that Trump wouldn't win Michigan, you were wrong on both counts.

All these tariffs are hurting both USA and China, but China is getting the worst of it, which will force them to fold first.

We win again fam!

[TheMan]

I have a better track record than you, you also thought Harris would win and that Trump wouldn't win Michigan, you were wrong on both counts.

All these tariffs are hurting both USA and China, but China is getting the worst of it, which will force them to fold first.

We win again fam!

Nah, you're a dumbass.

Trump is getting killed by economists outside of MAGA cultists. I watch international news channels and they all but call Trump an idiot.

[RRR3]

Nah, you're a dumbass.

Trump is getting killed by economists outside of MAGA cultists. I watch international news channels and they all but call Trump an idiot.
Libbyrul propagandy! My pookie bear Trump neva wrong!

[1987_Lakers]

Nah, you're a dumbass.

Trump is getting killed by economists outside of MAGA cultists. I watch international news channels and they all but call Trump an idiot.

Same people who you watch are the same people who told you Harris was going to win.


He's not flipping Michigan, if he flips a Blue Wall state, it's more likely gonna be Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. If he flips Michigan, that means his odds of winning all 3 BWSs are huge and that's just not happening with how close this election is, it would be the equivalent of the Democrats taking all the Sun Belt states, Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia, and that ain't happening.

Polls only tell you so much and it's a snapshot of the race at that particular moment, not what will happen on election day. The most accurate polls are the ones days ahead of the election...and as I've said many times, it's a close race and it's gonna come down to who turns out their base along with whom the independents break towards to...in short, Trump's ace is that hidden Trump vote, Harris is higher turnout means that people who don't usually vote are voting and that favors the Democrats.


In the end, betting markets and polls tell you so much, the betting sites 1987_Lakers loves to quote were way off in 2016 and two years ago.

Posting paragraphs about shit that you ended up being wrong about. All that posting for nothing. :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKPcEj_OLrQ

https://media.tenor.com/jzyxbbQnrRsAAAAM/michael-jordan-chicago-bulls-versus-portland-trail-blazers.gif

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-j5XWo1fPI

[86Celtics]

Here's how much Trump and the "fam" are winning:

https://x.com/XH_Lee23/status/1910553595805909455

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjew7y4j724o


Also: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/11/climate/trump-noaa-budget-cuts/index.html?Date=20250411&Profile=CNN&utm_content=1744390356&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

How is it possible to be so godamn stupid?

[Axe]

He was responsible for stirring up the trade war against them during his first term. Ofc he's going to be more persistent about it this time.

[n00bie]

China’s economy going down to 2008 levels. They will fold. Make America Great Again.

Why do you think Trump folded with the tariffs? The bond market will bring America down. When the bond market was failing, it wasn't even China that iniated it. It was Japan. Japan alone dropping U.S. treasuries was enough to raise yields over night.

China, Japan and Korean own about 2 Trillion U.S. Debt alone. China has about 900 million of that.

What happened last week was just a warning to Trump, and Trump got scared.

[1987_Lakers]

Why do you think Trump folded with the tariffs? The bond market will bring America down. When the bond market was failing, it wasn't even China that iniated it. It was Japan. Japan alone dropping U.S. treasuries was enough to raise yields over night.

China, Japan and Korean own about 2 Trillion U.S. Debt alone. China has about 900 million of that.

What happened last week was just a warning to Trump, and Trump got scared.

He didn't fold, it was Trump's plan all along.

[Hey Yo]

NachoMan slayed

[tpols]

NachoMan slayed

:roll:

He's been talking real slick from across that Rio grande. Primo don't want smoke with us hillbillies though... we bigger than him by twice size. Yeehaw!

[TheMan]

:roll:

He's been talking real slick from across that Rio grande. Primo don't want smoke with us hillbillies though... we bigger than him by twice size. Yeehaw!

I'm in your homeland rn, hillbilly. In San Antone as I write this...

You don't want any part of these hands. The bigger they are, the harder they fall :pimp:

[TheMan]

NachoMan slayed


https://youtu.be/u9k7132Iyeo?si=BnWcrB2EREYDd-Ci
Long but in depth video, I don't expect a dummy like you to understand it, much less have the attention span for it but anyone with any curiosity at all, give it a watch, it shows all the cards both countries have and it doesn't bode well for us...

[eliteballer]

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/markets/bond-market-moves-raise-fears-growing-bets-america-rcna200936

[tpols]

I'm in your homeland rn, hillbilly. In San Antone as I write this...

You don't want any part of these hands. The bigger they are, the harder they fall :pimp:

You would likely need a foot stool to reach my chin. Or jump and have a really good vertical. Either way with my hillbilly reflexes I would quickly thwart your attack and counter appropriately. Slap the beans out you primo for disrepecting the Don.

[TheMan]

You would likely need a foot stool to reach my chin. Or jump and have a really good vertical. Either way with my hillbilly reflexes I would quickly thwart your attack and counter appropriately. Slap the beans out you primo for disrepecting the Don.

A Mexican vs a redneck trading hands, we're like undefeated, don't matter height, weight or whatever. I'm finna beat the Walmart fat ass outta ya, hick. BTW I'm not short, 5"11 and a half, you're not up against a 5"5 indio, my boy.

[RRR3]

I wouldn't talk about getting in fights with Trumpers like this, TheMan. Sure tpols is harmless but some of these guys might legit track you down and murder you. Remeber January 6 and Charlottesville?

[tpols]

A Mexican vs a redneck trading hands, we're like undefeated, don't matter height, weight or whatever. I'm finna beat the Walmart fat ass outta ya, hick. BTW I'm not short, 5"11 and a half, you're not up against a 5"5 indio, my boy.

That means youre part gringo yourself then. :roll:

Your welcome.

[tpols]

I wouldn't talk about getting in fights with Trumpers like this, TheMan. Sure tpols is harmless but some of these guys might legit track you down and murder you. Remeber January 6 and Charlottesville?

Its... not quite that serious. I'm a peaceful fella.

[TheMan]

Its... not quite that serious. I'm a peaceful fella.

I know we're just talking shit :cheers:

You're not unhinged like that weirdo BigKobeFan who really wanted to fight me IRL out in Cali :roll:

Imagine being so triggered by someone on the internet that you really want to fight...strange little fella. If I was as unhinged as him, I would have met him and curbstomped the little yellow dude haha

[TheMan]

I wouldn't talk about getting in fights with Trumpers like this, TheMan. Sure tpols is harmless but some of these guys might legit track you down and murder you. Remeber January 6 and Charlottesville?
They can't track me down, first, all of them are as smart as a pile of rocks, secondly, I snuck in with my fake US birth certificate and state IDs, ICE can't touch me, even less so these fools here...

tpols is alright, bro. Never came off as unhinged as other MAGATs

[Hey Yo]

https://youtu.be/u9k7132Iyeo?si=BnWcrB2EREYDd-Ci
Long but in depth video, I don't expect a dummy like you to understand it, much less have the attention span for it but anyone with any curiosity at all, give it a watch, it shows all the cards both countries have and it doesn't bode well for us...

He's not flipping Michigan!

The race is really close

And I'm the dummy?? :roll:

[Hey Yo]

Its... not quite that serious. I'm a peaceful fella.

RRR3 warning others that you might track someone down... when he's the one spending days looking up 3ball's information and almost showed up at his front door cause he was so ruined by him.

[1987_Lakers]

He's not flipping Michigan!

The race is really close

And I'm the dummy?? :roll:
:oldlol:

[TheMan]

He's not flipping Michigan!

The race is really close

And I'm the dummy?? :roll:

I ate crow on that one, I didn't run away but presidential predictions and being able to discern which country has the upper hand in an economic trade war with all the data out there are two very different things. China is not gonna fold and they already have a bigger share of manufacturing trade deals than the US with other countries.

China shows zero signs of backing down, Trump already backed down due to the bonds market. If China decides to go nuclear and sell all their US bonds, it's game over, do you dimwits understand that?

[warriorfan]

I ate crow on that one, I didn't run away but presidential predictions and being able to discern which country has the upper hand in an economic trade war with all the data out there are two very different things. China is not gonna fold and they already have a bigger share of manufacturing trade deals than the US with other countries.

China shows zero signs of backing down, Trump already backed down due to the bonds market. If China decides to go nuclear and sell all their US bonds, it's game over, do you dimwits understand that?

Stop being a mad little beaner and go outside and push around your elote cart. Jesus. :lol

[Jasper]

op does not realize china owns USA

let op pay off loan than we can say you own usa... dumb fvck

[n00bie]

He didn't fold, it was Trump's plan all along.

Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?

[Axe]

Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?
Scary times.

[RRR3]

Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?
:roll:

[TheMan]

Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?

:lol

[RRR3]

19-87 IQ not coming back until Fox News and Ben Shapiro give him the proper talking points.

[1987_Lakers]

Trumps plan was to turn the whole world against the U.S.?

Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?

[TheMan]

Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?

This idiot believes EVERYTHING Trump says :lol

Funny he hasn't specifically named any though, huh?

Meanwhile Trump is backing down, just hours ago making exemptions for more Chinese goods after declaring a couple of days ago there would be no exemptions, like 30% of all goods coming from China don't have that goofy 145% tariff while China hasn't made any exceptions and have stopped crucial rare earth minerals exports to the US :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/12/trump-tariff-exemptions-smartphones-computers/

[ZenMaster]

This idiot believes EVERYTHING Trump says :lol

Funny he hasn't specifically named any though, huh?

Meanwhile Trump is backing down, just hours ago making exemptions for more Chinese goods after declaring a couple of days ago there would be no exemptions, like 30% of all goods coming from China don't have that goofy 145% tariff while China hasn't made any exceptions and have stopped crucial rare earth minerals exports to the US :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/12/trump-tariff-exemptions-smartphones-computers/

lol


Just had a very productive call with To Lam, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, who told me that Vietnam wants to cut their Tariffs down to ZERO if they are able to make an agreement with the U.S. I thanked him on behalf of our Country, and said I look forward to a meeting in the near future.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684


Their top TEAM is on a plane heading to the U.S., and things are looking good. We are likewise dealing with many other countries, all of whom want to make a deal with the United States. Like with South Korea, we are bringing up other subjects that are not covered by Trade and Tariffs, and getting them negotiated also.

https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378


Cambodia, Home to Many U.S. Shoe Makers, Pledges Tariff Cuts in Exchange for Talks

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL


“As for when I will fly to the US for negotiations, it has to be as soon as possible. I confirm that the USTR has responded, but the date has not been set. I am ready to fly with the Commerce Minister because we are on the same team. Call me ‘Pichai’ so that both of us can turn to each other at the same time, and the private sector will join in for strength,” said Mr. Pichai.

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/

[1987_Lakers]

lol



https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684



https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378



https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL



https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/

:oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

Once again, NachoMan thinks he's hit the buzzer beater FTW.... only to see he didn't get it off in time FTL.

[1987_Lakers]

Once again, NachoMan thinks he's hit the buzzer beater FTW.... only to see he didn't get it off in time FTL.

Does it every single time, then you have RRR3 cheering him on thinking he is making a great points. Low IQ individuals.

[1987_Lakers]

RRR3 warning others that you might track someone down... when he's the one spending days looking up 3ball's information and almost showed up at his front door cause he was so ruined by him.

