View Full Version : what grade do you give trump for his first hundred days and why?
diamenz
05-04-2025, 01:44 PM
...and what can he do/change going forward to make it better or worse?
let's hope we don't see any A's or F's for the sake of maintaining some semblance of sanity.
warriorfan
05-04-2025, 02:04 PM
This is a little too soon.
In perspective this is the equivalent of grading an NBA team after the first 5 games of the season.
Judging an NFL team after the first game.
Or a baseball team in early April.
Give it a little time.
diamenz
05-04-2025, 02:21 PM
This is a little too soon.
In perspective this is the equivalent of grading an NBA team after the first 5 games of the season.
Judging an NFL team after the first game.
Or a baseball team in early April.
Give it a little time.
i don't think there's any harm in it. i hear your point about any policy not having it's due time to show effect but there's other reasonable ways to grade the administration.
to be fair i'll create another thread at the one year mark to better assess actual results.
SouBeachTalents
05-04-2025, 03:27 PM
I always found the fixation about 100 days so bizarre. It's a completely arbitrary timeline, the media obsesses about it but makes no mention of other milestones like the first 6 months. Hell even the first year gets a fraction of the coverage the slightly more than first 3 months does.
diamenz
05-04-2025, 03:40 PM
alright i'll set the tone then, a quick rundown...
foreign policy: D+
promised to end the ukraine war on day one - didn't deliver. i know trump apologists will say 'he wasn't serious or how can you set such unrealistic expectations' but the war is over with a simple phone to zelensky signifying that we're out - that we're cutting financial snd military aid completely and absolutely and bringing home all of our troops uniformed or otherwise. let the europeans hold the bag on this because this wasn't trump's war to begin with and if he really doesn't want it, be over and done with it. the eventual outcome is inevitably russia's victory. otoh, everything from the past three months has at least been a step in the right direction and is a far cry from what a kamala or biden term would have looked like.
israel. similar to any other past president - a slave to the lobby. hasn't shown himself to be anything other than netanyahu and mariam adelson's lapdog and furthermore pledged to buy gaza, 'clean it up' it with our $ and troops and ethnically cleanse the region at the behest of the zionist movement. nope, not our problem. clean up your own mess. handle your own problems. our $ is better spent at home. fund the iron dome and that's the extent of our support.
otoh, hasn't taken us to war with iran yet and has resisted the lobby in that regard. let's hope for the best. america first? we'll see.
economy/tariffs: C
i don't support blanketed tariffs. so far they've only been used as a leveraging/bullying tactic against weaker economies that have no choice other than to fold for what i would assume only to be mediocre 'wins'. tariffs as they're laid out now were not a part of the campaign. voters didn't put trump in office for another inflation.
a few posters have told me to be optimistic, which goes against my nature, but i'm willing to be open minded. if the trump admin narrows down and targets the tariffs in an intelligent way to bring back specific manufacturing industries that benefit our workforce i would absolutely get behind them. so my grade on this can go either up or down.
immigration: B+
this is trump's bread and butter. aside from going too hastily and aggressively and mistakes being made i support the effort. no real complaints but admit your mistakes and fix them.
administration competence, cohesion and staff choices: B.
way more competent and much better cohesion than the first go-around. needs to get rid of the neocons in his ear giving him bad advice though. steve witcoff deserves a nobel peace prize for the peace efforts he's undertaking in both ukraine and the ME.
wokeness, dei and ladyboys in women's sports: A+ no brainer.
epstein files: F. campaign promise broke. what are we waiting for?
F, although I would give that to anyone that was allowed to become President.
If you want specific reasons:
1. Bombing the shit out of Yemen
2. Continuing to facilitate a genocide in Palestine (Biden started it but he's continuing it)
3. ****ing up the economy with his retarded tariffs
4. ****ing with environmental protections/climate stuff
5. Ending birthright citizenship
6. ****ing with stuff in terms of public health
7. end of USAID and various other stuff that helps the less fortunate
8. Trying to get rid of the department of education and privatize schools
9. Deportations of immigrants and weaponizing ICE further. Even if you don't agree with me on open borders, you can realize him deporting people without due process is bad as is the fact that he's sending them to a concentration camp.
