View Full Version : Bill Burr calls out MAGA for being hateful low IQ racists
TheMan
05-17-2025, 12:53 PM
https://youtu.be/zBcGKEPCAQo?si=1QjOzDC5p0OgXsbE
Thoughts?
tpols
05-17-2025, 02:20 PM
Yea that rant is spot on how the wealthy pit those below them against each other to further their power, control, and influence. But at the same time its also true there are some Venezuelan and El Salvadorian people that come here and just run roughshod like savages. Even Mexicans try to kick these people out of their country and send them up here so they don't have to deal with them. You know this too primo.
TheMan
05-17-2025, 03:05 PM
Yea that rant is spot on how the wealthy pit those below them against each other to further their power, control, and influence. But at the same time its also true there are some Venezuelan and El Salvadorian people that come here and just run roughshod like savages. Even Mexicans try to kick these people out of their country and send them up here so they don't have to deal with them. You know this too primo.
True...but those are the people Trump should be kicking out and not folks who don't have any criminal records, like mothers and their kids.
Lock up the border, those who have jobs and are contributing to society and have no criminal records should be given a pathway to legal status...those with felonies should be deported, don't want imported criminals when we have enough domestic ones already. But that's not the goal here, Stephen Miller is a legit Nazi, he just wants brown people out, if he could legally deport brown US citizens, he would.
Lakers Legend#32
05-17-2025, 03:45 PM
He has obviously seen this board.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 09:44 AM
Bill Burr became a sellout hack. He rose up the ranks in Hollywood got a Disney job and now he's Mister Woke Lefty. I think he even praised Luigi.
Guy is a total scumbag POS.
Wardell Curry
05-18-2025, 10:35 AM
He said some true things. He said some extremely false things. Blah blah.
TheMan
05-18-2025, 11:26 AM
Bill Burr became a sellout hack. He rose up the ranks in Hollywood got a Disney job and now he's Mister Woke Lefty. I think he even praised Luigi.
Guy is a total scumbag POS.
Every take you have is trash lol
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:40 AM
Every take you have is trash lol
We shouldn't call the man out for praising a stone cold murderer? Uh... okay?
That's definitely a take I guess.
TheMan, enlightened thinker but also a murder advocate.
warriorfan
05-18-2025, 01:31 PM
Op spends all his time googling videos of people talking about donald trump
:roll:
We shouldn't call the man out for praising a stone cold murderer? Uh... okay?
That's definitely a take I guess.
TheMan, enlightened thinker but also a murder advocate.
You praise murderers all the time.
warriorfan
05-18-2025, 01:41 PM
You praise murderers all the time.
You would have worked for Nazi Germany if they offered you a Library job.
Patrick Chewing
05-18-2025, 03:46 PM
Bill has become very unfunny since he became woke. His fanbase has been anti-woke since he came out, so it's weird he's going down this path. Makes you appreciate Chapelle that much more.
Off the Court
05-18-2025, 05:22 PM
Bill has become very unfunny since he became woke. His fanbase has been anti-woke since he came out, so it's weird he's going down this path. Makes you appreciate Chapelle that much more.
https://www.tmz.com/2017/05/16/dave-chappelle-apology-give-donald-trump-a-chance/
That Chapelle?
Patrick Chewing
05-18-2025, 09:36 PM
https://www.tmz.com/2017/05/16/dave-chappelle-apology-give-donald-trump-a-chance/
That Chapelle?
That's a quote from 8 years ago :roll:
Proofread your shit next time before blowing your load prematurely.
ShawkFactory
05-18-2025, 10:03 PM
Bill has become very unfunny since he became woke. His fanbase has been anti-woke since he came out, so it's weird he's going down this path. Makes you appreciate Chapelle that much more.
He was always left-leaning ideologically. He just isn’t a black and white weirdo and can poke fun when he sees it,
The right just always solutes when someone makes fun of the left, even if they’re actually left at heart.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:13 PM
You praise murderers all the time.
Says the guy who probably chokes it to pictures of Luigi.
:mad:
Are you gonna deny you defend Netanyahu? Luigi didn't kill innocent kids, you're the one who defends that.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:17 PM
He was always left-leaning ideologically. He just isn’t a black and white weirdo and can poke fun when he sees it,
The right just always solutes when someone makes fun of the left, even if they’re actually left at heart.
Bill Burr is absolutely woke lefty and don't be fooled by his "I poke fun at both sides" shtick. Whenever he makes fun of the left he's always extremely careful to frame it in terms of race and make it more about bashing affluent white suburban people.
He praised Luigi the murderer, he called Elon Musk a nazi and he rushed to the defense of Karen Bass after her horrendous handling of the LA fires.
