ESPN's Around The Horn goes out with a whimper, dies on the woke mountain

[Baller234]

As you may or may not know, ESPN's Around The Horn is set to be cancelled in two weeks after an impressive 23 year run.

I have to say when the show first came out I actually enjoyed it more than PTI. I really enjoyed the intensity of the discussions and the ball breaking banter. I even continued watching after Kellerman was replaced with Reali.

I wanna say it was around the time when Bomani Jones became a regular where the show just took a total nosedive. Everything became racial and political and the show started having on more "diverse" members and everyone would go off on these woke tangents. Then they started adding more female cast members into to the mix and before long what used to be a hard hitting show where old school guys duked it out over sports became this very soft, very safe kid glove type show. Trump being elected is what really did them in though. The TDS was just off the charts and the show became unwatchable.

So in the lead-up to the grand finale, as the show is about to be cancelled because everyone jumped ship and no one is watching anymore, here is woke lesbian Kate Fagan talking about the importance of standing up for trans kids and trans athletes.

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1920607080601231601

Bravo Kate. :oldlol:


R.I.P. Around The Horn

Was fun while it lasted.

[warriorfan]

I used to watch it sometimes along time ago and it was decent. I have only watched it a few times in the last years. I still sometimes will put on PTI if I’m doing some stuff around the house and have it in the background.

[Neal Romer]

Everything comes to pass. Every generation sees things it once loved come and go.

Dont let it dishearten you, altho I understand thats easier said than done. Just keep trying to find new enjoyments when the old ones disappear.

It's part of the life experience. Nothing is supposed to stay the same. Once you adjust your expectations accordingly I think it becomes a bit easier to accept.

[Off the Court]

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I know you just wanted to say 'BAD WOKE!" in here but you know what is actually going to get you? When ESPN in it's entirety gets shut down.

Sport Center gone

ESPN 2 gone
ESPNews gone

all of it gone


As well as every other cable channel.

Cable is dying. 5% less viewers every single year.

[Meticode]

I stopped watching ATH probably six or seven years ago. I just wasn't ever home to watch it nor did I care about that much to record it or anything.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea I don't know about the "Woke Mountain", guy. I stopped watching after college really. It was great for its time but there's just more interesting and accessible ways to consume sports content now. Even in its prime it wouldn't work as well now.

[Baller234]

Yea I don't know about the "Woke Mountain", guy. I stopped watching after college really. It was great for its time but there's just more interesting and accessible ways to consume sports content now. Even in its prime it wouldn't work as well now.

So then why isn't PTI being cancelled? In fact when it was first announced ATH was being cancelled, there were rumors circulating that PTI would be expanded to the full hour time slot.

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/pardon-the-interruption-expand-around-horn-cancellation.html

I guess PTI still brings in adequate viewership for them. Not as many woke lesbians browbeating the viewers at home into accepting men in women's sports or putting children on puberty blockers.

[RRR3]

So then why isn't PTI being cancelled? In fact when it was first announced ATH was being cancelled, there were rumors circulating that PTI would be expanded to the full hour time slot.

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/pardon-the-interruption-expand-around-horn-cancellation.html

I guess PTI still brings in adequate viewership for them. Not as many woke lesbians browbeating the viewers at home into accepting men in women's sports or putting children on puberty blockers.
^typed in his klan robes

[Im so nba'd out]

Lets go round the horn
Max is in rare form
(insert other lyrics i forgot)
That's Around The Horn!
Weekdaysssss at 5!

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that commercial was goated. cant find it on youtube when i just searched. Stopped watching ATH in 04-06 when max left.

[Baller234]

that commercial was goated. cant find it on youtube when i just searched. Stopped watching ATH in 04-06 when max left.

After he left the real niccas were watching I,Max

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[BurningHammer]

Fueled by hatred, even for a TV show. :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

So then why isn't PTI being cancelled? In fact when it was first announced ATH was being cancelled, there were rumors circulating that PTI would be expanded to the full hour time slot.

https://awfulannouncing.com/espn/pardon-the-interruption-expand-around-horn-cancellation.html

I guess PTI still brings in adequate viewership for them. Not as many woke lesbians browbeating the viewers at home into accepting men in women's sports or putting children on puberty blockers.

Several reasons. Mainly I'd imagine they still have the same likeable dudes as always.

[BurningHammer]

Several reasons. Mainly I'd imagine they still have the same likeable dudes as always.

What to hate about Kornheiser and Wilbon?

[1987_Lakers]

Haven't had cable in years so I just assumed ATH was canceled years ago. I watched that show every day after middle school way back in the mid 2000's. I didn't know shows like that still existed in today's age. Woody Paige was the GOAT on that show. He was the likeable Skip Bayless.

[Baller234]

Several reasons. Mainly I'd imagine they still have the same likeable dudes as always.

But doesn't that undermine your argument? You said that ATH was being cancelled due to a change in how people consume content, but PTI being kept on the schedule because they have likable personalities would totally contradict that claim.

You're only proving my point. People tuned out from ATH because the rotating cast members weren't likable.

[Wardell Curry]

I don't like the left and I don't like the right but I REALLY don't like the left because some of them are so incredibly brain dead radical like that stupid lesbo in the clip in the OP.

There's a real easy solution to the trans people in sports issue. Just simply abolish gendered sports and that's it.

All the stupid ass women who are the majority of support for this dumbass shit would change their tune quick.

It's either that or we need some men that aren't quite good enough to make it into the men's leagues to start trolling and claiming to be trans so they can dominate the women's leagues.

[warriorfan]

Actually the last time I watched the show I did notice how it seemed to be getting over the top preachy and trying to be deep. Taking itself way too seriously. It succeeded when it stuck to being a fun and frivolous show.

[ShawkFactory]

But doesn't that undermine your argument? You said that ATH was being cancelled due to a change in how people consume content, but PTI being kept on the schedule because they have likable personalities would totally contradict that claim.