10. Detaining and violence against protestors.
There's way more obviously, but you get it. He's also been threatening to do way worse than just the stuff mentioned, and I take him seriously when he makes threats even if other people don't.
imdaman99
05-05-2025, 01:11 AM
“I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy because he’s done a terrible job,” Trump said. “He did a terrible job on everything.”
That is our commander in chief, and since I am part of the cult, I have no choice but to agree with him on everything. I don't know what reality I'm living in
Hey Yo
05-05-2025, 05:35 AM
F, although I would give that to anyone that was allowed to become President.
If you want specific reasons:
1. Bombing the shit out of Yemen
2. Continuing to facilitate a genocide in Palestine (Biden started it but he's continuing it)
3. ****ing up the economy with his retarded tariffs
4. ****ing with environmental protections/climate stuff
5. Ending birthright citizenship
6. ****ing with stuff in terms of public health
7. end of USAID and various other stuff that helps the less fortunate
8. Trying to get rid of the department of education and privatize schools
9. Deportations of immigrants and weaponizing ICE further. Even if you don't agree with me on open borders, you can realize him deporting people without due process is bad as is the fact that he's sending them to a concentration camp.
10. Detaining and violence against protestors.
There's way more obviously, but you get it. He's also been threatening to do way worse than just the stuff mentioned, and I take him seriously when he makes threats even if other people don't.
Dumb libtard is dumb
Wardell Curry
05-05-2025, 08:20 AM
F
He has failed to deliver on multiple campaign promises despite delivering and semi delivering on some.
His ignorance about how tariffs work has dampened trade and damaged relationships with other countries for no reason.
China hasn't been "ripping us off" for decades.
We outsourced our labor to them because of greed, numbnuts.
The fact that we have a deficit and they have a surplus is not their "fault." They produce more physical goods than we do. Period. We produce ideas and do the mental work, but they do the physical work. We set it up this way. American corporate greed and american consumer greed (read: us - aka you, you the person reading this) did this. The people of the United States voting with their wallets for cheap Chinese goods did this.
The only reason he doesn't get an F- is because he has cracked down on illegal immigrants somewhat and is putting up with far less shit than before.
But he also fails to realize that the reason Western leaders are ignorantly allowing and pushing for mass illegal immigration is because without it there will be a massive population decline and a failure of our longstanding economic models, as the debt based system is heavily dependent on growth. Well whatever, the US is a further and further failed state as caucasian population declines. None of this matters anyways.
j3lademaster
05-05-2025, 10:21 AM
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economy/tariffs: C
i don't support blanketed tariffs. so far they've only been used as a leveraging/bullying tactic against weaker economies that have no choice other than to fold for what i would assume only to be mediocre 'wins'. tariffs as they're laid out now were not a part of the campaign. voters didn't put trump in office for another inflation.
a few posters have told me to be optimistic, which goes against my nature, but i'm willing to be open minded. if the trump admin narrows down and targets the tariffs in an intelligent way to bring back specific manufacturing industries that benefit our workforce i would absolutely get behind them. so my grade on this can go either up or down.
The economy is an easy 'F'. You don't just throw tariffs around 0-100, they have to be done marginally in a large scale economy. Throw in a 10-15% tariff, and see if it has any correlation with manufacturing, raise the tariff accordingly etc. We also need to actually build the infrastructure for the manufacturing first, last thing you want is a 60% shortage in steel and be 5 years away from building enough mills to satisfy even 20% of that. This is literally Macro 101 shit. Tariffs also trickle up and hurt value added industries like AI, finance, chip manufacturing etc. which is beyond retarded amidst the AI race, which is going to be the most important industrial revolution of our lifetimes. US vc's are all bracing for a recession while loss mitigation hf's are dancing to the pina colada song while doing lines off coke off of hookers in celebration.
And I haven't even touched on the actual stock market yet.