He's a woke lefty.
Bill Burr is absolutely woke lefty and don't be fooled by his "I poke fun at both sides" shtick. Whenever he makes fun of the left he's always extremely careful to frame it in terms of race and make it more about bashing affluent white suburban people.
He praised Luigi the murderer, he called Elon Musk a nazi and he rushed to the defense of Karen Bass after her horrendous handling of the LA fires.
He's a woke lefty.
Yeah I wonder why.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:25 PM
Are you gonna deny you defend Netanyahu? Luigi didn't kill innocent kids, you're the one who defends that.
All world leaders including Netanyahu have blood on their hands, but that doesn't make them "murderers" in the traditional sense. There's a clear distinction when it comes to killing in the name of war and committing murder, both legally and ethically.
War is hell.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:26 PM
Yeah I wonder why.
https://cdn.jewishboston.com/uploads/2016/11/Book-parody.jpg
All world leaders including Netanyahu have blood on their hands, but that doesn't make them "murderers" in the traditional sense. There's a clear distinction when it comes to killing in the name of war and committing murder, both legally and ethically.
War is hell.
Please tell me how intentionally starving a population isn't murder.
Even your boy Trump admitted it:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-gaza-war-trump-says-people-starving/
:mad:
You can pretend you didn't see Musk make multiple nazi salutes on live tv if you want but we all know you saw it.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:31 PM
Please tell me how intentionally starving a population isn't murder.
Even your boy Trump admitted it:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-gaza-war-trump-says-people-starving/
War is hell.
Hamas should have never started the war. This wasn't a problem until after Oct 7.
War is hell.
Hamas should have never started the war. This wasn't a problem until after Oct 7.
You're so evil you're justifying starving children :roll:
Even ****ing Trump thinks you're going too far dude, that's how sick you are.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:34 PM
You can pretend you didn't see Musk make multiple nazi salutes on live tv if you want but we all know you saw it.
So I guess Emmanuel Macron is also a nazi because he made the exact same gesture.
https://x.com/amuse/status/1882559909130101165
I can understand why a rice krispy brain simpleton like you would confuse that for a nazi salute. I think you see nazis in your dreams when you sleep at night.
You need nazis to exist like you need oxygen.
You lost all credibility when you defended intentionally starving children. Sorry, everyone sane thinks you're evil now. You have to be truly sick to justify that. You're outraged some guy who profited off human misery got killed but innocent children being starved to death intentionally is fine? Jesus. You are just proving Bill Burr right.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:37 PM
You're so evil you're justifying starving children :roll:
Even ****ing Trump thinks you're going too far dude, that's how sick you are.
I'm not justifying or defending anything. I'm simply explaining to you the reality of the situation. War is hell. If you think Netanyahu is evil that is your right, but I'm simply telling you that war and murder are not the same.
You can try and conflate the two all you want, but I refuse to submit to your illogical framework. It doesn't change the fact that Luigi is a murderer (an actual murderer) and that you and Bill Burr simp for him.
If you can't see you're the bad guy here it's hopeless. You are defending the intentional starvation of an entire population, including children. Even Trump as much as I hate him knows that's wrong (doesn't stop him from funding it, but he does realize it's wrong, he just doesn't care. You on the other hand seem gleeful about it)
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:39 PM
Bawler loves it when children are killed if they're not white. That sick **** gets off on it. No way this dude isn't in the KKK. No way.
3tard, why even pretend to be some righteous moral crusader in all of this?
If Isreal were nuked off the map tomorrow, you would jump for joy and squeeze one out. You wouldn't shed a single tear for the innocent people killed.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:43 PM
If you can't see you're the bad guy here it's hopeless. You are defending the intentional starvation of an entire population, including children. Even Trump as much as I hate him knows that's wrong (doesn't stop him from funding it, but he does realize it's wrong, he just doesn't care. You on the other hand seem gleeful about it)
3tard I have news for you, if you ever harmed me or my family, or you kidnapped one of my loved ones... I would do terrible things to you and all the people you love if it meant getting them back.
I would take great pride in harming you actually.
Projection. Why would I celebrate a bunch of innocent civilians dying? The only people in Israel I want dead are the people perpetrating the genocide, most Israelis aren't guilty of that. Unlike you I don't demonize entire populations for stuff their shitty governments do.
Yeah I'd celebrate if Netanyahu or Itamar Ben Gvir (this guy is basically you, google him I'm sure you'll love him) or one of their cronies die, the same way I'd celebrate if any genocide perpetrator died. I don't celebrate innocent civilians dying whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.
3tard I have news for you, if you ever harmed me or my family, or you kidnapped one of my loved ones... I would do terrible things to you and all the people you love if it meant getting them back.
