so where are the epstein files?

[diamenz]

can we all agree that pam bondi is full of shit?

[Off the Court]

It is very evident that Trump is mixed in a lot and they are trying to figure out how to work around that. Epstein said on the tapes "I was Donald Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

All of the Trumps are on his contact list.

[ZenMaster]

can we all agree that pam bondi is full of shit?

Hot off the press for you my man https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1920625663012127191

[Baller234]

It is very evident that Trump is mixed in a lot and they are trying to figure out how to work around that. Epstein said on the tapes "I was Donald Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

All of the Trumps are on his contact list.

"Epstein said on the tapes.."

"The tapes.."

This clown is referring to a random audio bit that was posted by The Daily Beast the week of the election. :oldlol:

OTC is your boomer dad that can't tell when an internet post is fake or not. :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

Epstein said it, so yeah. :confusedshrug:

What am I missing here? Since the Daily Beast posted it, that means it doesn't count or something?

[Baller234]

Epstein said it, so yeah. :confusedshrug:

What am I missing here? Since the Daily Beast posted it, that means it doesn't count or something?

The Daily Beast is anti-Trump tabloid. The original post you're referring to was behind a paywall :oldlol:

You don't find it odd they had possession of this audio and NO ONE else did??? And not ANYONE else in the democratic media apparatus ran with it?? :oldlol:

And for it drop THREE days before the election?? :oldlol:

Do you not have a functioning bullshit detector?? Like I said please tell us you're a boomer then maybe I can cut you some slack. :oldlol:

[diamenz]

Hot off the press for you my man https://x.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1920625663012127191

she's gaslighting the maga base and stalling for time to get them off her back with that scripted ass talking point. a talking point she feels the need to use even at a private lunch. :roll:

yeah, they're never getting released.

[Off the Court]

The Daily Beast is anti-Trump tabloid. The original post you're referring to was behind a paywall :oldlol:

You don't find it odd they had possession of this audio and NO ONE else did??? And not ANYONE else in the democratic media apparatus ran with it?? :oldlol:

And for it drop THREE days before the election?? :oldlol:

Do you not have a functioning bullshit detector?? Like I said please tell us you're a boomer then maybe I can cut you some slack. :oldlol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F6iUNASWkg


Epstein literally says "I was Donald Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

I don't care who interviewed him, or who released it, fact is that Epstein said it.

[Off the Court]

she's gaslighting the maga base and stalling for time to get them off her back with that scripted ass talking point. a talking point she feels the need to use even at a private lunch. :roll:

yeah, they're never getting released.

"tens of thousands of tapes" isn't even plausible. Even if every video was just 30 minutes long, that would be years of footage. The flight logs don't support that at all.

[Baller234]

Epstein literally says "I was Donald Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

I don't care who interviewed him, or who released it, fact is that Epstein said it.

Of course you don't care whether or not the source is reliable, because you so badly want to believe this is real. If you did any research on this Michael Wolff character at all, you would know he wrote several books bashing Trump in which he admitted that there was a "looseness of the truth" where he would recreate conversations that never actually happened. Multiple claims from those books have been disputed, either as misrepresentations or outright fabrications.

I mean how do you even know the audio is legitimate? How do you know it isn't edited or spliced together? He says, "I think we have a snippet of a conversation I recorded with Epstein. I think this was in a restaurant in 2017..." Lol you sat down with this guy for an interview but you don't remember where it was? :oldlol:

In fact if you watch the video you yourself posted, Saagar even says the guy was famous for making things up. I know Krystal seems to be all in on it but she is also delusional midwit who was dumb enough to marry Kyle Kulinski and hates Donald Trump, so she's not reliable either.

Also if that really is Epstein, in the audio he's accusing Trump of being this horrible human being. Lol this coming from a guy who was peddling underage girls and blackmailing countless individuals. :oldlol:

The fact that Epstein was on the outs with Trump and seems to resent him so badly gives me MORE confidence that he was kicked to the curb before he was able to get any dirt on him.

[RRR3]

https://media.tenor.com/zy5SHsehrl8AAAAM/donald-duck-angry.gif
:roll:

[Baller234]

I love Donald Duck, easily the GOAT classic disney character.

[BurningHammer]

Being redacted at the moment?

[Jasper]

trump has a secret sex room ,, inside it is a secret vault with epstein files , collateral damage screwing 14 year olds.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcREZWsIwu9wY7JdvrYvrDc7UpjVeg_ov 0eoUw&s

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bb/ec/c9/bbecc9990c3587a7c8836dff8caba9c3.gif

[diamenz]

what was that about mossad??? i wonder how many guns were trained on patel and bongino's heads during that interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jWnQ7PZUXgI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snqustw2oJ0

[highwhey]

anyone?

[marLeY baLL]

Re: so where are the epstein files?

:47

https://youtu.be/IsHBnS3ZLSY

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/05/96/b2/0596b2272a2f896f4edf9f7fd0e2288d.jpg

[TheMan]

I love how for Baller234 every possibility is plausible about the fact Trump and Epstein were buddies for over a decade except for Trump partaking in Epstein's perverted activities despite Trump being a POS with women in general haha. The guy who had sex with a porn star while his wife was nursing their toddler at home is proof that Trump has zero moral character and no loyalty, forget all the SA allegations...I absolutely believe Trump banged underage girls, I don't mean 10 year olds but definitely he's been with teens.

[Bill Gates]

I love how for Baller234 every possibility is plausible about the fact Trump and Epstein were buddies for over a decade except for Trump partaking in Epstein's perverted activities despite Trump being a POS with women in general haha. The guy who had sex with a porn star while his wife was nursing their toddler at home is proof that Trump has zero moral character and no loyalty, forget all the SA allegations...I absolutely believe Trump banged underage girls, I don't mean 10 year olds but definitely he's been with teens.

It is an absolute certainty.

[Baller234]

I love how for Baller234 every possibility is plausible about the fact Trump and Epstein were buddies for over a decade except for Trump partaking in Epstein's perverted activities despite Trump being a POS with women in general haha. The guy who had sex with a porn star while his wife was nursing their toddler at home is proof that Trump has zero moral character and no loyalty, forget all the SA allegations...I absolutely believe Trump banged underage girls, I don't mean 10 year olds but definitely he's been with teens.

Uh... what? Wtf does one have to do with the other?

"Cheating on your wife with a porn star means you have no loyalty which means you definitely banged minors..."

^ This is something you seriously just spoke into existence.

So anyone that's ever banged an adult film star has probably also banged a minor? Someone might want to investigate the NBA players union then.

[Bill Gates]

So anyone that's ever banged an adult film star has probably also banged a minor? Someone might want to investigate the NBA players union then.

No, but anyone who was great friends with a Epstein and was shown to have cheated on a pregnant wife with a porn star has.

Honestly just anyone who ran around with Epstein a lot should be considered sus with or without the cheating history.

[Baller234]

No, but anyone who was great friends with a Epstein and was shown to have cheated on a pregnant wife with a porn star has.

Honestly just anyone who ran around with Epstein a lot should be considered sus with or without the cheating history.

Again, what does cheating on his wife have to do with anything whatsoever?

If you want to argue that he has a connection to Epstein and that leaves room for suspicion, then make that argument. Otherwise I'm not sure what him cheating on his wife has to do with anything. It's not uncommon for powerful and wealthy elites to cheat on their spouses. That's not a crime. It also doesn't matter that she's a porn star yet you keep saying that like it's supposed to make it worse or something.

"B-b-b he cheated on his wife! With a pornstar! He must be guilty!"

Just zero logic in this argument, as usual.

[TheMan]

No, but anyone who was great friends with a Epstein and was shown to have cheated on a pregnant wife with a porn star has.

Honestly just anyone who ran around with Epstein a lot should be considered sus with or without the cheating history.

Exactly. Again, Baller234 just using semantics to defend his Dear Leader.

[Baller234]

Exactly. Again, Baller234 just using semantics to defend his Dear Leader.

We've already established that you guys hate Trump more than it's possible for anyone on the right to love him.

A thread was posted asking democrats to explain what the party stands for, and thus far it has proven impossible for you guys to do so without mentioning Trump.

Orange Face is your fixation, not ours.

[TheMan]

We've already established that you guys hate Trump more than it's possible for anyone on the right to love him.

A thread was posted asking democrats to explain what the party stands for, and thus far it has proven impossible for you guys to do so without mentioning Trump.


Orange Face is your fixation, not ours.

Nah, I've already shitted on the Democrats enough here, I no longer identify as a Democrat. I hate the Democrats, I just happen to hate the GOP and Trump even more.

BTW, if I were fixated on Trump, wouldn't I be creating thread after thread about him? Yet you have way more threads hating on Democrats than I have of Trump, and it's not even close lol

[Baller234]

Nah, I've already shitted on the Democrats enough here, I no longer identify as a Democrat. I hate the Democrats, I just happen to hate the GOP and Trump even more.

BTW, if I were fixated on Trump, wouldn't I be creating thread after thread about him? Yet you have way more threads hating on Democrats than I have of Trump, and it's not even close lol

Well yea, I do hate democrats. That's not a "gotcha" whatsoever. That's something I admit proudly, and yes it's one of the reasons I strongly support Trump.

He may not be perfect obviously, and he is kind of a weirdo sometimes, but above all else he has been an instrument of destruction when it comes to dismantling the democratic party. That alone makes him worthy of admiration.

Trump and the MAGA party have been around for only 9 years. Nothing he's done can even compare to the longstanding evil and corruption that occurred under the previous uni-party establishment. So for you to act like he's somehow worse really just exposes your whole charade.

In another thread you basically admitted that the W administration lied our country into a war, but somehow Orange Face is worse? Yea, not really buying that. You know you're on the wrong side when you have to run cover for Dick Cheney.

[Bill Gates]

So, supposedly the FBI is about to release the actual video footage of Epstein killing himself. His cell was under video surveillance.

I've always believed he was murdered. Obviously many people in high places would want him dead.

THAT SAID, he was also very much in situation that would call for suicide. I am sure he wanted to kill himself.

[highwhey]

So, supposedly the FBI is about to release the actual video footage of Epstein killing himself. His cell was under video surveillance.

I've always believed he was murdered. Obviously many people in high places would want him dead.

THAT SAID, he was also very much in situation that would call for suicide. I am sure he wanted to kill himself.

so they waited this long to release compelling evidence that goes against the more popular and most probable narrative? they waited nearly 6 years...suuuuure.

how convinient to release a video they never made mention of just when AI tech can spit out anything you prompt it to make. :whatever:

[Hey Yo]

Nah, I've already shitted on the Democrats enough here, I no longer identify as a Democrat. I hate the Democrats, I just happen to hate the GOP and Trump even more.

BTW, if I were fixated on Trump, wouldn't I be creating thread after thread about him? Yet you have way more threads hating on Democrats than I have of Trump, and it's not even close lol
:oldlol: ... lies

[TheMan]

:oldlol: ... lies

Both parties suck :confusedshrug:

[1987_Lakers]

So, supposedly the FBI is about to release the actual video footage of Epstein killing himself. His cell was under video surveillance.

I've always believed he was murdered. Obviously many people in high places would want him dead.

THAT SAID, he was also very much in situation that would call for suicide. I am sure he wanted to kill himself.

:roll:

Patel folded. Some powerful people got in his ear and probably threatened him. Very disappointed.

[Baller234]

For years they said there was no footage and all the security cameras malfunctioned, but now there's footage? If they had footage that showed he killed himself, why not just release that from the start?

Either:

- The powers that be threatened / compromised Patel and Bongino

- Trump is implicated and they are protecting him

- Someone is implicated that Trump is obligated to


This should be real interesting "footage".

[Doomsday Dallas]

Musk says Trump is named in Epstein files

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5335453-elon-musk-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-files/

[Off the Court]

It is very evident that Trump is mixed in a lot and they are trying to figure out how to work around that. Epstein said on the tapes "I was Donald Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

All of the Trumps are on his contact list.

First reply

[highwhey]

Musk says Trump is named in Epstein files

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5335453-elon-musk-donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-files/

i need a hans zimmer score for this

[Doomsday Dallas]

i need a hans zimmer score for this



https://c.tenor.com/YhJ8pM6KDecAAAAd/tenor.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjt1fCIR3MI

https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/elon-musk-messy-hero-GettyImages-1239416791.jpg

[Baller234]

So Elon knew Trump was on the client list the entire time and said nothing? Instead he campaigns on his behalf for months on end and acts like he's his best friend?

So what would have happened if the bill never passed? Elon would have just kept this a secret the whole time? Doesn't really reflect well on him either if you ask me.

Seeing Musk go from 0-100 like this in a matter of a few days is really making me think this is all a put on like WWE. :oldlol:

[TheMan]

So Elon knew Trump was on the client list the entire time and said nothing? Instead he campaigns on his behalf for months on end and acts like he's his best friend?

So what would have happened if the bill never passed? Elon would have just kept this a secret the whole time? Doesn't really reflect well on him either if you ask me.

Seeing Musk go from 0-100 like this in a matter of a few days is really making me think this is all a put on like WWE. :oldlol:

The elite put their economic interest above all else, please don't tell me you're this naive. When Trump didn't deliver on what Musk wanted, then a full scale war was inevitable.

Don't overthink it, comrade.

[Bill Gates]

Musk is eventually going to have to answer the question "how come you never said anything until now"?

Not only that, but obviously lots of people know and understand that is why the E list hasn't been released. If they were making attempts to hide Trump, that would mean jail time for them.

[highwhey]

So Elon knew Trump was on the client list the entire time and said nothing? Instead he campaigns on his behalf for months on end and acts like he's his best friend?

So what would have happened if the bill never passed? Elon would have just kept this a secret the whole time? Doesn't really reflect well on him either if you ask me.

Seeing Musk go from 0-100 like this in a matter of a few days is really making me think this is all a put on like WWE. :oldlol:

what a sad response. "my idol is being accused of being a pdf file, but how come they didn't reveal it earlier"

you are a sick and disgusting human being.