1987_Lakers
05-05-2025, 10:28 AM
A
- Secured the border
- Doge has been a huge success
- Minerals deal with Ukraine
Economy hasn't been disastrous even with tariffs despite what many people say. Stock market has bounced back and the job report in April was in the positive. Prices in general have fallen since he replaced Biden.
tpols
05-05-2025, 11:23 AM
I would give him an A+, but I feel like it would be an underappreciation for what he's accomplished.
ShawkFactory
05-05-2025, 11:26 AM
...and what can he do/change going forward to make it better or worse?
let's hope we don't see any A's or F's for the sake of maintaining some semblance of sanity.
VERY wishful thinking :lol
Hey Yo
05-05-2025, 11:27 AM
A
- Secured the border
- Doge has been a huge success
- Minerals deal with Ukraine
Economy hasn't been disastrous even with tariffs despite what many people say. Stock market has bounced back and the job report in April was in the positive. Prices in general have fallen since he replaced Biden.
Plus he's brought home at least 26 American hostages that were being held captive in various countries.
JohnnySic
05-05-2025, 11:47 AM
Too early to grade but he's helping the good guys win the culture war and that's the main thing. I'm confident that his policies will help build a strong economy like he did his first term. Its early still.
TeflonDonTrump
05-05-2025, 12:42 PM
Culture war - A+
Immigration - A++++
Fort Knox - F
Epstein Files - F
JFK Files - A
Russia Ukraine - B-
Palestine Israel - D
Tariff against China - C
Tariff against Canada - A
Tariff against Europe A++++
Tariff against Mexico - A
Political corruption - B
Jasper
05-05-2025, 12:56 PM
a+ working on golf game while past presidents did not take vacations as soon as he did ,,, giving a euro control of our country.
b+ for nodding his head walking by Elon's vehicles even though he is against green energy.
d for border ... he is off countroling other countries while mexican borders hav holes as wide as a city block.
( he could negoitate with indian tribes to close those holes) and put up a wall length of border.
A for sucking putin off ... he must be a mistro.
d- for screwing us with friends that are friends with other countries.
b+ for sticking it to the megas telling them he could stop the cost of living , when he has raised it .
c+ megas loving buying new cars but tariff only raised new vehicles 15%.... need more tariffs.
d- for trying to act big over china that owns the united states of america
diamenz
05-05-2025, 12:56 PM
9. Deportations of immigrants and weaponizing ICE further. Even if you don't agree with me on open borders,
wait... you're pro illegal immigration?
wait... you're pro illegal immigration?
Do you know what anarchy means?
Borders are made up.
Neal Romer
05-05-2025, 01:47 PM
F, although I would give that to anyone that was allowed to become President.
If you want specific reasons:
1. Bombing the shit out of Yemen
2. Continuing to facilitate a genocide in Palestine (Biden started it but he's continuing it)
3. ****ing up the economy with his retarded tariffs
4. ****ing with environmental protections/climate stuff
5. Ending birthright citizenship
6. ****ing with stuff in terms of public health
7. end of USAID and various other stuff that helps the less fortunate
8. Trying to get rid of the department of education and privatize schools
9. Deportations of immigrants and weaponizing ICE further. Even if you don't agree with me on open borders, you can realize him deporting people without due process is bad as is the fact that he's sending them to a concentration camp.
10. Detaining and violence against protestors.
There's way more obviously, but you get it. He's also been threatening to do way worse than just the stuff mentioned, and I take him seriously when he makes threats even if other people don't.
"The Anarchist" :lol
"The Anarchist" :lol
Yeah, you don't know the first thing about anarchy because you're an idiot. Trump isn't installing anarchy, if he was he would be spreading anarchist literature around to people, setting up mutual aid organizations to replace these agencies and trying to educate the populace before dismantling everything. That's not what he's doing, he's just dismantling certain agencies that are set up to do (admittedly flawed) help while leaving in and even emboldening the agencies that continue to crush people under the heel of capitalism. Anarchy does not mean getting rid of programs that help people while leaving in programs that harm them.
