Haliburton Voted Most Overrated by His Peers

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[04mzwach]

Julius Randle overrated? All people do is bash him mostly. Butler has been underrated most of his career so I don't think he can be overrated to be fair. Draymond Green doesn't get praised nonstop either. He gets opportunities and takes advantage of them but I don't see fans adoring Draymond.

[Proctor]

Top 3 are what we all expected

[Meticode]

Julius Randle overrated? All people do is bash him mostly. Butler has been underrated most of his career so I don't think he can be overrated to be fair. Draymond Green doesn't get praised nonstop either. He gets opportunities and takes advantage of them but I don't see fans adoring Draymond.

Some players are just going to vote because they dislike someone versus it being true or correct.

I expected Draymond to be higher.

[FKAri]

Can't quit me!

[Wardell Curry]

Bradley Beal, Ja Morant, Rudy Gobert, Kyle Kuzma... :roll:

Who the **** thinks Jrue Holiday is overrated? Dude never won a defensive player of the year award despite being arguably the best perimeter defender at one point and is credited as being the third to fifth best player on his current team depending on who you ask.

How is that overrated?

[rawimpact]

surprised to see anyone above rudy. Second biggest surprise is 2.2% for no one in the league is overrated lol

who conducted these polls? I want to see the other questions/answers lol

nothing like bringing some drama to a overly PC league

[SouBeachTalents]

That's embarrassing when you're getting more votes than the human pinata in Rudy for this category.

Some of these selections make no sense to me, who the hell is overrating Kyle Kuzma & Dillon Brooks :lol Also surprised to see Jrue getting votes.

[Meticode]

That's embarrassing when you're getting more votes than the human pinata in Rudy for this category.

Some of these selections make no sense to me, who the hell is overrating Kyle Kuzma & Dillon Brooks :lol Also surprised to see Jrue getting votes.

Like I said, some players are just going to vote because they dislike someone.

[Meticode]

who conducted these polls? I want to see the other questions/answers lol

The Athletic

https://x.com/TheAthletic/status/1914650543001362681?t=P5T2LfIk3_--jzXSXKxs3w&s=19

[3ba11]

Julius Randle overrated? All people do is bash him mostly. Butler has been underrated most of his career so I don't think he can be overrated to be fair. Draymond Green doesn't get praised nonstop either. He gets opportunities and takes advantage of them but I don't see fans adoring Draymond.


Dray will be a HOF'er but know one would know who he was if he didn't play in Curry's dynasty system.. His 11/7/5 isn't anything special when it's contributing to a 20-win Wizards team or something, but it's HOF if it can land next to a generational offensive talent... Without Curry, Dray would be like Harvey Grant.

[Meticode]

Dray will be a HOF'er but know one would know who he was if he didn't play in Curry's dynasty system.. He would be like Harvey Grant

It bothers the hell out of me that triple-single could get into the HoF. I don't think he deserves it.

[John8204]

Bradley Beal, Ja Morant, Rudy Gobert, Kyle Kuzma... :roll:

Who the **** thinks Jrue Holiday is overrated? Dude never won a defensive player of the year award despite being arguably the best perimeter defender at one point and is credited as being the third to fifth best player on his current team depending on who you ask.

How is that overrated?

You'd think the guy wasn't a four time champion...frankly he's just a good teammate to take the Celtics hate because their is no reason why Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Kristaps Porzingus aren't on this list.

Also Herro and Butler on but not Bam...

Beal taking all the blame for Durant and yet Giannis and Lebron both got votes.

Playoff Pete being behind Joel Embiid...jesus mary and joseph

[fourkicks44]

That's embarrassing when you're getting more votes than the human pinata in Rudy for this category.

Some of these selections make no sense to me, who the hell is overrating Kyle Kuzma & Dillon Brooks :lol Also surprised to see Jrue getting votes.

I think we all know it was Lebron that voted for Dillon Brooks

[bdonovan]

I wonder how much of this is people just don't like some of these guys - we saw guys like Lillard get into arguments with Halliburton. Butler, Beal, and Draymond aren't exactly the most likable guys.

Maybe people think Klay Thompson is overrated but he's such a nice guy, he'll never make the list.

Gobert #2 is just Donovan Mitchell voting dozens of times :)

[GOBB]

Julius Randle overrated? All people do is bash him mostly. Butler has been underrated most of his career so I don't think he can be overrated to be fair. Draymond Green doesn't get praised nonstop either. He gets opportunities and takes advantage of them but I don't see fans adoring Draymond.

