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gengiskhan
05-16-2025, 08:44 PM
1990 Bulls went ECF deep 7th game. LOST. almost 100 games played/.
1991 Bulls go all the way. WIN championship. almost 100 games played
1992 Bulls go DEFEND and REPEAT championship go even deeper. 7-game series. followed by TWO 6-game series. 100+ games played

1992 Olympics. Both peak prime GOAT and Sidekick go all out. High endurance games. Either could've torn Achillies 29 yo GOAT or 27 yo Pip.

instead, they grind it out. grueling, tiring 3-peat. with GOAT's epic 41ppg FMVP. 1993 Bulls barely 3-PEAT. plays almost 100 games.

1990 -1993 Bulls play almost 100 or 100+ games per season when it comes to GOAT and Sidekick.

Just Imagine the Endurance, stamina, conditioning and strenth needed.

1999 LAL. only 50 games NBA Reg Sea. Something current NBA Players beg NBA. to reduce 82 games season.
Still Kobe CHOKES against Jazz in first round.
2000 LAL. Shaq's dominance. WIN
2001 LAL. Shaq's dominance. REPEATS.
2002 LAL. Shaq's dominance. 3-PEATS.

1999 50 game season should've helped Shaq 4-PEAT. well rested shaq. LAL blew it. Kobe Choked it.
2000 NBA Olympic Team. NO Shaq. NO 21 yrs old Kobe. both well rested for upcoming 3-peat.

2024 CELTICS WIN. Tatum is neither tha MVP nor FMVP.
2024 Paris Olympics. Tatum joins. Doesn't play much. Rests like crazy
2025 CELTICS. Tatum tears Achillies.

This alone goes to show. 1991 -1993 Bulls and that GOAT run with 1992 Olympics run should go down in the history of all sports as the greatest run ever with complete dominance with 3-Peat being the icing on the cake.

3ba11
05-16-2025, 08:45 PM
Can't argue with facts.. The historical record doesn't lie

gengiskhan
05-16-2025, 08:55 PM
Can't argue with facts.. The historical record doesn't lie

Just think about this.

300+ pro NBA games played by 1990, 1991 and 1992 by the GOAT and his Sidekick. Full throttle. Bad boys pistons. New upcoming Bad Boys in 1992 NYK.

They run into 1992 Olympics. No resting on the bench (2024 olympics Tatum). one ACL tear or Achilles Tear of MJ or Pip after 300+ games in 3 Full NBA seasons is expected today.

There goes the 1993 3-peat. it could've been over for 1993 Bulls 3-peat chances just like that.

Just recall 1993 NBA Season. how many injuries 1993 MJ picked up at age 30 yrs. tendonitis. Plantar fascities. broken shooting wrist by nasty Bad Boy Rodman Flagrant Foul.

NBA fans have no clue why MJ is clear cut GOAT, no argument and 90s Bulls were such a special dynasty. the GOAT dynasty of them all.

we will never see the likes of them ever again.

Full Court
05-16-2025, 09:39 PM
Personally I think the Bulls' second three-peat was more impressive given their age.

gengiskhan
05-16-2025, 11:07 PM
Personally I think the Bulls' second three-peat was more impressive given their age.

1995 MJ only played 17 Reg Sea Games!. well rested enough because of 1995 MLB strike.
1994 MJ played 0 Reg Sea Games and 0 Playoff games. but played full 1994 MLB minor leagues season.
1996 MJ skipped 1996 Summer Olympics after 1996 NBA Championship WIN.
1996 Pippen skipped 1996 Summer Olympics

2nd 3-peat was "special" and came from "experience" as GOAT dug deep into those years of "championship DNA"
Especially, how 1998 Sidekick acted that season. wanted trade. reg season surgery to not suit up. etc etc.

2nd 3-peat is no doubt very special. But 1st 3-Peat is GOAT as all 3 doubermen were in their peak prime years.

ImKobe
05-17-2025, 08:56 AM
Personally I think the Bulls' second three-peat was more impressive given their age.

Agreed. Not just age but injuries as well. Jordan didn't miss a single game in that 3-year stretch which is insanely impressive at his age.

SouBeachTalents
05-17-2025, 09:34 AM
They were winning 55 games without Jordan, that team was superstacked for it's era. That was a time Hakeem was winning titles with Cedric Maxwell as his 2nd option, defeating a team with John Starks as theirs. Those are basically Durant on the Warrior level rings.

tpols
05-17-2025, 10:10 AM
Kobes 3peat from 2000-2002 put him amongst the GOATs and then he sealed the deal and became the greatest ever with his B2B titles some odd years later.

The Black Mamba. Just how tu madre likes it. :rockon:

gengiskhan
05-17-2025, 10:31 AM
Kobes 3peat from 2000-2002 put him amongst the GOATs and then he sealed the deal and became the greatest ever with his B2B titles some odd years later.

The Black Mamba. Just how tu madre likes it. :rockon:

Deadbe is what Dominant FMVPs Shaq bred in his LAL years besides gifting him 3 rings.