Neal Romer
05-05-2025, 02:39 PM
Yeah, you don't know the first thing about anarchy because you're an idiot. Trump isn't installing anarchy, if he was he would be spreading anarchist literature around to people, setting up mutual aid organizations to replace these agencies and trying to educate the populace before dismantling everything. That's not what he's doing, he's just dismantling certain agencies that are set up to do (admittedly flawed) help while leaving in and even emboldening the agencies that continue to crush people under the heel of capitalism. Anarchy does not mean getting rid of programs that help people while leaving in programs that harm them.
Anarchy is no government right?
So why is it Trump's responsibility to do these things? According to you hes a random person with no authority. You dont recognize him as President. Hes just one guy in 8 billion. Why single him out?
Why arent you setting up organizations and passing out literature?
Maybe youre just projecting the F you deserve onto Trump.
TheMan
05-05-2025, 02:58 PM
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/president-trumps-first-100-days-april-2025/
Like the plurality of the American people in this Marist poll, my grade is an F.
SouBeachTalents
05-05-2025, 03:16 PM
Anarchy is no government right?
So why is it Trump's responsibility to do these things? According to you hes a random person with no authority. You dont recognize him as President. Hes just one guy in 8 billion. Why single him out?
Why arent you setting up organizations and passing out literature?
Maybe youre just projecting the F you deserve onto Trump.
You don't know what anarchy is and you didn't know how many teams are in the NFL. You're kind of embarrassing yourself right now tbh.
Neal Romer
05-05-2025, 04:02 PM
You don't know what anarchy is and you didn't know how many teams are in the NFL. You're kind of embarrassing yourself right now tbh.
:lol
It's true. Ive been "gotcha'd" by some of the most astute minds the internet has ever produced.
I will now retreat in humility and contemplate my foolish ways.
Baller234
05-05-2025, 04:25 PM
Do you know what anarchy means?
Borders are made up.
Lol, nice try but we know you obviously don't believe this. :oldlol:
If you really believe borders are just made up and should be open to anyone, do you leave your front door unlocked and let strangers come live in your home? Probably not, because even though your property lines are "made up"... you still recognize the need for boundaries.
Countries are no different. It is just a larger home we all share responsibility for. Without boundaries you don't have a country.
Overdrive
05-05-2025, 04:34 PM
Lol, nice try but we know you obviously don't believe this. :oldlol:
If you really believe borders are just made up and should be open to anyone, do you leave your front door unlocked and let strangers come live in your home? Probably not, because even though your property lines are "made up"... you still recognize the need for boundaries.
Countries are no different. It is just a larger home we all share responsibility for. Without boundaries you don't have a country.
Having a private home isn't contrary to anarchism. Prehistoric small scale societies had homes, but no government.
You do understand that the lack of governments automatically means no countries?
Baller234
05-05-2025, 04:47 PM
Having a private home isn't contrary to anarchism. Prehistoric small scale societies had homes, but no government.
You do understand that the lack of governments automatically means no countries?
I didn't say having a home is contrary to anarchism. I said having a home is proof that you believe in enforcing borders.
In the absence of government, people would just be forced to self govern and enforce their own boundaries.
Off the Court
05-05-2025, 06:17 PM
I'd say immigration is maybe the only thing that isn't an F. He's taken a very healthy and freshly recovered economy and torn up to shreds with his tariffs. It's been disastrous so far.
On the immigration though, I wouldn't say "borders are made up" but it should be pointed out that Americans are living on stolen land. We shouldn't have a say in who lives here.
Baller234
05-05-2025, 06:26 PM
I'd say immigration is maybe the only thing that isn't an F. He's taken a very healthy and freshly recovered economy and torn up to shreds with his tariffs. It's been disastrous so far.
On the immigration though, I wouldn't say "borders are made up" but it should be pointed out that Americans are living on stolen land. We shouldn't have a say in who lives here.
You woke libs are really hilarious. If you feel so bad about living on stolen land, why haven't you given up your home yet? What are you waiting for?