You're only proving my point. People tuned out from ATH because the rotating cast members weren't likable.

Fair enough, although I’m sure that PTI viewership isn’t near what it once was either. And I’d also imagine it was always a little higher rated than ATH anyway.

Once the show lost the classic folks like Woody Paige, Mariotti, Adande, Cowlishaw, Jackie Macmullen, etc. then people are naturally going to lose interest as well. And on top of that most of the top younger sports content creators now are using different mediums so the new ESPN folks are second-rate.

[Bill Gates]

I don't like the left and I don't like the right but I REALLY don't like the left because some of them are so incredibly brain dead radical like that stupid lesbo in the clip in the OP.

There's a real easy solution to the trans people in sports issue. Just simply abolish gendered sports and that's it.

All the stupid ass women who are the majority of support for this dumbass shit would change their tune quick.

It's either that or we need some men that aren't quite good enough to make it into the men's leagues to start trolling and claiming to be trans so they can dominate the women's leagues.

It should just be up the league itself. They should be able to make their own rules. The Gov should be out of it completely. If they want to make it all genders they can, if they want to check for v@ginas they can. If they want to allow cats and dogs to play they can. It's their sport. The "trans issue" isn't a real issue because it's just a damn game. It's not serious.

[warriorfan]

It should just be up the league itself. They should be able to make their own rules. The Gov should be out of it completely. If they want to make it all genders they can, if they want to check for v@ginas they can. If they want to allow cats and dogs to play they can. It's their sport. The "trans issue" isn't a real issue because it's just a damn game. It's not serious.

If it’s not serious then it’s not a big deal that they can’t play

[Bill Gates]

If it’s not serious then it’s not a big deal that they can’t play

Correct

[Bill Gates]

Any of us can start our own sports league if we wanted. None of us should have the Gov dictating our sports rules. Needs to be up to the league.

[warriorfan]

Any of us can start our own sports league if we wanted. None of us should have the Gov dictating our sports rules. Needs to be up to the league.

It’s not a big deal. You can make a tranny league if you want. Shut the f.uck up about it.

[Wardell Curry]

Well the problem comes with stuff like the olympics and high schools/colleges.

The pro leagues just will sort themselves out for the most part. I wonder why they haven't already had trans in the pro leagues eh? Anyone wonder about that?

I'm pretty sure all the WNBA lesbos would not be ok with a trans coming in and dominating their league lol.

[Baller234]

It should just be up the league itself. They should be able to make their own rules. The Gov should be out of it completely. If they want to make it all genders they can, if they want to check for v@ginas they can. If they want to allow cats and dogs to play they can. It's their sport. The "trans issue" isn't a real issue because it's just a damn game. It's not serious.

This is truly rich. So now you're saying you're perfectly fine if a league doesn't want trans women playing with cis women? So long as it's their decision?

Isn't that still discrimination? Doesn't that trample on the rights of trans people?

I thought the biggest bone of contention was the whole discrimination thing, but now you're saying you're okay with discrimination so long as the government isn't involved? Do you have any moral principle at all? By that same logic, I guess that means you would be okay with some racist white store owner not allowing black people into his store?

Are you even an ally to the trans community or were you pretending the entire time?

[Bill Gates]

This is truly rich. So now you're saying you're perfectly fine if a league doesn't want trans women playing with cis women? So long as it's their decision?

Isn't that still discrimination? Doesn't that trample on the rights of trans people?

I thought the biggest bone of contention was the whole discrimination thing, but now you're saying you're okay with discrimination so long as the government isn't involved? Do you have any moral principle at all? By that same logic, I guess that means you would be okay with some racist white store owner not allowing black people into his store?

Are you even an ally to the trans community or were you pretending the entire time?

I've always said this is a nothing-burger.

None of it matters, it's literally just a game. Humans bouncing or kicking a ball around.

It's just tribal fodder for both sides to pretend they care. When in reality they're are only tiny small handful of people this matters to, and those people will be okay of they can't play a meaningless game. Or if they play their opponents will be okay if they lose that game. Sports in general is just entertainment, and the idea that the Gov should dictate how we play our games is ridiculous. We should be able to play games how ever we want to.

[warriorfan]

Well the problem comes with stuff like the olympics and high schools/colleges.

The pro leagues just will sort themselves out for the most part. I wonder why they haven't already had trans in the pro leagues eh? Anyone wonder about that?

I'm pretty sure all the WNBA lesbos would not be ok with a trans coming in and dominating their league lol.

Poster Gates would simply explain to the dykes that this isn’t even a big deal and they shouldn’t even care about this anyway.

Then all of ladies would beat the shit out of him on the spot.

[Baller234]

I've always said this is a nothing-burger.

None of it matters, it's literally just a game. Humans bouncing or kicking a ball around.

It's just tribal fodder for both sides to pretend they care. When in reality they're are only tiny small handful of people this matters to, and those people will be okay of they can't play a meaningless game. Or if they play their opponents will be okay if they lose that game. Sports in general is just entertainment, and the idea that the Gov should dictate how we play our games is ridiculous. We should be able to play games how ever we want to.

Sports aren’t just about winning trophies, they are a vital part of personal growth and development. For many kids, sports offer life skills such as discipline, teamwork, resilience, and leadership. To dismiss the importance of sports is to overlook how deeply they shape character and help individuals build self esteem and confidence. It's no surprise that some of the most inspirational people in culture are athletes.

Competing in sports also opens doors to scholarships and other professional opportunities. For many people, sports are one of the few ways to access higher education or advance their careers. So there's that too.

So don't say that none of this is important. That's cowardly and that's deflecting from the real issue at hand. It's about preserving the existence of female only spaces and making sure females of all ages have the right to compete fairly. Clearly some part of you agrees with this because you just said you would be okay with excluding trans women. You're really just a giant hypocrite all around.