I think you’re going by fans ratings on players and thinking the actual players judge their list based on that. I think it has more to do with not liking their game/feeling they are that good. While some comes from a place of dislike. Maybe a mix of both. With fans at least you have some context to why they rank/rate players like they do. With players they don’t speak on other guys as much as we do (hence this msgbosrd).

[ArbitraryWater]

Bradley Beal, Ja Morant, Rudy Gobert, Kyle Kuzma... :roll:

Who the **** thinks Jrue Holiday is overrated? Dude never won a defensive player of the year award despite being arguably the best perimeter defender at one point and is credited as being the third to fifth best player on his current team depending on who you ask.

How is that overrated?

This isnt about awards, but the rep a player has accumulated.

Holiday by many is seen as a very underrated, extremely good / all star level kind of guard, that any championship team would love to have.
Its possible some players disagree with that notion.

But yes its true its weird for a player that isnt revered or talked much about.

[ArbitraryWater]

That's embarrassing when you're getting more votes than the human pinata in Rudy for this category.

Some of these selections make no sense to me, who the hell is overrating Kyle Kuzma & Dillon Brooks :lol Also surprised to see Jrue getting votes.


Probably some blacks just struggling with the concept of the word tbh.

being formerly hyped doesnt mean one is now overrated when everyone is aware youre trash.

[ArbitraryWater]

Very surprised to not see Toody at 1 tbf.

Haliburton has such a non chalant, non physical style.. dude just kind of walks up, shoots some 3s, makes some kick out passes...

I can see why some players are annoyed at how good he is/seems.

[tpols]

For being so overrated he's been dog walking the Bucks.

I expect that to end in G3 on the road and smash the moneyline but he balled in G2 with Dame back. Dame acts tough but doesn't play defense. And it mayhave been an anomaly but Haliburton was playing defense. I watched him individually force multiple turnovers and shots in the last game.

[Meticode]

For being so overrated he's been dog walking the Bucks.

I expect that to end in G3 on the road and smash the moneyline but he balled in G2 with Dame back. Dame acts tough but doesn't play defense. And it mayhave been an anomaly but Haliburton was playing defense. I watched him individually force multiple turnovers and shots in the last game.

I think it's mostly because players don't like Haliburton because he only talks shit when he's front running. You might as well change the title of the poll to "Who do you dislike the most?"

[Norcaliblunt]

Remember when the players voted that Harden should have been the MVP in 2015 over Curry?

These polls shouldn’t even exist.

That’s the NBA’s problem. Trying to bank on these stupid little narratives instead of real basketball. It’s a gossip show league.

[Meticode]

Remember when the players voted that Harden should have been the MVP in 2015 over Curry?

No I don't. Do you have a link? I couldn't find it.

[ArbitraryWater]

No I don't. Do you have a link? I couldn't find it.

Are you serious?

Its the first thing that pops up when you google player vote 2015 curry harden, several links

[Meticode]

Are you serious?

Its the first thing that pops up when you google player vote 2015 curry harden, several links

Yes I was, I was Googling, "2015 Players MVP Vote" which now I see was several links down.

Thanks.

[ArbitraryWater]

Yes I was, I was Googling, "2015 Players MVP Vote" which now I see was several links down.

Thanks.


Bro how tf is Google supposed to know youre talking about the NBA. That could be absolutely anything. :oldlol:

[Meticode]

It knows by your search habits. I search NBA more than anything. When I type that in Google all that comes back is NBA stuff and also that players voting lower down.

[ArbitraryWater]

It knows by your search habits. I search NBA more than anything. When I type that in Google all that comes back is NBA stuff and also that players voting lower down.

Yea but its not automatically showing NBA when the search is too unspecific, you should have at least tried it with NBA :lol

[Wally450]

Stupid vote. They should vote on who's most likely to come out as gay next.

[Meticode]

Yea but its not automatically showing NBA when the search is too unspecific, you should have at least tried it with NBA :lol

Honestly, I should've just looked further down, the players voting article on ESPN was the 5th link with my vague search input. I just didn't skim far enough.

[ArbitraryWater]

Stupid vote. They should vote on who's most likely to come out as gay next.

:oldlol:
true though

[MrFonzworth]

Players understand that TJ McConnell is a much bigger headache to deal with. On a competent team his role and Haliburtons are swapped.

[Full Court]

The most overrated players in the current NBA are Trae Young, Lavine, and Lebron.