[Baller234]

what a sad response. "my idol is being accused of being a pdf file, but how come they didn't reveal it earlier"

you are a sick and disgusting human being.

I'm saying if it's true it reflects poorly on Elon *as well as* as Trump.

Basic comprehension skills my guy. Starting to think you were the kid in your class that ate the elmer's glue.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm saying if it's true it reflects poorly on Elon *as well as* as Trump.

Basic comprehension skills my guy. Starting to think you were the kid in your class that ate the elmer's glue.

Dude Elon is a piece of shit. Not saying this for sure true. But no one would be surprised that he hid this information as long as it was financially beneficial for him. That’s how these types of people (billionaires) operate..

[highwhey]

I'm saying if it's true it reflects poorly on Elon *as well as* as Trump.

Basic comprehension skills my guy. Starting to think you were the kid in your class that ate the elmer's glue.

considering the severity of the accusation, he may not have had evidence or any palpable way of proving it true. real life is not insidehoops where people log into alternate accounts and make baseless accusations simply because they dislike another person.

and you never said it reflects poorly on trump, not initially until i called you out.

[Baller234]

considering the severity of the accusation, he may not have had evidence or any palpable way of proving it true. real life is not insidehoops where people log into alternate accounts and make baseless accusations simply because they dislike another person.

and you never said it reflects poorly on trump, not initially until i called you out.

It was inferred you fukking moron.


So what would have happened if the bill never passed? Elon would have just kept this a secret the whole time? Doesn't really reflect well on him either if you ask me.

Are you familiar with what the word "either" means?

Put down the elmer's glue and stop posting you fukking retard.

[RRR3]

It was inferred you fukking moron.



Are you familiar with what the word "either" means?

Put down the elmer's glue and stop posting you fukking retard.
MELTDOWN :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Put down the elmer's glue and stop posting you fukking retard.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehe that was a good one.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Now Elon is calling for Trump to be impeached.

What a couple of bitches.

[Off the Court]

https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1932808686545567977

Candace Owens of all people, getting down to it. :applause:

[TheMan]

Trump ain't releasing the Epstein files, ever. He's a prominent figure in them, what did Epstein say...? We've been close friends for over 10 years or something to that effect. Also Trump admitting on video that his pal Epstein likes em on the younger side :lol

And Epstein "killed" himself while Trump was POTUS...how convenient.

[highwhey]

Trump ain't releasing the Epstein files, ever. He's a prominent figure in them, what did Epstein say...? We've been close friends for over 10 years or something to that effect. Also Trump admitting on video that his pal Epstein likes em on the younger side :lol

And Epstein "killed" himself while Trump was POTUS...how convenient.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Lakers Legend#32]

If the Epstein files did exonerate Trump from being a pedo, you know he would have released them by now and prove Elon is a liar.

The fact that Trump does not speaks volumes.

[Baller234]

I don't care who's named in the Epstein files. I wanna know who his clients were and who was playing footsies with underage teens.

Here is Trump talking about Epstein and his "cesspool" island back in 2015, even implicating Prince Andrew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0SuZQZGKqo

This video doesn't prove Trump's innocence but judging from his response here it would be pretty damn bold of him to start dropping names like that if he were just as guilty. Judging from his body language and his mannerisms he doesn't look like he's trying to hide anything. Plus you're talking about a guy who made enemies out of all the intelligence agencies and all the most powerful people in the world. If there was irrefutable proof that Trump visited the island or that he was a client, we 100% would have heard it by now.

Now if you told me someone close to him was a client, or that he was beholden to someone who was a client, that would surprise me a lot less.

[highwhey]

I don't care who's named in the Epstein files. I wanna know who his clients were and who was playing footsies with underage teens.

Here is Trump talking about Epstein and his "cesspool" island back in 2015, even implicating Prince Andrew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0SuZQZGKqo

This video doesn't prove Trump's innocence but judging from his response here it would be pretty damn bold of him to start dropping names like that if he were just as guilty. Judging from his body language and his mannerisms he doesn't look like he's trying to hide anything. Plus you're talking about a guy who made enemies out of all the intelligence agencies and all the most powerful people in the world. If there was irrefutable proof that Trump visited the island or that he was a client, we 100% would have heard it by now.

Now if you told me someone close to him was a client, or that he was beholden to someone who was a client, that would surprise me a lot less.
if he had nothing to hide, he would have forced patel's hand already.

[Doomsday Dallas]

if he had nothing to hide, he would have forced patel's hand already.


I'm gonna have to agree with you on this highwhey...

I don't think Elon was talking $hit just for the sake of it... Elon was betrayed, and in return betrayed Trump, and wasn't with a made-up lie.

[Baller234]

if he had nothing to hide, he would have forced patel's hand already.

Not if he's beholden to someone who's on the list.


I'm gonna have to agree with you on this highwhey...

I don't think Elon was talking $hit just for the sake of it... Elon was betrayed, and in return betrayed Trump, and wasn't with a made-up lie.

He said Trump's name appeared in the files. He didn't say to what degree or whether or not he was a client.

[RRR3]

Not if he's beholden to someone who's on the list.



He said Trump's name appeared in the files. He didn't say to what degree or whether or not he was a client.
How do you not realize how pathetic you sound? :oldlol:

Your hero is a pedo, deal with it.

[Baller234]

How do you not realize how pathetic you sound? :oldlol:

Your hero is a pedo, deal with it.

Sorry but "deal with it" doesn't prove anything.

Also worth mentioning that a pedophile is someone who has interactions with a prepubescent child, not an underage teen. So far nobody has accused Epstein or Maxwell of trafficking prepubescent children. The youngest victim we know of so far was 14. Unacceptable of course but that wouldn't technically make someone a pedophile.

As someone who's probably been accused of being a pedophile before, I'm shocked you don't know the difference.

[RRR3]

Sorry but "deal with it" doesn't prove anything.

Also worth mentioning that a pedophile is someone who has interactions with a prepubescent child, not an underage teen. So far nobody has accused Epstein or Maxwell of trafficking prepubescent children. The youngest victim we know of so far was 14. Unacceptable of course but that wouldn't technically make someone a pedophile.

As someone who's probably been accused of being a pedophile before, I'm shocked you don't know the difference.
So in your book Jeffrey Epstein, the guy famous for being a pedophile, isn't a pedophile just a guy who was "unacceptable"? Interesting. And then you turn around and accuse me because you're so sensitive about Trump. Relax, kid, I'm not accusing you, just the guy your boy Musk outed. Or is Musk bad now?

[Baller234]

So in your book Jeffrey Epstein, the guy famous for being a pedophile, isn't a pedophile just a guy who was "unacceptable"? Interesting. And then you turn around and accuse me because you're so sensitive about Trump. Relax, kid, I'm not accusing you, just the guy your boy Musk outed. Or is Musk bad now?

You really do have a brain the size of a rice krispy. That's not what I was inferring at all.

You accused Trump of being a pedophile. I was simply correcting your incorrect word usage. Epstein did not traffic any prepubescent children that we know of, therefore his clients wouldn't be considered pedophiles. You probably couldn't bribe the world's richest and most powerful men with children that young to begin with. Even on "To Catch A Predator" they never used children that young as bait because the pool of predators is extremely small.

Musk is not my boy, he is simply an ally for the time being. I don't fully trust any of them. That applies to Trump too. You keep acting like my world would be shattered if it ever came out that Trump was a child molester but it really wouldn't. I would be extremely disappointed of course but it's not like I would start questioning my life or regret voting for him. He would still be a great president just like OJ Simpson was still a great football player.

Trump might be Satan to you but he is not God to me. That's why you're vaccinated and I'm not.

[RRR3]

You really do have a brain the size of a rice krispy. That's not what I was inferring at all.

You accused Trump of being a pedophile. I was simply correcting your incorrect word usage. Epstein did not traffic any prepubescent children that we know of, therefore his clients wouldn't be considered pedophiles. You probably couldn't bribe the world's richest and most powerful men with children that young to begin with. Even on "To Catch A Predator" they never used children that young as bait because the pool of predators is extremely small.

Musk is not my boy, he is simply an ally for the time being. I don't fully trust any of them. That applies to Trump too. You keep acting like my world would be shattered if it ever came out that Trump was a child molester but it really wouldn't. I would be extremely disappointed of course but it's not like I would start questioning my life or regret voting for him. He would still be a great president just like OJ Simpson was still a great football player.

Trump might be Satan to you but he is not God to me. That's why you're vaccinated and I'm not.
You know full well everyone refers to Epstein as a pedophile, I'm not sure why you're pretending otherwise. From his wikipedia page:


On August 23, 2019, the prosecutor's office in Paris, France, opened a preliminary investigation into Epstein, after Yael Mellul wrote to the Paris prosecutor to report the international dimensions of the pedophile network involving Jeffrey Epstein, criticizing the slow pace of justice.[147]

I'm acting as if your world would be shattered because you're engaging in denial when plenty of other conservatives (including Doomsday Dallas) have acknowledged Trump seems to be a child predator.

[Baller234]

You know full well everyone refers to Epstein as a pedophile, I'm not sure why you're pretending otherwise. From his wikipedia page:



I'm acting as if your world would be shattered because you're engaging in denial when plenty of other conservatives (including Doomsday Dallas) have acknowledged Trump seems to be a child predator.

How am I engaging in denial? Nothing has been proven whatsoever. Even if Musk wasn't lying or trolling, which he very well could have been, all he said was that Trump's name appeared in the files. He never said he was on Epstein's client list or that he took trips to the island. Otherwise his name could appear in the files for any number of reasons.

I wasn't referring to Epstein being a pedo, I was talking about his clients. It's not feasible to me that if there really was some grand scheme to blackmail powerful men that they would use 8-9 year olds as bait. That's an awfully big gamble.

[RRR3]

How am I engaging in denial? Nothing has been proven whatsoever. Even if Musk wasn't lying or trolling, which he very well could have been, all he said was that Trump's name appeared in the files. He never said he was on Epstein's client list or that he took trips to the island. Otherwise his name could appear in the files for any number of reasons.

I wasn't referring to Epstein being a pedo, I was talking about his clients. It's not feasible to me that if there really was some grand scheme to blackmail powerful men that they would use 8-9 year olds as bait. That's an awfully big gamble.
Maybe Musk was lying or trolling, but it's pretty obvious he meant the list wasn't being released because it would greatly hurt Trump. You can do the math. Musk isn't trustworthy so you would normally have a point there but I remember you being very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before this so.

[Baller234]

Maybe Musk was lying or trolling, but it's pretty obvious he meant the list wasn't being released because it would greatly hurt Trump. You can do the math. Musk isn't trustworthy so you would normally have a point there but I remember you being very willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before this so.

Time to drop the really big bomb. @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!

That was the tweet. Looks like he was very careful choosing his words if you ask me. "Trump is in the Epstein files" could mean any number of things. If he really had that kind of knowledge he could have been far more descriptive.

Do you think Musk even has access to that kind of information? If Musk knows exactly who Epstein's clients were and could prove it, why hasn't he?

[RRR3]

Time to drop the really big bomb. @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT!

That was the tweet. Looks like he was very careful choosing his words if you ask me. "Trump is in the Epstein files" could mean any number of things. If he really had that kind of knowledge he could have been far more descriptive.

Do you think Musk even has access to that kind of information? If Musk knows exactly who Epstein's clients were and could prove it, why hasn't he?
How would I know what Musk had access to? But he was in Trump's inner circle and had security clearance for a lot of stuff so would it shocked you if he read the files? How is Musk going to prove it if he doesn't have the files himself? Maybe Musk is lying, but you'd think Trump would just release them to shut him up if that were the case.

[Baller234]

How would I know what Musk had access to? But he was in Trump's inner circle and had security clearance for a lot of stuff so would it shocked you if he read the files? How is Musk going to prove it if he doesn't have the files himself? Maybe Musk is lying, but you'd think Trump would just release them to shut him up if that were the case.

Trump wouldn't release them if he was beholden to someone on the list.

[RRR3]

Trump wouldn't release them if he was beholden to someone on the list.
Who is Trump beholden to?

[Baller234]

Who is Trump beholden to?

I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to say the word "Epstein" around democrats.

Who was Brandon covering for?

[RRR3]

I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to say the word "Epstein" around democrats.

Who was Brandon covering for?
Probably himself as well as Bill Clinton. You really thought I was gonna be afraid to admit that lol? I know those guys are predators (since you don't like the term pedophile)

[Baller234]

Probably himself as well as Bill Clinton. You really thought I was gonna be afraid to admit that lol? I know those guys are predators (since you don't like the term pedophile)

Not at all. That wasn't a "gotcha", it was a rhetorical question.

I'm saying you don't have to be an Epstein client in order to cover for an Epstein client.

[Bill Gates]

Left minded posters when Baller talks about Brandon:

https://media.tenor.com/WBSt2gcsNVMAAAAM/we-dont-care.gif

[highwhey]

anyone know?

https://media.tenor.com/kVrGzZGZnUUAAAAM/pulp-fiction-wtf.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

I wish I knew, but if he's obstructing the release of the files it means either he's implicated or someone he's beholden to is implicated.

Look at Brandon. As far as I know not a single person ever accused him of being an Epstein client yet during his entire tenure as president he made zero effort to uncover that stone. You weren't even allowed to say the word "Epstein" around democrats.

Who was Brandon covering for?

The third option is that there is a former President (Bill Clinton) on that list and other high-powered people on that list and Trump is either being instructed not to release it or realizes the level of damage it will do if it's released and chooses not to have it released. I'm thinking there are a lot more Democrats on that list than there are Republicans and a lot of leaders from other countries too. The fallout might be worse than just never releasing it and just realizing that Epstein took the coward's way out. For some reason, Maxwell is still in prison and hasn't had a deal offered yet. Maybe there is no list. Maybe she doesn't know shit.