I predict that in 10 years time you won't be able to find a single person who ever admitted to supporting this insanity. Thankfully their social media posts are etched in history.

[Bill Gates]

Sports aren’t just about winning trophies, they are a vital part of personal growth and development. For many kids, sports offer life skills such as discipline, teamwork, resilience, and leadership. To dismiss the importance of sports is to overlook how deeply they shape character and help individuals build self esteem and confidence. It's no surprise that some of the most inspirational people in culture are athletes.

Competing in sports also opens doors to scholarships and other professional opportunities. For many people, sports are one of the few ways to access higher education or advance their careers. So there's that too.

So don't say that none of this is important. That's cowardly and that's deflecting from the real issue at hand. It's about preserving the existence of female only spaces and making sure females of all ages have the right to compete fairly. Clearly some part of you agrees with this because you just said you would be okay with excluding trans women. You're really just a giant hypocrite all around.

I predict that in 10 years time you won't be able to find a single person who ever admitted to supporting this insanity. Thankfully their social media posts are etched in history.

None of those things you listed are dependent on the outcome of the game and it's an absolute joke that any one who posts in here pretends to care about this.

How many WNBA games have you watched? This is a basketball forum and even here there is ZERO talk of WNBA.

There are threads for 2017 on the front page of the WNBA forum. But the fairness of their games is of vital importance to you? Give me a break.

[Bill Gates]

Many of you label covid a nothing burger because 99.9% survival rate.

Sports games affected by a trans dude? 0.000000000000001%

Survival rate? 100%

:oldlol:

[warriorfan]

None of those things you listed are dependent on the outcome of the game and it's an absolute joke that any one who posts in here pretends to care about this.

How many WNBA games have you watched? This is a basketball forum and even here there is ZERO talk of WNBA.

There are threads for 2017 on the front page of the WNBA forum. But the fairness of their games is of vital importance to you? Give me a break.

If Baller doesn’t watch WNBA…

That means all Woman’s sports at all levels doesn’t mean anything. No life lessons and positive experiences to be gained from. Not positive outlets for girls with not a lot of other opportunities. Literally nothing matters!

Since Baller doesn’t watch WNBA I think it’s safe we can say we can cancel all Women’s sports at every level….because it simply doesn’t matter!


Gates logic :lol :roll: :roll:

[Bill Gates]

Positive life lessons?

I have adult daughters that played sports growing up. If they faced LeBron James one game it erases it all?

They would have gotten their ass kicked that game, then that night ate dinner and gone to bed. Just like all the other games they lost.

It's literally just a game.

[Bill Gates]

Warriorfan needs the Government to tell him how he can play games.

[warriorfan]

Warriorfan needs the Government to tell him how he can play games.

You need to get an iq above double digits.

[Bill Gates]

You need to get an iq above double digits.
Says the guy who thinks the final score of 3rd grade soccer game is highly important :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Says the guy who thinks the final score of 3rd grade soccer game is highly important :oldlol:

You have low iq and are gay.

[Wardell Curry]

You have low iq and are gay.

:roll:

[Baller234]

Bill Gates are you lying about have a wife and kids?

I just don't believe you have a family of your own and you never supported your own kids. Why even get them involved in sports in the first place? Since sports are so meaningless and none of it matters.

Seriously asking here.

[Bill Gates]

Bill Gates are you lying about have a wife and kids?

I just don't believe you have a family of your own and you never supported your own kids. Why even get them involved in sports in the first place? Since sports are so meaningless and none of it matters.

Seriously asking here.

I have three kids, all played sports for lots of reasons, for entertainment, exercise, teamwork, ect.

It's the final score that is meaningless. It's the difference in the general American life that is nothing. What happens in some random girls sport means little them, and absolutely nothing at all to me or you. This subject is literally just meaningless tribal fodder for those who suffer political internet addiction.

[Bill Gates]

It just needs to be the league itself that decides what the rules are. Not the Government.

Leagues should dictate their own games.

No one is forced to play in them. If you don't like the rules? Don't play. It's just a game.

[Baller234]

I have three kids, all played sports for lots of reasons, for entertainment, exercise, teamwork, ect.

It's the final score that is meaningless. It's the difference in the general American life that is nothing. What happens in some random girls sport means little them, and absolutely nothing at all to me or you. This subject is literally just meaningless tribal fodder for those who suffer political internet addiction.

It's only been reduced to "fodder" because the push back was harsh and severe. It wasn't always like this. Several years back some of this stuff wasn't up for debate and you could be punished for not complying.

Had the woke cult kept gaining ground, the end goal would have eventually resulted in the total abolishment of legally allowed male and female only spaces. Because if you can't exclude trans people on the soccer field, or in the locker room, or at school, or at work, or on social media, or in prison... then you're basically saying you want to live in a totally genderless society.

That is creepy, weird and disturbing. And it would totally undo society as we know it.

Why do you want to live in a genderless society?? Again I'm seriously asking here.

[Bill Gates]

It's only been reduced to "fodder" because the push back was harsh and severe. It wasn't always like this. Several years back some of this stuff wasn't up for debate and you could be punished for not complying.

Had the woke cult kept gaining ground, the end goal would have eventually resulted in the total abolishment of legally allowed male and female only spaces. Because if you can't exclude trans people on the soccer field, or in the locker room, or at school, or at work, or on social media, or in prison... then you're basically saying you want to live in a totally genderless society.

That is creepy, weird and disturbing. And it would totally undo society as we know it.

Why do you want to live in a genderless society?? Again I'm seriously asking here.

This is called a strawman. Saying the Gov should not regulate our sports =/= genderless society.

If a sports league wants to exclude trans, that's 100% fine. If they want to include trans that is also 100% fine. It's their game. Let them decide the rules to their own game.