All Deadbe was busy during his infant days under his Shaq daddy was raping and snitching on his dad.

tpols
05-17-2025, 10:35 AM
He even hit a fadeaway shot on her from across the room. Tu madre puta.:lol

3ba11
05-17-2025, 12:10 PM
They were winning 55 games without Jordan, that team was superstacked for it's era. That was a time Hakeem was winning titles with Cedric Maxwell as his 2nd option, defeating a team with John Starks as theirs. Those are basically Durant on the Warrior level rings.


The bulls were the only contender without a 3rd scoring option or rim protection, and the only team with only 1 go-to player.. So they easily had the worst cast, and the stats show that they had the lowest scoring cast EVER among title teams....

Furthermore, MJ is also the only guy in history that had to win many series vs top teams with bed-wetting teammates, such as 16 on 40% from sidekick and a 3rd option that gets annihilated in every series... And the Bulls were the only team with only 1 clutch producer... So the media that you got this talking point from is wrong - they're simply results-oriented, so they assume winning = great cast

Duffy Pratt
05-17-2025, 12:54 PM
Celtics won eight championships in a row. 11 in 12 years. But yeah, the Bulls feat is greater because two of their players took a summer vacation playing in the least competitive, most lopsided Olympics imaginable, right?

97 bulls
05-17-2025, 04:47 PM
1995 MJ only played 17 Reg Sea Games!. well rested enough because of 1995 MLB strike.
1994 MJ played 0 Reg Sea Games and 0 Playoff games. but played full 1994 MLB minor leagues season.
1996 MJ skipped 1996 Summer Olympics after 1996 NBA Championship WIN.
1996 Pippen skipped 1996 Summer Olympics

2nd 3-peat was "special" and came from "experience" as GOAT dug deep into those years of "championship DNA"
Especially, how 1998 Sidekick acted that season. wanted trade. reg season surgery to not suit up. etc etc.

2nd 3-peat is no doubt very special. But 1st 3-Peat is GOAT as all 3 doubermen were in their peak prime years.

Pippen didnt skip the Olympics in 96. The argument you're making for Jordan is the same argument I've been making for Pippen. From 90 to 98 Pippen played in 6 championships, 1 ECF that went to game 7, and two other ECSF that went to 7 and 6. And two Olympics in 92 and 96. Nobody played more basketball.

Pippen was breaking down. You guys like to say he played bad. No, he played hurt.

97 bulls
05-17-2025, 04:54 PM
1995 MJ only played 17 Reg Sea Games!. well rested enough because of 1995 MLB strike.
1994 MJ played 0 Reg Sea Games and 0 Playoff games. but played full 1994 MLB minor leagues season.
1996 MJ skipped 1996 Summer Olympics after 1996 NBA Championship WIN.
1996 Pippen skipped 1996 Summer Olympics

2nd 3-peat was "special" and came from "experience" as GOAT dug deep into those years of "championship DNA"
Especially, how 1998 Sidekick acted that season. wanted trade. reg season surgery to not suit up. etc etc.

2nd 3-peat is no doubt very special. But 1st 3-Peat is GOAT as all 3 doubermen were in their peak prime years.

Pippen didnt skip the Olympics in 96. The argument you're making for Jordan is the same argument I've been making for Pippen. From 90 to 98 Pippen played in 6 championships, 1 ECF that went to game 7, and two other ECSF that went to 7 and 6. And two Olympics in 92 and 96. Nobody played more basketball.

Pippen was breaking down. You guys like to say he played bad. No, he played hurt.

3ba11
05-17-2025, 05:01 PM
Pippen was breaking down. You guys like to say he played bad. No, he played hurt.





Pippen's dunk frequency didn't drop off until 2001 (he was hurt in 1997 and came back healthy in 98'):



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Pippen was clearly healthy in 1999 but he only averaged 14 ppg because he was outside the system and the automatic system points that he got in Chicago..

3ba11
05-17-2025, 05:03 PM
Pippen was breaking down. You guys like to say he played bad. No, he played hurt.





Pippen's dunk frequency didn't drop off until 2001 (he was hurt in 1997 and came back healthy in 98'):




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Pippen was clearly healthy in 1999 but he only averaged 14 ppg because he was outside the system and the automatic system points that he got in Chicago..

35 years old is a standard drop-off age and that's what we see with Pippen

97 bulls
05-17-2025, 06:42 PM
Pippen's dunk frequency didn't drop off until 2001 (he was hurt in 1997 and came back healthy in 98'):



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Pippen was clearly healthy in 1999 but he only averaged 14 ppg because he was outside the system and the automatic system points that he got in Chicago..

He averaged 14ppg because the offense Houston ran wasn't conducive to Pippens strengths. Pippen was more of an open court type player.

3ba11
05-17-2025, 08:27 PM
He averaged 14ppg because the offense Houston ran wasn't conducive to Pippens strengths. Pippen was more of an open court type player.