[RRR3]

The third option is that there is a former President (Bill Clinton) on that list and other high-powered people on that list and Trump is either being instructed not to release it or realizes the level of damage it will do if it's released and chooses not to have it released. I'm thinking there are a lot more Democrats on that list than there are Republicans and a lot of leaders from other countries too. The fallout might be worse than just never releasing it and just realizing that Epstein took the coward's way out. For some reason, Maxwell is still in prison and hasn't had a deal offered yet. Maybe there is no list. Maybe she doesn't know shit.
Why would Trump care about hurting Democrats?

[Off the Court]

Why would Trump care about hurting Democrats?

Come on man, you don't buy the theory that Trump has decided to leave himself in question in order to save the country from the insane damage caused by knowing Bill Clinton, who was in office 25 years ago and kicked out for a blow job, was on the Epstein list?

Imagine the chaos that would cause.

[Off the Court]

All the backflips, somersaults, and 1080 McTwists that MAGA is doing is hilarious :roll:

Trump is in like 800 pictures with Epstein, every Trump family member can be found on flight logs and his phone number book. They are known buddies. Trump has a history of cheating on his wife. And now we have his good buddy Elon Musk flat out saying that he is on the list. And still they are like "he's trying to save Bill Clinton" :oldlol:




Here is the REAL situation. The question is no longer "is Trump on there?" The question is now: "Does MAGA care that Trump is on there?"

And I think for most of MAGA, the answer to that question is "NO".

[highwhey]

All the backflips, somersaults, and 1080 McTwists that MAGA is doing is hilarious :roll:

Trump is in like 800 pictures with Epstein, every Trump family member can be found on flight logs and his phone number book. They are known buddies. Trump has a history of cheating on his wife. And now we have his good buddy Elon Musk flat out saying that he is on the list. And still they are like "he's trying to save Bill Clinton" :oldlol:




Here is the REAL situation. The question is no longer "is Trump on there?" The question is now: "Does MAGA care that Trump is on there?"

And I think for most of MAGA, the answer to that question is "NO".

there's nothing about trump that would make MAGA lose love for him. he's a confirmed PDF, not even a rumor but actually confirmed, he's a liar, thieve, cheats on his wife with prostitutes, terrible businessman, horrible negotiator, walks back on his word, disrespects the military, disrespects even his own voter base...and not one inch of lost love.

that's a cult.

[Patrick Chewing]

Why would Trump care about hurting Democrats?


Because the media would spin it as the Trump administration going after his political enemies. Let's face it, politicians in this country are a protected class. I'm not saying I wouldn't love seeing Democrats behind bars, but in this upside down and crazy world, it may actually backfire on Trump.

But **** it, let the Democrats burn. They are terrible people.

[highwhey]

Because the media would spin it as the Trump administration going after his political enemies. Let's face it, politicians in this country are a protected class. I'm not saying I wouldn't love seeing Democrats behind bars, but in this upside down and crazy world, it may actually backfire on Trump.

But **** it, let the Democrats burn. They are terrible people.

he already has begun doing that. he's allowing a florida sheriff to tell people its ok to run over protestors LMAO.

he's also threatening people that protest on his birthday. didn't he also say there would be grave consequences for elon if he funded liberals?

[BurningHammer]

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

The cover-up has completed. :ohwell:

[RRR3]

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/07/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-trump-administration

The cover-up has completed. :ohwell:
Let's hear the MAGA excuse for this :yaohappy:

[BurningHammer]

https://i.ibb.co/RpM0r614/fmFgT5t.png

[BurningHammer]

https://dims.apnews.com/dims4/default/3be1fab/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4746x2670+0+247/resize/1440x810!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.apnews.com%2F23%2F2c%2Fe 7177d822d1ac766baa48feda40b%2F9139091dfef34421ab4b 3855e4208c4f

So this was all bullshit. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

MAGA awfully quiet in here

[BurningHammer]

can we all agree that pam bondi is full of shit?

https://thehill.com/homenews/5158153-jeffrey-epstein-client-list-bondi-review/

Yes, she is.

[Off the Court]

MAGA awfully quiet in here

MAGA Homer Simpson backing up into the bushes.

[BurningHammer]

https://i.redd.it/cys1sxteefbf1.png

:roll:

[Off the Court]

Earlier I said it is no longer a question of if Trump did anything, it is now a question of weather or not his base cares. And most of them do not care. They know Trump f@#ked a child, but they will still defend him to the death.



Pam Bondi originally said the entire reason it's all been taking so long is because there is a ton of video footage, and a lot of it is very graphic. And they don't want to throw stuff out that could damage the lives of the young women that were more or less sex slaves. And with that said, they probably came across video footage of Trump.

SEEING is a really huge difference for most. If George Floyds death wasn't on video, the riots don't happen. And if they released Trump having sex with a minor? That would be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for most.

[highwhey]

so indefensible that even baller isn't trying to spin this :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.redd.it/cys1sxteefbf1.png

:roll:

So why doesn't this "Matt Wallace" tell us what he saw.

:roll:

[diamenz]

They know Trump f@#ked a child, but they will still defend him to the death.





you dont know that. it's all speculation at this point. his name on that list could mean anything. it's certainly not a good look though. it's not Trump in particular that's being protected. it's other wealthy, notably famous people. we'll never see the list.

[Off the Court]

you dont know that. it's all speculation at this point. his name on that list could mean anything. it's certainly not a good look though. it's not Trump in particular that's being protected. it's other wealthy, notably famous people. we'll never see the list.
The evidence is way too overwhelming now.

A. Gov declares they do have lots of stuff, including video footage
B. They take forever going through it
C. Musk confirms Trump is in there
D. Gov SUDDENLY declares there is nothing :oldlol:

Even without all that, we have Epstein declaring him and Trump are best buds, and proof of Trump f@#king prostitutes while married. You'd have to be the most gullible f@#k ever to think Trump is innocent here.

[Baller234]

My guess is that whoever has the evidence or the list of clients is purposely withholding it.

If you had that kind of leverage and blackmail over the world's most powerful people, why would you ever give that up? What good are those people to you if they're rotting in jail?

For all we know the list is collateral. It could be the only thing keeping Trump alive.

[Off the Court]

My guess is that whoever has the evidence or the list of clients is purposely withholding it.

If you had that kind of leverage and blackmail over the world's most powerful people, why would you ever give that up? What good are those people to you if they're rotting in jail?

For all we know the list is collateral. It could be the only thing keeping Trump alive.

Trump f@#ked a minor

sorry

They are withholding it because the entire Admin would implode over it

[Baller234]

The evidence is way too overwhelming now.

A. Gov declares they do have lots of stuff, including video footage
B. They take forever going through it
C. Musk confirms Trump is in there
D. Gov SUDDENLY declares there is nothing :oldlol:

Even without all that, we have Epstein declaring him and Trump are best buds, and proof of Trump f@#king prostitutes while married. You'd have to be the most gullible f@#k ever to think Trump is innocent here.

This is not the first time you've mentioned this. This is such a strange take. A wealthy and powerful man cheats on his wife with a porn actress, and that alone is all the justification you need to label him the scum of the Earth? THAT'S your evidence?

Are you a virgin? Seriously asking.

[Baller234]

Trump f@#ked a minor

sorry

They are withholding it because the entire Admin would implode over it

You're free to believe whatever you want.

After all the man did cheat on his wife with a porn actress like you said. God knows what other horrific crimes the man is guilty of.

[Off the Court]

You're free to believe whatever you want.

After all the man did cheat on his wife with a porn actress like you said. God knows what other horrific crimes the man is guilty of.

Probably f@#king under aged prostitutes with his very good buddy Epstein. :confusedshrug:

I mean, it's all played out there for us. :oldlol:



We can pretend it's all just nothing though

[Baller234]

Probably f@#king under aged prostitutes with his very good buddy Epstein. :confusedshrug:

I mean, it's all played out there for us. :oldlol:



We can pretend it's all just nothing though

All we can do is pretend because we don't have proof or evidence.

At this point we can presume one of the following:

- Trump is implicated
- Trump is obligated to someone implicated
- Trump or whoever has the evidence doesn't want it released for some other political purpose

All 3 have sensible explanations.

[RRR3]

bawler DESPERATELY trying to convince himself his hero is innocent

[Baller234]

bawler DESPERATELY trying to convince himself his hero is innocent

More like you're desperately trying to convince yourself he's guilty.

I already said it's possible that he's guilty and that he's implicated in the Epstein stuff, what more do you want from me? 100% committal? Sorry but you don't have any proof for that. All you're doing is speculating like everyone else.

I could speculate that you m@sturbate 6 times a day, but I don't have proof of that. It's just one theory.

[warriorfan]

Imagine thinking about Donald Trump having sex with underage girls all day (while praying that it’s true and really happened)






:crazysam:


Nice lives homies

:roll:

[diamenz]

Trump f@#ked a minor

sorry

They are withholding it because the entire Admin would implode over it

you want that to be the case so bad don't you? that would make your life, wouldn't it? you could drop dead on that note and to you it'd be a life well lived.

[warriorfan]

you want that to be the case so bad don't you? that would make your life, wouldn't it? you could drop dead on that note and to you it'd be a life well lived.

Swear to god Off The Court would rather a real little girl have gotten raped rather than it being an inane rumor, if it came at the price he could vent about his shitty life in the form of raging out vs Donald Trump on an internet forum.

These are very sick individuals we are dealing with. May Jesus help them all.

[Off the Court]

Musk: "Trump is on the Epstein list"
DOJ: "We can't show you the Epstein list"
Epstein: "Me and Trump were best friends"
ISH MAGA: :cry: "YOU JUST WISH IT WERE TRUE!!!" :rant:cry:


:roll:



IT


IS


TRUE


and everyone knows it, even you

[Off the Court]

https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1942068198557335825



So apparently FOX cut off after "Yes I would" and ignored the part where Trump shows us all how guilty he is. :oldlol:

[Baller234]

https://x.com/BlueATLGeorgia/status/1942068198557335825



So apparently FOX cut off after "Yes I would" and ignored the part where Trump shows us all how guilty he is. :oldlol:

Holy shit, this guy is legitimately mentally handicapped.

The clip you are referring to where it's "cut off" was not the initial airing. That was a recap for Fox & Friends.

The original interview that you posted where he backtracks DID air on Fox News. There was no effort to hide it. Here is an extremely unfunny left wing comedian talking it about it on The Daily Show.

https://x.com/TheDailyShow/status/1798370022840046024

In the Israel WW3 overreaction thread I even referenced this exact interview. This is not news.

This doesn't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump himself was implicated in the underrage girl stuff. All it means is that he's trying to cover it up. It doesn't mean that he himself is implicated.

Trump hasn't been the only one to cover it up. Biden and Harris also tried to cover it up. They wouldn't even pay it lip service. Doesn't mean they were involved.

Trump could be implicated, it's definitely a possibility, but he also could just be covering it up. Politically there could be plenty of reasons for that.

Like I said you're free to believe what you want, it's not like facts have ever changed your mind to begin with.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Even if it was proven Trump ****ed minors, the MAGAS would still not believe it.

[1987_Lakers]

I like what Trump has done so far, but he deserves a big fat F on the Epstein files.

[Patrick Chewing]

MaxFly aka Off the Court is so unhinged. He wants there to be a conspiracy so bad. I already told ya. There are only two possibilities here. There actually is no list and no proof of who was there and who had sex with who. Or......the list is huge and full of powerful people from all over the world that the fallout would be too big to ever recover from. So who benefits from the list being revealed? Some of these girls are known to no one and the only one that the public knew about just killed herself. So the question is, is the fallout from the scandal more beneficial than saying there is no list at all? And I don't think it is. I think it does so much damage to those in powerful positions that it takes down corporations, government officials from all over the world, etc. So if there is a list, it's better just to bury it. I'm always struck by how defensive Bill Gates gets during the interview where they ask him about his relationship with Epstein. He squirms in his chair and looks so uncomfortable. And his wife divorces him shortly after it's revealed and made public that he was on Epstein's plane and was good friends with him.

But Max is so stupid that he's solely focused on Trump.

[Baller234]

MaxFly aka Off the Court is so unhinged. He wants there to be a conspiracy so bad. I already told ya. There are only two possibilities here. There actually is no list and no proof of who was there and who had sex with who. Or......the list is huge and full of powerful people from all over the world that the fallout would be too big to ever recover from. So who benefits from the list being revealed? Some of these girls are known to no one and the only one that the public knew about just killed herself. So the question is, is the fallout from the scandal more beneficial than saying there is no list at all? And I don't think it is. I think it does so much damage to those in powerful positions that it takes down corporations, government officials from all over the world, etc. So if there is a list, it's better just to bury it. I'm always struck by how defensive Bill Gates gets during the interview where they ask him about his relationship with Epstein. He squirms in his chair and looks so uncomfortable. And his wife divorces him shortly after it's revealed and made public that he was on Epstein's plane and was good friends with him.

But Max is so stupid that he's solely focused on Trump.

I subscribe to the theory that the information is too valuable to give up.

[diamenz]

bet your last $ chucky schumer is on that list. that guy just reeks pedoph!le.

[Off the Court]

Baller and Chewing, what would each of you say the ODDS are that Trump is on the list?

10%, 50%, 90% ?

0% ?

He was best friends with Epstein, he already taken the step of f@#king prostitutes, and Elon Musk SAID he is on the list.

[Off the Court]

I have to say, this whole thing has given me respect for Candace Owens.

https://x.com/RealCandaceO/status/1932808686545567977

I agree with her rarely, and I think she says dumb shit all the time, but at least she has the balls the go straight for the Elephant in the room. America needs to know. If Trump is pedo she is prepared to man-up and own it. She is prepared to denounce him. She is prepared to call him out. What happened to the free speech crowd who demands the truth?

The rest of you don't want to know the truth. YOU'RE SCARED OF IT. Now suddenly "It's probably better off kept secret, the fallout is too much" :facepalm

[Baller234]

Baller and Chewing, what would each of you say the ODDS are that Trump is on the list?

10%, 50%, 90% ?

0% ?

He was best friends with Epstein, he already taken the step of f@#king prostitutes, and Elon Musk SAID he is on the list.