What kind of piece of s*** holds onto something that doesn't belong to them?
literally every bawler post:
https://media.tenor.com/5XEghMgLeNkAAAAM/mad-donaldduck.gif
Jasper
05-05-2025, 06:42 PM
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/president-trumps-first-100-days-april-2025/
Like the plurality of the American people in this Marist poll, my grade is an F.
if that is a dig on ISH posters i then have you at a FF
White Hammer
05-05-2025, 08:56 PM
literally every bawler post:
https://media.tenor.com/5XEghMgLeNkAAAAM/mad-donaldduck.gif
Superior white duck with normal size bill tearing ish up and exerting dominance over his environment? Based.
warriorfan
05-05-2025, 09:27 PM
How can someone who wishes for anarchy also think such a huge percentage needs to be taken care of from a welfare state.
Anarchy is basically turbo capitalism with no recourse for the guys who get ****ed unless they can buck back on their own (I’m sure RRR3 wouldn’t)
Tbh I can’t wait for anarch comminism or whatever the **** RRR3 calls it as he gets raped, looted, and murdered on the first day of implication.
He is super transparent when he is advocating for communism because he’s incapable of competing with his peers. He just wants a free lunch and do it under the guise that he has a huge heart and is looking out for the poor people (while not acknowledging he is part of them, but he’s their savior instead)
Long story short RRR3 is the biggest projecting loser of all time. He’s low iq and his agendas are so transparent. You ain’t fooling anyone bro.
Go shelve some more books, chop chop.
Jasper
05-06-2025, 02:08 PM
You woke libs are really hilarious. If you feel so bad about living on stolen land, why haven't you given up your home yet? What are you waiting for?
What kind of piece of s*** holds onto something that doesn't belong to them?
and yet you ok to call your brother up as a kkk
John8204
05-09-2025, 02:59 AM
Economy - F - leading us into a recession
Foreign Policy - F - undermines US soft power, facilitated Russia's war on Ukraine, WWIII might be starting under his watch.
Domestic policy - C - closed the borders attacked the bureaucratic nightmare that is the federal government, still pushing for giant tax cuts and failing at attack the largest threat to US sovereignty private equity.
Baller234
05-09-2025, 10:35 AM
The only knock on his grade is the current uncertainty we're seeing in the markets. It's hard to fully gauge because we're in the eye of the storm. Could end up being a net positive. Things would really have to plunge beyond all comprehension before I give him a failing grade.
Plus, you can't not grade on a curve. Orange Face was up against the most stacked deck in history and came out on top. He's done so many positive things and really saved our country from the evil traitors. That's not to say I can't judge him fairly from here on out, but I'm willing to cut him more slack considering what we're up against.
I'll also say this, the Epstein thing was clearly bullshit. Trump ran on releasing that shit but we know it's never getting released. It's all a game. When you have blackmail material over the most powerful people in the world, you don't just let that shit go. Whoever has that info is holding onto it forever. So yea, Trump probably lied about that.
TheMan
05-09-2025, 10:47 AM
The only knock on his grade is the current uncertainty we're seeing in the markets. It's hard to fully gauge because we're in the eye of the storm. Could end up being a net positive. Things would really have to plunge beyond all comprehension before I give him a failing grade.
Plus, you can't not grade on a curve. Orange Face was up against the most stacked deck in history and came out on top. He's done so many positive things and really saved our country from the evil traitors. That's not to say I can't judge him fairly from here on out, but I'm willing to cut him more slack considering what we're up against.
I'll also say this, the Epstein thing was clearly bullshit. Trump ran on releasing that shit but we know it's never getting released. It's all a game. When you have blackmail material over the most powerful people in the world, you don't just let that shit go. Whoever has that info is holding onto it forever. So yea, Trump probably lied about that.