[Axe]

Stupid vote. They should vote on who's most likely to come out as gay next.
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[Full Court]

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Oooooooooooooo, stinky boy is upset again. :roll:



Not only does Axe

Smell like a stinky rectum

But he's also very high

On the autism spectrum



So true!

[j3lademaster]

What makes Trae overrated? He wouldn’t even have made the all star team if it wasn’t for an injury and, correct me if I’m wrong, received no all nba votes despite putting up 24 ppg, leading the league in assists and played 76 games. Yeah, I know he’s inefficient and is bad on defense, but guards seem to get a pass on defense these days if they’re dynamic on offense and the inefficiency just means we can’t put him on a all NBA level… which we don’t.

[Meticode]

What makes Trae overrated? He wouldn’t even have made the all star team if it wasn’t for an injury and, correct me if I’m wrong, received no all nba votes despite putting up 24 ppg, leading the league in assists and played 76 games. Yeah, I know he’s inefficient and is bad on defense, but guards seem to get a pass on defense these days if they’re dynamic on offense and the inefficiency just means we can’t put him on a all NBA level… which we don’t.

Most people feel that way probably because he's a sieve on defense and highly inefficient because he tends to be a chucker.

[j3lademaster]

Most people feel that way probably because he's a sieve on defense and highly inefficient because he tends to be a chucker.

Oh, I agree. I have to admit I don’t watch a ton of Trae Young, but I’ve seen him put up stinkers and I’ve seen him play clutch basketball. Over-dribbling, chucking(especially when he does it when his team is on a run while he’s cold) and his lack of defense(which can be a criticism for virtually any sub 6’3 star) are completely fair criticisms. My contention is: is that enough to make him ‘overrated’ in the context of a borderline all-star?

[imdaman99]

Stupid vote. They should vote on who's most likely to come out as gay next.

It's gotta be that Philly rookie

[Meticode]

Oh, I agree. I have to admit I don’t watch a ton of Trae Young, but I’ve seen him put up stinkers and I’ve seen him play clutch basketball. Over-dribbling, chucking(especially when he does it when his team is on a run while he’s cold) and his lack of defense(which can be a criticism for virtually any sub 6’3 star) are completely fair criticisms. My contention is: is that enough to make him ‘overrated’ in the context of a borderline all-star?
Probably not, I think most if not many of the votes are just personal hate for a player that okay against.

[Axe]

What makes Trae overrated?
I'm guessing that it's simply due to some minority who thought that he's initially better than luka as a player. (https://i.ibb.co/JmpGnKz/IMG-20230528-095117.jpg)

[rawimpact]

He's the face of the Hawks despite terrible numbers. For someone known as a 3pt shooter, 34% is 90s numbers from the 3pt line. In fact, he ranks 144 out of 174 players in the league.

He is not a first option or even a second option on any winning team.

[Meticode]

He's the face of the Hawks despite terrible numbers. For someone known as a 3pt shooter, 34% is 90s numbers from the 3pt line. In fact, he ranks 144 out of 174 players in the league.

He is not a first option or even a second option on any winning team.

It's because ESPN puts up highlights every once in a while of him hitting a crazy logo shot or a deep three for the win and showing flashes of Chef Curry in those instances, but the reality is he's a very average long distance shooter in terms of how often he makes shots compared to someone like a Curry or even just a 40% three point shooter would would be considered close to elite in today's NBA.

Doncic is similar in that respect, but not as bad. At least he hits it between a 36-38% clip usually, but it helps that he's like 6'8". And he'll hit difficult threes. I think a big reason Trae is inefficient is because he's sub 6'0" and can't easily just shoot over defenders.

[Jasper]

haliburton does not have a jump shot as we think he has ...

He shoots from his right shoulder , not above his head..

Easy to guard in my opinion ..
Guard him tight , he will never see 10 points a game , and his dimes would be cut in half...

He finds spacing , and he has a green light from his coach ... that is all.

[Meticode]

haliburton does not have a jump shot as we think he has ...

He shoots from his right shoulder , not above his head..

Easy to guard in my opinion ..
Guard him tight , he will never see 10 points a game , and his dimes would be cut in half...

He finds spacing , and he has a green light from his coach ... that is all.
You should be a NBA coach. You just made Haliburton into a 9 PPG, 5 RPG, 4 APG player. from that marvelous observation. If only you could get onto a team's coaching staff to shut down and limit players like Haliburton.