Well I already outlined 3 plausible scenarios so I would say there is a 33.3% chance he's on the list and a 66.6% chance he's obligated to someone on the list or covering it up for some other political purpose.

But again, I have to wonder why you're so hyper focused on Trump banging prostitutes. That seems like a very weird thing to fixate on yet you keep fixating on it.

[Off the Court]

Well I already outlined 3 plausible scenarios so I would say there is a 33.3% chance he's on the list and a 66.6% chance he's obligated to someone on the list or covering it up for some other political purpose.

But again, I have to wonder why you're so hyper focused on Trump banging prostitutes. That seems like a very weird thing to fixate on yet you keep fixating on it.

Because that is what was on Epstein Island. :oldlol: Prostitutes. Some under aged, some not. That is what they did. They went to his island and banged whores. In fact I would bet that Stormy was introduced to Trump through Epstein. And Stormy is just the one we know about.

Chewing mentioned Bill Gates, and if Gates had a history of soliciting prostitutes, that would absolutely make me more suspicious of him.

I do not think that most married men would sleep with a whore while married. But of the ones that do? I think their odds are much greater of sleeping with an under-age whore. They already did the gate-way drug.

[Baller234]

Because that is what was on Epstein Island. :oldlol: Prostitutes. Some under aged, some not. That is what they did. They went to his island and banged whores. In fact I would bet that Stormy was introduced to Trump through Epstein. And Stormy is just the one we know about.

Chewing mentioned Bill Gates, and if Gates had a history of soliciting prostitutes, that would absolutely make me more suspicious of him.

I do not think that most married men would sleep with a whore while married. But of the ones that do? I think their odds are much greater of sleeping with an under-age whore. They already did the gate-way drug.

There is currently zero evidence that Trump ever visited the island though.

Flight logs and court documents confirm that Trump flew on Epstein’s private jet 7 times between 1993 and 1997, primarily between Palm Beach and New York. Some trips included family members like Marla Maples, Tiffany Trump and Eric Trump.

Those logs never indicated any trips to Little St. James.

[Baller234]

I do not think that most married men would sleep with a whore while married. But of the ones that do? I think their odds are much greater of sleeping with an under-age whore. They already did the gate-way drug.

^ This is a really strange fukking leap to take. :oldlol:

Men don't cheat on their wives? They don't bang whores?

You know you're describing half the players in the NBA right? I guess they're all banging underrage teens on the regular too?

[Off the Court]

There is currently zero evidence that Trump ever visited the island though.

Flight logs and court documents confirm that Trump flew on Epstein’s private jet 7 times between 1993 and 1997, primarily between Palm Beach and New York. Some trips included family members like Marla Maples, Tiffany Trump and Eric Trump.

Those logs never indicated any trips to Little St. James.

The DOJ has the evidence that now suddenly "doesn't exist". Look, Trump was besties with Epstein. They were very close. I'm sorry man but you're going to need to come to grips with the fact that Trump probably slept with an under-age girl on his island.

That is why Musk threw it out there when upset. He can see the writing on the wall. He knows 1+1=2.

[Off the Court]

^ This is a really strange fukking leap to take. :oldlol:

Men don't cheat on their wives? They don't bang whores?

You know you're describing half the players in the NBA right? I guess they're all banging underrage teens on the regular too?

I didn't say they don't. I said of "of the ones that do? I think their odds are much greater of sleeping with an under-age whore. They already did the gate-way drug."

If any of those NBA players that sleep with whores were really close to Epstein? Then yeah they are sus. Obviously :oldlol:

[j3lademaster]

I like what Trump has done so far, but he deserves a big fat F on the Epstein files.

You serious? Giving ICE the power to enter homes without a warrant, atrocious environmental policies, BBB funneling more money to billionaires… you can’t be serious. If his term ended NOW he’d be considered the most detrimental president ever.

[Baller234]

The DOJ has the evidence that now suddenly "doesn't exist". Look, Trump was besties with Epstein. They were very close. I'm sorry man but you're going to need to come to grips with the fact that Trump probably slept with an under-age girl on his island.

That is why Musk threw it out there when upset. He can see the writing on the wall. He knows 1+1=2.

You keep insisting they were "besties". Wtf is that even supposed to mean. For close to a year Trump and Elon seemed like besties. They appeared everywhere together. Now they're fighting. That's the world these people live in. They're bound by mutual interests, not true friendship.

But okay I'll play along. If Musk had this kind of dirt over Trump and was willing to use it against him in public, why does Trump keep going back at him? Why does he keep calling him out and making threats on Truth Social? Shouldn't he be afraid?

Does Trump have a death wish?

[Baller234]

I didn't say they don't. I said of "of the ones that do? I think their odds are much greater of sleeping with an under-age whore. They already did the gate-way drug."

If any of those NBA players that sleep with whores were really close to Epstein? Then yeah they are sus. Obviously :oldlol:

So sleeping with a whore is "halfway" to sleeping with an underrage teen?

You're a weirdo bro. :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

So sleeping with a whore is "halfway" to sleeping with an underrage teen?

You're a weirdo bro. :oldlol:

Someone who sleeps with a prostitutes is more likely to sleep with an under-aged prostitute. That is what was on Epstein island. Under-aged prostitutes. And adult ones as well. That is what these people did, they slept with prostitutes. So obviously sleeping with one hints a certain direction.

Not sure why you quoted "halfway" though? I didn't say that.

[Off the Court]

Honestly just being good buddies with Epstein is enough evidence. :oldlol:

I mean, it's right there in front of your face. If you don't at least consider it plausible then you are in the cult.

[Baller234]

Honestly just being good buddies with Epstein is enough evidence. :oldlol:

I mean, it's right there in front of your face. If you don't at least consider it plausible then you are in the cult.

I already said it's plausible. I'm not sure what more you want.

Being "buddies" with Epstein isn't proof of anything though. If Epstein was truly a spy whose job it was to get close to powerful people, that doesn't mean each and every one of them was baited using underage girls. You can't just assume that ALL of them are going to go for that. He likely had other illegal or shady operations going on too. I'm sure some people were bribed with money or god knows what. So no, having business ties to Epstein doesn't automatically mean you were visiting the island and playing footsies with teens.

To give you a real life example, I used to work with this guy when I was in my 20's. He was older in his 40's. Funny guy. Mostly everyone in the office knew him and was friendly with him. Turns out he was living a double life as a discount Bernie Madoff. He went to jail for scheming investors and stealing like $700k. I used to laugh with this guy all the time, talked to him almost daily for like a year, went golfing with him once... never once guessed that he was a criminal.

[Off the Court]

Yes you said it is plausible, big step in the correct direction I suppose. Now, I want you to tell me what it would do to your support of Trump if you found out it was in fact true.

Because if you like - for really real - thought this is plausible. You wouldn't be defending Trump up on a hill right now. You'd take a step back (like others are doing) and think about what this really means to you.

[Baller234]

Yes you said it is plausible, big step in the correct direction I suppose. Now, I want you to tell me what it would do to your support of Trump if you found out it was in fact true.

Because if you like - for really real - thought this is plausible. You wouldn't be defending Trump up on a hill right now. You'd take a step back (like others are doing) and think about what this really means to you.

Do you know what plausible means? It's plausible that you were dropped on your head as a kid, but that doesn't mean it's 100% true.

I think it's plausible that Trump could be guilty but I would guess that he isn't. I think he could have other reasons for wanting to keep that information concealed. I also think that if the intelligence agencies had Trump dead to rights this entire time, we would have heard about it by now.

I've talked about this before on here. If it came out that he was guilty I would be extremely disappointed and I would think a lot of less of him as a human being, but it's not like I would be regretting my support or anything. I'm still proud to have voted for him. OJ Simpson was a murderer but he was still a great running back, you can't take that away from him. Trump turning out to be a sick perv wouldn't change the fact that he's been a great president.

[Off the Court]

I know what plausible means. It's plausible Bill Clinton is on the list. And if it is shown he slept with children? Put him in front of a firing squad. F@#K him. If Hillary knew? Throw her in there as well. If Biden is guilty? Electric chair.

A line should be drawn at f@#king kids. You should be willing to take an L in tribal politics for that.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Trump to Bondi: Just say the list doesn't exist. MAGAS are dumber than shit. They will believe you.

[Lakers Legend#32]

NO F*CKING WAY:

Trump just leapt in to stop a reporter from asking Pam Bondi about the “missing minute” in the Epstein jailhouse tape.

The panic was visible.
You’d think they were being asked about national security secrets, not a dead sex trafficker with no clients, no tapes, and no list.

Ask yourself this: If there’s nothing to hide, why the full-blown scramble whenever someone brings up Epstein’s name?

[Off the Court]

NO F*CKING WAY:

Trump just leapt in to stop a reporter from asking Pam Bondi about the “missing minute” in the Epstein jailhouse tape.

The panic was visible.
You’d think they were being asked about national security secrets, not a dead sex trafficker with no clients, no tapes, and no list.

Ask yourself this: If there’s nothing to hide, why the full-blown scramble whenever someone brings up Epstein’s name?

https://x.com/Acyn/status/1942621465041653950

There it is.

"Are you still talking about Epstein? Unbelievable."

:oldlol:

His admin were the ones making such a big deal out of releasing so many secrets, dancing around and celebrating it like they are finally going to release the truth to everyone. Now suddenly when asked about Epstein isn't worth talking about?

[Off the Court]

Elon Musk is now pressing the media to continue asking Trump about Epstein

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1942649697640014064

Elon has also announced that Steve Bannon is on the Epstein list.

This one was unprovoked and I am now thinking that Elon has in fact looked over the Epstein stuff.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zufs604K648

[Baller234]

I know what plausible means. It's plausible Bill Clinton is on the list. And if it is shown he slept with children? Put him in front of a firing squad. F@#K him. If Hillary knew? Throw her in there as well. If Biden is guilty? Electric chair.

A line should be drawn at f@#king kids. You should be willing to take an L in tribal politics for that.

This is rich coming from you knowing full well that every single democrat was afraid to even say the word "Epstein" out loud.

So what, you weren't suspicious this entire time? NOW you're married to deeply held principles because you suspect Trump is covering it up this time and not the democrats?

Obama, Hillary, Biden, Harris... how many combined interviews and press events have they done over the last 6 years? How many times were they asked about Epstein? More importantly, how come you weren't bothered by this in real time?

[highwhey]

anyone know?

https://media.tenor.com/kVrGzZGZnUUAAAAM/pulp-fiction-wtf.gif

???

[Off the Court]

This is rich coming from you knowing full well that every single democrat was afraid to even say the word "Epstein" out loud.

So what, you weren't suspicious this entire time? NOW you're married to deeply held principles because you suspect Trump is covering it up this time and not the democrats?

Obama, Hillary, Biden, Harris... how many combined interviews and press events have they done over the last 6 years? How many times were they asked about Epstein? More importantly, how come you weren't bothered by this in real time?

Obama Hillary Biden and Harris have never been accused, and Elon Musk never flat out said they are on the list.

We know that Hillary and Kamala weren't raping girls on Epstein island, because they are females. Obama and Biden have not been accused.

Bill Clinton is the one that is actually plausible. And he was kicked out of the White House for getting a BJ, cheating on his wife. I 100% would not be shocked one bit if Bill is on there. And again, if he is? Throw him in front of a firing squad. If Hillary knew and kept quiet? Throw her in there too. I will condemn them and say that everyone who pointed at them was right.

But here is the deal, Trump is POTUS now. I'm sorry that puts a damper on being able able to point at Dems, but the Dems are gone and Trump is going to get the bulk of attention because of that. It is the price one pays for being the sitting POTUS. And he is the one on the hot seat right now.

[Off the Court]

It doesn't look like Musk is going to take his foot off the gas pedal with this one either. He is trying to form a new political party, the "American Party", it it looks to me like he is going to use the Epstein list as leverage for that. Hoping to steal Trump's votes.

Musk better be careful though, because if he is going to talk that shit, he better be ready to tell us all what he knows.

[highwhey]

It doesn't look like Musk is going to take his foot off the gas pedal with this one either. He is trying to form a new political party, the "American Party", it it looks to me like he is going to use the Epstein list as leverage for that. Hoping to steal Trump's votes.

Musk better be careful though, because if he is going to talk that shit, he better be ready to tell us all what he knows.

MUSK is gonna get FAAGD (FVCK AROUND AND GET DEPORTED)

[Baller234]

Obama Hillary Biden and Harris have never been accused, and Elon Musk never flat out said they are on the list.

We know that Hillary and Kamala weren't raping girls on Epstein island, because they are females. Obama and Biden have not been accused.

Bill Clinton is the one that is actually plausible. And he was kicked out of the White House for getting a BJ, cheating on his wife. I 100% would not be shocked one bit if Bill is on there. And again, if he is? Throw him in front of a firing squad. If Hillary knew and kept quiet? Throw her in there too. I will condemn them and say that everyone who pointed at them was right.

But here is the deal, Trump is POTUS now. I'm sorry that puts a damper on being able able to point at Dems, but the Dems are gone and Trump is going to get the bulk of attention because of that. It is the price one pays for being the sitting POTUS. And he is the one on the hot seat right now.

This is a total cop out.

It doesn't matter if those individuals were never accused, the fact is they went out of their way to cover it up. Epstein was killed in 2019 and from the get go mostly everyone was extremely suspicious. "Epstein didn't kill himself" was a trending meme for like 2 years.

The republicans paid it lip service at the very least and it was a constant running gag on Fox News. Even Don Jr. made countless jokes and insinuations about Epstein. And while I'm not thrilled about this sudden reverse course, at least the republicans talked about it and made it part of their campaign. "We're coming for the Epstein clients" turned out to be a lie but at least they sparked public discussion and raised questions. Yet despite the rumors and speculation being out there for a long time, the democrats never went near it once. Biden and Kamala had four years in office without ever having to take a single question on it.

So how come you weren't this mad when the democrats were the ones covering it up? It seems like you're only willing to throw the democrats under the bus NOW because you have the opportunity to throw Trump under the bus too and that's what's most important to you. But for years you were perfectly fine running cover for them knowing full well the same rumors were out there.