:roll:

Once people get to this level, you know they spend way too much time here and need a social life. They are too concerned with posters they have never even met. I've spent this last month going on dates/smashing a beautiful lady I just met and I'm going to LA in 10 days or so for a bachelor party.

:cheers:

[TheMan]

lol



https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114280292618523684



https://x.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1909597349917184378



https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-tariffs-trade-war-markets-04-05-25/card/cambodia-home-to-many-u-s-shoe-makers-pledges-tariff-cuts-in-exchange-for-talks-mSftjdJeJmC1FdQ0hNRL



https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2025/04/12/pichai-holds-us-tariff-talks-with-business-however-thailand-is-unlikely-to-see-10-baseline-retained/

:roll:

As I said, you believe EVERYTHING Trump says.

Trump has begun backing down, he exempted Chinese products last night after he said no more exemptions while China has stood firm. Funny you didn't address that lol

[TheMan]

:roll:

Once people get to this level, you know they spend way too much time here and need a social life. They are too concerned with posters they have never even met. I've spent this last month going on dates/smashing a beautiful lady I just met and I'm going to LA in 10 days or so for a bachelor party.

:cheers:

If this were true, you wouldn't even feel the need to mention this :lol

[1987_Lakers]

If this were true, you wouldn't even feel the need to mention this :lol

It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.

[TheMan]

It is though, and it's something that normal people do in life. The fact that you believe it's some impossibility just shows you need to go out more. Well, on second thought, you don't really seem like a shut in, but there are a handful of posters here who need to go out more and not take this site so seriously.
Well I guess everyone is different, I sometimes go days where I don't check in here and sometimes I post various times during the day. I'm in a different stage of my life, I'm married and have kids, I don't feel the need to let people here know what I do on my free time.

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xz7BGAJYhg

[eliteballer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-oOek2KA5U

[ZenMaster]

:roll:

As I said, you believe EVERYTHING Trump says.

Trump has begun backing down, he exempted Chinese products last night after he said no more exemptions while China has stood firm. Funny you didn't address that lol

The products you say are exempt, like phones and TVs, are still getting the 20% tariff that was first put up, so not exempt.

China has publicly said that they won't go higher than 125%, because it doesn't matter if you go higher as products are already too costly at that rate.

I think we can all agree that great that 70 countries have already reached out expressing interest in making a new deal, it shows that there's room for improvement from the old ones.

[n00bie]

Is that why countless countries are currently running to Trump for a deal?
I cant say for certain if thats true. What I DO know is that countries are running to eachother to make deals to bypass Trump. Nobody knows what Trump is thinking, so it's risky for any country to deal with just the U.S. at this point.

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL

[BurningHammer]

https://youtu.be/R2-GsYRDNz0?si=apEGM3_qCVo9BnSL

USA might invade Greenland tomorrow out of the corporate "necessity".

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGDdpBGlmxQ

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.

[Gudo]

https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.

Damn. Those are hard truths Americans choose to keep a blind eye on.

[ZenMaster]

https://youtu.be/m1IMdY0r4xY?si=EyRCPamF1LHrS-wb
Informative video but to get the gist of this trade war, go to 12:20 mark, that's the unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize.

This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.

The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:

Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.

And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:


Last night, President Donald J. Trump made clear whose side he is on — everyday Americans, not the globalist politicians who have spent decades selling out American workers to foreign countries.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/

[1987_Lakers]

This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.

The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:

Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.

And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:


https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/

Not to mention the vid TheMan posted at the 12:20 mark where he specifically highlighted, is a hired Chinese government operative who is trying to spread Chinese propaganda onto Americans. This was exposed in the vid I posted at the 8:17 mark. If he had the patience to watch my vid, he would have seen it. 5:15 mark in my vid is also eye opening.

Dude fell for Chinese propaganda. :lol

[Overdrive]

Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.


The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.

[ZenMaster]

The reality:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $160, make $110.

Solution:

Because of social media, the company is quickly outed for not wanting to produce in the US and instead hiking their prices. People start boycotting the company + the natural lower number of sales on a more expensive product, causing a 10% drop in sales and less profit for the company than just paying the tariff.

I bet you'd argue for higher corporate taxes overall, but the exact same argument of reality being price hikes for the end buyer can be made going that route.

[TheMan]

Not to mention the vid TheMan posted at the 12:20 mark where he specifically highlighted, is a hired Chinese government operative who is trying to spread Chinese propaganda onto Americans. This was exposed in the vid I posted at the 8:17 mark. If he had the patience to watch my vid, he would have seen it. 5:15 mark in my vid is also eye opening.

Dude fell for Chinese propaganda. :lol

I know it's Chinese propaganda but what part of what he said isn't true?

If an American paid propagandist told the Chinese people that their government is anti democratic, is that a lie or not? :confusedshrug:

[TheMan]

This probably takes the cake as the weirdest statement you've ever made trying to get a "win" on MAGA, like what in the actual **** lol.

The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:

Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?
Example:
Without tariff: Produce in China for $40, sell in the US for $150, make $110.
With 25% tariff: Produce in China for $40, pay $10 in US tariff, sell in US for $150, make $100.

And in case your next trick is to say something like "oh but Trump doesn't highlight how it was our own politicians who helped create this mess and is instead just blaming China", let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:


https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/04/icymi-president-trump-is-president-for-main-street-not-wall-street/

Tariffs, the way Trump is implementing them, is not gonna bring back manufacturing jobs.

[n00bie]

Looks like Trump is folding on his tariffs lol.

[1987_Lakers]

https://youtu.be/5J3N60QXU6Q

We win again fam!

[ZenMaster]

Tariffs, the way Trump is implementing them, is not gonna bring back manufacturing jobs.

Is that why you went full retard, took the #1 Trump talking point of the last 10 years and laid it out as an "unpleasant truth for MAGAs"?

I'm sure if a life long politician was in charge, he or she would've worked with all those economists who are on TV these days to get those darn tariffs just right and brough the manufacturing jobs back :oldlol

[Gudo]

https://youtu.be/5J3N60QXU6Q

We win again fam!

What an unbiased and reliable source :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Is that why you went full retard, took the #1 Trump talking point of the last 10 years and laid it out as an "unpleasant truth for MAGAs"?

I'm sure if a life long politician was in charge, he or she would've worked with all those economists who are on TV these days to get those darn tariffs just right and brough the manufacturing jobs back :oldlol

The Man is a legit beaner who actively roots for USA to lose because of weird racial self loathing.

[TheMan]

The Man is a legit beaner who actively roots for USA to lose because of weird racial self loathing.

You are weirdly obsessed with race, bro.

[diamenz]

The fact that past politicians sold out America for the benefit of corporations and Trump pointing out this over and over and over again, is why he was elected President. And you come here presenting it as an "unpleasant truth about America that MAGA don't want to recognize" :oldlol:

[/URL]

it's true that trump ran on a populist platform in 2016 but this was not included or at least not at all prioritized in the recent campaign cycle. if it was, it was only messaged in passing or in a vague manner and in no way conveyed the extreme, broad-based route that he's taken.

trump may also have a genuine belief in his vision for america-first in regard to trade but his implementation is sloppy - large scale blanket tariffs aren't going to be sustainable in the long term nor will it work in any significant way against an economic machine such as china. they'll turn elsewhere in the same way that Russia did when we sanctioned them to the bone. there's no way China will allow themselves to be embrassed again on the world stage after their hundred years if shame.

what you'd like for these tariffs to be so far haven't demonstrated to be so. they've only been used as a leveraging or bullying tool against weaker, more fragile economies in an attempt to get some 'deals' or optic wins that are most likely in effect mediocre at best. targeted tariffs would make much more sense if trump wanted to implement them in a way that adheres to his long term vision but these as they're set up now sure ain't it.


Do you understand that tariffs are a fee for companies to pay on the initial value of their imported product and not a fee for the Chinese govt?

they're also a massive tax on americans. a tax that Americans aren't eager to pay as we're recovering from the disaster of bidenomics.


let's have a look at a recent press release from the Trump Whitehouse:


wat. im surprised someone like you is quick to cite something without question coming straight out of the white house. you don't look at all of this with any skepticism or doubt whatsoever? don't tell me you nod your head along with whatever that caroline leavitt spews from her podium, do you? come on man. snap out of it.

[BurningHammer]

You are weirdly obsessed with race, bro.

So obsessed he has to have a racial gimmick account :oldlol:

[Axe]

Is that why you went full retard
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS0ln07F80kpy935JMRZFCLf3Ihhv4a0 UuILPBKdg0ylSHXkCwS_0l9l8c&s=10

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZeX5q5dwO0

[n00bie]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/16/chinese-state-media-tells-trump-to-stop-whining-as-trade-war-spirals

"The US is not getting ripped off by anybody,” it said. “The problem is the US has been living beyond its means for decades. It consumes more than it produces. It has outsourced its manufacturing and borrowed money in order to have a higher standard of living than it’s entitled to based on its productivity. Rather than being ‘cheated’, the US has been taking a free ride on the globalisation train."

Why is this statement so accurate when describing the average American LOL.

[warriorfan]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/16/chinese-state-media-tells-trump-to-stop-whining-as-trade-war-spirals

"The US is not getting ripped off by anybody,” it said. “The problem is the US has been living beyond its means for decades. It consumes more than it produces. It has outsourced its manufacturing and borrowed money in order to have a higher standard of living than it’s entitled to based on its productivity. Rather than being ‘cheated’, the US has been taking a free ride on the globalisation train."

Why is this statement so accurate when describing the average American LOL.

Because you are a petty ch1nk.

[ZenMaster]

it's true that trump ran on a populist platform in 2016 but this was not included or at least not at all prioritized in the recent campaign cycle. if it was, it was only messaged in passing or in a vague manner and in no way conveyed the extreme, broad-based route that he's taken.


Do you believe then that people voted for Trump due to a whole new set of reasons than in 2016? The main focus of the 2024 campaign was to point out how big of a disaster dems were, because they sold out the country, doesn't really care about the people and were instead trying to import new voters.


trump may also have a genuine belief in his vision for america-first in regard to trade but his implementation is sloppy - large scale blanket tariffs aren't going to be sustainable in the long term nor will it work in any significant way against an economic machine such as china. they'll turn elsewhere in the same way that Russia did when we sanctioned them to the bone. there's no way China will allow themselves to be embrassed again on the world stage after their hundred years if shame.

what you'd like for these tariffs to be so far haven't demonstrated to be so. they've only been used as a leveraging or bullying tool against weaker, more fragile economies in an attempt to get some 'deals' or optic wins that are most likely in effect mediocre at best. targeted tariffs would make much more sense if trump wanted to implement them in a way that adheres to his long term vision but these as they're set up now sure ain't it.


It's been like two weeks right? If you think the coming deals with the EU and China are just for optics then there isn't much point in discussing it, as the only thing that could prove you wrong will happen over time.
In Europe they have both blanket and targeted tariffs set in specific deals, why can't the same thing work for the US? You literally can't export anything to the EU without paying a tariff, what's the technical reason this wouldn't work for the US? They'll even tell you directly on official EU sites why they do this:


Through the tariff, the Community applies the principle that domestic producers should be able to compete fairly and equally on the internal market with manufacturers exporting from other countries / territories.
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/calculation-customs-duties/customs-tariff_en



wat. im surprised someone like you is quick to cite something without question coming straight out of the white house. you don't look at all of this with any skepticism or doubt whatsoever? don't tell me you nod your head along with whatever that caroline leavitt spews from her podium, do you? come on man. snap out of it.