[marLeY baLL]

https://www.npr.org/2003/12/22/1559574/examining-halliburtons-sweetheart-deal-in-iraq

[brownmamba00]

Haliburton is underrated if anything. The game aint the same. No one likes true point guards anymore. Dude is 6'6 basically almost a point foward.

Put Hali on the Suns with Booker and KD see what happens.

[L.Kizzle]

Welp ...

[L.Kizzle]

Mr Overrated is at it again.

[Wally450]

Overrated my ass.

[tpols]

Looks like Urkel shut everybody the **** up.

[tpols]

haliburton does not have a jump shot as we think he has ...

He shoots from his right shoulder , not above his head..

Easy to guard in my opinion ..
Guard him tight , he will never see 10 points a game , and his dimes would be cut in half...

He finds spacing , and he has a green light from his coach ... that is all.

For not having a jumpshot it sure seems to go in when it matters.

[tontoz]

For his career Hali shoots 39% from 3 on almost 7 attempts per game so it goes in pretty regularly.

[L.Kizzle]

Mr Overrated continues his revenge tour.

[Axe]

Players understand that TJ McConnell is a much bigger headache to deal with. On a competent team his role and Haliburtons are swapped.
Indy is becoming competent now, with hali leading the way. (https://i.ibb.co/SxWM8PC/IMG-20230805-073843.jpg)

The braindead retard who posted below you is an obsessed psychopath too lmao.

[FKAri]

He had a great start last year. Everyone was probably hearing about it. Then he went down with the hammy and when he came he was terrible. Everyone he faced after that probably developed a lot of "this ***** ain't shit" energy.

[Wardell Curry]

He had a great start last year. Everyone was probably hearing about it. Then he went down with the hammy and when he came he was terrible. Everyone he faced after that probably developed a lot of "this ***** ain't shit" energy.

Players aren't good at evaluating talent and this is one of the reasons why the overwhelming majority of them make absolute shit GMs.

It's why the "player X said soandso" argument is the intellectually laziest argument anyone could make. No, just because Michael Jordan has an opinion about a basketball player in the context of 5 on 5 doesn't mean it's accurate or even necessarily close to being so.

Look at LeBron. Also total shit at talent evaluation prior to the pros. How many bum ass prospects has he wanted his teams to get over the years that didn't pan out? Please.

[SouBeachTalents]

Hali continuing to make the haters look like fools

[plowking]

Hali continuing to make the haters look like fools

Literally became one of my fav players with that throwback celebration.

[Im Still Ballin]

For his career Hali shoots 39% from 3 on almost 7 attempts per game so it goes in pretty regularly.

He doesn't shy away from taking heaves, too. 1/34 in his career. 39.8% 3PT career average when adjusted.

[Im Still Ballin]

For his career Hali shoots 39% from 3 on almost 7 attempts per game so it goes in pretty regularly.

He doesn't shy away from taking heaves, too. 1/34 in his career. 39.8% 3PT career average when adjusted.

[04mzwach]

it never made much sense to say hali is overrated anyway. who hyped him up? i dont remember it or i missed it.

[Hey Yo]

Hali continuing to make the haters look like fools

He got a lucky bounce.... shit happens

[John8204]

Mr Overrated continues his revenge tour.

Might see #1 and #2 in the finals...means the NBA players are almost as dumb as the media voters.

[SouBeachTalents]

He got a lucky bounce.... shit happens
Yeah, cause he hasn't done anything in these playoffs outside of that one shot.

[Hey Yo]

Yeah, cause he hasn't done anything in these playoffs outside of that one shot.

I don't think making a few big shots this postseason is going to make "a hater" change their mind about thinking his game is overrated.

[tpols]

Yeah, cause he hasn't done anything in these playoffs outside of that one shot.

It is pretty funny how the difference between him throwing the choke sign and choking himself was the ball bouncing off back rim straight up in the air like 30 feet and coming back down a swish. That was some pretty ****ing extreme luck. :lol

Unfortunately I feel like his magic will run out vs the Thunders swarming perimeter defense. Can't keep getting lucky with these ridiculously improbable comebacks every time.

[Hey Yo]

Without Nesmith going unconscious from 3 in the last 5min.... there is no Halliburton shot to tie it up

[SouBeachTalents]

I don't think making a few big shots this postseason is going to make "a hater" change their mind about thinking his game is overrated.
Bro, you choose some very strange hills to die on sometimes :lol If you don't think leading multiple insane comebacks while hitting several clutch shots and potentially leading your team to the Finals matters, we agree to disagree on that one.