I would take great pride in harming you actually.
Ok, setting aside how insane it is that you just concocted a scenario in which I'm a kidnapper, you think it's justifiable to harm people because they are related to or friends with someone who did bad things? That's like saying we should kill Dick Cheney's family because he was a genocidal monster who lied us into war. Sorry dude, if you are targeting people not involved in the crime you lose any sympathy. Please tell me how the entire of population of Gaza is responsible for Hamas.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:46 PM
Projection. Why would I celebrate a bunch of innocent civilians dying? The only people in Israel I want dead are the people perpetrating the genocide, most Israelis aren't guilty of that. Unlike you I don't demonize entire populations for stuff their shitty governments do.
Yeah I'd celebrate if Netanyahu or Itamar Ben Gvir (this guy is basically you, google him I'm sure you'll love him) or one of their cronies die, the same way I'd celebrate if any genocide perpetrator died. I don't celebrate innocent civilians dying whether they are Israeli or Palestinian.
Not even within 24 hours of Oct 7th happening, you were already crying and complaining about the potential retaliation before Israel had even done anything. Not once did you condemn the horrible killings or the kidnappings. In fact you all but insinuated that the Israeli people had it coming to them for decades of oppression.
You can lie to yourself if you want but you're not fooling anyone.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:47 PM
Ok, setting aside how insane it is that you just concocted a scenario in which I'm a kidnapper, you think it's justifiable to harm people because they are related to or friends with someone who did bad things? That's like saying we should kill Dick Cheney's family because he was a genocidal monster who lied us into war. Sorry dude, if you are targeting people not involved in the crime you lose any sympathy. Please tell me how the entire of population of Gaza is responsible for Hamas.
Yes I am telling you straight up if ever held my loved ones for ransom I would do everything in my power to harm you. If you went into hiding and refused to release them, I would start harming your family.
Like I said, war is hell.
Not even within 24 hours of Oct 7th happening, you were already crying and complaining about the potential retaliation before Israel had even done anything. Not once did you condemn the horrible killings or the kidnappings. In fact you all but insinuated that the Israeli people had it coming to them for decades of oppression.
You can lie to yourself if you want but you're not fooling anyone.
I'm pretty sure what I said was that it was a situation in which the actions of a corrupt government led to innocent civilians being killed and that it was actually Netanyahu's fault more than anyone else's. Which is true.
Netanyahu quite literally funded Hamas to make sure left-wing Palestinian groups didn't gain power. No doubt Hamas are lunatics (although tbh they have similar politics to you, just a different religion), but acting as if they started anything is pretty dumb, but hey you probably also think the Nakba didn't happen. Who am I not fooling? Most people are on Palestine's side at this point and think there should be peace in the region. You're in the extreme, bloodthirsty minority
Obviously any loss of innocent life is tragic, I've pushed back against idiots who said Israeli civilians deserve death on other social media, but people were framing it as Hamas starting a conflict that started in 1948. So I gave the proper context..
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:52 PM
I'm pretty sure what I said was that it was a situation in which the actions of a corrupt government led to innocent civilians being killed and that it was actually Netanyahu's fault more than anyone else's. Which is true. He quite literally funded Hamas to make sure left-wing Palestinian groups didn't gain power. No doubt Hamas are lunatics (although tbh they have similar politics to you, just a different religion), but acting as if they started anything is pretty dumb, but hey you probably also think the Nakba didn't happen. Who am I not fooling? Most people are on Palestine's side at this point and think there should be peace in the region. You're in the extreme, bloodthirsty minority.
3tard you think men should compete in women's sports and that healthy young children should be put on hormones and puberty blockers. That's about as lopsided an issue as there is. If the polls are to be believed it is an 80/20 issue and most countries have pulled back on it.
And yet that doesn't stop you from being an autistic retard who wants to castrate children.
Yes I am telling you straight up if ever held my loved ones for ransom I would do everything in my power to harm you. If you went into hiding and refused to release them, I would start harming your family.
Like I said, war is hell.
That's a bad analogy. A better one is you saying you'd starve the entire population of France if someone from France kidnapped your family. Is that true? Would you? Like, just let us know how sick you are here...
3tard you think men should compete in women's sports and that healthy young children should be put on hormones and puberty blockers. That's about as lopsided an issue as there is. If the polls are to be believed it is an 80/20 issue and most countries have pulled back on it.
And yet that doesn't stop you from being an autistic retard who wants to castrate children.
Deflection. Stay on topic if you want to have a debate, this is essentially trolling and you know damn well it's disingenuous.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:54 PM
That's a bad analogy. A better one is you saying you'd starve the entire population of France if someone from France kidnapped your family. Is that true? Would you? Like, just let us know how sick you are here...