So the thing cited from the White house was to show that it's very much still a talking point that previous politicians sold out the US, it was literally mentioned in the sub header of the recent press release on tariffs while TheMan was presenting it as "an unpleasant truth for MAGAs", which is of course completely ridiculous. I wasn't proving conspiracies or anything like that through a White house press release, so just calm the **** down and get off your high horse.

If there's one thing MAGAs love to talk about it's how shitty previous politicians have been. Someone like TheMan will ridicule repubs for not wanting to talk about how they voted for Bush or whatever, but it's actually a good thing because he was a terrible president. The disconnect is that people on the right in large parts have accepted that previous politicians were shit, but on dems side they're still very much hanging on to Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Biden being good politicians who did well for the country, just pretending that Bernie doesn't exist and didn't get screwed out of a candidacy by that very same group.

[RRR3]

Do you believe then that people voted for Trump due to a whole new set of reasons than in 2016? The main focus of the 2024 campaign was to point out how big of a disaster dems were, because they sold out the country, doesn't really care about the people and were instead trying to import new voters.



It's been like two weeks right? If you think the coming deals with the EU and China are just for optics then there isn't much point in discussing it, as the only thing that could prove you wrong will happen over time.
In Europe they have both blanket and targeted tariffs set in specific deals, why can't the same thing work for the US? You literally can't export anything to the EU without paying a tariff, what's the technical reason this wouldn't work for the US? They'll even tell you directly on official EU sites why they do this:


https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/calculation-customs-duties/customs-tariff_en



So the thing cited from the White house was to show that it's very much still a talking point that previous politicians sold out the US, it was literally mentioned in the sub header of the recent press release on tariffs while TheMan was presenting it as "an unpleasant truth for MAGAs", which is of course completely ridiculous. I wasn't proving conspiracies or anything like that through a White house press release, so just calm the **** down and get off your high horse.

If there's one thing MAGAs love to talk about it's how shitty previous politicians have been. Someone like TheMan will ridicule repubs for not wanting to talk about how they voted for Bush or whatever, but it's actually a good thing because he was a terrible president. The disconnect is that people on the right in large parts have accepted that previous politicians were shit, but on dems side they're still very much hanging on to Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Biden being good politicians who did well for the country, just pretending that Bernie doesn't exist and didn't get screwed out of a candidacy by that very same group.
Yeah and then you think your beloved Trump is any different, hence why people are laughing at you

[Hey Yo]

Yeah and then you think your beloved Trump is any different, hence why people are laughing at you

Says the kid who thinks he's cool voting for a rapper for President. I can only imagine a girls reaction when try to wow them with your alleged love for anarchy too.

[diamenz]

Do you believe then that people voted for Trump due to a whole new set of reasons than in 2016? The main focus of the 2024 campaign was to point out how big of a disaster dems were, because they sold out the country, doesn't really care about the people and were instead trying to import new voters.



It's been like two weeks right? If you think the coming deals with the EU and China are just for optics then there isn't much point in discussing it, as the only thing that could prove you wrong will happen over time.
In Europe they have both blanket and targeted tariffs set in specific deals, why can't the same thing work for the US? You literally can't export anything to the EU without paying a tariff, what's the technical reason this wouldn't work for the US? They'll even tell you directly on official EU sites why they do this:


https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs-4/calculation-customs-duties/customs-tariff_en



So the thing cited from the White house was to show that it's very much still a talking point that previous politicians sold out the US, it was literally mentioned in the sub header of the recent press release on tariffs while TheMan was presenting it as "an unpleasant truth for MAGAs", which is of course completely ridiculous. I wasn't proving conspiracies or anything like that through a White house press release, so just calm the **** down and get off your high horse.

If there's one thing MAGAs love to talk about it's how shitty previous politicians have been. Someone like TheMan will ridicule repubs for not wanting to talk about how they voted for Bush or whatever, but it's actually a good thing because he was a terrible president. The disconnect is that people on the right in large parts have accepted that previous politicians were shit, but on dems side they're still very much hanging on to Obama, Hillary, Pelosi and Biden being good politicians who did well for the country, just pretending that Bernie doesn't exist and didn't get screwed out of a candidacy by that very same group.

dude you just seem to be very overly optimistic about all of this while the reality is this tariff implementation is sloppy, uncalculated and unpredictable. one minute they're on then they're off, they're at a set percentage and then they're not, no exemptions oh no but wait these exemptions. there's zero stability. trump's basically just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. what are we trying to accomplish here? if the trump administration would take a breath and put together a targeted and intelligent plan to bring back specific manufacturing industries then i'd be all for it because there's no doubt and I fully acknowledge that trade agreements, nafta in particular have been hurting us for a long time (still to this day) and that we have a broken trade system but like I said - this ain't it jack. i give trump credit for bringing this issue to the forefront but it ends there.

i guess we'll see though, won't we? maybe trump will change tariff policy bigly tomorrow or the next day only to switch it up again the following week. :rolleyes: no one here can plan around this chaos. meanwhile china is making moves mobilizing their industry in full force in order to weather this storm. (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-11-25/card/jd-com-pledges-27-billion-to-help-chinese-exporters-7mrc8ASFaJXeuk3PFn0O)

nonetheless, just wait until the price increases hit and trump's poll numbers plummet. it'll be interesting to see what route gets taken then.

like i said - this so called policy isn't what you're wishing it were. either that or you're confused or in denial about it. frankly it sounds to me like you're suffering from a mild case of trump enslavement syndrome here, with all due respect brother.

[Baller234]

dude you just seem to be very overly optimistic about all of this while the reality is this tariff implementation is sloppy, uncalculated and unpredictable. one minute they're on then they're off, they're at a set percentage and then they're not, no exemptions oh no but wait these exemptions. there's zero stability. trump's basically just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. what are we trying to accomplish here? if the trump administration would take a breath and put together a targeted and intelligent plan to bring back specific manufacturing industries then i'd be all for it because there's no doubt and I fully acknowledge that trade agreements, nafta in particular have been hurting us for a long time (still to this day) and that we have a broken trade system but like I said - this ain't it jack. i give trump credit for bringing this issue to the forefront but it ends there.

i guess we'll see though, won't we? maybe trump will change tariff policy bigly tomorrow or the next day only to switch it up again the following week. :rolleyes: no one here can plan around this chaos. meanwhile china is making moves mobilizing their industry in full force in order to weather this storm. (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-11-25/card/jd-com-pledges-27-billion-to-help-chinese-exporters-7mrc8ASFaJXeuk3PFn0O)

nonetheless, just wait until the price increases hit and trump's poll numbers plummet. it'll be interesting to see what route gets taken then.

like i said - this so called policy isn't what you're wishing it were. either that or you're confused or in denial about it. frankly it sounds to me like you're suffering from a mild case of trump enslavement syndrome here, with all due respect brother.

"Trump needs a well thought out plan..."

"There's too must instability, he's too unpredictable..."

When you sit down at the poker table, things don't always go according to strategy. It's not like he's teaching 1st grade math here, he's going toe to toe with world leaders and trying to bring them to heel. He's throwing punches and he's taking punches.

If he blows our entire chip stack and bankrupts the country, then fine you have my permission to point the finger. In reality though the poker game is still being played and we still have plenty of leverage. The stock market is not the be all and end all when it comes to the economy, and like always that too will come back.

The "strategy" is short term pain for long term gain. I don't expect everything to go 100% smoothly.

[diamenz]

"Trump needs a well thought out plan..."

"There's too must instability, he's too unpredictable..."

When you sit down at the poker table, things don't always go according to strategy. It's not like he's teaching 1st grade math here, he's going toe to toe with world leaders and trying to bring them to heel. He's throwing punches and he's taking punches.

If he blows our entire chip stack and bankrupts the country, then fine you have my permission to point the finger. In reality though the poker game is still being played and we still have plenty of leverage. The stock market is not the be all and end all when it comes to the economy, and like always that too will come back.

The "strategy" is short term pain for long term gain. I don't expect everything to go 100% smoothly.

i'm not so easily convinced. i don't know who you are and i ain't preaching but don't be so quick to give a president the benefit of the doubt because it almost always ends in disappointment. i stay skeptical until i see results - not results pushed by the administration and it's cohorts in the media but results that i can see with my own two eyes. but we'll see though, and ill be glad to have that conversation in due time whichever way the pendulum ends up swinging.

i hope for the sake of folks that voted trump into office to get away from taxes and inflation and especially for small businesses that are gonna be feeling that short term pain you speak of that you're right. like i said, that pain will show in trump's poll numbers and you'd better believe he takes that shit as serious as a heart attack.

[Baller234]

i'm not so easily convinced. i don't know who you are and i ain't preaching but don't be so quick to give a president the benefit of the doubt because it almost always ends in disappointment. i stay skeptical until i see results - not results pushed by the administration and it's cohorts in the media but results that i can see with my own two eyes. but we'll see though, and ill be glad to have that conversation in due time whichever way the pendulum ends up swinging.

i hope for the sake of folks that voted trump into office to get away from taxes and inflation and especially for small businesses that are gonna be feeling that short term pain you speak of that you're right. like i said, that pain will show in trump's poll numbers and you'd better believe he takes that shit as serious as a heart attack.

Why shouldn't his voters give him the benefit of the doubt? It's why they voted for him. They wanted him to be a tough negotiator.

I don't really think Trump has to worry about poll numbers. He's been defying the odds and proving polls wrong his entire career. He also knows the democrats are insanely weak right now too so he has way more room to move and fukk up.

In short, the sky would have to be falling in order for the people to abandon Trump. When the average person is really feeling it. The detractors smell blood so they are going to try and craft this narrative that the sky IS falling, but in reality we're in the same boat we've been in.

[bladefd]

dude you just seem to be very overly optimistic about all of this while the reality is this tariff implementation is sloppy, uncalculated and unpredictable. one minute they're on then they're off, they're at a set percentage and then they're not, no exemptions oh no but wait these exemptions. there's zero stability. trump's basically just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. what are we trying to accomplish here? if the trump administration would take a breath and put together a targeted and intelligent plan to bring back specific manufacturing industries then i'd be all for it because there's no doubt and I fully acknowledge that trade agreements, nafta in particular have been hurting us for a long time (still to this day) and that we have a broken trade system but like I said - this ain't it jack. i give trump credit for bringing this issue to the forefront but it ends there.

i guess we'll see though, won't we? maybe trump will change tariff policy bigly tomorrow or the next day only to switch it up again the following week. :rolleyes: no one here can plan around this chaos. meanwhile china is making moves mobilizing their industry in full force in order to weather this storm. (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-11-25/card/jd-com-pledges-27-billion-to-help-chinese-exporters-7mrc8ASFaJXeuk3PFn0O)

nonetheless, just wait until the price increases hit and trump's poll numbers plummet. it'll be interesting to see what route gets taken then.

like i said - this so called policy isn't what you're wishing it were. either that or you're confused or in denial about it. frankly it sounds to me like you're suffering from a mild case of trump enslavement syndrome here, with all due respect brother.