[tontoz]

Yeah, cause he hasn't done anything in these playoffs outside of that one shot.

He's leading the playoffs in assists while averaging 19 ppg with a 60% TS. He's leading his team past favored opponents but some people are just too low IQ to get it.

[999Guy]

[Uthayakumar] Tyrese Haliburton is 5-for-6 (83.3%) when taking a shot to tie or take the lead in the final 90 seconds of the 4th or OT this playoffs. That’s tied for the most such shots in a single postseason since 1997.
We’re not talking one shot here.

[1987_Lakers]

He had an off regular season, but Haliburton shouldn't have been voted most overrated and I'm not even a big fan of that dude.

Easily should have gone to Trae Young or Morant. These are actually big name players who are nowhere near as good as some fans hype them up to be. Morant wasn't even the best player on his team this year.

[Hey Yo]

Bro, you choose some very strange hills to die on sometimes :lol If you don't think leading multiple insane comebacks while hitting several clutch shots and potentially leading your team to the Finals matters, we agree to disagree on that one.

I never claimed he was overrated so I'm not on any hill begin with. Im just bitter he got a lucky bounce, that's all.

[Baller234]

This is an all time revenge tour I have to say. This "most overrated" thing could end up going down in history if the pacers win it all.

I'm from NY and last night was a heartbreaker but can't deny the guy is big time.

[ImKobe]

It is pretty funny how the difference between him throwing the choke sign and choking himself was the ball bouncing off back rim straight up in the air like 30 feet and coming back down a swish. That was some pretty ****ing extreme luck. :lol

Unfortunately I feel like his magic will run out vs the Thunders swarming perimeter defense. Can't keep getting lucky with these ridiculously improbable comebacks every time.

I don't think he'll even get that chance. Knicks are the better team.

[L.Kizzle]

This is an all time revenge tour I have to say. This "most overrated" thing could end up going down in history if the pacers win it all.

I'm from NY and last night was a heartbreaker but can't deny the guy is big time.
You can't write a better script.
Had the most DNPs on 2024 Team USA.
Did not make the All-Star Team (and probably won't be All-NBA)
Voted most overrated by his PEERS.

[marLeY baLL]

https://youtu.be/wQzQ-fXbsIw

[FKAri]

Players aren't good at evaluating talent and this is one of the reasons why the overwhelming majority of them make absolute shit GMs.

It's why the "player X said soandso" argument is the intellectually laziest argument anyone could make. No, just because Michael Jordan has an opinion about a basketball player in the context of 5 on 5 doesn't mean it's accurate or even necessarily close to being so.

Look at LeBron. Also total shit at talent evaluation prior to the pros. How many bum ass prospects has he wanted his teams to get over the years that didn't pan out? Please.

But I don't think that's what happened here. Hali's huge fall off was why him getting this label was perfectly understandable. Of course players don't care about how or why that fall off happened.


it never made much sense to say hali is overrated anyway. who hyped him up? i dont remember it or i missed it.

2024 season. See my last post.

[brownmamba00]

Haliburton is underrated if anything. The game aint the same. No one likes true point guards anymore. Dude is 6'6 basically almost a point foward.

Put Hali on the Suns with Booker and KD see what happens.

I told yall bum mfers stop smoking that rock

[SouBeachTalents]

Just another game winner tonight

[L.Kizzle]

Every series like clockwork.

[Wally450]

I have a feeling he won't be voted most overrated next year. Maybe those votes will go to Embiid.

[Wardell Curry]

"Why should I trust your opinion over a player's? They actually played the game. You think you know better than Magic Johnson?!? You're an idiot! These people did this for a living at the highest level!"

[ImKobe]

Already has more game-tying/go-ahead shots in the last 24 seconds of a game in the Finals than Lebron. 1 game vs 10 Finals.

[Phoenix]

Win or lose the finals,he's made complete asses out of whoever voted this.

[SouBeachTalents]

Already has more game-tying/go-ahead shots in the last 24 seconds of a game in the Finals than Lebron. 1 game vs 10 Finals.
Not sure that's the argument you wanna make against LeBron

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Btw Kobe's only shot came in '04 where he proceeded to have one of the worst Finals of all time.

[Full Court]

You'd have to be Axe-levels of retarded to still think Haliburton's overrated.

:lol

[John8204]

I think it would be better if the 77 players that didn't vote for Haliburton would come forward.