Is this a serious question? Yes if the leader of France kidnapped my family, I am perfectly fine starving the entire population if it increased my chances of getting them back. At that point the onus isn't on me it's on the leader of France to give them back.
War is hell.
ShawkFactory
05-18-2025, 10:55 PM
I'm not justifying or defending anything. I'm simply explaining to you the reality of the situation. War is hell. If you think Netanyahu is evil that is your right, but I'm simply telling you that war and murder are not the same.
You can try and conflate the two all you want, but I refuse to submit to your illogical framework. It doesn't change the fact that Luigi is a murderer (an actual murderer) and that you and Bill Burr simp for him.
I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?
Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.
But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.
Also Netanyahu already admitted that he's not stopping till Hamas is defeated even if the hostages are released, so you can stop with the hostages excuse.
https://apnews.com/article/netanyahu-israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-hostages-0b8632e1a01070a7f013c0f9ce0f64b4
Is this a serious question? Yes if the leader of France kidnapped my family, I am perfectly fine starving the entire population if it increased my chances of getting them back. At that point the onus isn't on me it's on the leader of France to give them back.
War is hell.
Ok so you're just a psychopath who thinks only stuff that personally affects you matters.. Good to know. That explains quite a lot.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:56 PM
Deflection. Stay on topic if you want to have a debate, this is essentially trolling and you know damn well it's disingenuous.
How? You said that because more people agree with you, you must be right.
Okay well most people think it's a really bad idea to castrate children, put them on puberty blockers and put them on experimental hormone therapy. I guess that makes you an extreme fringe lunatic.
How? You said that because more people agree with you, you must be right.
Okay well most people think it's a really bad idea to castrate children, put them on puberty blockers and put them on experimental hormone therapy. I guess that makes you an extreme fringe lunatic.
Deflection, stay on topic please.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 10:59 PM
Ok so you're just a psychopath who thinks only stuff that personally affects you matters.. Good to know. That explains quite a lot.
So if someone kidnapped your family and held them hostage and was doing God knows what to them, and you couldn't find that person, and you had no way of knowing whether or not your family would ever be released... what would you do?
Tell us your completely rational and humane method you would take to get your family back safe.
I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?
Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.
But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.
I think there's also a pretty big difference between members of Hamas' military being killed and children being intentionally starved to death.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:01 PM
I see where you stand and I respect it but you're talking about a specific situation of legality vs not. Yes, during wartime killing people is legal and not called murder. What if the intentions of those pulling the strings during wartime are not pure? Still okay because its war?
Not that I'm going to bat for Luigi because I don't think anyone deserves to take a life, aggressive rape or familial murder victims perhaps aside. But even then..eh.
But I do see the other side. Brian Thompson was not a good man and put his own personal wealth over the lives of the folks his business was supposed to take care of. I can see why someone would be really upset by it.
"But I do see the other side..."
"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."
Oh so it's okay to murder someone so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.
So if someone kidnapped your family and held them hostage and was doing God knows what to them, and you couldn't find that person, and you had no way of knowing whether or not your family would ever be released... what would you do?
Tell us your completely rational and humane method you would take to get your family back safe.
I wouldn't kill innocent people to get my family back, and they wouldn't do it to get me back either. I know this is a foreign concept to you, but killing innocent people is never justifiable.
Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family :lol Not including that part is incredibly dishonest.
"But I do see the other side..."
"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."
Oh so it's okay to murder someone so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.
You've literally been saying it's ok to starve children as long as they live under a bad government
diamenz
05-18-2025, 11:02 PM
but you've nevah beeeeeeeen!
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:04 PM
I wouldn't kill innocent people to get my family back, and they wouldn't do it to get me back either. I know this is a foreign concept to you, but killing innocent people is never justifiable.
Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family :lol Not including that part is incredibly dishonest.
Ah so it's all clear now. Hamas is justified in taking innocent hostages because Israel bad.
I thought you said you valued human life?
ShawkFactory
05-18-2025, 11:06 PM
"But I do see the other side..."
"Brian Thompson was not a good man..."
Oh so it's okay to murder someone so long as ShawkFactory thinks they're a bad person? That's very interesting.
I didn't say that at all. In fact I literally just said the opposite.
The voices in your head are speaking again.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:06 PM
3tard:
"Killing innocent people is never justifiable..."
Also 3tard:
"Killing, raping and taking innocent hostages is justifiable if they're from Israel..."
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:07 PM
I didn't say that at all. In fact I literally just said the opposite.
The voices in your head are speaking again.