Trump is just a clueless ping-pong ball between his dumbass advisers.. "Art of the deal" :facepalm

https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1k2k0vt/wsj_exclusive_trump_advisers_took_advantage_of/

Dementia Donny does what his handlers tell him. Is anyone tired of the :winning" so far? It just begun...

[Axe]

Why shouldn't his voters give him the benefit of the doubt? It's why they voted for him. They wanted him to be a tough negotiator.

I don't really think Trump has to worry about poll numbers. He's been defying the odds and proving polls wrong his entire career. He also knows the democrats are insanely weak right now too so he has way more room to move and fukk up.

In short, the sky would have to be falling in order for the people to abandon Trump. When the average person is really feeling it. The detractors smell blood so they are going to try and craft this narrative that the sky IS falling, but in reality we're in the same boat we've been in.
You should have never come back. :facepalm

[marLeY baLL]

https://youtu.be/XJz1IJ-ONL0?list=RDXJz1IJ-ONL0

[ZenMaster]

dude you just seem to be very overly optimistic about all of this while the reality is this tariff implementation is sloppy, uncalculated and unpredictable. one minute they're on then they're off, they're at a set percentage and then they're not, no exemptions oh no but wait these exemptions. there's zero stability. trump's basically just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. what are we trying to accomplish here? if the trump administration would take a breath and put together a targeted and intelligent plan to bring back specific manufacturing industries then i'd be all for it because there's no doubt and I fully acknowledge that trade agreements, nafta in particular have been hurting us for a long time (still to this day) and that we have a broken trade system but like I said - this ain't it jack. i give trump credit for bringing this issue to the forefront but it ends there.

i guess we'll see though, won't we? maybe trump will change tariff policy bigly tomorrow or the next day only to switch it up again the following week. :rolleyes: no one here can plan around this chaos. meanwhile china is making moves mobilizing their industry in full force in order to weather this storm. (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-11-25/card/jd-com-pledges-27-billion-to-help-chinese-exporters-7mrc8ASFaJXeuk3PFn0O)

nonetheless, just wait until the price increases hit and trump's poll numbers plummet. it'll be interesting to see what route gets taken then.

like i said - this so called policy isn't what you're wishing it were. either that or you're confused or in denial about it. frankly it sounds to me like you're suffering from a mild case of trump enslavement syndrome here, with all due respect brother.

I don't think I've been super positive about anything, my angle into this thread was simply to call out people for doomerism 2 weeks into like a 20 year project. I do see it as a positive that they lowered tariffs to 10% for countries willing to negotiate a new trade deal and if it was reported in the media as a positive gesture instead of them being unpredictable and cHaOs, most people would see it that way too.

It's easy to only focus on the short term negatives as they're mentioned over and over in the media and always short sighted. Getting general inflation down will help make up for any potential price hike caused by tariffs. E.g "oh car prices are about to jump", but if gas prices are 20% lower for the duration you have the car than they otherwise would've been, how much more expensive will your car really be? There's absolutely no mentioned or talk about these kind of positives, only the negatives.

For the rest, I don't think I have much more to say than what Baller already said.

I'll ask again though, what's the reason blanket and specialized tariffs work for a union like the EU, but will cause an economic destruction of the US? Is there any other reason than "I don't trust Trump" to be the one to do it"?

[86Celtics]

I don't think I've been super positive about anything, my angle into this thread was simply to call out people for doomerism 2 weeks into like a 20 year project. I do see it as a positive that they lowered tariffs to 10% for countries willing to negotiate a new trade deal and if it was reported in the media as a positive gesture instead of them being unpredictable and cHaOs, most people would see it that way too.

It's easy to only focus on the short term negatives as they're mentioned over and over in the media and always short sighted. Getting general inflation down will help make up for any potential price hike caused by tariffs. E.g "oh car prices are about to jump", but if gas prices are 20% lower for the duration you have the car than they otherwise would've been, how much more expensive will your car really be? There's absolutely no mentioned or talk about these kind of positives, only the negatives.

For the rest, I don't think I have much more to say than what Baller already said.

I'll ask again though, what's the reason blanket and specialized tariffs work for a union like the EU, but will cause an economic destruction of the US? Is there any other reason than "I don't trust Trump" to be the one to do it"?

Trump and his goofy economic policy team are the reason. EU imposes its own tariffs and has its own trade agreements like most nations have, including the US. What the EU doesn't have is an idiot who rips up agreements overnight and does whatever he feels like. He doesn't even understand how tariffs and the economy work in general, and there is no greater example than him attacking Powell for refusing to cut interest rates. A move that would bring about the exact opposite effect of what you want and increase inflation.

[diamenz]

doomerism 2 weeks into like a 20 year project. I do see it as a positive that they lowered tariffs to 10% for countries willing to negotiate a new trade deal and if it was reported in the media as a positive gesture instead of them being unpredictable and cHaOs, most people would see it that way too.



two weeks into a twenty year project... we'll sure see about that. in addition to the question of it's longevity, we'll see if trump and his advisors can adapt and react the way baller321 claims they can. the way the tariffs are layed out now isn't sustainable in the long run and any "short term" pain is going to be a hell of an understatement for those barely making ends in both their personal and small businesses. prices are going to *ucking skyrocket, particularly out of china. gonna be very interesting to see where all of this goes (no sarcasm).


It's easy to only focus on the short term negatives as they're mentioned over and over in the media and always short sighted. Getting general inflation down will help make up for any potential price hike caused by tariffs. E.g "oh car prices are about to jump", but if gas prices are 20% lower for the duration you have the car than they otherwise would've been, how much more expensive will your car really be? There's absolutely no mentioned or talk about these kind of positives, only the negatives.

there's too many variables at play here to make such a generalized statement. one major turn of events would be trump taking us to war with iran. then those gas prices you speak of will be no *ucking joke. you're gonna see more bikes than cars out there on the streets if that's ends up being the case.


I'll ask again though, what's the reason blanket and specialized tariffs work for a union like the EU, but will cause an economic destruction of the US? Is there any other reason than "I don't trust Trump" to be the one to do it"?

i can't tell you why. you tell me bro (again, no sarcasm or passive aggressiveness here). but it's not only just 'i don't trust trump' - it's that i don't trust any moth3r****er - especially the mf'ers in washington whomever they may be. everybody's either influenced by ideologies and ego or bought off by somebody or something but i hope for everybody's sake you and anyone else putting stock into this endeavor ends up being right.

[highwhey]

I don't think I've been super positive about anything, my angle into this thread was simply to call out people for doomerism 2 weeks into like a 20 year project. I do see it as a positive that they lowered tariffs to 10% for countries willing to negotiate a new trade deal and if it was reported in the media as a positive gesture instead of them being unpredictable and cHaOs, most people would see it that way too.

It's easy to only focus on the short term negatives as they're mentioned over and over in the media and always short sighted. Getting general inflation down will help make up for any potential price hike caused by tariffs. E.g "oh car prices are about to jump", but if gas prices are 20% lower for the duration you have the car than they otherwise would've been, how much more expensive will your car really be? There's absolutely no mentioned or talk about these kind of positives, only the negatives.

For the rest, I don't think I have much more to say than what Baller already said.

I'll ask again though, what's the reason blanket and specialized tariffs work for a union like the EU, but will cause an economic destruction of the US? Is there any other reason than "I don't trust Trump" to be the one to do it"?

you're so fvcking stupid lmao.

[TheMan]

Anyone with half a brain can see that tariffs alone won't bring back manufacturers, that's a half assed solution. On top of that, we have full blown austerity by the federal government when you have to heavily invest in a reindustrialization program to bring back jobs...instead jobs and programs are being slashed so that Trump and his oligarch robber barons can justify yet another tax cut for themselves.

[1987_Lakers]

https://polymarket.com/event/which-countries-will-the-us-agree-to-trade-deals-with-before-july?tid=1745343952564

https://polymarket.com/event/china-eu-trade-deal-before-june?tid=1745344087218

https://polymarket.com/event/china-vietnam-trade-deal-before-june?tid=1745344180528

We win again fam


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EI6227FLgk

[TheMan]

https://polymarket.com/event/which-countries-will-the-us-agree-to-trade-deals-with-before-july?tid=1745343952564

https://polymarket.com/event/china-eu-trade-deal-before-june?tid=1745344087218

https://polymarket.com/event/china-vietnam-trade-deal-before-june?tid=1745344180528

We win again fam


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EI6227FLgk

:roll:

[Baller234]

Anyone with half a brain can see that tariffs alone won't bring back manufacturers, that's a half assed solution. On top of that, we have full blown austerity by the federal government when you have to heavily invest in a reindustrialization program to bring back jobs...instead jobs and programs are being slashed so that Trump and his oligarch robber barons can justify yet another tax cut for themselves.

Okay so enlighten us then since you're the expert. How does America bring back manufacturing?

In your own words.

[TheMan]

Okay so enlighten us then since you're the expert. How does America bring back manufacturing?

In your own words.

That's the problem, bro. There are experts in these fields, I'm not gonna go against what the best economic/financial gurus best advice based on gut instinct, like the Idiot In Chief routinely does...

Anyways back to reality...

https://youtu.be/-6NtyK-MgRY?si=3Gt1vKh7JdrdFg-c

I saw a great video a while back by a top economist, can't recall his name but in a gist, tariffs won't do shit bringing back jobs, the government needs to create programs that target what industries they want back, and this will take time, it's not a matter of weeks or months or even a couple years, this should be seen as generational program...but I digress, nobody in America wants to do textile work, those aren't really worth bringing back but high tech industries, for the security of the US should be in America, plus they would be high paying jobs. Quick rundown and I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, you need to heavily invest in research and development, subsidize industries, offer tax incentives, loan guarantees, educate workers for these high skill positions etc., Trump is offering absolutely none of that, bullying other countries and trying to force US companies back won't be done by only tariffs, that's actually punishing our own population, bro. The fed needs to spend a lot for this to happen but it's worth it, also we're far behind in infrastructure, that needs to change. Tax cuts for the rich is insane and it's doing the complete opposite.

I'll try to find the video, it's long but it's really thorough, using historical and recent examples of countries doing just that. We need to move away from being a consumer based economy, we spend more than what we produce, and it's not even close. That's what frustrating, I don't want us to lose this trade war but we do not hold the stronger cards in this and we're doing jack shit in strategies that actually have been proven to work...what Trump is doing raises the risk of a depression so bad it'll be back to 1930s America all over again...but then again, this is what late stage capitalism looks like.

[Baller234]

That's the problem, bro. There are experts in these fields, I'm not gonna go against what the best economic/financial gurus best advice based on gut instinct, like the Idiot In Chief.

Anyways back to reality...

I specifically asked you to respond in your own words because I didn't want you to just seek some random blog or YT video out of desperation in order to make your point for you. And yet even when tasked with this simple request, you couldn't resist.

So in other words, as expected, your entire argument isn't even your own. You couldn't even parse out the information and explain it in layman terms. It's just someone else telling you what to think.

[Baller234]

I see you edited your post.