So what changed? Because Orange Face is president now?

Color me surprised.

[Off the Court]

This is a total cop out.

It doesn't matter if those individuals were never accused, the fact is they went out of their way to cover it up. Epstein was killed in 2019 and from the get go mostly everyone was extremely suspicious. "Epstein didn't kill himself" was a trending meme for like 2 years.

The republicans paid it lip service at the very least and it was a constant running gag on Fox News. Even Don Jr. made countless jokes and insinuations about Epstein. And while I'm not thrilled about this sudden reverse course, at least the republicans talked about it and made it part of their campaign. "We're coming for the Epstein clients" turned out to be a lie but at least they sparked public discussion and raised questions. Yet despite the rumors and speculation being out there for a long time, the democrats never went near it once. Biden and Kamala had four years in office without ever having to take a single question on it.

So how come you weren't this mad when the democrats were the ones covering it up? It seems like you're only willing to throw the democrats under the bus NOW because you have the opportunity to throw Trump under the bus too and that's what's most important to you. But for years you were perfectly fine running cover for them knowing full well the same rumors were out there.

So what changed? Because Orange Face is president now?

Color me surprised.

I just said if Bill Clinton is accused we can execute him. I would have said that back then too.

This is a different ball game now, no one was talking about this at all with Trump until Musk decided to pop in and declare that Trump is on the list. The GOP paraded around releasing it and now have backtracked. These are major events that have put a huge spotlight on the whole situation that didn't exist back then. But the fact that you are again pointing backwards to avoid the present lets me know you have no real answer for Trump.

[Baller234]

I just said if Bill Clinton is accused we can execute him. I would have said that back then too.

This is a different ball game now, no one was talking about this at all with Trump until Musk decided to pop in and declare that Trump is on the list. The GOP paraded around releasing it and now have backtracked. These are major events that have put a huge spotlight on the whole situation that didn't exist back then. But the fact that you are again pointing backwards to avoid the present lets me know you have no real answer for Trump.

But you weren't saying this back then. You said nothing back then. You said nothing for 6 years.

Epstein died in 2019. You saw who remained silent and who was afraid to go near it. You heard the rumors and heard who was implicated. Where were your deeply held principles then? How come there was zero effort from your side to apply pressure and get to the truth? Where was all this gusto?

I'm pointing "backwards" and reminding of you this only to show you how hypocritical and full of shit you are.

[Off the Court]

But you weren't saying this back then. You said nothing back then. You said nothing for 6 years.

Epstein died in 2019. You saw who remained silent and who was afraid to go near it. You heard the rumors and heard who was implicated. Where were your deeply held principles then? How come there was zero effort from your side to apply pressure and get to the truth? Where was all this gusto?

I'm pointing "backwards" and reminding of you this only to show you how hypocritical and full of shit you are.

Trying to find angles to make one a hypocrite is all you got and all this "selective outrage" is really on you anyway. I can't even imagine what you'd be doing if this were Biden or some other Dem.

Why aren't you condemning Trump like you did everyone else? Why aren't you yelling "lock him up"? Why weren't you making excuses for Bill Clinton like you are for Trump?

You and your party paraded around Epstein and demanded the list and now that it's here? You're terrified. You got what you asked for.

[Off the Court]

MAGA 2020-2025: "WE DEMAND THE EPSTEIN LIST!!!!! DEMOCRATS ARE GUILTY!!!!!!"

****BREAKING NEWS TRUMP IS ON THE LIST*****

MAGA: "Why weren't you Dems yelling like we were back then huh???? HYPOCRITES!!!!"

:oldlol:



f@#k off

[Baller234]

Trying to find angles to make one a hypocrite is all you got and all this "selective outrage" is really on you anyway. I can't even imagine what you'd be doing if this were Biden or some other Dem.

Why aren't you condemning Trump like you did everyone else? Why aren't you yelling "lock him up"? Why weren't you making excuses for Bill Clinton like you are for Trump?

You and your party paraded around Epstein and demanded the list and now that it's here? You're terrified. You got what you asked for.

Sorry but you have the wrong guy.

I'm not terrified of the list being revealed. I would love for it to be revealed. If Trump is on it so be it.

I already said I'm allowing for the possibility that Trump is involved. But that doesn't mean I'm ready to jump out the window either. There are a number of reasons why maybe he wouldn't want the list revealed.

Biden covered it up too but I never suspected he was on the list. Perhaps the rabbit hole really is that deep and no one wants to tamper with it.

[Baller234]

dbl post

[Off the Court]

Sorry but you have the wrong guy.

I'm not terrified of the list being revealed. I would love for it to be revealed. If Trump is on it so be it.

I already said I'm allowing for the possibility that Trump is involved. But that doesn't mean I'm ready to jump out the window either. There are a number of reasons why maybe he wouldn't want the list revealed.

Biden covered it up too but I never suspected he was on the list. Perhaps the rabbit hole really is that deep and no one wants to tamper with it.

Fair enough, but IF Trump is on there? What would that mean for you? Would you be okay with him being impeached and thrown in jail?

[Baller234]

Fair enough, but IF Trump is on there? What would that mean for you? Would you be okay with him being impeached and thrown in jail?

Depends on the nature of his crimes, but yes.

If Trump had fun with one of Epstein's teenage playthings, hold him accountable like you would any citizen.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Leftists do not support crazy rabbit hole discussions… unless it involves Trump.

All Conspiracy Culture has been pushed over to the Right Wing… unless it’s a conspiracy that incriminates Trump, then and only then it’s worthy of discussion for lefties.


How much $hit talking has there been against pedophilia conspiracy theories the past 15 years?

Pizza gate should never have been dismissed, Corey Feldman Hollywood claims should never have been dismissed….

Trump being associated with Epstein????? …. Now you want to talk about it?


F*ck off

[highwhey]

Leftists do not support crazy rabbit hole discussions… unless it involves Trump.

All Conspiracy Culture has been pushed over to the Right Wing… unless it’s a conspiracy that incriminates Trump, then and only then it’s worthy of discussion for lefties.


How much $hit talking has there been against pedophilia conspiracy theories the past 15 years?

Pizza gate should never have been dismissed, Corey Feldman Hollywood claims should never have been dismissed….

Trump being associated with Epstein????? …. Now you want to talk about it?


F*ck off

so you don't want this to be discussed if it involves trump?

[Doomsday Dallas]

I can assure you, Epstein puts Israel in a negative light.

If anything, Trump was in on the blackmailing scandals taking place. Blackmail is Trump’s bread & butter…. And I’m sure there are some folks in power that have dirt on Trump (like the Mossad)

[highwhey]

i am enjoying this fiasco backfire on trump. it's not going the way he envisioned it and his reply is a reflection of his frustration on this topic.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvWspzdXQAAHUni?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvWgqLjXAAA_WTm?format=png&name=small


:roll:

[3ba11]

the government was supposed to make a list of "jons" that are on Epstein's videos - that's the list that the government is covering up

[highwhey]

the government was supposed to make a list of "jons" that are on Epstein's videos - that's the list that the government is covering up

its because trump and his friends are on the list.

[Baller234]

i am enjoying this fiasco backfire on trump. it's not going the way he envisioned it and his reply is a reflection of his frustration on this topic.

How do you think he envisioned this going? He campaigned on it. The people he hired campaigned on it. Why would he think he would just be able to sweep this under the rug? At the very least you would think he would be trying to put up a fight, even a phony one, if only to save face. But no he clearly wants to move on and is making it known.

This is why I just assume he was never involved, because it would be too risky. There's no way he makes that a vital part of his campaign if he's on the list. Kash Patel was making the rounds for months talking about Epstein, so why would Trump hire him when he could have hired anyone else. Someone who hadn't made a name for themselves talking about Epstein. But no, they pushed for Kash. Junior pushed for Kash.

Trump's evil plan just doesn't make sense. Campaign on releasing the list, hire people who say they're going after the list, and then out of nowhere try and sweep it under the rug? Huh? Lol if the end goal was to sweep it under the rug why go through all that trouble at all? He could have downplayed it from the get go.

It's strange, it doesn't make sense, and I don't think Trump is that much of a gambler.

There are probably tons of moving parts behind the scenes that we just don't know about.

[highwhey]

How do you think he envisioned this going? He campaigned on it. The people he hired campaigned on it. Why would he think he would just be able to sweep this under the rug? At the very least you would think he would be trying to put up a fight, even a phony one, if only to save face. But no he clearly wants to move on and is making it known.

This is why I just assume he was never involved, because it would be too risky. There's no way he makes that a vital part of his campaign if he's on the list. Kash Patel was making the rounds for months talking about Epstein, so why would Trump hire him when he could have hired anyone else. Someone who hadn't made a name for themselves talking about Epstein. But no, they pushed for Kash. Junior pushed for Kash.

Trump's evil plan just doesn't make sense. Campaign on releasing the list, hire people who say they're going after the list, and then out of nowhere try and sweep it under the rug? Huh? Lol if the end goal was to sweep it under the rug why go through all that trouble at all? He could have downplayed it from the get go.

It's strange, it doesn't make sense, and I don't think Trump is that much of a gambler.

There are probably tons of moving parts behind the scenes that we just don't know about.

:roll::roll:

you're his prototypical supporter. he's counting on his most devoted fans to support him on this even though he's trying to sweep it under the rug. he literally thinks you're stupid enough to buy it, and well - you are.

[Off the Court]

Leftists do not support crazy rabbit hole discussions… unless it involves Trump.

All Conspiracy Culture has been pushed over to the Right Wing… unless it’s a conspiracy that incriminates Trump, then and only then it’s worthy of discussion for lefties.


How much $hit talking has there been against pedophilia conspiracy theories the past 15 years?

Pizza gate should never have been dismissed, Corey Feldman Hollywood claims should never have been dismissed….

Trump being associated with Epstein????? …. Now you want to talk about it?


F*ck off

So because Trump got thrown in the mix by his good buddy Elon Musk, and by well, his own Admin, we aren't allowed to talk about it because we didn't listen to Corey Feldman's Hollywood stuff? :roll:

But let me guess, you aren't the hypocrite right? it's the leftists, who never asked for any of this.

[diamenz]

how young were these girls anyway?

[Baller234]

:roll::roll:

you're his prototypical supporter. he's counting on his most devoted fans to support him on this even though he's trying to sweep it under the rug. he literally thinks you're stupid enough to buy it, and well - you are.

That theory doesn't make sense either. If he really wanted to downplay the whole Epstein angle, he could have. Biden held office for 4 years and was so insulated from it that he never had to entertain a single question about it.

There were rumblings on the right about bringing the Epstein stuff to light but Trump could have insulated himself from it just the same if he really wanted to. Instead he did the opposite, he threw gasoline on the fire.

He could have hired some no name loyalist to head the FBI and no one in his base would have objected. But no he hires the guy who's making the rounds on social media and actively calling to go after the Epstein clients. You could say it's all an elaborate plan to make it look like he has nothing to hide, but again that's an extremely huge gamble. It would be much safer to just downplay it from the jump. If Trump had played his cards right no one would even be talking about Epstein right now.

I don't think Trump is that stupid and I don't think he's that much of a gambler.

Like I said you guys are free to believe what you want. None of the facts are going to matter to you guys anyway.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So because Trump got thrown in the mix by his good buddy Elon Musk, and by well, his own Admin, we aren't allowed to talk about it because we didn't listen to Corey Feldman's Hollywood stuff? :roll:

But let me guess, you aren't the hypocrite right? it's the leftists, who never asked for any of this.


The rabbit hole only goes as deep as Trump allows it.... for your world view.

Tell us what you think Mr. Anti-Conspiracy..... All this stuff was tin foil talk a few years ago. If Trump is implicated it's no longer tin foil talk is it?

So let's check out the Big Brain on Off the Court... let's see him finally try to connect some dots here and tell us what he thinks is going on....



tread lightly... you might become a conspiracy theorist.

[Doomsday Dallas]

It's okay to connect dots Off the Court.... you should try thinking outside the box, and realize Trump isn't the only evil person in the country.

[Doomsday Dallas]

But let me guess, you aren't the hypocrite right? it's the leftists, who never asked for any of this.


I think I've called people on both sides of the isle evil for idk how many years.... So I can only speak for myself

looks like this is your Training Day. How deep does the rabbit hole go?


https://youtu.be/l9etHd895Dw

[Doomsday Dallas]

so you don't want this to be discussed if it involves trump?



C'mon man... anybody that has an ounce of spiritual discernment knows Trump is a Snake. Which is why I'm surprised so many Christians support him.

Did you really think "The Snake Poem" was about Radical Muslims? No, He read "The Snake Poem" to describe himself and mock his audience.


https://img.ifunny.co/images/69d232d0d7b0483b0da045ca9d67444352a640458de6b0c973 b7ea7ec99102d1_1.jpg






Trump is a Sith Lord... it's not the world's biggest mystery.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://img.ifunny.co/images/69d232d0d7b0483b0da045ca9d67444352a640458de6b0c973 b7ea7ec99102d1_1.jpg



https://youtu.be/z-P3cQlYDI4

[Off the Court]

Doomsday Dallas, the Epstein stuff has been spread over 2 decades now. He was found guilty of prostituting teenage girls. It's allways been accepted.

The stuff you're into? Where you talk about rabbit holes and post a lot pics and random batman clips? That's just you. No one has ever cared about Corey Feldman. Not on the right or the left. You have to be in your 40s just to know who that is.

IIRC I've implicated Trump in every Epstein thread in here. For years. I was right. I mean there's only 9,0000000 photos of Trump and Epstein hanging out. Stevie Wonder could see it.

[warriorfan]

Doomsday Dallas, the Epstein stuff has been spread over 2 decades now. He was found guilty of prostituting teenage girls. It's allways been accepted.

The stuff you're into? Where you talk about rabbit holes and post a lot pics and random batman clips? That's just you. No one has ever cared about Corey Feldman. Not on the right or the left. You have to be in your 40s just to know who that is.