You said "I see where the other side is coming from..."
Did you not?
That's funny, I don't see where the other side is coming from. I don't think a greedy or corrupt businessman deserves execution on the street. There's zero justification for that and I would never say "Hey I see where the other side is coming from..."
Ah so it's all clear now. Hamas is justified in taking innocent hostages because Israel bad.
I thought you said you valued human life?
That's not what I said. It just makes zero sense for you to claim it's justifiable to do acts of great evil if someone else does something evil first, and then defend Israel over Hamas. Israel started this shit that isn't up for debate. If you think October 7 is when this stuff started you know absolutely nothing about history. So either evil acts are always bad (my position) or Hamas is justified because Israel has been stealing Palestinian land and killing Palestinians for 70 years (your position if you were consistent).
Keep in mind I disagree with people who have this position about Hamas being justified (they are out there), but you're the one who has been saying anything is ok if someone else did something evil first. So a little consistency would be nice, or even better maybe admit that Israel is an apartheid state.
3tard:
"Killing innocent people is never justifiable..."
Also 3tard:
"Killing, raping and taking innocent hostages is justifiable if they're from Israel..."
This is YOUR logic, not mine :hammerhead: I never have subscribed to an eye for an eye bullshit.
ShawkFactory
05-18-2025, 11:11 PM
You said "I see where the other side is coming from..."
Did you not?
That's funny, I don't see where the other side is coming from. I don't think a greedy or corrupt businessman deserves execution on the street. There's zero justification for that and I would never say "Hey I see where the other side is coming from..."
By being upset, yes. Not murdering.
Keep up dude. You're so goddamn emotional I feel like I'm talking to a woke leftist.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:12 PM
That's not what I said. It just makes zero sense for you to claim it's justifiable to do acts of great evil if someone else does something evil first, and then defend Israel over Hamas. Israel started this shit that isn't up for debate. If you think October 7 is when this stuff started you know absolutely nothing about history. So either evil acts are always bad (my position) or Hamas is justified because Israel has been stealing Palestinian land and killing Palestinians for 70 years (your position if you were consistent).
Keep in mind I disagree with people who have this position about Hamas being justified (they are out there), but you're the one who has been saying anything is ok if someone else did something evil first. So a little consistency would be nice, or even better maybe admit that Israel is an apartheid state.
Lol don't give me that bullshit, that's exactly what you said.
Your exact words: "Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family...'
You keep going on these long diatribes but you're doing exactly as I said you would. You're perfectly wiling to condone whatever evil acts are committed upon innocent Israelis because in your opinion Israel started the war.
So you're no different. Congrats.
Lol don't give me that bullshit, that's exactly what you said.
Your exact words: "Also this analogy only works if you include the part where you stole someone's house and killed their family and friends for 70 years before they kidnapped your family...'
You keep going on these long diatribes but you're doing exactly as I said you would. You're perfectly wiling to condone whatever evil acts are committed upon innocent Israelis because in your opinion Israel started the war.
So you're no different. Congrats.
When did I condone anything? You'd get laughed at it in a court of law if you tried to argue like this. Your entire debating tactic is to just lie about what your opponent says, that's not how you win an argument. Respond to what I actually say without lying.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:24 PM
When did I condone anything? You'd get laughed at it in a court of law if you tried to argue like this. Your entire debating tactic is to just lie about what your opponent says, that's not how you win an argument. Respond to what I actually say without lying.
Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:
Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.
Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.
Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.
Okay so I am going to entertain your own analogy then:
Assume someone has brutally murdered your father and have kidnapped the rest your family. You don't know where they are being held and you have no way of finding the person responsible. You learn that it's payback for what your country did 70 years ago. Nothing personal against you, but they really despise your country so they are going to keep your family as hostages and do God knows what to them.
Tell us your wonderful plan to try and get them back.
Don't tell us what you wouldn't do, tell us what you WOULD do.
Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.
As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.
Baller234
05-18-2025, 11:59 PM
Still an incorrect analogy because you are now pretending Israel hasn't been continuously doing heinous stuff to Palestine. It didn't stop after the Nakba. Do your research. Again, two wrongs don't make a right, but you keep framing Palestine as the aggressor, which is disingenuous. Not to mention ignoring that Netanyahu funded Hamas because he knows they're psychos who will do stuff like this and give him an excuse for his evil deeds, while at the same time preventing left-wing Palestinian groups from gaining power.
As for your ridiculous analogy, unlike you I don't think I'm in an action movie, so I would try to get help but I certainly wouldn't be murdering people not involved. I'm not saying people who are families of the kidnapped don't have justifiable anger towards Hamas, I'm saying Hamas didn't start it and YOU keep claiming starting something gives someone the right to be evil. You said it, not me.