[Baller234]

This is called a strawman. Saying the Gov should not regulate our sports =/= genderless society.

If a sports league wants to exclude trans, that's 100% fine. If they want to include trans that is also 100% fine. It's their game. Let them decide the rules to their own game.

So as a member of society you don't have any personal stake in this? Lol. You don't care if we live in a genderless society or not? Since there's no commonly agreed upon definition, I guess everyone just gets to declare what a boy or girl is on their own in your ideal scenario?

To normal people that sounds like the basis for a horror movie, but for Bill Gates it's 100% fine.


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[warriorfan]

I would bet 10 grand that Gates is on some sort of SSRI’s.

This dude is beyond cooked.

[Bill Gates]

So as a member of society you don't have any personal stake in this? Lol. You don't care if we live in a genderless society or not? Since there's no commonly agreed upon definition, I guess everyone just gets to declare what a boy or girl is on their own in your ideal scenario?

To normal people that sounds like the basis for a horror movie, but for Bill Gates it's 100% fine.


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Genderless society? How many trans people do you personally know? My kids all played sports, this issue didn't come up even once. Out of literally thousands of games. Basketball, soccer, baseball, softball.

Also, society would still have the same amount of them if they played sports or not lol. Use logic.

[Bill Gates]

You pretend to care about girls sports, because tribal politics told you to.

This topic right here, no matter which side you are on, brings out the sheep.

[Baller234]

Genderless society? How many trans people do you personally know? My kids all played sports, this issue didn't come up even once. Out of literally thousands of games. Basketball, soccer, baseball, softball.

Also, society would still have the same amount of them if they played sports or not lol. Use logic.

Are you using logic? In the last 10 years we've seen the number of people who identify as trans increase a hundred fold. You think that happened by accident? You don't think the mainstream promotion of transgenderism had anything to do with that?

Trans athletes are the minority for the time being but the goal of the movement has always been to encourage more people and more kids to come out as trans, therefore your argument is totally moot and we have to draw a hard line in the sand before that number increases.

But hey since it's really just about numbers to you and not some underlying principle, how many male players would you allow on a WNBA roster? I'm sure there are plenty of guys coming out of college who fell just short of making the NBA who would love the chance to travel and play professionally.

So how many male players on each team would you allow? One? Two? How many is too many?

[BurningHammer]

Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:

[Baller234]

Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:

This guy still thinks it's 2015 and the cool kids are all on the pro-tranny train. :oldlol:

Sorry buddy, you guys lost this one. You're on the wrong side of history with the mentally disturbed losers and weirdos.

History will mock you for all time.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Are you using logic? In the last 10 years we've seen the number of people who identify as trans increase a hundred fold. You think that happened by accident? You don't think the mainstream promotion of transgenderism had anything to do with that?

Trans athletes are the minority for the time being but the goal of the movement has always been to encourage more people and more kids to come out as trans, therefore your argument is totally moot and we have to draw a hard line in the sand before that number increases.


This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.

[warriorfan]

Hmm, transphobia in action. :cletus:

You just wasted everyone’s time posting this.

No one here gives a shit about weird supposed derogatory terms you literally made up out of thin air thinking it’s gonna shame people into your insane brainwashed ideology.

You are like a hall monitor or rent a cop. You have ZERO power, influence, or authority.

You can attempt to challenge the logic presented to you but you are not going to shut everything down because you don’t have a suitable response.

It might work like that in your very tiny brain but that’s not how things work in reality.

[BurningHammer]

:blah

Look at this methhead wandering around a half-dead message board insulting people. :roll::roll::roll:

[Bill Gates]

This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

[Bill Gates]

This.

But far left libs are calling it “evolution”


The fact that 1 out of 5 kids identify as LGBTQ is not the type of progress going in the right direction. They’d love to see that number grow to 1 out of every 3.

This is an issue of morals, not sports… and we are not here to celebrate and promote mental illness which is what these gender issues are really about: mental health.


If you have the choice for your child to be gay or straight… the common far left liberal answer is that it doesn’t matter…. But any straight man saying that is full of shit, you’d want your child to be straight if you had any common sense…. But now we’re going even further than that and supporting gender affirming care for minors which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes, a hard line in the sand has to be drawn.

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

[Doomsday Dallas]

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

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https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/news/one-five-adult-members-gen-z-self-identifies-lgbtq-rcna36147
1 in 5 adult members of Gen Z self-identify as LGBTQ




It's 1 out of 5 for Gen Z.... LGBQT.


but let me guess... you consider that progress right?

[Doomsday Dallas]

More LGBQT children = Liberal Progress

[Baller234]

1 out 5 don't identify as that. The questionnaire is misleading.

Go to a grocery store, a mall, a sporting event, anything, you'll be lucky to see ONE trans person. In an entire high school there might be 2 or 3.

How many trans people do you know? Answer please. Every time I ask that question it gets ignored. Do you work with any? Do your kids know any? I mean, if it's 1 out 5 they would be everywhere right?

Why does it matter how many there are? We're not against boys in girls sports as it pertains to numbers, we're against it in theory and in principle. It doesn't matter if it's one boy on the girl's team or five. One is too many.

I couldn't help but notice you dodged my question before so I will pose it to you again. Since it's really just about numbers to you, how many male players do you think should be allowed in the WNBA? Are you okay with one male player per team? Two male players? Three?

How many male players is too many before people have a right to complain?

[ShawkFactory]

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https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/news/one-five-adult-members-gen-z-self-identifies-lgbtq-rcna36147
1 in 5 adult members of Gen Z self-identify as LGBTQ




It's 1 out of 5 for Gen Z.... LGBQT.


but let me guess... you consider that progress right?

Chicken or the egg situation, as always.

There are of course certain issues with the way it is portrayed for children but not to the level I think some believe there are. The Millennial numbers tell you more than anything else here. In 2014 the youngest millennials were what, 16-17? And it's doubled since then? That tells me that people are now simply more people willing (and proud I guess) to come out because most were then adults.