I saw a great video a while back by a top economist, can't recall his name but in a gist, tariffs won't do shit bringing back jobs, the government needs to target what industries they want back, nobody in America wants to do textile work, those aren't really worth bring back but high tech industries for the security of the US should be in America, plus they would be high paying jobs. Quick rundown and I'm trying to remember off the top of my head, you need to heavily invest, subsidize, offer tax incentives, loan guarantees, educate workers for these high skill positions etc., Trump is offering absolutely none of that, bullying other countries and trying to force US companies back won't be done by only tariffs, that's actually punishing our own population, bro.

I'll try to find the video, it's long but it's really thorough, using historical and recent examples of countries doing just that. We need to move away from being a consumer based economy, we spend more than what we produce, and it's not even close. That's what frustrating, I don't want us to lose this trade war but we do not hold the stronger cards in this.

Lmao.

First you insist that Trump just wants to cut taxes for his billionaire buddies and it's so terrible, but in the next breath you insist we should give those same billionaires tax incentives and loan guarantees so they keep their production in house. Which is it?

:oldlol:

Newsflash genius, so long as it's cheaper to produce goods out of the country, people are going to take advantage of that. And if you would rather America invest in it's own infrastructure, why wouldn't you want us to use outside money? You're complaining about spending cuts but again in the next breath you want us to just invest all this money. Where is it coming from?

Please, in your own words.

[TheMan]

Dude, the tax incentives I'm talking about aren't tax cuts to the rich like Trump and the GOP want. The tax incentives I'm talking about have a purpose, bringing back jobs and requires employers paying US workers good wages. Tax cuts today don't require any of that, it's supposed to encourage trickle down economics but that neoliberal economic plan has been a complete and utter failure.
And if I'm parroting others words, I'm using reliable sources from economists that have studied countries that effectively grew industries in their countries. Your parroting a doofus who bankrupted casinos :oldlol:

[diamenz]

I specifically asked you to respond in your own words because I didn't want you to just seek some random blog or YT video out of desperation in order to make your point for you. And yet even when tasked with this simple request, you couldn't resist.

So in other words, as expected, your entire argument isn't even your own. You couldn't even parse out the information and explain it in layman terms. It's just someone else telling you what to think.

sounds like lakers_1987 tbh.

[Baller234]

Dude, the tax incentives I'm talking about aren't tax cuts to the rich like Trump and the GOP want. The tax incentives I'm talking about have a purpose, bringing back jobs and requires employers paying US workers good wages. Tax cuts today don't require any of that, it's supposed to encourage trickle down economics but that neoliberal economic plan has been a complete and utter failure.
And if I'm parroting others words, I'm using reliable sources from economists that have studied countries that effectively grew industries in their countries. Your parroting a doofus who bankrupted casinos :oldlol:

Yea sorry, you're not making any sense whatsoever. You can talk in circles all you want, it's not gonna work.

Large corporations already receive significant tax incentives from federal, state and local governments. Just look at Amazon. They get all sorts of tax incentives and tax abatements because they create so many jobs and provide such a boost to the local economy. How is that any different from what you're proposing? You're saying the solution is give these corporations MORE incentives? That's gonna solve everything?

:oldlol:

Also, while we're at it, I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by trying to paint Trump as some sort of failed businessman. That would be like trying to paint Michael Jordan as a failed basketball player. He's one of the most successful businessmen of our time. I know you have an irrational hate boner for Orange Face but you really strip yourself of all credibility when you say stupid things like that.

Trump is behind countless business ventures. He has his hand in real estate all across the globe, golf courses, resorts, entertainment and media, branding and licensing, etc. I'd say he's done pretty well for himself but you would rather hyperfocus on his failures. Again that would be like criticizing Michael Jordan in a game because he didn't make every shot and only went 14/20.

It reveals that more than anything, your opinion and your worldview isn't really informed by facts or logic, but rather your seething hatred of Orange Face because you think he's the antichrist.

[ILLsmak]

In a proper capitalist society, textile work would pay well. It would involve high tech equipment, but since it is necessary, people would get paid from it. Just like welders and plumbers make decent money now if they do it well. You have to get rid of the export it to slave labor option. Just like you gotta get rid of the exploit migrants option. Things need to be re-valued, and the good part about a tariff (alho I’d prefer it be toward the company selling not buying) is that it decreases the profit by doing such. There should be humanitarian tariffs at least.

Dunno how this whole trade war is gonna work out, but we do need to make our own stuff. Keeping people who live in tiny apartments and paying them dog shit here seems more responsible than them getting slaved overseas, but the cost to even be alive is more here. Why? Our economy is more balanced, simply. The value of work should be roughly equal in the ideal. The difference would be resources and technology.

-Smak

[BigKobeFan]

I specifically asked you to respond in your own words because I didn't want you to just seek some random blog or YT video out of desperation in order to make your point for you. And yet even when tasked with this simple request, you couldn't resist.

So in other words, as expected, your entire argument isn't even your own. You couldn't even parse out the information and explain it in layman terms. It's just someone else telling you what to think.

Hes messycan. They never do their own homework

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/NLYedVBviu0?si=aFITzkfcTTXiLW39

:roll:

We win again fam :lol

[j3lademaster]

Okay so enlighten us then since you're the expert. How does America bring back manufacturing?

In your own words.

You don’t. You delegate manufacturing to Bangladesh and Vietnam and focus on value added industries like ai, chips, energy, finance etc. Why do you think Nike wants to open sweatshops in these countries but keep their base of operations in a much more expensive country like the US? Because stability is worth the extra cost. If we keep playing grab-ass with tariffs it will hurt our credibility and stability and dissuade domestic investment in the long run.

[Off the Court]

I can't even imagine how embarrassed warriorfan is right now, being a devout Trumptard and all.

[1987_Lakers]

So much winning. India & Vietnam coming to us is huge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doBucvQMbZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcfma8F1-ZE

[warriorfan]

https://youtu.be/NLYedVBviu0?si=aFITzkfcTTXiLW39

:roll:

We win again fam :lol

You will always be a dirty beaner.

[TheMan]

I can't even imagine how embarrassed warriorfan is right now, being a devout Trumptard and all.

His feeble mind only allows him to "hit" back with racial slurs. He's too stupid to actually engage in a debate arguing for Trump's tariffs being a success so far (because even when he's a dimwitted methy, in the few hours of clarity when he isn't high, he knows the truth).

[TheMan]

You will always be a dirty beaner.

Lol, I didn't scroll down enough to see this but right on cue, lol. That hillbilly is soooo predictable haha

[TheMan]

So much winning. India & Vietnam coming to us is huge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doBucvQMbZ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcfma8F1-ZE

Either you live in an alternate reality or just outright trolling.

[RRR3]

Either you live in an alternate reality or just outright trolling.
Fascists do not admit when they are wrong.

[warriorfan]

TheBeaner with 3x post meltdown about the orange man

:roll:

Deranged.

[Baller234]

TheBeaner with 3x post meltdown about the orange man

:roll:

Deranged.

The anti-Trump cult wants you to know they care very deeply about the health of the stock market and overall economy.

But nothing to say when democrats thought it was a great idea to lock down all the blue states for over a year.

[TheMan]

https://youtu.be/k7rDzU4TSbo?si=O4mrixByt77LJ1I5

Chinese media clowning Trump for caving in :lol


https://youtu.be/4SQ0k8-wiog?si=UWwWz89rNZu8IQmv

Comment section is wild :roll: ...on Fox News mind you, his propaganda state network :oldlol:

[Baller234]

TheMan, why did you even purport yourself to be some type of honest broker of information in our initial exchange when it's clear you're just another rabid anti-Trump cultist?

Are you even interested in having an honest conversation and defending your baseless arguments, or are you just going to wave your poms poms for China and root against America because Trump losing the optics war is more important to you?

Not to mention you're just setting yourself up for failure. This tug of war is going to last a bit but inevitably this is all going to work itself out and the stock market will rebound just like it always does, just like it rebounded under Brandon. What will you say then? Don't you see it's foolish to put all of your eggs into this one basket?

Honestly though I'm not even sure if you want to see that. I think you actually would rather see full on economic calamity because then you would get to say I told you so.

[tpols]

🎶 Nacho Nacho maaan...

I want to eaaattt some nachos maaan! 🎶



https://youtu.be/_bLRaGo-Qwc?si=GyIzgtJmZIgF8DTp

:lol

[warriorfan]

TheMan, why did you even purport yourself to be some type of honest broker of information in our initial exchange when it's clear you're just another rabid anti-Trump cultist?

Are you even interested in having an honest conversation and defending your baseless arguments, or are you just going to wave your poms poms for China and root against America because Trump losing the optics war is more important to you?

Not to mention you're just setting yourself up for failure. This tug of war is going to last a bit but inevitably this is all going to work itself out and the stock market will rebound just like it always does, just like it rebounded under Brandon. What will you say then? Don't you see it's foolish to put all of your eggs into this one basket?

Honestly though I'm not even sure if you want to see that. I think you actually would rather see full on economic calamity because then you would get to say I told you so.

To be blunt he’s a self loathing loser and instead of trying to do better he would rather pray for everyone to get dragged down to his level. He’s basically a mexican RRR3. Misery loves company and existence is pain.

[TheMan]

To be blunt he’s a self loathing loser and instead of trying to do better he would rather pray for everyone to get dragged down to his level. He’s basically a mexican RRR3. Misery loves company and existence is pain.

I own my on business, we import from China, the tariffs would hurt my business, Trump is an incompetent fool that is hurting my bottom line...

You're a methy, incel and inbred hillbilly with multiple alts...what a life!

[TheMan]

TheMan, why did you even purport yourself to be some type of honest broker of information in our initial exchange when it's clear you're just another rabid anti-Trump cultist?

Are you even interested in having an honest conversation and defending your baseless arguments, or are you just going to wave your poms poms for China and root against America because Trump losing the optics war is more important to you?

Not to mention you're just setting yourself up for failure. This tug of war is going to last a bit but inevitably this is all going to work itself out and the stock market will rebound just like it always does, just like it rebounded under Brandon. What will you say then? Don't you see it's foolish to put all of your eggs into this one basket?

Honestly though I'm not even sure if you want to see that. I think you actually would rather see full on economic calamity because then you would get to say I told you so.

No you dummy. I want the US and China to continue trading. If America wants manufacturing jobs back in America, doing it the smart way, tariffs alone won't do it, you aren't this stupid to not realize this.

As a US citizen, I would love for Trump to be successful, but my gut told me he would be an unmitigated disaster...again. Dude is polling 38% on his handling of the economy...on a Fox News poll. He's well on his way to 30 something percent approval ratings, which I predicted, only he's getting there much faster than I thought.

[warriorfan]

I own my on business, we import from China, the tariffs would hurt my business, Trump is an incompetent fool that is hurting my bottom line...

You're a methy, incel and inbred hillbilly with multiple alts...what a life!

Why the hell are you importing Tacos from China?

[TeflonDonTrump]

Why the hell are you importing Tacos from China?

HAHHAHAH

even the beaner with a cart can't make a decent taco so he has to import it from China. Thats why we don't want messycans here in the USA.

[Baller234]

No you dummy. I want the US and China to continue trading. If America wants manufacturing jobs back in America, doing it the smart way, tariffs alone won't do it, you aren't this stupid to not realize this.