[tpols]

The players probably voted against him because hes kind of a nerdy light skin brother. Wasn't gangster enough.

Hahaha... little did they know they literally lit a fire under his ass. People treated Dirk similarly. Disregarded everything out dueling KG and Duncan prime for prime in the playoffs and then still boiling his career down to 2007 upset.

And then what happened?

2011.

[tpols]

Not sure that's the argument you wanna make against LeBron

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Btw Kobe's only shot came in '04 where he proceeded to have one of the worst Finals of all time.

Lebrons game winners were a joke compared to these guys. He hit those against derozan raptors and oladipo pacers I'm guessing. :lol

Joke.

Haliburton is hitting these against juggernauts as a big underdog over and over.

Cmon man... don't even attempt to equate Indys current clutchness to Lebron unless you bring up Ray Allen and Kyrie Irvings names.

[Meticode]

Players thinking he's overrated was just because of the way he runs his mouth. Players take offense to it.

If anything when this poll came out it gave him fuel for the fire and obviously it's paid off in these playoffs. Kudos to him for finding something that pissed you off enough to want to shut people up.

[ImKobe]

Lebrons game winners were a joke compared to these guys. He hit those against derozan raptors and oladipo pacers I'm guessing. :lol

Joke.

Haliburton is hitting these against juggernauts as a big underdog over and over.

Cmon man... don't even attempt to equate Indys current clutchness to Lebron unless you bring up Ray Allen and Kyrie Irvings names.

Yeah I don't recall many big ones. He hit one on orlando in '09, a series he choked in. Kobe's overall clutch stats (efficiency, ast-to ratio) are better than Lebron's in the Playoffs, and that's before all the no shows from Lebron over the last 3 years.

[Meticode]

Yeah I don't recall many big ones. He hit one on orlando in '09, a series he choked in.

Choking is averaging 38.5 PPG / 8.3 RPG / 8.0 APG / 1.2 SPG / 1.2 BPG on nearly 49% shooting from the field?

I'm going to disagree with you on that. The rest of the team didn't show up to play and Orlando dominated on those mismatches and stretching the floor. If there's ever been a choke series for him it was against Dallas in 2011.

[ImKobe]

Choking is averaging 38.5 PPG / 8.3 RPG / 8.0 APG / 1.2 SPG / 1.2 BPG on nearly 49% shooting from the field?

I'm going to disagree with you on that. The rest of the team didn't show up to play and Orlando dominated on those mismatches and stretching the floor. If there's ever been a choke series for him it was against Dallas in 2011.

You can play well and then shit the bed when it matters the rest of the series. Hot start and got worse as it went on.

[Meticode]

You can play well and then shit the bed when it matters the rest of the series. Hot start and got worse as it went on.

If scoring over 40 three times, and at least 25 in every game is shitting the bed in guess Kobe had series where he diarrhea'd all over the bed then.

I guess that's not enough though. LeBron has to score over 40 every game for it not to be a choke to you.

Crazy hater talk.

I don't deny he's choked in some series, but this one was a horrible example.

[90sgoat]

Players thinking he's overrated was just because of the way he runs his mouth. Players take offense to it.

If anything when this poll came out it gave him fuel for the fire and obviously it's paid off in these playoffs. Kudos to him for finding something that pissed you off enough to want to shut people up.

Players are dumb as rocks and he's also lightskin so that factors in to it.

[Phoenix]

Players are dumb as rocks and he's also lightskin so that factors in to it.

Do you need attention at home?

[GOBB]

The players probably voted against him because hes kind of a nerdy light skin brother. Wasn't gangsta enough.

Why do you and some others here type this nonsense? You just pass off how you see Haliburton as how others do. Weird. When in reality nothing what you said and the other idiot that recently just posted is why he is voted most overrated. Yall got to stop creating these cop like narratives in your heads.