IIRC I've implicated Trump in every Epstein thread in here. For years. I was right. I mean there's only 9,0000000 photos of Trump and Epstein hanging out. Stevie Wonder could see it.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Off the Court]

The first reply in here was me implicating Trump and this thread was made way before Elon said anything. It was made by diamenz who wasn't even thinking about Trump being in there.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Doomsday Dallas, the Epstein stuff has been spread over 2 decades now. He was found guilty of prostituting teenage girls. It's allways been accepted.

The stuff you're into? Where you talk about rabbit holes and post a lot pics and random batman clips? That's just you. No one has ever cared about Corey Feldman. Not on the right or the left. You have to be in your 40s just to know who that is.

IIRC I've implicated Trump in every Epstein thread in here. For years. I was right. I mean there's only 9,0000000 photos of Trump and Epstein hanging out. Stevie Wonder could see it.


Are you still stuck on Corey Feldman? It was used as an example.... do we need to go down the long list of other examples?

Let's start with Biden!!!!!!

Obvious F*cking Pedophile.... you don't need an Epstein connection with Biden... he gropes kids right in front of the camera.... But we know you'll automatically down play that even though Stevie Wonder can see that too.

Did you make any comments on Ashley Biden's diary? No.


We know Hollywood has a massive pedophile problem... do you not acknowledge that?

You implicating Trump in every thread, but staying silent on everything else is exactly my point... Thank You for admitting it.

I'm sure Beiber getting pounded in the @ss as a minor didn't happen... I'm sure all the pizzagate stuff was just nonsense right?

Biden doesn't have a fetish for children... Do we need to talk about the Podesta Brothers? Conspiracy BS right?



It's like your worldview is that Trump is the only one on the Epstein List.

Have you even mentioned any Israel connections with Epstein yet? or you still focused on Trump?

[Off the Court]

Biden needs way more evidence. I don't care about Bieber. Hillary running a pedophile ring in a pizza parlor is straight f@#king dumb.


Let's see, the one supposed "conspiracy" I actually supported is down to be true. While all the dumb shit you guys supported has Ben down to be, well dumb.

I'm still waiting for the vaccine to kill me

[Doomsday Dallas]

Biden needs way more evidence. I don't care about Bieber. Hillary running a pedophile ring in a pizza parlor is straight f@#king dumb.


Let's see, the one supposed "conspiracy" I actually supported is down to be true. While all the dumb shit you guys supported has Ben down to be, well dumb.

I'm still waiting for the vaccine to kill me



I rest my case.... Trump is the only one at the center of a conspiracy.


When asked about Biden in 2021, while he was in the Hot Seat.... You went off about Trump

Gun to your head, do you think Joe Biden is attracted to little kids?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?498782-Gun-to-your-head-do-you-think-Joe-Biden-is-attracted-to-little-kids/page2


Jstern gun to your head would you suck Trumps' dick? BUT WAIT! Trick question. Let's remove the gun from your head and would you continue to finish Trump off because you know, it's Donald Trump!?




"I don't care about Bieber.".... you don't care about anything but Trump

[Off the Court]

Trump is the sitting President :oldlol:

Of course I care about him and not Bieber.

He's also the one on the hot seat right now. No one is thinking about Bieber guy. Not even Trumpers.

You guys want this to be about other people so bad :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Trump is the sitting President :oldlol:

Of course I care about him and not Bieber.

He's also the one on the hot seat right now. No one is thinking about Bieber guy. Not even Trumpers.

You guys want this to be about other people so bad :oldlol:



So the only conspiracies ever to exist are Russia-Gate and Epstein Island.... only because Trump is involved.

Actually... those wouldn't even be conspiracies.... Trump is the only villain in your story because he's the President.



You care to enlighten us all on the reporters question that he asked Trump today?: Did Epstein ever work for a Foreign (Israel) or US intelligence agency?

[Off the Court]

Your definitely too hung up on the word "conspiracy". The Biden thing would be a conspiracy between him and himself :oldlol:

Epstein was found guilty 20 years ago. It's not a conspiracy. He was found guilty of providing underaged prostitutes.

He's just a criminal, I never said those don't exist.

A conspiracy is like saying the vaccine was made to depopulate the Earth. Or that everyone in a school shooting was an actor. Or Joe Biden is a robot. That kind of dumb shit.

[Lakers Legend#32]

If I were Trump and the whole world was calling me a pedo, I would release the entire Epstein files to prove I was not there.

Unless of course, Trump was actually there.

[Doomsday Dallas]

A conspiracy is like saying the vaccine was made to depopulate the Earth. Or that everyone in a school shooting was an actor. Or Joe Biden is a robot. That kind of dumb shit.



How about a conspiracy where Epstein worked on behalf Israel to keep dirt on people in high positions of power... thus giving Zion control of the US... Or is that too antisemitic?

kind of like the Diddy thing you don't care about.


I know it's convenient for you to cherry pick the most outrageous conspiracy theories.... but once again... this is one that actually points the finger at Israel more than Trump.

I could've sworn we just bombed a country on Israel's behalf.

You are basically saying one one bad conspiracy theory spoils the rest.... So because the population didn't get wiped out from the vaccine, now everything we were told about the pandemic was truthful? Have fun with that philosophy.



If anything.... The Epstein files shed light that he was a Mossad agent.... and that's not something you would want the public to know, especially when we are about to go to WWIII on Israel's behalf.

And again... that's what the reporter asked Trump... who was Epstein working for????



But we will stick with your version of the story which is what? Musk's version? He buried the truth to protect himself and only himself? OK, Trump's a possible pedo... once again, we can ignore Israel.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Your definitely too hung up on the word "conspiracy". The Biden thing would be a conspiracy between him and himself :oldlol:


assuming nobody had that dirt on Biden.

Again... he wouldn't be in a high position of power if he didn't have dirt.


They all have dirt. From Hollywood, to the Music Industry, to Washington DC... all those famous f*cks have the worst kind of dirt on them.

This is how the corruption and wickedness rises to the top.



Trump had his own little blackmail epstein island with Atlantic City.



Take a little-known episode where Trump tried to pressure former Republican New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman.

In 1997, Trump, then a major casino owner in Atlantic City, was furious with New Jersey elected officials for supporting a $330 million tunnel project. The tunnel would run from the Atlantic City Expressway almost to the doorstep of a casino run by then-rival Steve Wynn. “Trump didn’t want Wynn in Atlantic City,” Whitman recently told me. Trump “wanted to control the gambling there.”

As a casino owner, Trump wasn’t able to make donations in New Jersey legislative races, contributions being one of his go-to methods of attempting to exert control over government decisions. But Trump could run caustic ads and file lawsuits, which he did. When none of that worked, and the tunnel was in the final stages of approval, Whitman said, Trump called her up.

A few years before the tunnel vote, Whitman’s son, Taylor, who was in high school at the time, had gotten falling-down drunk at a private dance at Trump’s Plaza Hotel off Central Park in New York City and had to be taken to the hospital. This is something that high school students stupidly do, and Whitman said to me she was happy for Taylor to be sick “to teach him a lesson.” But in the call, Trump suddenly brought the episode up. He said it would be “too bad” if the press found out about her son’s drunken antics.

“He made the threat during the deliberations over the tunnel,” Whitman said, and it “blindsided” her because the high school dance was private and Taylor's behavior had been a family concern. She had no idea how Trump found out about it, she said, but the episode made it clear to her that people collected and delivered sensitive information to Trump about what happened in his properties. She did not buckle to Trump, and he never made good on his threat.

Many people who have found themselves, for better or worse, in Trump’s orbit over the decades — people with far less power than Whitman — told me it was obvious that Trump collected information on people, delighted in it, even. And he was not shy about deploying it. “There was always someone watching,” one former high-level Trump Organization employee told me. “What Donald would do is he would let the person know he knows, in his around-the-corner way. He let the person know he was all-imposing and he knew what was going on.” Like most other former employees, this person did not want to speak on the record for fear that Trump would still come after him all these years later.

It was helpful for Trump that people knew he collected information on others’ less glowing moments as potential ammunition down the road. One top former New Jersey lawmaker told me that he’d been warned to be on his best behavior when he traveled to Atlantic City because Trump kept an eye on important people. Even as a rumor, it furnished Trump with power.

https://www.propublica.org/article/why-trump-hoarded-documents-information

[Akeem34TheDream]

You have to be exceptionally stupid to think this is a partisan case, a Democrat or Republican thing. US had 3 incredibly important cases in the post WW2 era. Assasination of JFK, 9/11 and Epstein case. All 3 had major political motivations. JFK and 9/11 had massive political consequences. Murder of JFK and Epstein operation was done by people with same ideology and they AT LEAST had intel about 9/11. In US politics there is an elephant in the room. When you try to talk about it, you often get called the worst names. Patriotic people are uncomfortable or even scared to explain the situation. They try to paint you as a lunatic, hateful, crazy person in a basement connecting dots. Everything is so clear when you take the red pill.

USA is basically a company not a country. And its priority is to serve its shareholders, not the customers. Shareholders in this analogy are lobbies. There are many powerful lobbies in US. Healthcare industry(big pharma, food sector, insurance companies etc.), finance, energy, military industrial complex, aggriculture and big tech. There are also foreign lobbies and intelligence agencies. Foreign agencies are governed under FARA(Foreign Agents Registration Act) except one of them. These intelligence agencies usually have a relationship with another intelligence agency from another country. And there is an ideology that connects many of these lobbies with media and politicians. They are not that good at propaganda imo but they are great at infiltrating and amassing wealth. It's not a stupid supernatural theory like lizard people or aliens. It's not even an interesting but unlikely theory about parasites. It just comes from in-group loyalty stemming from a religion.

I don't have a tin foil hat. With the Internet information is more available than ever. You can all look it up. You just have to ask the right questions. And all the things i said about US is true but US is also more transparent than any other country. You literally can just search which poltician got how much money from which lobby.

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump is the sitting President :oldlol:

Of course I care about him and not Bieber.

He's also the one on the hot seat right now. No one is thinking about Bieber guy. Not even Trumpers.

You guys want this to be about other people so bad :oldlol:

Why didn't Biden release the files?

[Baller234]

Biden needs way more evidence. I don't care about Bieber. Hillary running a pedophile ring in a pizza parlor is straight f@#king dumb.


Let's see, the one supposed "conspiracy" I actually supported is down to be true. While all the dumb shit you guys supported has Ben down to be, well dumb.

I'm still waiting for the vaccine to kill me

Really? Ashley Biden's diary was retrieved by Project Veritas and there is an entry where she talks about her father taking inappropriate showers with her as a child and questions whether or not she was molested:

https://x.com/camrynbaylee/status/1562897393603203073

Ashley never denied anything that came from the diary, instead saying her words were being "misinterpreted". Even a federal court determined the diary was real and sentenced the woman who found it to 30 days in jail.

This was happening right out in the open while Biden was president. You guys, along with the Biden friendly press, said nothing. As usual he never had to entertain a single question regarding it.

Off The Court could you explain why you had no interest in this story while it was happening?

[Off the Court]

I didn't really believe in the Biden stuff, sorry. It's possible he had inappropriate thoughts at times. Maybe made some family members uncomfortable. But I doubt he actually f@#ked a little girl. I could be wrong, maybe he did. If he did? throw in jail. I don't care.

A big facet of why none us cared to look into that is because none of us cared about Biden himself. We never saw him as a great POTUS, again he never had a cult following. We all knew he was a place holder to keep Trump out.

And I'm actually trying to help you guys here, when you point back at Biden, it has ZERO impact. None. WE DO NOT CARE. If Biden dropped dead today (Which is completely possible) not a one of us will lose any sleep over it.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I didn't really believe in the Biden stuff, sorry. It's possible he had inappropriate thoughts at times. Maybe made some family members uncomfortable. But I doubt he actually f@#ked a little girl. I could be wrong, maybe he did. If he did? throw in jail. I don't care.

A big facet of why none us cared to look into that is because none of us cared about Biden himself. We never saw him as a great POTUS, again he never had a cult following. We all knew he was a place holder to keep Trump out.

And I'm actually trying to help you guys here, when you point back at Biden, it has ZERO impact. None. WE DO NOT CARE. If Biden dropped dead today (Which is completely possible) not a one of us will lose any sleep over it.


https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-i-m-not-here-to-discuss-the-past-i-m-here-to-be-positive-mark-mcgwire-92-11-72.jpg

[Off the Court]

Yes unfortunately for you guys, Trump is the current President, and he is the one society will focus on currently. Musk tweeted up a shit storm about Trump and Epstein yesterday. He tweeted all day on it. And to me it looks like he is going to use it as a launching pad for his American Party. So this issue probably isn't going away any time soon. Sorry about that.

When Biden was in office, you guys had your fun. But now he's gone. You're going to have to actually look at Trump in the face and deal with it.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Musk tweeted up a shit storm about Trump and Epstein yesterday. He tweeted all day on it.


https://c.tenor.com/EZdjKi4lZbwAAAAd/tenor.gif

[Doomsday Dallas]

We are going to spend the next 4 years not giving a $hit about Trump, because he's just a place holder to keep Democrats out of office.

Case closed on Epstein,... no client list, died by suicide.


Why are we still talking about this? Do you see how many people are dead in Texas?

[Off the Court]

https://c.tenor.com/EZdjKi4lZbwAAAAd/tenor.gif

Yes you do, that's why you're in here now. That is why everyone is talking. It all started with Elon Musk pointing a finger. In fact I think you were the one that ran in here to link it.

[Off the Court]

I can see for the non-tribals, this one was powerful. Like the rural ones who were all about defeating the evil Epstein and bought into all the stuff the right was selling them.

https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047

Reading through those comments, a lot of those type MAGAs are in shambles over this. That is a life campaigner for Trump who is done now.

Unfortunately, this is his last term and the damage is done. We can't go back. But at least this will help heal some of the division that Trump caused.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047




No one answers the question if Epstein was an intelligence asset or not


exactly.

do you even care Off the Court? or you just focused on Trump.


I'll say it one more time... Epstein was Mossad.... we are protecting Israel.


you have any thoughts on this Off the Court?