But every team runs a halfcourt offense and most of them were based around big men in the 90's, which required Pippen to be a good shooter... So that means that Pippen can only fit alongside MJ and was extremely lucky to learn the triangle alongside the goat scorer so that Pippen faced zero attention and never had to take a big shot.. Ultimately, Pippen wasn't a franchise player that is tasked with building a lottery team from scratch - he was simply handed the fully-developed goat dynasty, which he cratered to barely .500 in less than 18 months (with disastrous chokes in between).

gengiskhan
05-17-2025, 09:08 PM
1992 Olympics: 29 YO MJ and 27 YO Pippen.

1996 Olympics: NO 33 YO MJ' NO 31 YO Pippen.

1996 Bulls barely won 4th RING after grueling 6 games series against 64 Win SONICS.

1997 Finals went 6 grueling "flu" Games too with series tied 2-2.

1998 Finals went 6 punishing, non-HCA games too with injured Pippen.

Had Jordan or Pippen or both participated in 1996 Summer Olympics, I dont see Bulls 3-peating again. Either Injury, or Fatigue would've been Bulls undoing.

97 bulls
05-17-2025, 09:45 PM
1992 Olympics: 29 YO MJ and 27 YO Pippen.

1996 Olympics: NO 33 YO MJ' NO 31 YO Pippen.

1996 Bulls barely won 4th RING after grueling 6 games series against 64 Win SONICS.

1997 Finals went 6 grueling "flu" Games too with series tied 2-2.

1998 Finals went 6 punishing, non-HCA games too with injured Pippen.

Had Jordan or Pippen or both participated in 1996 Summer Olympics, I dont see Bulls 3-peating again. Either Injury, or Fatigue would've been Bulls undoing.

Pippen did participate in the summer Olympics in 96

gengiskhan
05-17-2025, 11:26 PM
Pippen did participate in the summer Olympics in 96

yes. you are right.

I cannot remember a single 1996 Pippen game from olympics. was he benched more often than not.

him and charles. There are so many 1992 pippen highlights from Dream Team.

Hey Yo
05-18-2025, 10:18 AM
Personally I think the Bulls' second three-peat was more impressive given their age.

96-98 = an *

NBAGOAT
05-19-2025, 06:20 PM
its easier to get leg injuries now, thats just a fact. load management isnt enough to make up for the difference in steps per game. every modern team is at a disadvantage with forming a dynasty and the second apron hurts too. Boston is likely trading 2+ starters away this offseason because of the 2nd apron. I remember telling people here boston was spending too much on certain guys to keep that team together and they're feeling those effects now.

gengiskhan
05-19-2025, 11:34 PM
its easier to get leg injuries now, thats just a fact. load management isnt enough to make up for the difference in steps per game. every modern team is at a disadvantage with forming a dynasty and the second apron hurts too. Boston is likely trading 2+ starters away this offseason because of the 2nd apron. I remember telling people here boston was spending too much on certain guys to keep that team together and they're feeling those effects now.

absolutely wrong!

80s and 90s NBA pros did not get leg injuries because they trained better and their conditioning was peak.
Players of 80s and 90s trained for 4+ hours instead of joking around on social media and iphones. FACT!
after on court drills and full court practice games, they were busy in aerobics or resistance training.

Today's players train only 2 hrs on Bball court and many dont even hit the gym for resistance training.
LBJ is the only one that trains like elite 80s and 90s NBA pro. So did Kobe. that was difference.

Even Wade did not train as hard.

NBAGOAT
05-20-2025, 02:37 AM
Yea what source says guys trained for 4 hrs back then and 2 hrs now. That’s not a fact. What is a fact is like 20 guys ran 2.6 miles or more this season and 2 guys did that in 2015. Guys ran around even less in the 90s based off eye test at least. Evidence is here https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?Season=2024-25&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=DIST_MILES

tpols
05-20-2025, 08:30 AM
80s and 90s NBA pros did not get leg injuries because they trained better and their conditioning was peak.



I'm actually amused at the fact this was brought up.

This is mad max detailing what his game day routine was like. Basically waking up drunk and coming down off the coca and barely making it through the day.


https://youtu.be/itZqOCpZlwo?si=CScvI2xzUV1-58EU

:facepalm




80s and 90s was filled with crackheads. OP knows all about this as he was conceived by one. :lol

dankok8
05-21-2025, 10:54 AM
1996-97 was his last prime season and Pip was never the same after his injury in 1997-98 that made him miss 38 games.

gengiskhan
05-21-2025, 07:28 PM
1996-97 was his last prime season and Pip was never the same after his injury in 1997-98 that made him miss 38 games.

He looked the best of that 32-35 ages in 1997 no doubt.

That extra muscles gone. little spring in his legs. moved better on defense.

1998 he looked completely spent. Pippen sitting out made it even worst.

gengiskhan
05-21-2025, 07:28 PM
1996-97 was his last prime season and Pip was never the same after his injury in 1997-98 that made him miss 38 games.

He looked the best of that 32-35 ages in 1997 no doubt.

That extra muscles gone. little spring in his legs. moved better on defense.

1998 he looked completely spent. Pippen sitting out made it even worst.