In college one of my girlfriend's (now wife's) good friends was gay and hearing him tell stories at the time you'd be shocked at the amount of "straight" fraternity dudes at the University of Georgia had secret hook-ups with him. Less ashamed to admit it these days I suppose. Particularly with an anonymous poll.

Also, is that poll directed at a certain population? Who's answering it?

Again, not to say there aren't issues but those viewing that increase purely as indoctrination or whatever don't know the whole picture.

[RRR3]

Trans is ONE letter in the acronym, most LGBTQ people are not trans :hammerhead:

I can't believe I had to post this

[Doomsday Dallas]

Chicken or the egg situation, as always.

There are of course certain issues with the way it is portrayed for children but not to the level I think some believe there are. The Millennial numbers tell you more than anything else here. In 2014 the youngest millennials were what, 16-17? And it's doubled since then? That tells me that people are now simply more people willing (and proud I guess) to come out because most were then adults.

In college one of my girlfriend's (now wife's) good friends was gay and hearing him tell stories at the time you'd be shocked at the amount of "straight" fraternity dudes at the University of Georgia had secret hook-ups with him. Less ashamed to admit it these days I suppose. Particularly with an anonymous poll.

Also, is that poll directed at a certain population? Who's answering it?

Again, not to say there aren't issues but those viewing that increase purely as indoctrination or whatever don't know the whole picture.





I've already addressed this issue... it's not more people are willing to come out...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg

[ShawkFactory]

I've already addressed this issue... it's not more people are willing to come out...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBzfUj5zsg

You mean Bill Maher “addressed” it? Almost of this video video is focused on the trans piece and ignoring the scores of normal people who have (some more than others) dabbled in same-sex relations. And who are now more willing to admit it. Again, this happens WAY more than you think.

This just doesn’t really refute what I said at all.

Also, use your own words. I don’t need to watch a 9 minute opinion piece of someone saying “cause it’s trendy”. I feel like you could have just said that, even if you got it from him.

I know now only to argue with you using John Oliver clips.

[Baller234]

Trans is ONE letter in the acronym, most LGBTQ people are not trans :hammerhead:

I can't believe I had to post this

It's funny you bring this up actually because I always maintained the alphabet soup grouping is totally unnecessary. The "Q" pretty much covers them all. Ask most people on that side of the fence and they'll tell you that "queer" is an umbrella term for pretty much anyone that doesn't identify as heterosexual or cisgender. Therefore they should either go with LGBT or they should just go with Q, because combining them is redundant.

Imagine there were another LGBT group but it stood for members of European countries. Lithuanians, Germans, Bosnians and Turks... only then some genius decided that it would be called LGBTE and the E would stand for European. Lol what would be the point in that?

:oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

Doomsday ignores my question every single time.

How many trans people do you interact with Dooms? I live in Seattle and it's rare to see one here. So I know it's rare in Texas. But you guys try to sell this retarded notion that all of society is now genderless. What a joke. Anyone can just walk outside to see that's compete nonsense.

[Doomsday Dallas]

You mean Bill Maher “addressed” it? Almost of this video video is focused on the trans piece and ignoring the scores of normal people who have (some more than others) dabbled in same-sex relations. And who are now more willing to admit it. Again, this happens WAY more than you think.

This just doesn’t really refute what I said at all.

Also, use your own words. I don’t need to watch a 9 minute opinion piece of someone saying “cause it’s trendy”. I feel like you could have just said that, even if you got it from him.

I know now only to argue with you using John Oliver clips.



I've addressed this issue several times... several....

Liberals tend to argue that everyone in the LGBTQ community is "born that way".... you'd have to be foolish to believe that.

The environment didn't have anything to do with it?



If society is keeps on encouraging this behavior, the entertainment industry keeps on celebrating it, and everyone keeps on saying there is nothing wrong with it... more & more homosexual children is going to be the result.



And now... here we are doing the same thing with the trans movement.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Doomsday ignores my question every single time.

How many trans people do you interact with Dooms? I live in Seattle and it's rare to see one here. So I know it's rare in Texas. But you guys try to sell this retarded notion that all of society is now genderless. What a joke. Anyone can just walk outside to see that's compete nonsense.


That's the retarded notion we are trying to sell? That the whole nation has now become genderless? That there is a transgender invasion?

https://avatars.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/686d0c1bae835fc76683f27263c207f613617a5f_full.jpg

I've never seen a black person killed by cops, I've never seen a mass shooting... how many people do you interact with? Anybody can go outside and see that BLM and Gun Control Laws are complete nonsense.





When I go outside... I'll tell you what I do see in Texas... that anybody in this state can walk outside and see: Mexicans, Lots of them.

But you still want the Border wide open?


According to new race/ethnic data released by the U.S. Census Bureau last month, Hispanics are estimated to comprise 40.2 percent of the Texas population, versus white people at 39.4 percent.

There's so many Mexicans in Texas that white people are the minority. That should be something for you liberals to celebrate right? Am I right Mr. Seattle w/ 3 daughters?

[Baller234]

I've never seen a black person killed by cops, I've never seen a mass shooting... how many people do you interact with? Anybody can go outside and see that BLM and Gun Control Laws are complete nonsense.

Excellent point.

The number of unarmed black people killed by police each year represents a microscopic fraction of the total number of police killings, but Bill Gates and his ilk were perfectly fine with "peaceful protestors" wreaking havoc for months on end in the name of ending racism and police brutality.

In fact standing up for black people was so important to them, they were willing to risk spreading Covid over it. Mind you this was when the alpha strain was circulating which was the deadliest strain and we were several months away from getting a vaccine.

I mean just look at these super spreader events.