As a US citizen, I would love for Trump to be successful, but my gut told me he would be an unmitigated disaster...again. Dude is polling 38% on his handling of the economy...on a Fox News poll. He's well on his way to 30 something percent approval ratings, which I predicted, only he's getting there much faster than I thought.

Lol not only do you think America should outsource all it's jobs, your own opinions are outsourced. :oldlol:

Your opinion essentially boils down to "Trump is doing bad on the economy because I saw a poll on TV". If it's not that it's "Trump is losing the Trade War because state run Chinese media said so".

Before I asked you how to bring back jobs to America and your brilliant plan was to lower taxes on corporations and give them more privileges. Well clearly that hasn't worked. As long it makes fiscal sense to outsource jobs, people are going to. That might be good for their bottom line, but it's not good for America.

If you want America to be your base of operation, there should be an incentive to keep everything in house. Not only do we need the jobs, but we need to not be dependent on other countries. We need to be a productive country again and not just outsource everything. It would enrich the country and enrich everyone living here as a result.

What exactly is the problem here?? Even if we don't fully attain this goal, isn't this something we should be striving for??

[Hey Yo]

�� Nacho Nacho maaan...

I want to eaaattt some nachos maaan! ��



https://youtu.be/_bLRaGo-Qwc?si=GyIzgtJmZIgF8DTp

:lol

:roll:

[Hey Yo]

Why the hell are you importing Tacos from China?

:roll:

[ZenMaster]

two weeks into a twenty year project... we'll sure see about that. in addition to the question of it's longevity, we'll see if trump and his advisors can adapt and react the way baller321 claims they can. the way the tariffs are layed out now isn't sustainable in the long run and any "short term" pain is going to be a hell of an understatement for those barely making ends in both their personal and small businesses. prices are going to *ucking skyrocket, particularly out of china. gonna be very interesting to see where all of this goes (no sarcasm).


Well it took like 60 years to move all those jobs to Asia, so it's going to take a while to get some of them back again.
The way tariffs are laid out now won't be how they're laid out once new trade deals are made.



there's too many variables at play here to make such a generalized statement. one major turn of events would be trump taking us to war with iran. then those gas prices you speak of will be no *ucking joke. you're gonna see more bikes than cars out there on the streets if that's ends up being the case.

Do you only assume that negative things will happen in the future?



i can't tell you why. you tell me bro (again, no sarcasm or passive aggressiveness here). but it's not only just 'i don't trust trump' - it's that i don't trust any moth3r****er - especially the mf'ers in washington whomever they may be. everybody's either influenced by ideologies and ego or bought off by somebody or something but i hope for everybody's sake you and anyone else putting stock into this endeavor ends up being right.

Because tariffs are a natural protection for local workers, they work that way for all other countries and will the same for the US. Brings the price of cheap imports closer to more expensive locally produced products.

[ZenMaster]

I own my on business, we import from China, the tariffs would hurt my business, Trump is an incompetent fool that is hurting my bottom line...

You're a methy, incel and inbred hillbilly with multiple alts...what a life!

Why don't you just pass the extra cost on to the consumer like you say everyone else will?

[j3lademaster]

Why don't you just pass the extra cost on to the consumer like you say everyone else will?

Whether you even can is dependent on the elasticity of your industry.

[TheMan]

Why the hell are you importing Tacos from China?

Henney Bear Mexico, only authorized dealer in Mexico, Google it.

[TheMan]

Why don't you just pass the extra cost on to the consumer like you say everyone else will?

Because then we won't be competitive with other brands that import from Europe, the US or anywhere else. They'll be priced out range of our target market.

[TheMan]

Lol not only do you think America should outsource all it's jobs, your own opinions are outsourced. :oldlol:

Your opinion essentially boils down to "Trump is doing bad on the economy because I saw a poll on TV". If it's not that it's "Trump is losing the Trade War because state run Chinese media said so".

Before I asked you how to bring back jobs to America and your brilliant plan was to lower taxes on corporations and give them more privileges. Well clearly that hasn't worked. As long it makes fiscal sense to outsource jobs, people are going to. That might be good for their bottom line, but it's not good for America.

If you want America to be your base of operation, there should be an incentive to keep everything in house. Not only do we need the jobs, but we need to not be dependent on other countries. We need to be a productive country again and not just outsource everything. It would enrich the country and enrich everyone living here as a result.

What exactly is the problem here?? Even if we don't fully attain this goal, isn't this something we should be striving for??

Meh, I'm done going back and forth with you. You aren't a serious person, you can't see or you refuse to see how China is making Trump look like a buffoon to the rest of the world. Stay in your bubble, pal.

[ZenMaster]

Because then we won't be competitive with other brands that import from Europe, the US or anywhere else. They'll be priced out range of our target market.

Sounds like you have the solution to your problems right in front of you then..

[warriorfan]

Sounds like you have the solution to your problems right in front of you then..

No, TheMan needs to buy slave labor ali express garbage from china to sell in his bodega in Mexico. He has no other options. There is no other alternative. Trump is killing off this entrepreneur that is benefitting the community so much. I mean imagine a world where Mexican women aren’t buying cheap Chinese purses? It will be the end of America as we know it.

[Baller234]

Meh, I'm done going back and forth with you. You aren't a serious person, you can't see or you refuse to see how China is making Trump look like a buffoon to the rest of the world. Stay in your bubble, pal.

Wow, this is so insanely dishonest of you. Cowardly too.

I deconstructed your so called "solution" that you no doubt repeated because you heard it from Kyle Kulinski or something, and then when presented with simple questions that cut straight to the hole in your logic... all of a sudden you no longer want to engage.

Guy gets 100% of his opinions from Kyle Kulinski and his bimbo wife from Breaking Points, but has the nerve to accuse others of existing in a bubble.

[BigKobeFan]

Henney Bear Mexico, only authorized dealer in Mexico, Google it.

This clown claims to own a single business in messyco and cant understand why he cant pass the cost to consumers

I dont think he understanda what elastic and inelastic means.

But he never went to school

[BigKobeFan]

Sounds like you have the solution to your problems right in front of you then..

He doesnt get it

[BigKobeFan]

No, TheMan needs to buy slave labor ali express garbage from china to sell in his bodega in Mexico. He has no other options. There is no other alternative. Trump is killing off this entrepreneur that is benefitting the community so much. I mean imagine a world where Mexican women aren’t buying cheap Chinese purses? It will be the end of America as we know it.

Hes not a smart person

[Bill Gates]

Are any of the MAGA cultists here even capable of questioning Trump at all?

Is the diamenz really the only right leaning poster here who can do that? Even Musk says the tariffs are horrible idea. Every time it looks like Trump wants to back down, the market reacts positively.

This tariff topic shows you exactly who the Trump sheep cucks are, that cling to his every action. And who it is that are capable of having their own opinions.

[warriorfan]

Are any of the MAGA cultists here even capable of questioning Trump at all?

Is the diamenz really the only right leaning poster here who can do that? Even Musk says the tariffs are horrible idea. Every time it looks like Trump wants to back down, the market reacts positively.

This tariff topic shows you exactly who the Trump sheep cucks are, that cling to his every action. And who it is that are capable of having their own opinions.

This post was rated at a 78 IQ.


Nice.

[Bill Gates]

This post was rated at a 78 IQ.


Nice.
You buy into an online IQ reader.

[Baller234]

Are any of the MAGA cultists here even capable of questioning Trump at all?

Is the diamenz really the only right leaning poster here who can do that? Even Musk says the tariffs are horrible idea. Every time it looks like Trump wants to back down, the market reacts positively.

This tariff topic shows you exactly who the Trump sheep cucks are, that cling to his every action. And who it is that are capable of having their own opinions.

We're in the cult and not you? Okay then, prove us wrong.

Say something genuinely positive about Trump without it being sarcastic or out of mockery. What's something he's done or proposed throughout his entire tenure in politics that you support or approve of.

[Bill Gates]

We're in the cult and not you? Okay then, prove us wrong.

Say something genuinely positive about Trump without it being sarcastic or out of mockery. What's something he's done or proposed throughout his entire tenure in politics that you support or approve of.

Getting the vaccine out and taking it himself to curb his conspiracy minded following was a worthy move.

Your turn

[Baller234]

Getting the vaccine out and taking it himself to curb his conspiracy minded following was a worthy move.

Your turn

My turn to do what?

I do appreciate your answer though. There's only one problem. If you believe that Trump was right in how he approached the vaccine, doesn't that mean the democrats were lying and intentionally trying to fear monger?

I mean which conspiracy minded people are you referring to? You have to specify. When Trump first talked about the vaccine, the most vocal group in opposition advocating for people not to take it were democrats.

So you're all but admitting that Biden, Harris, Cuomo and all the top democrats at the time... including their cohorts in media... were trying to scare the public into not taking a life saving vaccine.

[RRR3]

Getting the vaccine out and taking it himself to curb his conspiracy minded following was a worthy move.

Your turn
He can't do it :roll:

[RRR3]

This post was rated at a 78 IQ.


Nice.
Banned :roll:

[j3lademaster]

He can't do it :roll:

Honestly, Gates gave up a ton of ground as soon as he answered Baller. Exercises like that are old sales/ office politics tactics to put yourself or whoever/ whatever product or service in a good light.

[Bill Gates]

Honestly, Gates gave up a ton of ground as soon as he answered Baller. Exercises like that are old sales/ office politics tactics to put yourself or whoever/ whatever product or service in a good light.

He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM

"do any of you ever question Trump?"

Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"

[j3lademaster]

I don't think anyone here is rooting for China. People want Trump to 'win' because he's the president, he represents us and if he wins we will do well; but that doesn't mean you just sit there and pretend everything he's doing is okay and mock any kind of criticism that comes his way. Let's review what objectively happened:

Trump ups tariffs to China to 34%, China does nothing.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 84%, China matches.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 145%, China matches again.

Trump announces he wants Xi to call him, China does nothing.

Trump announces he's ready to make a deal, China does nothing.

Trump rolls back tariffs.

If this is the guy closing a merger for a firm you're working for you're probably sweating and putting your resume out there in preparation, not defending him. All the while the tariffs are hurting small businesses and american consumers.

[j3lademaster]

He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM

"do any of you ever question Trump?"

Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"Exactly. You tried to reply in good faith and said something positive about Trump under his terms in a game he created where he's keeping score. Did he reciprocate? Nope.

He got you there. JS.

[RRR3]

He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM

"do any of you ever question Trump?"

Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"

DON'T QUESTION MY DEAR LEADER
:roll:

[Bill Gates]

Did he reciprocate? Nope.

proving he is in a cult

1-0 me

[BigKobeFan]

Banned :roll:

What a shit forum. You get a guy like lakers spewing nonsense and insults about peoples weight and gets away with it

Then warrior makes fun of taco by saying hes low iq and gets banned

[TheMan]

What a shit forum. You get a guy like lakers spewing nonsense and insults about peoples weight and gets away with it

Then warrior makes fun of taco by saying hes low iq and gets banned

I know you refer to me as TheTacoMan (how original) but it wasn't me he made fun of, dummy. It was aimed at Bill Gates. You really are quite dim, aren't you? Besides, warriorfan adds nothing but ad hominem attacks and racial slurs, he adds nothing but toxicity here. Still I ain't a snitch and all his racial slurs I have never reported him.