[Overdrive]

exactly.

do you even care Off the Court? or you just focused on Trump.


I'll say it one more time... Epstein was Mossad.... we are protecting Israel.


you have any thoughts on this Off the Court?

The problem discussing with you is that you throw out wild assumptions and think they hold the same merit as facts that can be backed by several sources.

[Doomsday Dallas]

You have to be exceptionally stupid to think this is a partisan case, a Democrat or Republican thing. US had 3 incredibly important cases in the post WW2 era. Assasination of JFK, 9/11 and Epstein case. All 3 had major political motivations. JFK and 9/11 had massive political consequences. Murder of JFK and Epstein operation was done by people with same ideology and they AT LEAST had intel about 9/11. In US politics there is an elephant in the room. When you try to talk about it, you often get called the worst names. Patriotic people are uncomfortable or even scared to explain the situation. They try to paint you as a lunatic, hateful, crazy person in a basement connecting dots. Everything is so clear when you take the red pill.

USA is basically a company not a country. And its priority is to serve its shareholders, not the customers. Shareholders in this analogy are lobbies. There are many powerful lobbies in US. Healthcare industry(big pharma, food sector, insurance companies etc.), finance, energy, military industrial complex, aggriculture and big tech. There are also foreign lobbies and intelligence agencies. Foreign agencies are governed under FARA(Foreign Agents Registration Act) except one of them. These intelligence agencies usually have a relationship with another intelligence agency from another country. And there is an ideology that connects many of these lobbies with media and politicians. They are not that good at propaganda imo but they are great at infiltrating and amassing wealth. It's not a stupid supernatural theory like lizard people or aliens. It's not even an interesting but unlikely theory about parasites. It just comes from in-group loyalty stemming from a religion.

I don't have a tin foil hat. With the Internet information is more available than ever. You can all look it up. You just have to ask the right questions. And all the things i said about US is true but US is also more transparent than any other country. You literally can just search which poltician got how much money from which lobby.



it's okay Akeem.... you can say it.

We all know the truth.


https://y.yarn.co/027402fe-9fa7-4c7a-84c8-bb34f69e646f_text.gif

[Doomsday Dallas]

The problem discussing with you is that you throw out wild assumptions and think they hold the same merit as facts that can be backed by several sources.



Tell me Overdrive.... who qualifies as a credible source in 2025?

[Doomsday Dallas]

The stuff you're into? Where you talk about rabbit holes and post a lot pics and random batman clips? That's just you.




https://youtu.be/8ixaEnZHtH8

[Off the Court]

Tell me Overdrive.... who qualifies as a credible source in 2025?

Not you

He's right. It's too difficult to take anything you say seriously because of all the constant wild shit you throw around. I don't care to follow you down a rabbit hole because it will lead to Batman movie clips that have no real meaning.

If you want people to take you seriously you need to come with facts and not Batman.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Not you

He's right. It's too difficult to take anything you say seriously because of all the constant wild shit you throw around. I don't care to follow you down a rabbit hole because it will lead to Batman movie clips that have no real meaning.

If you want people to take you seriously you need to come with facts and not Batman.


Ok... if not me.... who's a credible source?


Looks like the DOJ just lost all of their credibility.

[Off the Court]

Ok... if not me.... who's a credible source?


Looks like the DOJ just lost all of their credibility.

In this particular instance, it is Elon Musk who was joined at the hip with Trump during his campaign and champions himself as bringing the word of truth to the people on Twitter. And Trump himself for shutting down the release of the client list after his admin paraded around releasing it.

[Overdrive]

Tell me Overdrive.... who qualifies as a credible source in 2025?

A courtruling that happened did happen. If it's reported by multiple outlets you can assume it's true. If not you'd have outlets that would report otherwise.

One of the biggest problems these days is that people put just as much credibility into youtube videos as in classic media.

Of course classic media can and will to some extent deceive, but they are accountable for the things they say. The conspiracy nut on yt isn't.

[Off the Court]

A courtruling that happened did happen. If it's reported by multiple outlets you can assume it's true. If not you'd have outlets that would report otherwise.

One of the biggest problems these days is that people put just as much credibility into youtube videos as in classic media.

Of course classic media can and will to some extent deceive, but they are accountable for the things they say. The conspiracy nut on yt isn't.

Both are guilty of selling fear to obtain viewers though. And we need to start acknowledging the fact that it isn't their fault. No one is going to watch MSM reports saying everything is fine and dandy, and Dooms isn't going to watch YT vids about how there is no conspiracy. It's a mixture of capitalism, and our human nature. We glue to things that we are scared of. We ignore "positive news".

The YT vids I will say are much more extreme with it. They have Doomsday fearing the end of the world, and witches and demons and thinking that everyone in charge is deceiving him, every major event is actors. But MSM sells fear all the same. They are also guilty.


Funny enough, if I had to pick a credible source, it would be TMZ. They just report stories and happenings and that is it. And they know if they get them wrong their business is over. It is much more about being the FIRST to report something, than selling fear.

[Baller234]

I didn't really believe in the Biden stuff, sorry. It's possible he had inappropriate thoughts at times. Maybe made some family members uncomfortable. But I doubt he actually f@#ked a little girl. I could be wrong, maybe he did. If he did? throw in jail. I don't care.

A big facet of why none us cared to look into that is because none of us cared about Biden himself. We never saw him as a great POTUS, again he never had a cult following. We all knew he was a place holder to keep Trump out.

And I'm actually trying to help you guys here, when you point back at Biden, it has ZERO impact. None. WE DO NOT CARE. If Biden dropped dead today (Which is completely possible) not a one of us will lose any sleep over it.

:: Biden's daughter writes in her diary that her father took naked showers with her ::

Off The Court: "I don't believe this stuff, sorry..."

:: Elon claims Trump is on the list during a fit of rage ::

Off The Court: "Trump is 1000% a pedo, it's obvious..."



And I love how you say "Trump is president now"... well okay in 2022 when this story first broke "Biden was president now". Yet you guys said fukk all about it and showed zero interest in pursuing it further.

So the sitting president was credibly accused of being inappropriate with his own daughter and you guys ignored it completely.

So I ask again, why?

[Baller234]

I can see for the non-tribals, this one was powerful. Like the rural ones who were all about defeating the evil Epstein and bought into all the stuff the right was selling them.

https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047

Reading through those comments, a lot of those type MAGAs are in shambles over this. That is a life campaigner for Trump who is done now.

Unfortunately, this is his last term and the damage is done. We can't go back. But at least this will help heal some of the division that Trump caused.

"Trump is really done this time..."

"The walls are closing in..."


You guys really never learn.

[Doomsday Dallas]

A courtruling that happened did happen. If it's reported by multiple outlets you can assume it's true. If not you'd have outlets that would report otherwise.

One of the biggest problems these days is that people put just as much credibility into youtube videos as in classic media.

Of course classic media can and will to some extent deceive, but they are accountable for the things they say. The conspiracy nut on yt isn't.



Classic Media? The Classic Media that is now owned by 6 major corporations? Or the Classic Media that used to owned by 50 different companies?


Just 37 years ago, there were 50 companies in charge of most American media. Now, 90% of the media in the United States is controlled by just six corporations: AT&T, CBS, Comcast, Disney, Newscorp and Viacom. This means that just 232 media executives are calling the shots for the vast majority of the information we are presented with, controlling a total Big Six net worth of over $430 billion.

The extent in which they can deceive is only that much easier... and we are going to disagree as to what extent they can deceive and mislead the masses.



Right now... Since we don't want to focus on the past... we had a real journalistic question that was dismissed by Trump's team, and now being dismissed by y'all.

WHO WAS EPSTEIN WORKING FOR?


You guys are more focused on Trump's reaction than the actual answer to the question that got dismissed....

you all assume all the additional Epstein info isn't being released because it implicates Trump and nobody else.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Funny enough, if I had to pick a credible source, it would be TMZ. They just report stories and happenings and that is it. And they know if they get them wrong their business is over. It is much more about being the FIRST to report something, than selling fear.



https://youtu.be/U3pV_Mw4mrM

[Off the Court]

Dooms why don't you just go ahead and take us straight to the end of your rabbit hole without us having to decode Batman and all that.

We know there are others on the list, Bill Clinton probably on there. And we know there are powerful people in Israel that have tons of sway here and pull strings. But what wild conspiracy is it you want to sell this time?

Trump is the current POTUS, and arguably the most powerful man in the world. So I'm not going to apologize for focusing on him.

[Doomsday Dallas]

WHO WAS EPSTEIN WORKING FOR?


https://youtu.be/b0g2dcduHbw


0:38 - 0:43 mark

"to him being an agent, I have no knowledge about that, we can get back to you on that"










Please.... get back to us on that.

[Doomsday Dallas]

dbl post.

[Off the Court]

I mean, regardless of Epstein's links to anyone else, our President f@3ked an underage prostitute.

[highwhey]

"Trump is really done this time..."

"The walls are closing in..."


You guys really never learn.

that's not the flex you think it is pal. it's actually a key component as to why this entire thing is such a shitshow. people like you will defend trump under any circumstance, including but not limited to him being a confirmed pdf file and protecting his pdf file peers. you're a disgusting human being.

[highwhey]

I mean, regardless of Epstein's links to anyone else, our President f@3ked an underage prostitute.

and the magas are OK with that

[Baller234]

Dooms why don't you just go ahead and take us straight to the end of your rabbit hole without us having to decode Batman and all that.

We know there are others on the list, Bill Clinton probably on there. And we know there are powerful people in Israel that have tons of sway here and pull strings. But what wild conspiracy is it you want to sell this time?

Trump is the current POTUS, and arguably the most powerful man in the world. So I'm not going to apologize for focusing on him.

You should apologize though, because it exposes you as the shameless hypocrite you are.

A principled person would be holding everyone to the same standard, but it's clear you have no interest in that. When Biden was POTUS and he was "the most powerful man in the world"... you said nothing. The Epstein stuff was out there but there was zero call for Biden to release any information. He went his entire time without ever having to take a single question. Not about Epstein and not about his daughter's diary. Not only that but there was zero curiosity on your behalf.

You knew back then then there could possibly be a network of elites engaging in filth, but because Biden and the democrats were in office you pretended like it was all some right wing conspiracy. If Trump is guilty of covering it up, that would mean your precious democrats were covering it up too.

So yes I'm glad that you're willing to hold democrats accountable after the fact, but we both know it's only because it gives you an equal chance to demonize Trump. When it was happening in real time, you were very much willing to let it all slide.

[Baller234]

that's not the flex you think it is pal. it's actually a key component as to why this entire thing is such a shitshow. people like you will defend trump under any circumstance, including but not limited to him being a confirmed pdf file and protecting his pdf file peers. you're a disgusting human being.

You're a disgusting human being. I've exposed you so many times for being liar and phony I've lost count. I've never even met you but I can tell you're miserable person who showers at best every other day and hasn't changed his bed sheets in a year.

Literally nothing has been confirmed and there is zero evidence supporting your claim. Trump being in on the coverup doesn't mean he was in on the trafficking and the other stuff.

I don't defend any Trump under any circumstance. I already said if he's found guilty he should be held accountable. I posted this in plain english. Put down the pot and stop jerking off. Your brain is totally fried.

[Off the Court]

and the magas are OK with that

Baller is, yes.

That is why I called the one I posted a "non-tribal"

https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047

She isn't trying to excuse Trump by pointing at Biden. She isn't on a mission to make libs look like hypocrites. She isn't in there saying "well Kamala would have been worse".

She legitimately cares that Trump raped a teenage girl, and she is disgusted by it. And now she is willing to throw away over a decade of campaigning for Trump. She doesn't give a f@#k about libs saying "we told you". She isn't in it to score tribal points.\

She's a real one.

And there are more in that thread, I see a MAGA farmer saying he is done and now wants amnesty for his illegal workers. I see another saying people he knows have thrown away their shwag, too embarrassing to wear a MAGA hat now.

Never seen this before.



Now Baller is right in that this is Trump's last term, and we are way past the point of "the walls are closing in he's finished". The damage is done. But at least the country is finally coming together on this. At least the non-tribals. There are still a lot Ballers out there who will die on the MAGA hill.

[Doomsday Dallas]

A principled person would be holding everyone to the same standard, but it's clear you have no interest in that. When Biden was POTUS and he was "the most powerful man in the world"... you said nothing. The Epstein stuff was out there but there was zero call for Biden to release any information.



especially if it incriminated Trump.... why wouldn't Biden release that info?

[Doomsday Dallas]

And we know there are powerful people in Israel that have tons of sway here and pull strings.



But not in this situation huh?


Trump raped a teenage girl is all you're alluding to.

[Off the Court]

But not in this situation huh?


Trump raped a teenage girl is all you're alluding to.

And you are saying Trump didn't? No matter who Epstein is linked to, our POTUS raped a teen. Right?

This is why I said you need to just go ahead and skip ahead to the end of your rabbit hole for us. You're to vague and we all assume you're going to go somewhere weird with this. So just do us all a favor and get there already. Did Israel force Trump to rape a girl or something?

[highwhey]

Baller is, yes.

That is why I called the one I posted a "non-tribal"

https://x.com/JustTheTweets17/status/1942624633053696047

She isn't trying to excuse Trump by pointing at Biden. She isn't on a mission to make libs look like hypocrites. She isn't in there saying "well Kamala would have been worse".

She legitimately cares that Trump raped a teenage girl, and she is disgusted by it. And now she is willing to throw away over a decade of campaigning for Trump. She doesn't give a f@#k about libs saying "we told you". She isn't in it to score tribal points.\

She's a real one.

And there are more in that thread, I see a MAGA farmer saying he is done and now wants amnesty for his illegal workers. I see another saying people he knows have thrown away their shwag, too embarrassing to wear a MAGA hat now.

Never seen this before.