If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.
But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.
50 cent says in the song Heat:
"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."
In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.
War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.
TheMan
05-19-2025, 01:36 PM
If two wrongs don't make a right that means both parties are to blame and you should be condemning both sides equally, but that's not the case. You're only interested in condemning Israel. When Israel does something wrong, it's Israel's fault. But when the other side does something wrong, it's still Israel's fault because they started it or they funded it. In other words Israel is always wrong no matter what and anything done in response is morally justified because Israel started it.
But why does it matter if "Israel started it" if two wrongs don't make a right? How is that relevant? Most of the power players involved are totally removed from the events that took place 70 years ago. And regardless, whatever happened... that doesn't justify the horrific acts on Oct 7th and it doesn't justify taking innocent hostages.
50 cent says in the song Heat:
"If you were smart you'd be shook of me,
Cause I'll get tired of lookin for you
Spray your momma crib and let your ass look for me..."
In other words if you and me are at war, or you have my family hostage, and there's no one to help, best believe I'm gonna do whatever I can to smoke you out. I wouldn't kill your family right away but I'm definitely sending you that message. I'm saying "Hey 3tard I know you have my family if you don't give them up I'm going to hurt yours." At that point the ball is in your court. That is the price of war.
War is a very horrible, complex thing that takes new shape the longer it goes on. No one is ever truly innocent. All the world leaders have blood on their hands to some degree. Netanyahu is not special in that regard.
How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 02:20 PM
How many other world leaders are committing or have committed genocide? Serious question. Netanyahu is a special kind of evil. You really are waaaay out there if you can't acknowledge that.
You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?
diamenz
05-19-2025, 02:53 PM
You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?
"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 02:55 PM
"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.
what WE should be concerned as, as americans, is what interest this serves for us? the answer is nothing. that's why israel needs to take care of their god damn selves.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 03:49 PM
"from the river to the sea" in reference to what the libtards are screaming on the streets of america or in regard to the zionist version arguing for the same thing albeit in the other direction, that are actually applying and carrying it all out as we speak?
of which btw that phrase, from what i understand, originated from the talmud itself?
so let's not act like either side doesn't want the other wiped off the map.
Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?
Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"
There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.
Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.
Patrick Chewing
05-19-2025, 03:56 PM
You wokesters don't have any solid ground to stand on so you just desparately shout "genocide" in the hopes of manipulating people's emotions. That's not what happening at all. But hey if you really want to play that game, you're standing up for the same people who chant "from the river to the sea.." So it's safe to say those people want Israel wiped off the map as well and doesn't think Israel has the right to exist. Is that not asking for genocide?
And if Netanyahu is a special kind of evil, what does that make Joe Biden and Kamala Harris? Their administration only further enabled him and did nothing while he committed "genocide". So why did you vote for a genocide enabler?
What does that make you?
This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.
You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 04:54 PM
Okay so if they want to see Israel wiped off the map, why is all the criticism being hurled at Israel? Because they're winning? If the countries that surrounded Israel had the power and resources to remove them from the region, wouldn't they?
Regardless, it's fukking retarded to compare what goes on in war to actual murder. It's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't just get to simp for Luigi and then deflect from that by saying... "But Israel!"
There's no moral ambiguity when it comes to Luigi. Either he was hired to murder that man or did so of his own accord. He executed another human in the street. Not in the name of conflict or war. So there's really no excuse for anyone that defends him or tries to prop him up as some misunderstood hero.
Which is why Bill Burr is a scumbag loser.
but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?
diamenz
05-19-2025, 04:56 PM
This is why i refuse to comment on this situation any further on this board. They do throw the word "genocide" out there in an attempt to shut you up.
You're literally arguing with neo-Nazis who hate Jews. It's not worth it.
both sides can be accused to doing the same shit. pro-palestinians say the other side blames everything on hamas. pro-israel says the other side spouts "genocide". it works both ways. a lot of people just don't see it because you're too stuck in your bubbles and corners yelling without listening and unable to see things clearly. in order to see things clearly you need to be able to remove yourself from your bias and take an actual genuine intellectual interest in the subject. something most of us as humans are incapable of doing unfortunately. but credit to those that try.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 04:59 PM
but you understand the difference in the power dynamic that i'm pointing out here, right?
Who cares about power dynamics? War is war.
If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.
Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…
diamenz
05-19-2025, 05:07 PM
Who cares about power dynamics? War is war.
If two sides are at war then one side isn't automatically in the wrong just because they're more powerful and have more resources. They don't have an obligation to play nice and let the other side win.
you don't then.
alright. just forget about it.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 05:29 PM
Yes bawler Biden and Harris are also guilty of genocide. I didn’t vote for those idiots either so…
Are you kidding? Had The Cackler won the election, you would have been cheesing like a motherfukker.