[Manny98]

Haliburton represents everything I like in a player

Doesn't flop or foul bait, has high basketball IQ, plays an unselfish team oriented brand of basketball and is an absolute killer in big games,

It's actually quite scary how clutch he is

Most overrated is Rudy Gobert and it's not close, he gets paid superstar money but gives you role player production and at times is a complete liability on both ends of the floor come playoff time

I have been saying this for 5 years and he proves me right every year in the playoffs

[Xiao Yao You]

Haliburton represents everything I like in a player

Doesn't flop or foul bait, has high basketball IQ, plays an unselfish team oriented brand of basketball and is an absolute killer in big games,

It's actually quite scary how clutch he is

Most overrated is Rudy Gobert and it's not close, he gets paid superstar money but gives you role player production and at times is a complete liability on both ends of the floor come playoff time

I have been saying this for 5 years and he proves me right every year in the playoffs

Superstars make max and arent underpaid their whole careers. Role players dont carry bad teams. A liability that lef his team in ortg and drtg not to mention countless other stats. Poor manny woti :facepalm

[tpols]

Why do you and some others here type this nonsense? You just pass off how you see Haliburton as how others do. Weird. When in reality nothing what you said and the other idiot that recently just posted is why he is voted most overrated. Yall got to stop creating these cop like narratives in your heads.

White people aren't all cops bro. I probably dislike the po-leece more than you ya goofy goober. :lol

And yea that is the sentiment. Dude sounds kinda nerdy. Reggie sounded kinda nerdy too. Didn't matter. Theyre wolves in sheep clothing. :pimp:

[ShawkFactory]

Superstars make max and arent underpaid their whole careers. Role players dont carry bad teams. A liability that lef his team in ortg and drtg not to mention countless other stats. Poor manny woti :facepalm

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

[Baller234]

He's the perfect QB to have in this new era of play. He's GREAT at creating space, both for himself and others.

[GOBB]

White people aren't all cops bro. I probably dislike the po-leece more than you ya goofy goober. :lol

And yea that is the sentiment. Dude sounds kinda nerdy. Reggie sounded kinda nerdy too. Didn't matter. Theyre wolves in sheep clothing. :pimp:

Never said all cops were white. That’s you throwing shyt against the wall again. Point is you have a perception of Haliburton and think it’s what the general consensus seems to think. You’re wrong. I don’t know why you just don’t speak for yourself instead of others? The fact you mentioned Reggie Miller sharing similar characteristics only he’s never been labeled overrated just poops on your stupid theory to why Haliburton was rated most overrated.

But yeah man he’s not gangsta enough. That’s what’s popular in the league. Tattoos, weed, baggy clothing, “nahmean”. Smh

[tpols]

Never said all cops were white. That’s you throwing shyt against the wall again. Point is you have a perception of Haliburton and think it’s what the general consensus seems to think. You’re wrong. I don’t know why you just don’t speak for yourself instead of others? The fact you mentioned Reggie Miller sharing similar characteristics only he’s never been labeled overrated just poops on your stupid theory to why Haliburton was rated most overrated.

But yeah man he’s not gangsta enough. That’s what’s popular in the league. Tattoos, weed, baggy clothing, “nahmean”. Smh

Reggie actually was considered overrated. Just ask Kblaze hes written books on it.

[GOBB]

Reggie actually was considered overrated. Just ask Kblaze hes written books on it.

Ok there’s people out there who feel Reggie Miller is overrated. It’s not based on how corny he is. His voice sounding funny. He’s not good enough. Blah blah blah

[warriorfan]

Why do you and some others here type this nonsense? You just pass off how you see Haliburton as how others do. Weird. When in reality nothing what you said and the other idiot that recently just posted is why he is voted most overrated. Yall got to stop creating these cop like narratives in your heads.

Too bad you didn’t keep this energy when you were having your Shadeur Sanders meltdown :lol

[tpols]

Ok there’s people out there who feel Reggie Miller is overrated. It’s not based on how corny he is. His voice sounding funny. He’s not good enough. Blah blah blah

It is somewhat based on how corny he is. When Steve Urkel is talking shit in a nasally voice at you and lighting yo ass up simultaneously, thats infuriating. Just ask your boy John Starks.

[GOBB]

Too bad you didn’t keep this energy when you were having your Shadeur Sanders meltdown :lol

What meltdown was that? You dudes got to stop making up stuff here lol

[warriorfan]

What meltdown was that? You dudes got to stop making up stuff here lol

You had a weird meltdown about how everyone was hating on Sanders.

[GOBB]

You had a weird meltdown about how everyone was hating on Sanders.