Lol, Trump ain't releasing the Epstein files because he went numerous times. He banged Melania in one of those flights, God knows how many other ones and what their ages were. Anyways, Trump believes Mattel is a real country and even makes up a dialogue and lies like it's no thing :lol
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZShD5kPkV/
diamenz
05-09-2025, 10:49 AM
I'll also say this, the Epstein thing was clearly bullshit. Trump ran on releasing that shit but we know it's never getting released. It's all a game. When you have blackmail material over the most powerful people in the world, you don't just let that shit go. Whoever has that info is holding onto it forever. So yea, Trump probably lied about that.
either that or the files are already shredded, burned and gone forever.
Baller234
05-09-2025, 10:52 AM
Lol, Trump ain't releasing the Epstein files because he went numerous times. He banged Melania in one of those flights, God knows how many other ones and what their ages were. Anyways, Trump believes Mattel is a real country and even makes up a dialogue and lies like it's no thing :lol
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZShD5kPkV/
Wait, you have evidence that Trump was on the Epstein flights and visited the island numerous times? Are you telling me TheMan is aware of this but not Trump's most powerful enemies?
Can you provide us with this evidence? I would really like to see it.
Baller234
05-09-2025, 11:00 AM
either that or the files are already shredded, burned and gone forever.
Maybe, but if the evidence was all gone I don't think we would be seeing this dog and pony show. God knows what kind of back door deals were made or are still being made. Kash Patel said yesterday he believes Epstein hung himself. So that could mean one of the two things:
- He's been compromised or threatened
- He's in on the coverup, which means Trump is in on the coverup.
ZenMaster
05-09-2025, 11:13 AM
Wait, you have evidence that Trump was on the Epstein flights and visited the island numerous times? Are you telling me TheMan is aware of this but not Trump's most powerful enemies?
Can you provide us with this evidence? I would really like to see it.
TheMan is using obfuscation and he's muddied "the Epstein flights" into a talking point where it means anyone who ever flew on the plane, instead of how the story was originally about rich people who used the plane to go to Epstein's own island.
Media does the same, they'll say there were kids on the flights with Trump, neglecting to mention that they were his own kids nor that they flew from Florida to NY and not Epstein island.
diamenz
05-09-2025, 11:57 AM
Media does the same, they'll say there were kids on the flights with Trump, neglecting to mention that they were his own kids nor that they flew from Florida to NY and not Epstein island.
talk about ulterior motives. the msm is a *ucking cancer man.
John8204
05-09-2025, 03:31 PM
The only knock on his grade is the current uncertainty we're seeing in the markets. It's hard to fully gauge because we're in the eye of the storm. Could end up being a net positive. Things would really have to plunge beyond all comprehension before I give him a failing grade.
Plus, you can't not grade on a curve. Orange Face was up against the most stacked deck in history and came out on top. He's done so many positive things and really saved our country from the evil traitors. That's not to say I can't judge him fairly from here on out, but I'm willing to cut him more slack considering what we're up against.
I'll also say this, the Epstein thing was clearly bullshit. Trump ran on releasing that shit but we know it's never getting released. It's all a game. When you have blackmail material over the most powerful people in the world, you don't just let that shit go. Whoever has that info is holding onto it forever. So yea, Trump probably lied about that.
:oldlol:
LOL...why do people that don't know history always talk about history. Biden came into his presidency during a global pandemic, Obama came in under two wars and an economic crash, Clinton came in during race riots and a recession, Carter came in during a recession, LBJ had to replace an assassinated president after WWIII almost started.
Trump came in after messes he made
Baller234
05-09-2025, 08:20 PM
:oldlol:
LOL...why do people that don't know history always talk about history. Biden came into his presidency during a global pandemic, Obama came in under two wars and an economic crash, Clinton came in during race riots and a recession, Carter came in during a recession, LBJ had to replace an assassinated president after WWIII almost started.
Trump came in after messes he made
Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?
You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.
Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?
You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.
Calm down Klansman Kevin, we know you're enraged that black people have rights these days but try to stop frothing at the mouth for five seconds
John8204
05-09-2025, 10:43 PM
Trump came in after messes HE made? Huh? What's that supposed to mean?