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https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5ed58a433b1f2c5c1faa9511/master/pass/Washington-HoustonGeorgeFloydProtest.jpg

This was all perfectly fine though. Bill Gates had no problem with this. But if you speak out against the trans delusion with the goal of preserving society and gendered spaces... well he has a huge problem with that and you're just being an asshole.

He would really, really like you to shut up about it and focus on more important things.

[diamenz]

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[diamenz]

Doomsday ignores my question every single time.

How many trans people do you interact with Dooms? I live in Seattle and it's rare to see one here. So I know it's rare in Texas. But you guys try to sell this retarded notion that all of society is now genderless. What a joke. Anyone can just walk outside to see that's compete nonsense.

i live in the andersonville neighborhood in chicago. look it up. used to be a neighborhood consisting mostly of swedish immigrants but it's slowly transformed into more or less the trans capital of america.

wtf is a woman? i dunno a lot of times. walking down the street you've gotta be wary.

[Baller234]

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5edfb5407fb935aba6e66241/1:1/w_1706,h_1706,c_limit/Doreen-DemsinKenteCloth.jpg

At least they're 6 feet apart. :oldlol:

[Norcaliblunt]

The same industry of chemists and physicians who pump LeBron up with PEDs are the same people creating trans mofos.

The fact most people can’t see this is hilarious.

If you support any athlete or league, or you yourself uses steroids, hormones, PEDs, etc, whatever. You are supporting unnatural BS and by default supporting the trans movement.

[Norcaliblunt]

40 plus year old men doing TRT unnaturally trying to be 25 year old muscle jocks and a person taking hormones to transition into another sex are basically in the same boat.

Lmao.

[TheMan]

That's the retarded notion we are trying to sell? That the whole nation has now become genderless? That there is a transgender invasion?

https://avatars.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/686d0c1bae835fc76683f27263c207f613617a5f_full.jpg

I've never seen a black person killed by cops, I've never seen a mass shooting... how many people do you interact with? Anybody can go outside and see that BLM and Gun Control Laws are complete nonsense.





When I go outside... I'll tell you what I do see in Texas... that anybody in this state can walk outside and see: Mexicans, Lots of them.

But you still want the Border wide open?



There's so many Mexicans in Texas that white people are the minority. That should be something for you liberals to celebrate right? Am I right Mr. Seattle w/ 3 daughters?

Texas was part of Mexico, if you don't like that, go back to Europe where your ancestors came from.

[Bill Gates]

Texas was part of Mexico, if you don't like that, go back to Europe where your ancestors came from.

He still COMPLETELY ignored my question and flipped the topic into Mexicans. But what is really crazy about that is that supposedly his wife and children are in fact Mexican. He hates his own family.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Texas was part of Mexico, if you don't like that, go back to Europe where your ancestors came from.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMzJ5Z7zBw

[Doomsday Dallas]

He still COMPLETELY ignored my question and flipped the topic into Mexicans. But what is really crazy about that is that supposedly his wife and children are in fact Mexican. He hates his own family.



Your question is irrelevant... because it does not matter how many trans people I encounter or interact with on a daily basis, but I have noticed they've become more & more common.

I simply do not support Transgenderism... But because I don't support Transgenderism or Homosexuality... that must mean I hate these people right?

Go on any dating website... scroll through 100 profiles, and one of them will read "I'm a transgender"... and that's the DFW area.

And yes, my children do see them at their schools they attend.


But who made the transgender issue an issue to begin with? Liberals or Conservatives?

It's not like Conservatives suddenly and randomly said to themselves: "These tranny's have got to be stopped!!!"

Liberals FORCED the issue on the masses... and America responded. Simple as that.



If you're going to have Pride Night at a Baseball game... and you bring these people out:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/06/17/03/72236119-12204993-image-a-38_1686967888642.jpg

I'm not gonna celebrate that $hit, neither is America.... There is nothing to be proud about that.

These people should have the same amount of pride that I have whenever I watch porn... which is ZERO.


The Olympics Opening ceremony?

https://images.hindustantimes.com/img/2024/07/27/550x309/Philippe_Katerine_1722044836103_1722044843309.jpg

Yea, that's perfectly normal. These are exactly the types of things I want my children to see on a regular basis.

In my opinion we aren't celebrating and promoting this stuff enough right?

https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/torontosun/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/mulvaney_bud_can-e1683051509859.jpg



Nothing wrong with this at all? You Liberals really want to support this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiAYKfKyzeQ





It may be a small percentage of the population... let's hope it stays that way.

Forgive me for not rallying behind gender affirming care for minors or any of this mental illness.

[Doomsday Dallas]

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If we continue to say there is nothing wrong with it... Then more of it is what you get.

But that's the message Liberals continue to preach to their kids... "Nothing wrong with it."



At what point do you start to say there is something wrong with that?

Bill Maher, a hardcore Democrat finally said something.... but none of the liberals on insidehoops are able to do the same.


Maybe... just maybe... there is an issue with Too Much Pride on the Left Side?

can't admit to being wrong? Take a page out of the Bill Maher playbook and swallow your pride for once...



You don't have to leave the Democratic Plantation... but Jesus Christ, please stop supporting insanity.

[Baller234]

Bill Gates having the nerve to accuse someone else in this thread of dodging questions.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Bill Gates having the nerve to accuse someone else in this thread of dodging questions.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj8zttSOtdg


it's because our line of questioning is opening up people to violence.

[Bill Gates]

Trans people do not affect my life in any way shape or form, therefor I do not care what they do. I rarely ever see them, and I live in liberal Seattle.

Aren't you guys supposed to be the ones that support "FREEDOM"? But you're ready to have a gay holocaust because people won't live their life the way you want them to. There is a word for that, it's called fascism.

[Baller234]

Trans people do not affect my life in any way shape or form, therefor I do not care what they do. I rarely ever see them, and I live in liberal Seattle.