You hate Orange Face with fury and passion. You were 100% cheering for The Cackler to win and there's zero doubt in my mind you went into a cold state of depression the night she lost.
Are you kidding? Had The Cackler won the election, you would have been cheesing like a motherfukker.
You hate Orange Face with fury and passion. You were 100% cheering for The Cackler to win and there's zero doubt in my mind you went into a cold state of depression the night she lost.
Are you seriously dumb enough to think everyone who doesn’t like Trump votes Democrat? I can prove how I voted anyways, good luck explaining this thread:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?519271-Just-voted
I’ll take that apology now bawler.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 05:33 PM
what WE should be concerned as, as americans, is what interest this serves for us? the answer is nothing. that's why israel needs to take care of their god damn selves.
#Baller234
i assume that you agree with me here, at least.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 05:43 PM
I’ll take that apology now bawler.
Absolutely not. I don't care if you didn't vote for The Cackler, you were clearly pulling for her to win and you were emotionally invested in her victory.
I remember how you acted when Trump got that first mugshot taken. You were the happiest you'd ever been. I refuse to believe you were totally indifferent to the election results.
Election night 2024 was a VERY bad night for you, no doubt.
Absolutely not. I don't care if you didn't vote for The Cackler, you were clearly pulling for her to win and you were emotionally invested in her victory.
I remember how you acted when Trump got that first mugshot taken. You were the happiest you'd ever been. I refuse to believe you were totally indifferent to the election results.
Election night 2024 was a VERY bad night for you, no doubt.
Election night is bad regardless of who wins, that's what you don't get. Both corporate parties are the enemy of everyday folks. Dems are controlled opposition, them winning means at best the Republicans just win in 2028 instead. And hey I bet the Dems will win in 2028 or 2032, and people will think stuff will change. It's a big club and you ain't in it-George Carlin. But you're too dumb to get it and still think one party is on your side. Neither are.
God it infuriates you that I didn't vote for Harris. You were so ready to pounce on that :roll: "but but but you trolled me about Trump's mugshot" :cry: Maybe stop worshipping the guy and you get trolled less?
Baller234
05-19-2025, 05:49 PM
#Baller234
i assume that you agree with me here, at least.
I don't think America is obligated to get involved in every war, but best believe if an all out war were to break out in the middle east America would have a vested interest in Israel coming out on top. They are a very valuable ally to us and also the world at large.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 05:52 PM
Election night is bad regardless of who wins, that's what you don't get. Both corporate parties are the enemy of everyday folks. Dems are controlled opposition, them winning means at best the Republicans just win in 2028 instead. And hey I bet the Dems will win in 2028 or 2032, and people will think stuff will change. It's a big club and you ain't in it-George Carlin. But you're too dumb to get it and still think one party is on your side. Neither are.
God it infuriates you that I didn't vote for Harris. You were so ready to pounce on that :roll: "but but but you trolled me about Trump's mugshot" :cry: Maybe stop worshipping the guy and you get trolled less?
You didn't vote for The Cackler because you wanted to retain your street cred and not be seen siding with the genocide enabler, but we both know deep down you were rooting for her to win.
And had she won, you would have been gloating and celebrating. You can claim its in the name of trolling Trumpers, but again all that proves is that hating Trump is the most important thing to you above all.
Had the genocide enabler won, you would have had your best night's sleep in years.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 05:52 PM
They are a very valuable ally to us and also the world at large.
do you believe that their supposed 'value' is worth the billions upon billions that we've sent, the wars that we've fought and american lives lost on their behalf and the strangehold that their lobby has on our government, including donald trump that sacrifices their priorities over ours is worth the investment? you do realize the unprecedented power of the israel lobby and the blowback that it has on an america-first agenda i assume.
You didn't vote for The Cackler because you wanted to retain your street cred and not be seen siding with the genocide enabler, but we both know deep down you were rooting for her to win.
And had she won, you would have been gloating and celebrating. You can claim its in the name of trolling Trumpers, but again all that proves is that hating Trump is the most important thing to you above all.
Had the genocide enabler won, you would have had your best night's sleep in years.
I didn't vote for Harris because she's a corporate stooge, same as Trump. The rest is you screaming about the voices in your head. You still haven't realized both parties are screwing us. Maybe one day you'll be smart enough to see it.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 06:10 PM
do you believe that their supposed 'value' is worth the billions upon billions that we've sent, the wars that we've fought and american lives lost on their behalf and the strangehold that their lobby has on our government, including donald trump that sacrifices their priorities over ours is worth the investment? you do realize the unprecedented power of the israel lobby i assume.