Saying he shouldn’t have gone rd 5 = weird meltdown? A player who was mocked as a first rd QB. Some having him top of the draft. And yet going rd 5 (he was a 2nd rd grade QB to me) = weird meltdown? Ok. Maybe I never knew what weird meltdown meant. Good job enlightening me on it. Thanks

[warriorfan]

Saying he shouldn’t have gone rd 5 = weird meltdown? A player who was mocked as a first rd QB. Some having him top of the draft. And yet going rd 5 (he was a 2nd rd grade QB to me) = weird meltdown? Ok. Maybe I never knew what weird meltdown meant. Good job enlightening me on it. Thanks

Well the fact you are being so disingenuous and avoidant mean you obviously feel silly about it now. :lol

[GOBB]

Well the fact you are being so disingenuous and avoidant mean you obviously feel silly about it now. :lol

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?520955-2025-NFL-Draft-(April-24th)


Show me the meltdown. Another poster here falsely claimed I called the NFL racist for not drafting Sanders. I sent him this link asking him to show me where. He has yet to address it. Pride won’t allow it. So now it’s your turn. Show me where the weird meltdown was. Or you can do what he did and STFU? You can’t talk nonsense then when called out on it? You clear the comms like the final circle of Warzone.

But in his defense stfu was a better option tho.

[Hey Yo]

You had a weird meltdown about how everyone was hating on Sanders.

And a meltdown on how Stephen Jackson DID say nikka (with the a at the end) and not nikker when referring to Sanders lol

[Meticode]

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice

Should've said "Toody, toody, toody"

[Meticode]

It's crazy when you think about it. This thread and the arguments inside of it exists because 13 players out of 90 players in the NBA said Haliburton was overrated. Talking about racists arguments and defenses. Talking about NFL drafts. Talking about meltdowns. Who said what. Reggie Miller. Stephen Jackson. All cops being white...

...all because 13 NBA players voted Haliburton was overrated.

:roll:

https://media.tenor.com/SbYbxUrVUpsAAAAM/train-crash.gif

[GOBB]

And a meltdown on how Stephen Jackson DID say nikka (with the a at the end) and not nikker when referring to Sanders lol

No you bozo you typed n*gger and claimed Sjax said the exact same thing. Hoe ass dudes here afraid to stand on what they said? You’re a bozo.

[GOBB]

It's crazy when you think about it. This thread and the arguments inside of it exists because 13 players out of 90 players in the NBA said Haliburton was overrated. Talking about racists arguments and defenses. Talking about NFL drafts. Talking about meltdowns. Who said what. Reggie Miller. Stephen Jackson. All cops being white...

...all because 13 NBA players voted Haliburton was overrated.

:roll:

https://media.tenor.com/SbYbxUrVUpsAAAAM/train-crash.gif

What are you MetaAiChode?

[Meticode]

What are you MetaAiChode?

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[Manny98]

Superstars make max and arent underpaid their whole careers. Role players dont carry bad teams. A liability that lef his team in ortg and drtg not to mention countless other stats. Poor manny woti :facepalm

Rudy Gobert sucks he's not even a top 10 center in the league

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy Gobert sucks he's not even a top 10 center in the league

Hes 33. He shouldnt even be starting anymore at that age but here he is. 2nd straight conference championship while ranking high in many advanced stats as he has more more than a decade. One day you may be right but you still wont be able to quit me! :roll:

[ImKobe]

If scoring over 40 three times, and at least 25 in every game is shitting the bed in guess Kobe had series where he diarrhea'd all over the bed then.

I guess that's not enough though. LeBron has to score over 40 every game for it not to be a choke to you.

Crazy hater talk.

I don't deny he's choked in some series, but this one was a horrible example.

It's really not. He had a 41-point game in that series on 28 FGA & 24 FTA lol. The choking part is him missing FTs and turning the ball over in crunch time in losses and he obviously underperformed in G6.

[Meticode]

It's really not. He had a 41-point game in that series on 28 FGA & 24 FTA lol. The choking part is him missing FTs and turning the ball over in crunch time in losses and he obviously underperformed in G6.

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[RRR3]

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First time encountering that troll eh

[Meticode]

First time encountering that troll eh

What can I say? Sometimes people like to hurt themselves.

[90sgoat]

Hes 33. He shouldnt even be starting anymore at that age but here he is. 2nd straight conference championship while ranking high in many advanced stats as he has more more than a decade. One day you may be right but you still wont be able to quit me! :roll:

Rudy just needs Luka feeding him. If Lakers and Minnesota are smart, they trade Lebron for Gobert.

[Xiao Yao You]

Rudy just needs Luka feeding him. If Lakers and Minnesota are smart, they trade Lebron for Gobert.

Luka needs gobert. Would suck to have to watch him on the lakers

[Axe]

Rudy Gobert sucks he's not even a top 10 center in the league
Lmao.