[ZenMaster]

I don't think anyone here is rooting for China. People want Trump to 'win' because he's the president, he represents us and if he wins we will do well; but that doesn't mean you just sit there and pretend everything he's doing is okay and mock any kind of criticism that comes his way. Let's review what objectively happened:

Trump ups tariffs to China to 34%, China does nothing.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 84%, China matches.

Trump ups tariffs to China to 145%, China matches again.

Trump announces he wants Xi to call him, China does nothing.

Trump announces he's ready to make a deal, China does nothing.

Trump rolls back tariffs.

If this is the guy closing a merger for a firm you're working for you're probably sweating and putting your resume out there in preparation, not defending him. All the while the tariffs are hurting small businesses and american consumers.

Plenty to criticize Trump for, like not considering excluding tariffs on auto parts or various electronics to begin with.

Wiki says your timeline is off.


February 1: President Trump increased tariffs on China by 10%.

February 4: China responded with a 15% tariff on coal and liquified natural gas products, and 10% on crude oil, agricultural machinery and large-displacement cars.

March 3: President Trump raised levies on Chinese goods by another 10% to a cumulative 20%. He also implemented new 25% tariffs on imports from Mexico and Canada, thereby initiating new trade disputes with the three primary US trading partners.[252]

March 4: China retaliated by imposing a 15% tariff on chicken, wheat, corn, and cotton originating in the United States;[253] and a 10% tariff on sorghum, soybeans, pork, beef, aquatic products, fruits, vegetables, and dairy products originating in the United States, effective on March 10, 2025.[254][255]

April 2: Trump raised the tariffs on China by another 34%, after accusing China of tariff and non-tariff trade barriers of 67% as part of his reciprocal tariffs policy, expressed during his "Liberation Day" speech.[256][257] The White House confirmed tariffs would stack on top of previous impositions, resulting in an effective tariff rate of 54% on all Chinese imports to the US beginning in one week.[258]

April 4: China announced that it would impose additional tariffs of 34% on all US goods effective April 10.[259]

April 7: Trump threatened to impose an additional 50% tariff on Chinese goods on April 9 if China did not withdraw its retaliatory measure of a 34% tariff on all US goods by 8 April. This would boost the effective 54% tariffs on China on April 9 to 104%.[260]

April 9: China responded with retaliatory tariffs of 84% on US goods.[261] In response, Trump increased tariffs on Chinese goods to 125% on the same day. However, the White House clarified the next day that the tariff rate had risen to 145%.[18]

April 11: China, in retaliation, announced an increase in tariffs on all American imports from the previous 84% to 125%, set to take effect on April 12.[262]

April 11: The US announces reciprocal tariffs will exclude consumer electronics from tariffs from most countries, but retains a 20% tariff on electronics from China.[263]

April 11: China suspended exports of a wide range of minerals and magnets critical to auto, defense, aerospace, and semiconductor industries; the Chinese government plans to introduce a new regulatory system to prevent access to American companies.[264]

[n00bie]

China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.

So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.

[diamenz]

Well it took like 60 years to move all those jobs to Asia, so it's going to take a while to get some of them back again.
The way tariffs are laid out now won't be how they're laid out once new trade deals are made.

you don't know that. you're giving trump to much benefit of the doubt. approach everyone and everything with skepticism and questions, remember? in the end if credit is due? whether it be trump, biden, democrat or republican - by all means.





Do you only assume that negative things will happen in the future?

mmm... yeah. can you blame me?

edit: and btw that wasn't a reference to orange man being bad but rather just in a general sense.

[BigKobeFan]

China just cancelled 12,000 metric tons of US pork, and decided to buy from Spain and Europe instead.

So basically China made deals with other countries before cutting off supply. Opposite of what Trump has been doing, which has been randomly shutting off supply at 3am on Twitter.

Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

AI Overview



+3
Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed

[j3lademaster]

Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

AI Overview



+3
Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.

[TeflonDonTrump]

You would be on a dem president like crazy if they botched this deal, but because it’s your guy then it’s “hey it’s a small deal anyway”. C’mon Carl, you went to Berkeley. You’re smarter than this.

I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.

[Baller234]

He did what they always do when put in a hard spot. WHATABOUTSIM

"do any of you ever question Trump?"

Baller234: *ignores the question entirely* "what about you though?"

What more proof do you need that I'm not a blind Trump follower? I'm not the one who's vaccinated. You are.

I told myself from the jump that I wasn't going to get vaccinated when Trump was in office. Didn't matter if he was behind it or not. What do I remember though is democrats swearing up and down that it wasn't going to be safe. The most prominent figures in the democratic party were the ones repeating this narrative. You all know it. You were there. This was the gameplan for democrats all the way up until November 2020.

By January 2021 a mere 2 months later the dems were singing the complete opposite tune. Now not only was the vaccine Safe & Effective(TM) but you were a bad person for not wanting to get it. You're a racist, a bigot, a plague spreader and you wanted to kill everyone around you.

So I'm sorry Bill Gates but you can't have it both ways. If you genuinely approve of the way Trump handled the vaccine, which you just admitted, then that means by default the democrats were committing an act of unspeakable evil. They were trying to scare the average american from taking a potentially live saving vaccine purely over politics and not wanting the other guy to score the W.

So let's see who's in the cult:

Baller234

- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said no to the vaccine when Biden was president

Sheep Democrats

- Said no to the vaccine when Trump was president
- Said yes to the vaccine when Biden was president


Now you're claiming you never said no to the vaccine even when Trump was president. Okay so by that rationale the democrats are evil scum fukks who intentionally deceived the public and played politics with people's lives.

Yet here you are still carrying water for them...

....

....

Odd indeed.

[n00bie]

Oh no. 12000 metric tons for a population of 1.5b

AI Overview



+3
Yes, Spain is a major exporter of pork, especially to China. In 2023, Spain was the leading exporter of pig meat, with exports valued at $6.54 billion. Spain is also a significant exporter to China, with pork accounting for a large percentage of their total pork exports and a significant portion of China's total pork imports.

So nothing has changed

That was ONE order.

[BigKobeFan]

That was ONE order.

How many are imported yearly?

[Axe]

I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.
Lol wrong account.

[j3lademaster]

I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.

Don't be like that, Carl. We had good times playing intramural basketball.

[Jasper]

trump and cash --- i am rich

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2436460449806706&rdid=J5aGKoTJwqbPGBtU

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h20gTOUBZYc

[Chick Stern]

I don't agree with trumps tariffs dummy.

You deep throated Trump’s tariffs

[TheMan]

I'm convinced OP is trolling at this point with his idiotic videos that show an alternate reality. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRaOud_ydaA&t

We win again fam!

[1987_Lakers]

I'm convinced OP is trolling at this point with his idiotic videos that show an alternate reality. :lol

Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.



https://youtu.be/NLYedVBviu0?si=aFITzkfcTTXiLW39

:roll:

We win again fam :lol

Epic fail

[TheMan]

Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.



Epic fail

Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:

[MrFonzworth]

Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:

:yaohappy:

[TheMan]

Says the guy who wrongly reported Trump was lowering tariffs on China.



Epic fail

https://youtu.be/iEGgHbmk6pU?si=r4_NjOVx1Rv7On_M

You goofball, straight from Trump's mouth :roll:

[RRR3]

19-87 IQ :roll:

[1987_Lakers]

Trump himself said he was lowering tariffs bro, I didn't make that up :roll:

Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.


https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4

We win again fam!!

[Hey Yo]

NachoMan cooked again as he doesn't get the shot off in time.

Trump rally in Michigan tonight

:rockon:

[TheMan]

Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.


https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4

We win again fam!!

Lol, they aren't talking yet. Just because Trump says they are you actually believe someone who lies profusely? Wow.


https://youtu.be/FSSF86YeNvI?si=8U3j4xQ1UBfYA7-F

Even Secretary of Treasury Scott Bessent said he's not aware of any talks between China and the US. Pathetic you believe a pathological liar and believe what he says, hook, line and sinker :lol

[TheMan]

NachoMan cooked again as he doesn't get the shot off in time.

Trump rally in Michigan tonight

:rockon:

Boomer is a low IQ MAGA cultist

[bladefd]

Wrong, he said he would lower once him and China start talking which is already happening. China themselves is already lowering. You actually thought he was lowering them last week. Epic fail.


https://youtu.be/qozD-2jjlS4

We win again fam!!

You are a clueless sheep.

China isn't talking with Trump or negotiating. While Trump is sitting around lying about xi calling him and lying about ongoing negotiations, China flat out said they are not calling Trump and won't be backing down and urging all developing markets to not deal with Trump.


China vows to stand firm, urges nations to resist ‘bully’ Trump

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said appeasement will only embolden the “bully” at a BRICS meeting, rallying the group of emerging-market nations to fight back against US levies.

China’s top diplomat warned countries against caving into US tariff threats, as the Trump administration hints at the possible use of new trade tools to pressure Beijing.

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said appeasement will only embolden the “bully” at a BRICS meeting, rallying the group of emerging-market nations to fight back against US levies. The stern remarks show China intends to resist pressure to enter trade talks even as US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent suggests Washington could ban certain exports to China to gain leverage.

Wang’s call to the international community underscores China’s attempt to portray itself as the bastion of free trade as US tariffs threaten to reshape commerce globally. Beijing has repeatedly urged allies to defend multilateralism and told other governments not to cut deals with the US president at China’s expense. China has repeatedly denied being engaged in trade talks with the US. Instead, Beijing has demanded mutual respect and a cancellation of all tariffs before any negotiations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/comments/1kadl0p/china_officially_makes_statement_stating_that_all/

[Hey Yo]

Poor Blade.... he'd believe a broken clock is right 24hrs a day before he'd believe anything his President says.

[Baller234]

Neither side is ever going to publicly admit they have a weak hand. :oldlol:

[BurningHammer]

Poor Blade.... he'd believe a broken clock is right 24hrs a day before he'd believe anything his President says.

:roll:

[RRR3]

:roll:
"Why won't you believe what Dear Leader says?" :oldlol:

[TheMan]

"Why won't you believe what Dear Leader says?" :oldlol:

Please believe my Dear Leader :cry: :cry: :cry:

The MAGA cult is a real thing :lol Delusional bunch of low IQ cucks

[1987_Lakers]

Same people calling Trump a liar are the same people believing everything China is saying. Let that sink in.

This is the same communist country that lies about its own population and economic gains. :oldlol:

[Baller234]

Same people calling Trump a liar are the same people believing everything China is saying. Let that sink in.

This is the same communist country that lies about its own population and economic gains. :oldlol:

I think China lies to it's people just like America lies to it's people.

Let's be honest, if for whatever reason Trump were losing the poker game, it's not like he would ever admit it. He can't. That defeats the purpose of the game. The same applies to China. Both sides are going to spin W's as L's and L's as W's.

The people on this forum rooting against Trump right now aren't really concerned about the stock market. I doubt they even have much money in the stock market. I'm also guessing that mostly everyone here is far from retirement age. So don't tell me that now all of a sudden they have a personal stake in this when just a few short years ago they were the ones on the other side doing everything they could to wreck the economy. Not only that, they did with glee and with a smile.