You need to be specific. Last time I checked when Trump took office the first time the country was booming until the virus of unknown origin started to spread. The virus that democrats said definitely was not made in a lab.
It never ceases to amaze me the level of inherent dishonesty that comes from Trump supporters.
How many millions of dollars did Trump get from China? We could also discuss the violent insurrection. The government sponsored media pipeline between The White House and Fox that included a lie about the election. We could discuss the purge of conservatives that were not corrupt during this era. Maybe you would like to discuss Trump's criminal actions in both with the 38 sexual assault accusers or the real estate fraud.
Baller234
05-09-2025, 11:07 PM
It never ceases to amaze me the level of inherent dishonesty that comes from Trump supporters.
How many millions of dollars did Trump get from China? We could also discuss the violent insurrection. The government sponsored media pipeline between The White House and Fox that included a lie about the election. We could discuss the purge of conservatives that were not corrupt during this era. Maybe you would like to discuss Trump's criminal actions in both with the 38 sexual assault accusers or the real estate fraud.
I would love to talk about all of them actually. China, Jan 6, the 2020 election... whatever you want.
Tell me which Trump "mess" you want to talk about first. Pick one. I would rather not go off on a thousand tangents.
John8204
05-10-2025, 02:32 AM
I would love to talk about all of them actually. China, Jan 6, the 2020 election... whatever you want.
Tell me which Trump "mess" you want to talk about first. Pick one. I would rather not go off on a thousand tangents.
Let's talk about Russia and Trump sending Covid tests to Russia during the pandemic. Aiding Russia during the pandemic after extorting Ukraine for political information against Biden.
Baller234
05-10-2025, 09:48 AM
Let's talk about Russia and Trump sending Covid tests to Russia during the pandemic. Aiding Russia during the pandemic after extorting Ukraine for political information against Biden.
So let me understand this.
Of all the things you take issue with when it comes to Orange Face, in your grand scheme to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's the worst president ever... THIS is what you want to talk about? That Trump may or may not have sent Covid tests to Russia? :oldlol:
There's not even any proof that this happened, but even if it did... that's worse than what the democrats did? Lying about the virus's origin? Colluding with big tech to silence people on social media? Deleting posts that claimed the virus came from a lab?
Or what about shutting down all the blue states for over a year? What about shutting down parks and arresting people for canoeing by themselves in the lake but allowing thousands of people to protest? What about lying about the efficacy of surgical masks? Or how they basically admitted they made up the whole "6 feet apart" rule and that it wasn't grounded in anything logical or scientific.
Don't get me started on the actual vaccine itself. What about the massive flip flop the dems did once Brandon became president? What about lying about it's efficacy? What about mandating the vaccine after they claimed they wouldn't? What about Fauci outright lying about his involvement in the gain of function research and the democrats covering for him? Or what about trying to disincentivize people from treating covid using Ivermectin by falsely labeling it as horse medicine?
You can call me whatever you want but you can't call me a liar because all of these things happened.
But sure, keep pretending like the democrats were the good guys throughout all this. Pretending is all you theater kids have left.
ZenMaster
05-11-2025, 03:54 PM
talk about ulterior motives. the msm is a *ucking cancer man.
True, but people like TheMan who play along with this while they know they're spreading lies aren't really any better. Not surprised that guy won't show himself in the thread again.
TheMan
05-11-2025, 04:59 PM
True, but people like TheMan who play along with this while they know they're spreading lies aren't really any better. Not surprised that guy won't show himself in the thread again.
I'm here dog. I haven't seen anything worth replying to and I'm done with you Trump cultists, there's no point.
hiphopanonymous
05-15-2025, 01:15 PM
I'd give him an A on immigration policy and results thus far, as well as border security.
I'd give him a tentative C on the economy which could go up or down depending on the next 100 days. Broken down it's an A for the ambition and boldness to try and shake things up around the world that puts the ball back in USA's court on economic dominance. However, a D on the market instability it initially created and the ensuing tariff war which I don't think he saw coming. He's playing a chess match with the global economy and just like any chess player will tell you, you can't anticipate the opposition. I think he expected more compliance than what he got.