Aren't you guys supposed to be the ones that support "FREEDOM"? But you're ready to have a gay holocaust because people won't live their life the way you want them to. There is a word for that, it's called fascism.

Okay then answer the question, which has already been posed to you twice.

How many male players should each WNBA team be allowed to have?

[Bill Gates]

Okay then answer the question, which has already been posed to you twice.

How many male players should each WNBA team be allowed to have?

How ever many the league wants to allow.

ZERO or TWELEVE

Makes no difference to me. I don't watch.

Throw Lebron on a WNBA team, I might watch that though, would be good entertainment. And that is all professional sport are, entertainment. It is not of any actual importance.

[Baller234]

How ever many the league wants to allow.

ZERO or TWELEVE

Makes no difference to me. I don't watch.

Throw Lebron on a WNBA team, I might watch that though, would be good entertainment. And that is all professional sport are, entertainment. It is not of any actual importance.

What do you mean it makes no difference?

What do you think happens to the WNBA if all 12 members of the team are male? :oldlol:

Just say you want to eradicate female sports and female spaces and be done with it.

[Bill Gates]

WNBA should throw out a trans player just for the sake of their ratings. Would make them profitable.

If I were in charge, I'd do it. Watch the right's heads explode while the left defends.

Meanwhile it's all over nothing more than humans bouncing a ball around :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

Bill Gates with a double digit iq meltdown :roll: :roll:

This dude is the most pathetic guy, for real.

[Baller234]

Bill Gates with a double digit iq meltdown :roll: :roll:

This dude is the most pathetic guy, for real.

Bill Gates:

"What? You're accusing me of wanting to live in a genderless society? That's crazy!"

Also Bill Gates:

"Who cares about female sports? Replace them all with males I say! Doesn't matter to me!"


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[Doomsday Dallas]

But you're ready to have a gay holocaust because people won't live their life the way you want them to. There is a word for that, it's called fascism.

Now it's a Gay Holocaust?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23lrgu5hKa8

[Norcaliblunt]

Now it's a Gay Holocaust?

https://c.tenor.com/cY8soUJw424AAAAd/tenor.gif










https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23lrgu5hKa8



Do you support Joe Rogan and LeBron unnaturally trying to be 25 year old men?

Do you support any man unnaturally using hormones to HE-MAN up?

What if I’m sparring or rolling with you in a gym man to man.

Is ok for you or me to be on hormones?

Answer the questions please.

[Norcaliblunt]

Bill Gates:

"What? You're accusing me of wanting to live in a genderless society? That's crazy!"

Also Bill Gates:

"Who cares about female sports? Replace them all with males I say! Doesn't matter to me!"


https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Do you support Joe Rogan and LeBron unnaturally trying to be 25 year old men?

Do you support any man unnaturally using hormones to HE-MAN up?

What if I’m sparring or rolling with you in a gym man to man.

Is ok for you or me to be on hormones?

Answer the questions please.

[Norcaliblunt]

Homies wherever you are from, are you more likely to walk into the gym and have to spar or roll with a trans person or a dude jacked up on roids?

Personally have you actually seen a trans dude come in and try to spar with your girl or daughter?

I want actual anecdotes on this shit. Not sensational press bullcrap.

[Norcaliblunt]

Let’s face it….a female jacking herself up to male levels with common drugs to demolish your natural daughter is ok.

Buy a male wrenching himself down with drugs to even the playing field with your daughter is not cool.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Positive life lessons?

I have adult daughters that played sports growing up. If they faced LeBron James one game it erases it all?

They would have gotten their ass kicked that game, then that night ate dinner and gone to bed. Just like all the other games they lost.

It's literally just a game.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hae6fBrGkQ

[Bill Gates]

The House and Senate both rejected Trump's trans sports ban.

You know why? For the exact reason I first posted in here. It should be up to the league to decide, you know, the ones that created their own game. The Government should not be involved.


I mean, what is next? You want Trump to tell us how we can and can't play Monopoly? Should it be illegal for children to play vs adults because they are disadvantaged? :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

The House and Senate both rejected Trump's trans sports ban.

You know why? For the exact reason I first posted in here. It should be up to the league to decide, you know, the ones that created their own game. The Government should not be involved.


I mean, what is next? You want Trump to tell us how we can and can't play Monopoly? Should it be illegal for children to play vs adults because they are disadvantaged? :oldlol:

You are a miserable low iq f.aggot.

[Bill Gates]

You are a miserable low iq f.aggot.

You need Trump to dictate how you play games.

[warriorfan]

You need Trump to dictate how you play games.

You have low iq and hate yourself.

[Bill Gates]

You have low iq and hate yourself.

Your brain is soupy toxic meth mush and you want Trump to rape you.

[warriorfan]

Your brain is soupy toxic meth mush and you want Trump to rape you.

….

Bro you are like a literal child. lol

[Baller234]

The House and Senate both rejected Trump's trans sports ban.

You know why? For the exact reason I first posted in here. It should be up to the league to decide, you know, the ones that created their own game. The Government should not be involved.


I mean, what is next? You want Trump to tell us how we can and can't play Monopoly? Should it be illegal for children to play vs adults because they are disadvantaged? :oldlol:

Lol no, the "leagues" don't get decide what a male or female is.

What's hilarious about your stance is that it totally goes against what the democrats were advocating for in the first place. It was never about letting people decide, it was about ending discrimination. I already brought this to your attention in a previous post, but this would be no different than allowing a grocery store owner to ban black people from his business because it's his decision.

So if the democrats actually do try and pivot to "well we should just let the people decide", it would actually be a total betrayal of the trans community and it would expose their lies and motivations from the jump. I mean of all people you should be furious. This is one of the main issues that got Evil Orange Face elected and that was the worst day of your life. But now all of a sudden it was never about discrimination and it was just about giving people the right to choose? Lol if you had any dignity whatsoever you would be totally appalled at the democratic party for making this into an issue in the first place.