All in the name of saving lives of course, just not during protest season.

[Axe]

Is the 4chan community promoting sinophobia these days? :ohwell:

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3izc4LuFag

11:06 mark. Caught red handed talking to the USA about a deal. :oldlol:

Trump haters really believed everything China was telling them. Sad.

[Overdrive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3izc4LuFag

11:06 mark. Caught red handed talking to the USA about a deal. :oldlol:

Trump haters really believed everything China was telling them. Sad.

You believe everything random yt videos tell you.

[1987_Lakers]

You believe everything random yt videos tell you.

You believe everything CNN tells you.

[RRR3]

How much would OP pay to suck Trump’s dick?


I’m guessing minimum thousands.

[1987_Lakers]

How much would OP pay to suck Trump’s dick?


I’m guessing minimum thousands.

Stop projecting. You said you would date a tranny. If Trump was wearing a lady wig you could be the first in line to blow him.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/02/china-says-its-evaluating-us-overtures-to-initiate-talks-on-trade.html

Looks like not even mainstream media can deny it at this point.

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

We win again fam.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqCSzeXJXQk

[TheMan]

That's a good sign but you know Trump lifted tariffs on a bunch of Chinese products beforehand, right?

I don't care who caves in, just end this moronic trade war, it's costing me money :mad:

[BurningHammer]

You believe everything CNN tells you.

At least CNN has spent a lot of money to fool you :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

That's a good sign but you know Trump lifted tariffs on a bunch of Chinese products beforehand, right?

I don't care who caves in, just end this moronic trade war, it's costing me money :mad:
We got them right where we want them, no need to lift tariffs at the moment. Stock market is looking better while China is taking a big hit (which isn't being reported by mainstream media) Patience is key. Once India signs the trade deal with us, which seems very likely, along with other countries, this will only give us more leverage against China.

[highwhey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3izc4LuFag

11:06 mark. Caught red handed talking to the USA about a deal. :oldlol:

Trump haters really believed everything China was telling them. Sad.

you're mentally retarded. they have deepseek and better energy than us.

[j3lademaster]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/02/china-says-its-evaluating-us-overtures-to-initiate-talks-on-trade.html

Looks like not even mainstream media can deny it at this point.

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

We win again fam.


Senior U.S. officials have reached out recently “through relevant parties multiple times,” hoping to start negotiations with China on tariffs, a spokesperson for the Commerce Ministry said in a statement Friday.

While assessing the possibility of starting any negotiations, Chinese authorities reiterated Beijing’s request for the U.S. to remove all unilateral tariffs. Failure to do so would indicate “an outright lack of sincerity” from Washington and “further compromise mutual trust,” according to a CNBC translation.

“If the U.S. wants to talk, it should show its sincerity and be prepared to correct its wrong practices and cancel the unilateral tariffs,” according to the statement.

Looks like China has all of the leverage here. Why don’t you people ever read your own sources.

[1987_Lakers]

you're mentally retarded. they have deepseek and better energy than us.

And reports come out that China is open to talks right after I posted that vid. No coincidence there.

Truth is they have been talking for a while.

Worry about your weight before you lash out like a child.

[1987_Lakers]

Looks like China has all of the leverage here. Why don’t you people ever read your own sources.

What leverage? They are just quoting both USA and Chinese officials. Even after all the lies from China we still have people here eating up everything they say. Sad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXe_9JUzrfU&t

We win again fam

[ShawkFactory]

Looks like China has all of the leverage here. Why don’t you people ever read your own sources.

It's truly comical.

I can't remember if it was him or the other guy who makes points solely with articles, but there was one a few months ago that had a headline that buddy thought was a gotcha thing...but the article itself said the exact opposite of what he wanted it to. It was beautiful to see :lol

[j3lademaster]

What leverage? They are just quoting both USA and Chinese officials. Even after all the lies from China we still have people here eating up everything they say. Sad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXe_9JUzrfU&t

We win again fam
That’s not the conversation. The source you linked implies heavily that China has the leverage since they’re being asked multiple times to trade negotiations, and China replies in order to start trade talks US has to rescind the tariffs. Stop trying to change the subject and admit you don’t read your own sources. You read the title, arrive at the conclusion you want from it, and assume everyone else is just as dumb and lazy as you when you post it as one of your “wins”.

[j3lademaster]

It's truly comical.

I can't remember if it was him or the other guy who makes points solely with articles, but there was one a few months ago that had a headline that buddy thought was a gotcha thing...but the article itself said the exact opposite of what he wanted it to. It was beautiful to see :lol
The US will take back the tariffs, and naturally the economy will improve because of it. Trump will celebrate it as a win and claim the tariffs was 4d chess to get them to the negotiating table where he was able to get better terms for it, which in reality are slightly worse terms and all he really did was undo his initial ****up.

[1987_Lakers]

It was a typo guys. This is the article I wanted to post

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-open-talks-trump-admin-lowering-tariffs-ministry-says



We win again fam!

[warriorfan]

This blademaster ch1nk needs to go back to China asap.

[1987_Lakers]

It's truly comical.

I can't remember if it was him or the other guy who makes points solely with articles, but there was one a few months ago that had a headline that buddy thought was a gotcha thing...but the article itself said the exact opposite of what he wanted it to. It was beautiful to see :lol

That was off the court or bill gates. I called them out on it.

[BurningHammer]

It was a typo guys. This is the article I wanted to post

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-open-talks-trump-admin-lowering-tariffs-ministry-says



We win again fam!

Sky "News" Australia, then Fox "News". :roll::roll::roll:

[j3lademaster]

This blademaster ch1nk needs to go back to China asap.

You realize people like Trump and Elon want me here way more than you, right? People like me are the backbone of our financial system. What use are things like you?

[warriorfan]

You realize people like Trump and Elon want me here way more than you, right? People like me are the backbone of our financial system. What use are things like you?

No we don’t dude.

Stop crying and go back to China. For real.

[RRR3]

No we don’t dude.

Stop crying and go back to China. For real.
"We"





HE ACTUALLY THINKS TRUMP AND ELON ARE HIS FRIENDS :roll: :roll: :roll:

[warriorfan]

"We"





HE ACTUALLY THINKS TRUMP AND ELON ARE HIS FRIENDS :roll: :roll: :roll:

Never said anything about friends. What a weird projection since we all know you literally don’t have any.

Get help my little frizzy haired man.

Existence is pain.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxS8zFI_RY

[1987_Lakers]

Sky "News" Australia, then Fox "News". :roll::roll::roll:

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExczN6ZjcwNXNyeGMxMzNsaHc4OWtiMTB pYTY5enB4bWxpMnNueHZ5diZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk/giphy.gif

[TheMan]

You realize people like Trump and Elon want me here way more than you, right? People like me are the backbone of our financial system. What use are things like you?
He's singlehandedly keeping meth dealers in business...that counts for something

[warriorfan]

He's singlehandedly keep meth dealers in business...that counts for something

Hmm, smells like dirty beaner.

At least he literally lives in mexico.

[Chick Stern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/644997621836152892/1367975989237387344/IMG_5771.jpg?ex=68168a6b&is=681538eb&hm=92b15386b95c06f7aad5cab36644b6d5e57714e8eb65b93 ff0d4f082b3e8a0db&

[highwhey]

He's singlehandedly keeping meth dealers in business...that counts for something

:roll:

[MrFonzworth]

"We"





HE ACTUALLY THINKS TRUMP AND ELON ARE HIS FRIENDS :roll: :roll: :roll:

What a dork:yaohappy:

[BurningHammer]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExczN6ZjcwNXNyeGMxMzNsaHc4OWtiMTB pYTY5enB4bWxpMnNueHZ5diZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/xT9IgHCTfp8CRshfQk/giphy.gif

I know :roll:

[BurningHammer]

"We"





HE ACTUALLY THINKS TRUMP AND ELON ARE HIS FRIENDS :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's the MAGA mindset.

[n00bie]

"We"





HE ACTUALLY THINKS TRUMP AND ELON ARE HIS FRIENDS :roll: :roll: :roll:

A combined of autism and meth will do that to you lol

[warriorfan]

A combined of autism and meth will do that to you lol

You scientifically have the smallest dick in the world. Better go distract yourself from this fact by googling stuff about Donald Trump when you don’t even live in America.

Good luck with all that!

[n00bie]

You scientifically have the smallest dick in the world. Better go distract yourself from this fact by googling stuff about Donald Trump when you don’t even live in America.

Good luck with all that!

How do I scientifically have the smallest dick in the world? Have you physically measured my dick? Or have you fantasized measuring my dick in one of your meth induced comas?

[RRR3]

How do I scientifically have the smallest dick in the world? Have you physically measured my dick? Or have you fantasized measuring my dick in one of your meth induced comas?
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[warriorfan]

How do I scientifically have the smallest dick in the world? Have you physically measured my dick? Or have you fantasized measuring my dick in one of your meth induced comas?

No you are chinese.

[TheMan]

How do I scientifically have the smallest dick in the world? Have you physically measured my dick? Or have you fantasized measuring my dick in one of your meth induced comas?

:lol

[warriorfan]

:lol

You are a dirty beaner.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAhmTV1MjzY

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRhJKBMv_YU&t

[1987_Lakers]

China is now hiding its economic data. :oldlol:

[tpols]

China is now hiding its economic data. :oldlol:

They've always done that.

[1987_Lakers]

They've always done that.

Doing it more so now.

[j3lademaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRhJKBMv_YU&t

This isn't caused by the trade war, but by hypercapitalism and China's insane population. The average chinese student is much more well-read and capable than the average american... by a lot... and that's why when you look at the top tech and engineering sectors they'll make up the majority of them. Competition in China is unfathomable to most who haven't lived there and seen it first hand. Makes American competition look like child's play, which is also why I don't like the US headed in that direction. China has no social security to fall back on which increases stress and pressure to save, which we're quickly heading toward as well. And the 996 that gets mentioned in the video? That means you work from 9am-9pm, 6 days per week. If you have a 1 hour commute, you're left with just 10 hours in your day so if you literally just eat, work and take care of personal hygiene the average person is still going to be short on sleep despite no hobbies or self care(like going to the gym). Not to mention someone with a masters in shanghai is probably making ~10k yuan/ month(yuan is about 7 to the $1) and a bowl of cheap takeout noodles is like 35 yuan there, so you're working super hard and can't even enjoy anything of quality. An average newer high rise flat is about 10k/mo by itself; you would imagine someone with a good job should be able to afford it, but it's not the case. So if this is your life, and you're one of the fortunate ones with a masters degree to even get that job in the first place, then why bother? That's what the 'lying flat' protest is. Less production and doing the minimum until you guys pay us. Obviously, like the video says, not everyone can afford to do that either.

But if I'm a billionaire and I want the most production which results in the most profit? You bet your ass I want the American work force to become more like China's.

[j3lademaster]

Doing it more so now.What are you basing this on, your 'feelings and intuition' or do you have empirical evidence for once?

[1987_Lakers]

This isn't caused by the trade war, but by hypercapitalism and China's insane population.

China lies about its population. Russia estimates their population is only 800 million


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbMWq-xvXU

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWvW7eo-mck

[highwhey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWvW7eo-mck

are you tired of winning?