Now Baller is right in that this is Trump's last term, and we are way past the point of "the walls are closing in he's finished". The damage is done. But at least the country is finally coming together on this. At least the non-tribals. There are still a lot Ballers out there who will die on the MAGA hill.

it's good that there a principled individuals like her amongst MAGA, she's willing to hold trump accountable while other maga folks like baller and dooms just keep trying to spin this and point fingers at biden.

[Doomsday Dallas]

And you are saying Trump didn't? No matter who Epstein is linked to, our POTUS raped a teen. Right?

This is why I said you need to just go ahead and skip ahead to the end of your rabbit hole for us. You're to vague and we all assume you're going to go somewhere weird with this. So just do us all a favor and get there already. Did Israel force Trump to rape a girl or something?


Are you being serious right now?

The files are not being released under Biden or Trump because it indicates Israel was running a Mossad Op.


what was Biden's team doing the past 4 years? Why were they so incompetent in getting the info to the masses? Missed Opportunity.



Just like the Book of Revelations... all roads lead to Israel. Zion is the bottom of the rabbit hole.

[Doomsday Dallas]

it's good that there a principled individuals like her amongst MAGA, she's willing to hold trump accountable while other maga folks like baller and dooms just keep trying to spin this and point fingers at biden.


First of all.... I would never be foolish enough to trust the President of USA. Biden or Trump or whoever the f*ck is in office.

Secondly... I clearly stated in the election thread we'd be better off if Kamala won, that she was in fact the lesser of two evils.... and I stated the reasons why.


You're not going to find a Trump Apologist over here in my household. Nor are you going to find anybody in my home that voted for Trump in the past 3 elections.




Lastly.... the only thing that has gotten exposed is a massive cover-up.... and to suggest Trump is the only thing that is being covered up is closed minded af.

[j3lademaster]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump and Elon beef was manufactured to take attention away from the bbb.

[Off the Court]

The Epstein client list?

Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.

[Off the Court]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Trump and Elon beef was manufactured to take attention away from the bbb.

Elon tweets about how disgusted he is with the BBB all the time. It's one the main reason they are at odds.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.



I love how TDS has turned you into a conspiracy theorist.

[Off the Court]

The "conspiracy" angle is all you care about. The issue isn't that me or anyone else has TDS, it's that you have CDS. Conspiracy Derangement.

[Doomsday Dallas]

The "conspiracy" angle is all you care about. The issue isn't that me or anyone else has TDS, it's that you have CDS. Conspiracy Derangement.


Is it not a conspiracy? One that you've put Trump at the center of.... ignoring all other aspects and primarily focused on the idea of Trump in bed with minors.

Completely disregarding the possibility that Trump was gaining leverage on other elites with pedophilia fetishes.



As I've pointed out previously.... He did this with his casino in Atlantic City. He has known reputation for it.

Trump is in the business of collecting dirt... not in the business of raping children himself.

[Off the Court]

Is it not a conspiracy? One that you've put Trump at the center of.... ignoring all other aspects and primarily focused on the idea of Trump in bed with minors.

Completely disregarding the possibility that Trump was gaining leverage on other elites with pedophilia fetishes.



As I've pointed out previously.... He did this with his casino in Atlantic City. He has known reputation for it.

Trump is in the business of collecting dirt... not in the business of raping children himself.
There it is. Finally.

You think Trump is innocent.

I mean, it is more than CDS with you. You're also not-so-secretly MAGA.

[Patrick Chewing]

The Epstein client list?

Epstein was jailed under Trump, and he also died under Trump. Trump killed him. Because he raped a girl.

Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?

[Off the Court]

Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?

IDK, maybe cause Clinton on there. Maybe because they were not in his control. Maybe they didn't care to. Trump is the one that has to appease his conspiracy crowd following with Epstein and JFK and MLK and everything else. That is why he focused on that and promised their release. The Biden admin never put focused on any those things. No POTUS has until Trump.

[highwhey]

Why didn't Joe Biden release the files?
^^ another pdf file apologist

[Doomsday Dallas]

There it is. Finally.

You think Trump is innocent.

I mean, it is more than CDS with you. You're also not-so-secretly MAGA.



I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.

you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.

It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.



Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.

[Off the Court]

I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.

you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.

It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.



Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.

Ah, Trump being besties with Epstein was 4D chess because he knew that many years later he would become POTUS and the dirt would be useful in his 2nd term.

Makes sense. Trump is so smart.

[ZenMaster]

Earlier I said it is no longer a question of if Trump did anything, it is now a question of weather or not his base cares. And most of them do not care. They know Trump f@#ked a child, but they will still defend him to the death.



Pam Bondi originally said the entire reason it's all been taking so long is because there is a ton of video footage, and a lot of it is very graphic. And they don't want to throw stuff out that could damage the lives of the young women that were more or less sex slaves. And with that said, they probably came across video footage of Trump.

SEEING is a really huge difference for most. If George Floyds death wasn't on video, the riots don't happen. And if they released Trump having sex with a minor? That would be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for most.

If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.

You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.

But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?

So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?

[Lakers Legend#32]

Here's the difference.

If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.

If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.

[Off the Court]

If you want people to believe your conspiracy theory, you need to explain some of the holes that doesn't make sense.

You claim Trump slept or raped a child on the island and that Epstein filmed it. So this happened between 1998 and 2005ish and Epstein has sat on the recording for at least 20 years. While no one who sued Epstein has claimed Trump was ever on Epstein island, he isn't in the flight logs, Epstein himself has never claimed Trump to ever be on the island either, but assuming what you say is true or it happened somewhere else, what was his motivation for filming Trump doing this? He didn't use it to prevent being arrested when Trump was president last time, so what do you think he used it for? They weren't friendly any longer and hadn't been so for 10 years when Trump first ran for President.

But OK, he doesn't use this video to prevent being arrested, but there's a copy of it and it's taken possession of by the FBI where it never leaks, it's not deleted in 2019 either because we know Bondi is looking at it 2025.
A big question: If Merrick Garland and Joe Biden has had access to this footage between 2020-2024, why and how was Trump allowed to run for and become President again? How is the footage of him having sex with a child not used to prevent that from happening in one way or another?

So now, Pam Bondi has the most powerful piece of video in the world, which she told Elon about some weeks ago but she's just deleting it. Or do you assume she has other video as well, so now Trump has gotten the one video of him and now he holds video of a bunch of other important people that he can use to blackmail?

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

[Patrick Chewing]

IDK, maybe cause Clinton on there. Maybe because they were not in his control. Maybe they didn't care to. Trump is the one that has to appease his conspiracy crowd following with Epstein and JFK and MLK and everything else. That is why he focused on that and promised their release. The Biden admin never put focused on any those things. No POTUS has until Trump.

If Trump was on that list and Christopher Wray had it in his hands, you know damn well they would have used it to bury Trump.


But they didn't.

[highwhey]

I don't think Trump has that kind of dirt on him.... he's the one collecting dirt.

you have it in your mind that Trump went to the island like it was Diddy party and got lubed up with a bunch young girls.

It's the opposite... he has dirt on people that got involved with minors... and has leverage on them... thus obtaining the power he has.



Does Israel have dirt on Trump? 100%.... but I don't think it's child porn.

so what you're saying is you have schizophrenia?

[Baller234]

Here's the difference.

If Clinton's name is on that list, his base would reject him.

If Trump's name is on that list, the MAGAS would reject the findings.

We can prove this is a lie because the Epstein speculation has been going on for 6 years yet you guys only took interest in this stuff 15 minutes ago.

You're only interested now because it appears Trump is also in on the coverup, but before that you guys were perfectly willing to let it all slide.

You're not fooling anyone.

[Baller234]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

Obviously Biden and the democrats were all in on the coverup and went out of their way to sweep it under the rug, the same as Trump is doing right now. Yet when the dems were the ones covering it up, you didn't mind.

Don't say "Biden isn't the president" because he WAS the president for 4 years and you said nothing. The only thing that's changed is that now you smell blood and you have a chance to throw Trump under the bus too.

So don't act like you're acting out of some superior moral principle. As usual it always boils down to your chronic TDS.

[highwhey]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvXpN75W0AA15Pn?format=jpg&name=small


doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.

[ZenMaster]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.

No, it doesn't sound likely at all.

[Baller234]

HIGHwhey getting fooled by obviously fake internet photos is definitely on brand for him.

[Off the Court]

So when Trump ran for President in 2016, Obama had already had access to video of him raping a child for 8 years, but didn't figure to use it to blackmail Trump not to run? And Obama didn't want to put Trump in jail for it either, because there's video of Clinton doing the same and too many people knew about it all happening.
And then it's been sitting on a HD in a box at some FBI office for 17 years until it's collected for Pam Bondi who tells Elon Musk about the video.

No, it doesn't sound likely at all.

I think Trump is listed as a client, and Bannon. I think Elon saw the list of clients and the notables. He has knowledge of it.

YOU are the one who posted Pam saying "there are tens of thousands of videos" and while obviously that could only be an exaggeration, I don't doubt there are probably "lots" of videos. Probably Hundreds, maybe like 1,000.

And I highly doubt that Pam or Elon actually watched any of that. In fact it is possible no one has. It is possible Epstein handed over a list, and all the footage, and the FBI and said "here is all the video, and the names of the people in the videos" and that was that.

I don't think Obama or Biden or any Admin has direct knowledge of it. It's not like when a POTUS is elected the FBI approaches them with every single thing that have. I think that the Trump admin approached THEM about it, and forced access, which is something the other admins didn't care to do.

[Off the Court]

I'll say this too, if Elon Musk is in fact spreading fake news? Lying to the population? Defamation of the POTUS? He needs to be thrown in prison.

To do that after all his free speech talk? After all he has said about MSM being harmful? And then to go and do the same thing only 100x worse? I mean CNN has never come out and said "Trump IS FOR FACT on the Epstein list".

He would be showing all of us exactly why the internet needs moderation.

[warriorfan]

We know Epstein provided the FBI with evidence in 2008 as part of a plea deal or something else. Could be that was the one time he used his get of jail free card and Trump was in there.

The Biden thing, again maybe he was protecting Bill Clinton, maybe someone else. Maybe they were not in control. I mean clearly the Trump Admin wasn't in control until recent.

I do not think that any admin has the authority to just delete stuff. The FBI or CIA would step in. I don't think that Pam and Trump could just throw out a fake list for that reason either. Way too many involved for that, or to keep something like that under the wraps. If not? Trump would have already provided us all with a fake Epstein list.

Tinfoil hat level schizophrenic rantings

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvXpN75W0AA15Pn?format=jpg&name=small


doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.




That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?

[warriorfan]

That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?

:lol :roll:

[Baller234]

That's interesting...... but what does this have to do with the fact that you weigh 400lbs?

It's clearly a fake photo. Look at Trump's "legs".

[warriorfan]

It's clearly a fake photo. Look at Trump's "legs".

I don’t know what the context is but even if it was real, I don’t see how him sitting on a plane with him means anything. All flights don’t end up at Epstein Island lol.

[jstern]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvXpN75W0AA15Pn?format=jpg&name=small


doomsdaydallas: clearly trump was just visiting epstein island to find out if the rumors were true, he did not engage in any activities.

I was going to say Off the Court is so gullible, since I assumed that he was the one who posted the picture.

If you look at the image, both the fake Trump and Epstein have 3 legs.

If you look at fake Trump's 2 right legs, he has one right leg in a regular position, and another right leg over what would be an amputated left leg.

[highwhey]

i see nothing wrong with the legitimacy of the photo. of course, it's up to you to prove he wasn't on that plane and that the plane did not go to epstein island. i will need the statements (video+signed testimony) of 10 witnesses. :cheers:

[Off the Court]

https://indignatie.nl/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Eb90vNMU4AAjGHa.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcAeLCiXYAA-93f.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm0Wps_XwAUgx4w.jpg


Which of these are fake?

[Off the Court]

https://youtu.be/_F6iUNASWkg

Epstein: " I was Trump's closest friend for 10 years"

That doesn't mean he was guilty though of coarse.


I'm sure that all of Al Capone's closest buddies were good law abiding citizens.

[1987_Lakers]

If Trump was on the list they would have exposed this years ago when Democrats were in power. This goes well beyond Trump. There are some powerful people all over the world on that list and all hell would break loose if the list got out. Trump caved.

[Baller234]

Off The Court you're getting really desperate now. :oldlol:

No one is denying that Trump didn't have a relationship with Epstein. Showing the two of them appearing in photos together proves nothing.

Barack Obama appears in several photos with convicted rapist Harvey Weinsten and his wife even referred to him as a family friend. Joe Biden campaigned with Cardi B who admittedly drugged and robbed innocent men. He also called former KKK grand wizard, Robert Byrd, his good friend and mentor. Kamala Harris was very close with - and appears in several photos with - Jussie Smollet who staged a faked a hate crime and tried to start a national race war.

If we're expected to operate using your air tight logic, all of them are guilty by association because they were pictured at the same time.

[jstern]

https://indignatie.nl/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Eb90vNMU4AAjGHa.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcAeLCiXYAA-93f.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fm0Wps_XwAUgx4w.jpg


Which of these are fake?

This is why everybody thinks you have a low IQ, because your brain cannot process multiple basic details at once. It's very low IQ to take images of two well known and connected guys at parties and social events with other well known and famous people and conclude that one person is guilty because he took pictures with a person who later got in trouble with the law. A person with basic IQ will know that famous people go to similar events, share similar famous friends, and will even have ways to get in touch, but it doesn't mean they are best friends.

As far as those tapes, which came out in the middle of an election, instead of when they were recorded. It's just some untrustworthy, sadistic asshole (Epstein) making claims that would smear Trump. If they were close friends for ten years, then as a famous guy, there would be actual proof of them being close (Yes, I realize that with your limited, low IQ you think event images at social gatherings are smoking gun proof).

The truth of the matter is that Trump turned down multiple invitations to Epstein's island and his Palm Beach home, which a close friend would never do, and Trump even kicked him out of Mar o Lago for hitting on a teenager.

[Baller234]

i see nothing wrong with the legitimacy of the photo.

Wow.. turns out "If you m@sturbate too much you'll go blind" wasn't just a myth. :oldlol: