Should the Memphis Grizzlies trade Ja Morant for Tyrese Maxey in the off season,?

[Lebron23]

if the Grizzlies losses in the play in.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Philly isn't doing that.

[John8204]

if the Grizzlies losses in the play in.

Ja is very popular in Memphis, he's the big draw for the team. I don't know if they would move him unless it's a Dallas situation where the owners want to move the team.

[Wardell Curry]

Ja is very popular in Memphis, he's the big draw for the team. I don't know if they would move him unless it's a Dallas situation where the owners want to move the team.

If you think people love Ja like they love Luka, you are insane. lol.

He's not even particularly good at basketball aside from carrying the shit out of the ball which he is spectacular at. #1 in NBA history by a country mile.

In fact I challenge anyone to show me a player that consistently carried or carries in a more egregious way than Ja Morant. The guy is a breath away from tucking it under his arm and running.

[Wardell Curry]

The guy is a below average shooter from almost everywhere on the court except the right wing for this season specifically.

If you take away the carrying he might not be in the league.

Consider me the #1 Ja Hater.

This isn't a "if you took away his athleticism" type criticism imo. That's a God given gift. What he is doing is just blatantly cheating in front of the refs and getting away with it. Not the same thing at all.

Ja has insane agility and that's about it. His dribble is not legit and he can't shoot. He doesn't play great defense and he's not a great passer and his court vision sucks.

The carrying the ball(read: cheating) allows him to do so many things that he would not otherwise be able to do.

He's right up there with James Harden vying for my least favorite on court player ever.

The people that thought this guy was ever going to be the best player in the league or that he was the new superstar to carry the torch, lol. That springiness and agility will mostly be gone by 30 and he'll be an afterthought if he isn't getting close already because then carrying the ball won't even matter.

[Wardell Curry]

https://i.postimg.cc/yNcSVPFr/Screenshot-2025-04-17-092135.png

How is the defender supposed to guard that? It's every play.

Look, Ja isn't alone. Luka does this shit a lot too. Kevin Durant, etc. I could go on and on with the names but this guy has taken it to a new level.

[Meticode]

If I were Philly I wouldn't look at Morant. Both are great offensive players. Morant probably has the edge on finishing around the rim because of his athleticism. Maxey is far away the better shooter, but giving Morant's off and on the court issues he's too much a flight risk to bring him in to play next to Embiid who has his own issues. They don't need two crazy heads in the locker room.

[Neal Romer]

The guy is a below average shooter from almost everywhere on the court except the right wing for this season specifically.

If you take away the carrying he might not be in the league.

Consider me the #1 Ja Hater.

This isn't a "if you took away his athleticism" type criticism imo. That's a God given gift. What he is doing is just blatantly cheating in front of the refs and getting away with it. Not the same thing at all.

Ja has insane agility and that's about it. His dribble is not legit and he can't shoot. He doesn't play great defense and he's not a great passer and his court vision sucks.

The carrying the ball(read: cheating) allows him to do so many things that he would not otherwise be able to do.

He's right up there with James Harden vying for my least favorite on court player ever.

The people that thought this guy was ever going to be the best player in the league or that he was the new superstar to carry the torch, lol. That springiness and agility will mostly be gone by 30 and he'll be an afterthought if he isn't getting close already because then carrying the ball won't even matter.



Ok, you're exaggerating everything here. And Morant's not a personal favorite of mine either.

Hes not a strong outside shooter but he is a good scorer around the basket. He can make a lot of shots other guys cant inside 12 feet. And whatever carrying he does that is so egregious, the whole league does it. Kyrie, Luka, Giannis, everyone (except Lebron.) Youre being dramatic acting like Ja is the only one doing it excessively. It's the standard now. It's not just him. And he is a talented passer, tho he doesnt always prioritize it as much as perhaps he should.

Is he a smart dude off the court? No. Is he a great leader in the locker room? My guess is no. Would I want him as my team's best player? No. Can I picture him remaining positive and productive if hes not treated as the team's best player? No. Therefore is there any scenario I can envision where hes part of a championship team? Not easily.

But the extent to which youre impugning his actual skill level is over the top. He is a talented and skilled player. Not a top 10 guy, tho if he had a winning attitude he might be pretty close. Hes a talented basketball player but his intangibles are just low.

[Wally450]

Tyrese doesn't have the off court problems that Ja has. Tyrese just needs a reliable available star next to him for Philly to be good.

[Wardell Curry]

Ok, you're exaggerating everything here. And Morant's not a personal favorite of mine either.

Hes not a strong outside shooter but he is a good scorer around the basket. He can make a lot of shots other guys cant inside 12 feet.

https://i.postimg.cc/d3GjfyBz/Screenshot-2025-04-17-110346.png

He's below league average at the rim and in the majority of the paint. He's below league average everywhere from 3 except the right wing.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/shot-chart-ja-morant-2025

He has three tiny spots he is at or above league average.


Kyrie, Luka, Giannis, everyone (except Lebron.) Youre being dramatic acting like Ja is the only one doing it excessively. It's the standard now. It's not just him. And he is a talented passer, tho he doesnt always prioritize it as much as perhaps he should.

This is true but Ja is the biggest offender. His hand is getting all the way underneath the ball on virtually every single possession.



Is he a smart dude off the court? No. Is he a great leader in the locker room? My guess is no. Would I want him as my team's best player? No. Can I picture him remaining positive and productive if hes not treated as the team's best player? No. Therefore is there any scenario I can envision where hes part of a championship team? Not easily.

But the extent to which youre impugning his actual skill level is over the top. He is a talented and skilled player. Not a top 10 guy, tho if he had a winning attitude he might be pretty close. Hes a talented basketball player but his intangibles are just low.

He's a talented athlete but he is not a talented basketball player. His springiness and agility are what keep him in the league. If this guy gets hurt again, and he probably will, that might be wraps. He is not using his brain out there to play. He is just relying on his agility and carrying the ball. When the agility goes, carrying the ball will no longer be enough. He will not still be a "star player" at 30.

We have a player in SGA that is about to win league MVP that is worlds less athletic than Ja that is a substantially better player because is smarter on the court. SGA is also carrying the ball regularly but not to the extent Morant is. I digress.

Anyways. I don't like this guy's game and he needs to get out of the league, I don't care about his off the court bullshit but I would if I were a Memphis fan.

[Wardell Curry]

And the other thing is a lot of guys are carrying the ball regularly but remaining in place. Ja specifically is hardcore carrying the ball as he takes his first step or is getting near the basket BEFORE the gather.

He is getting by guys because he is carrying.

SGA is getting by guys because he is confusing the hell out of them with counters, just as an example.

I hate Ja Morant the basketball player.

[John8204]

If you think people love Ja like they love Luka, you are insane. lol.

He's not even particularly good at basketball aside from carrying the shit out of the ball which he is spectacular at. #1 in NBA history by a country mile.

In fact I challenge anyone to show me a player that consistently carried or carries in a more egregious way than Ja Morant. The guy is a breath away from tucking it under his arm and running.

Tennessee and Texas are very different states with very different priorities. The Rockets dumped Hakeem and Moses, The Cowboys dumped Emmett Smith, Nolan Ryan had to cross teams

[k0kakw0rld]

If you think people love Ja like they love Luka, you are insane. lol.

He's not even particularly good at basketball aside from carrying the shit out of the ball which he is spectacular at. #1 in NBA history by a country mile.

In fact I challenge anyone to show me a player that consistently carried or carries in a more egregious way than Ja Morant. The guy is a breath away from tucking it under his arm and running.
So, we are really going to act like Wardell Curry doesn't carry the ball more than the rest of the league? Let me laugh please

[Wardell Curry]

So, we are really going to act like Wardell Curry doesn't carry the ball more than the rest of the league? Let me laugh please

Curry carries but nobody carries like Ja. Watch the games.

[Mask the Embiid]

deal

[Im Still Ballin]

Giddey would make Memphis better like how Kidd made New Jersey better.

[MrFonzworth]

So, we are really going to act like Wardell Curry doesn't carry the ball more than the rest of the league? Let me laugh please

:facepalm

[Meticode]

So, we are really going to act like Wardell Curry doesn't carry the ball more than the rest of the league? Let me laugh please

Can you please show us where he carries the ball more than the rest of the league? Can you show me the league average and Stephen Curry's average? Thanks.

[BarberSchool]

Philly isn't doing that.
Try and tell that to the average idiot fan.

And they won’t believe you.

But it’s 100% true. Philly would laugh at it.

[ImKobe]

I don't watch a ton of Philly games but from what I've seen Maxey is the better player so Philly would be stupid to trade him right now.

[GOBB]

I don't watch a ton of Philly games but from what I've seen Maxey is the better player so Philly would be stupid to trade him right now.

Yeah you clearly don’t watch a ton of Philly fans to think Maxey is a better player than Ja Morant. Ja actually has carried a franchise as the main attraction. Tyrese has yet to prove he can. He just might be a complimentary player next to a franchise player. Which isn’t bad but as a guy who leads your franchise to wins? To glory? Remains to be seen. And this season with Embiid and George out. And George battling to come back. Maxey has free rein as the guy. It was telling.


And no I wouldn’t trade Maxey for Morant. While Morant has Iverson like impact in the palms of his hands. It’s a big risk he screws that all up. Sixers can’t afford to add a Morant when you have an Embiid in the fold.

[Neal Romer]

Yeah you clearly don’t watch a ton of Philly fans to think Maxey is a better player than Ja Morant. Ja actually has carried a franchise as the main attraction. Tyrese has yet to prove he can. He just might be a complimentary player next to a franchise player. Which isn’t bad but as a guy who leads your franchise to wins? To glory? Remains to be seen. And this season with Embiid and George out. And George battling to come back. Maxey has free rein as the guy. It was telling.


And no I wouldn’t trade Maxey for Morant. While Morant has Iverson like impact in the palms of his hands. It’s a big risk he screws that all up. Sixers can’t afford to add a Morant when you have an Embiid in the fold.


Carried them to what? Hes missed significant regular season time in multiple seasons, and they have higher win percentages when hes out.

Hes played in, what, 3 or 4 playoff series? Has he won any of them? If he has I cant recall. I know he lost to Bron's Lakers and he's gonna lose this year. I think he lost to the Suns in Rd 1 a few years ago?

What has he carried them to in the regular or post season?

It's an honest question. Im not saying he sucks, but I dont see the evidence hes "carrying" the Grizzlies, unless you just mean he takes the most shots and sells the most jerseys.

[Wardell Curry]

Im not saying he sucks, but I dont see the evidence hes "carrying" the Grizzlies, unless you just mean he takes the most shots and sells the most jerseys.

But I am.

:roll:

[ImKobe]

Yeah you clearly don’t watch a ton of Philly fans to think Maxey is a better player than Ja Morant. Ja actually has carried a franchise as the main attraction. Tyrese has yet to prove he can. He just might be a complimentary player next to a franchise player. Which isn’t bad but as a guy who leads your franchise to wins? To glory? Remains to be seen. And this season with Embiid and George out. And George battling to come back. Maxey has free rein as the guy. It was telling.


And no I wouldn’t trade Maxey for Morant. While Morant has Iverson like impact in the palms of his hands. It’s a big risk he screws that all up. Sixers can’t afford to add a Morant when you have an Embiid in the fold.

What glory? Grizzlies were 20 - 5 without Ja the year they won 56 games. They went 18 - 16 without him this season so with all the games Ja missed and despite his mediocre season they still were good enough to get into the Playoffs. Grizzlies have built solid teams around him he's just not able to take them to the next level.

Ja's a more entertaining player sure and resonates more with the kids but he hasn't shown any growth since his 3rd year in the league. Sixers were complete ass this season and Maxey carried them for about 2 months there from mid-December to ASB trying to keep them afloat while averaging 30 a game. They went 4 - 26 without him. Ja is a highlight machine and a great athlete but hasn't improved his shot since he came into the league and is likely going to end up like D.Rose with his knees giving out with the way he attacks the basket in traffic.

[GOBB]

What glory? Grizzlies were 20 - 5 without Ja the year they won 56 games. They went 18 - 16 without him this season so with all the games Ja missed and despite his mediocre season they still were good enough to get into the Playoffs. Grizzlies have built solid teams around him he's just not able to take them to the next level.

Ja's a more entertaining player sure and resonates more with the kids but he hasn't shown any growth since his 3rd year in the league. Sixers were complete ass this season and Maxey carried them for about 2 months there from mid-December to ASB trying to keep them afloat while averaging 30 a game. They went 4 - 26 without him. Ja is a highlight machine and a great athlete but hasn't improved his shot since he came into the league and is likely going to end up like D.Rose with his knees giving out with the way he attacks the basket in traffic.

Ja has taken the Grizzlies to 3 postseasons. Maxey hasn’t proven he can carry a franchise as the main attraction. You assume he can. Ja has. Folks don’t like Ja. I get it. It’s the trendy thing to do for some. While others have their reason.

[Neal Romer]

Ja has taken the Grizzlies to 3 postseasons. Maxey hasn’t proven he can carry a franchise as the main attraction. You assume he can. Ja has. Folks don’t like Ja. I get it. It’s the trendy thing to do for some. While others have their reason.

Ja took them?

Not Desmond Bane or JJJ? Only Ja?

Was it his great leadership that carried them? His defense? His durability?

Or just cuz he scores the most points when he plays? Cuz they get the same results whether he scores 30 or sits out with an injury.

I dont see how youre concluding Ja is the critical component to their success. That narrative doesnt hold up to scrutiny IMO.

[GOBB]

Ja took them?

Not Desmond Bane or JJJ? Only Ja?

Was it his great leadership that carried them? His defense? His durability?

Or just cuz he scores the most points when he plays? Cuz they get the same results whether he scores 30 or sits out with an injury.

I dont see how youre concluding Ja is the critical component to their success. That narrative doesnt hold up to scrutiny IMO.

Those two are glue guys for me. It’s more than just scoring for Ja. It’s the attention he draws.

[ImKobe]

Ja has taken the Grizzlies to 3 postseasons. Maxey hasn’t proven he can carry a franchise as the main attraction. You assume he can. Ja has. Folks don’t like Ja. I get it. It’s the trendy thing to do for some. While others have their reason.

And where is that taking Memphis? 1 Playoff series win in 4 years? Your best/most memorable Playoff win coming without Ja (the WHOOP DAT TRICK game against GS)? 20 - 5 without Ja in your most successful season? 18 - 14 without him this year? You having your worst stretch of the season with Ja returning from injury which led to the firing of your HC?

Grizzlies were 34 - 9 vs. below .500 teams this year and just flat out horrible vs. teams .500 or above. That kind of says everything about Ja and the team in general. Insanely talented but they're just missing that last 10% when it comes to decision making and leadership. One of the best supporting casts in the league and nothing to show for it.

[GOBB]

And where is that taking Memphis? 1 Playoff series win in 4 years? Your best/most memorable Playoff win coming without Ja (the WHOOP DAT TRICK game against GS)? 20 - 5 without Ja in your most successful season? 18 - 14 without him this year? You having your worst stretch of the season with Ja returning from injury which led to the firing of your HC?

Grizzlies were 34 - 9 vs. below .500 teams this year and just flat out horrible vs. teams .500 or above. That kind of says everything about Ja and the team in general. Insanely talented but they're just missing that last 10% when it comes to decision making and leadership. One of the best supporting casts in the league and nothing to show for it.

Valid points

[Axe]

What glory? Grizzlies were 20 - 5 without Ja the year they won 56 games. They went 18 - 16 without him this season so with all the games Ja missed and despite his mediocre season they still were good enough to get into the Playoffs. Grizzlies have built solid teams around him he's just not able to take them to the next level.

Ja's a more entertaining player sure and resonates more with the kids but he hasn't shown any growth since his 3rd year in the league. Sixers were complete ass this season and Maxey carried them for about 2 months there from mid-December to ASB trying to keep them afloat while averaging 30 a game. They went 4 - 26 without him. Ja is a highlight machine and a great athlete but hasn't improved his shot since he came into the league and is likely going to end up like D.Rose with his knees giving out with the way he attacks the basket in traffic.
True. Anyone clueless who said that morant should have been the league mvp way back in '22 despite what his 20-5 team record suggested without him should eat turds for the whole day. He doesn't deserve shit.