But we know why you can't do that, because that would mean ceding ground to Evil Orange Face and his evil bigoted followers. Your TDS and your woke mind virus compels you to disagree. That is why you can't bring yourself to call out the sheer insanity of it all. You claim it's not a big deal to you but that's the problem, it should be. Imposing genderless rules on sports and on society at large is very weird and very creepy. You shouldn't have to be a republican or a democrat to call it out for what it is.

So in short, you have all but admitted:

- You blame republicans for this being a polarizing issue even though democrats are 100% to blame
- You don't think it's important to preserve gender only spaces in society (VERY WEIRD)
- You don't think girls should ever be entitled to compete amongst themselves (VERY WEIRD)
- You believe in the plight of trans people but you're okay discriminating against them

The woke mind virus is a very real, very dangerous thing I'm afraid.

It's not too late Bill Gates. There's always God.

[Bill Gates]

….

Bro you are like a literal child. lol

You came in here with the low IQ child shit :lol


you: ur low and IQ and gay

me: no you are

you: STOP BEING CHILDISH!!!!

:oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

Lol no, the "leagues" don't get decide what a male or female is.

What's hilarious about your stance is that it totally goes against what the democrats were advocating for in the first place. It was never about letting people decide, it was about ending discrimination. I already brought this to your attention in a previous post, but this would be no different than allowing a grocery store owner to ban black people from his business because it's his decision.

So if the democrats actually do try and pivot to "well we should just let the people decide", it would actually be a total betrayal of the trans community and it would expose their lies and motivations from the jump. I mean of all people you should be furious. This is one of the main issues that got Evil Orange Face elected and that was the worst day of your life. But now all of a sudden it was never about discrimination and it was just about giving people the right to choose? Lol if you had any dignity whatsoever you would be totally appalled at the democratic party for making this into an issue in the first place.

But we know why you can't do that, because that would mean ceding ground to Evil Orange Face and his evil bigoted followers. Your TDS and your woke mind virus compels you to disagree. That is why you can't bring yourself to call out the sheer insanity of it all. You claim it's not a big deal to you but that's the problem, it should be. Imposing genderless rules on sports and on society at large is very weird and very creepy. You shouldn't have to be a republican or a democrat to call it out for what it is.

So in short, you have all but admitted:

- You blame republicans for this being a polarizing issue even though democrats are 100% to blame
- You don't think it's important to preserve gender only spaces in society (VERY WEIRD)
- You don't think girls should ever be entitled to compete amongst themselves (VERY WEIRD)
- You believe in the plight of trans people but you're okay discriminating against them

The woke mind virus is a very real, very dangerous thing I'm afraid.

It's not too late Bill Gates. There's always God.

The leagues get to decide whatever they want, it's literally THEIR GAME :oldlol:

They make the rules to their own game.

If they want to allow cats and dog to play, they can.

I don't care what Dems are saying, I don't care what is fair or what isn't. The way it should go is the way that Congress decided. It should be up to the leauges themselves.

No one is forced to play, anyone who doesn't like the rules can play in a different league or not play at all.

[highwhey]

You came in here with the low IQ child shit :lol


you: ur low and IQ and gay

me: no you are

you: STOP BEING CHILDISH!!!!

:oldlol:

:lol his lack of self awareness is astounding

[Baller234]

The leagues get to decide whatever they want, it's literally THEIR GAME :oldlol:

They make the rules to their own game.

If they want to allow cats and dog to play, they can.

I don't care what Dems are saying, I don't care what is fair or what isn't. The way it should go is the way that Congress decided. It should be up to the leauges themselves.

No one is forced to play, anyone who doesn't like the rules can play in a different league or not play at all.

So by that same rationale, you're okay with a racist store banning black people because it's THEIR store?

[warriorfan]

You came in here with the low IQ child shit :lol


you: ur low and IQ and gay

me: no you are

you: STOP BEING CHILDISH!!!!

:oldlol:

Something tells me you got bullied insanely hard as a child :roll:


:lol his lack of self awareness is astounding

Same with this goofy ass fat beaner.

[Norcaliblunt]

MAGA literally supports men using hormones.

Trump is on hormones.

Joe Rogan is on hormones.

Your favorite athlete is on hormones.

LMAO!!!!!!

[Norcaliblunt]

When girls jack themselves up with drugs to dude levels to destroy your daughters no one cares.

When boys jack themselves up to HeMan levels to destroy your sons no one cares.

Shit is very funny.

[Norcaliblunt]

Nobody here actually goes to different gyms and spars.

Everyone on this forum speaking on this topic is probably a fat person with no children.

Lmao.


SOMEBODY PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!!

Is it ok for a random 50 year old dude to be on steroids and you have to spar or roll with guy thinking he’s natural?

Answer this shit please.

[warriorfan]

Hey just a heads up when you post 3x in a row and no one responds it’s telling that you are just being unhinged and whatever point you are trying to make isn’t even worth addressing

legit not trying to troll or talk shit. just heads up

[Bill Gates]

Hey just a heads up when you post 3x in a row and no one responds it’s telling that you are just being unhinged and whatever point you are trying to make isn’t even worth addressing

legit not trying to troll or talk shit. just heads up

You read all 3 of his posts and have no answer to his point.

legit not trying to troll or talk shit. just heads up

[Baller234]

Hey just a heads up when you post 3x in a row and no one responds it’s telling that you are just being unhinged and whatever point you are trying to make isn’t even worth addressing

legit not trying to troll or talk shit. just heads up

:oldlol:

[warriorfan]

You read all 3 of his posts and have no answer to his point.

legit not trying to troll or talk shit. just heads up

You have such a low iq, i’m not getting paid to try to explain obvious shit to your handicapped ass. Figure it out on your own time brother.