I'd give him an B on erasing woke social engineering rot that is pervasive in the government and social climate of the US. He's trying to make all the right moves but he's got opposition preventing him from getting an A and he isn't winning as many battles in this field as I'd hope he could but he's winning most so far anyways. Trying to course correct colleges is for example one of his biggest hurdles. As well as controlling states that still let men compete with women in sports. Insanity, yet there are insane politicians that seem ready to fight damn near to death on that ideology.
I'd give him a C+ or a B- at best on foreign diplomacy and relations. He ended the fighting with Israel and Hamas almost immediately and brought Russia and Ukraine to the table for discussion which on it's own looked super impressive at first, but of course it's been messy and controversial IMO how it's all unfolded after that. His head and heart are totally in the right place I think, but the results look jarring, awkward, or thus far ineffective depending on what facet of those two conflicts I'm looking at. He is bringing in some great trade deals with other countries however. He seems very persuasive with respect to his economic discussions with certain leaders that I've been happy to see. He also got compliance almost immediately on border and immigration issues with several countries that were trying to poison the well.
I'd give him a B+ on cleaning up the swamp / government shakedown / spending shakedowns. He rattled a ton of cages which is EXACTLY what this bloated US government needed. Crooked as hell, with barely six figure salaried congress people becoming multi millionaires and tens of millionaires within a few years which is absolutely corrupt as hell and god knows what else was and still is going on behind closed doors and I applaud his efforts to sink his teeth into basically an internal government audit. Not an A because he's inevitably going to cut off the heads of some good programs or personal in his heavy handed approach... but it's probably a necessary evil anyways so I'm good with it for now.
D on environmental policy, though it's linked at the hip tethered to an A on internal economic development... He wants to utilize protected lands, reduce restrictions and regulations designed to protect the air/land/resources etc. It's probably a necessary evil... though if you ever see a redwood forest or even just a hundreds year old forest in some New England states get cut down and understand it takes hundreds to 10's of thousands of years to make a forest like that you realize a lot of what is labeled renewable and up for grabs for the sake of progress was actually clearly not renewable. But... maybe it's what the country needs right now. We'll see.
Finally, A++++++++++++++++++++ on TRANSPARENCY.
I have NEVER SEEN any presidential tenure / cabinet / etc show full videos of meetings and give brief no nonsense explanations of every executive order being signed. Love the orders, like them, dislike them or hate them it doesn't matter - he's SHOWING THE PEOPLE exactly what he's doing and this was not the case from other presidency in history. It's honestly amazing to watch. If the left had been this transparent they'd actually get even less votes next time imo because they were pushing psycho woke crap behind closed doors for a reason. Note, everybody points out what a wack job they think Kennedy is for swimming in a stream with his grandkids meanwhile that freakshow trans health person from the last office wasn't ever discussed. I actually had no idea that person was even the one Kennedy replaced and I was dumfounded once I found out. That person was ok with gender affirming care to transition kids. Think about how evil and psychotic that is, meanwhile Kennedy gets flamed for merely questioning the efficacy or safety of certain drugs or vaccines the giant monster that big pharma has turned into. So yeah, I'll take this open book adminstration whether I agree with the results all day long over another secretive one, especially if they're pushing wackjob ideas and ideologies behind closed doors.
Overall I'm rooting for him to succeed and hope some of these areas turn around for the better so that it's awfully hard for even people that were on team left to walk away and say life wasn't better due to things his administration did. There's a bunch of backwards hedonistic weirdos everywhere in the US nowadays that seem to think socialism is a good idea. **** all of them. Family nucleus, small government that stays out of the way and protects liberty, etc. This government has a better handle on things than any I've seen in recent years. The controversy is there only because there are so many backwards weirdos in the US now a days.
ZenMaster
05-16-2025, 04:11 AM
I'm here dog. I haven't seen anything worth replying to and I'm done with you Trump cultists, there's no point.
You're being outed here for straight up lying, glad to see you're not even trying to argue against it with more nonsense.
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