Well America is the greatest and freest country in the world and it's not like we live under some oppressive regime, so if Israel is the one really pulling the strings then to that I say thank you Israel for making America so free and so great.
On a more serious note though, when it comes to the biggest problems facing our country, Israel just isn't that high on the list at all for me. We've given billions to countless countries so I can't pretend to know what our total return on investment is. In the grand scheme of things I'm sure Israel has given us a greater return than most.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 06:15 PM
Well America is the greatest and freest country in the world and it's not like we live under some oppressive regime, so if Israel is the one really pulling the strings then to that I say thank you Israel for making America so free and so great.
On a more serious note though, when it comes to the biggest problems facing our country, Israel just isn't that high on the list at all for me. We've given billions to countless countries so I can't pretend to know what our total return on investment is. In the grand scheme of things I'm sure Israel has given us a greater return than most.
that may indeed be the case but who else is "most"?
again, i'll reiterate. the billions upon billions, the wars fought, trillions spent on said wars and americans lives lost are worth the,return on investment for... what i assume you would argue to be ME intel and correct me if there's more to it than just that.
so to clarify, you believe that tradeoff is indeed worth it?
this is important for me to understand because you see so clearly through the left's bullshit and i admire you for that but i don't know how well you're able to see through your own side's bullshit, or if you're even willing to have a gander in that direction.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 06:26 PM
that may indeed be the case.
but again i'll reiterate the billions upon billions, the wars fought, trillions spent on said wars and americans lives lost are worth the,return on investment for... what i assume you would argue to be ME intel and correct me if there's more to it than that.
so to clarify, you believe that tradeoff is indeed worth it?
I have no idea. It would probably be impossible to measure. It's not like any of us are getting dividends from this. Half the money going out is probably a laundering scheme anyway. Those wheels were probably in motion long before Trump took office.
So when you ask that question, my genuine answer is I don't know. I will say that I would much rather give billions to a country like Israel than I would a country like Iran.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 06:34 PM
I have no idea. It would probably be impossible to measure. It's not like any of us are getting dividends from this. Half the money going out is probably a laundering scheme anyway. Those wheels were probably in motion long before Trump took office.
So when you ask that question, my genuine answer is I don't know. I will say that I would much rather give billions to a country like Israel than I would a country like Iran.
fair enough dude.
i just hope you realize the extent to which israel has a vice grip on our government and the way our elected officials are corrupted and compromised by the israel lobby and therefore prioritize that country's interests over ours - not just in regard to money. that's just the tip of the iceberg.
a true america first agenda would not and does not support this.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 06:44 PM
I didn't vote for Harris because she's a corporate stooge, same as Trump. The rest is you screaming about the voices in your head. You still haven't realized both parties are screwing us. Maybe one day you'll be smart enough to see it.
Well I don't consider MAGA as part of the old GOP because it's basically it's own party now.
Trump all but ousted all the previous power players in the party. Whoever remained from the old guard has basically cozied up to the democrats at this point. So you have the old uni-party establishment and you have MAGA.
MAGA has only been going strong for what... 9 years now? What have they done that's so bad that's even remotely comparable to what the uni-party has done?
Give me your worst example. Be specific.
Hey Yo
05-19-2025, 06:56 PM
Absolutely not. I don't care if you didn't vote for The Cackler, you were clearly pulling for her to win and you were emotionally invested in her victory.
I remember how you acted when Trump got that first mugshot taken. You were the happiest you'd ever been. I refuse to believe you were totally indifferent to the election results.
Election night 2024 was a VERY bad night for you, no doubt.
R3tard said over a year ago that he'd vote for AOC if she was running. Looks like he'll get his chance in 2028 to prove how dumb he really is.
Then again, an alleged hard core anarchist like he claims to be wouldn't give a shit who was president.
Well I don't consider MAGA as part of the old GOP because it's basically it's own party now.
Trump all but ousted all the previous power players in the party. Whoever remained from the old guard has basically cozied up to the democrats at this point. So you have the old uni-party establishment and you have MAGA.
MAGA has only been going strong for what... 9 years now? What have they done that's so bad that's even remotely comparable to what the uni-party has done?
Give me your worst example. Be specific.
Uh seriously?
https://www.epi.org/publication/100-days-100-ways-trump-hurt-workers/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-just-cut-the-minimum-wage-for-hundreds-of-thousands-of-private-sector-workers/
There's a good chance I don't agree with everything stated in these articles btw (I did not read every single of the 100 points, but enough to get the picture for sure, I don't expect you to read the entire thing either to be fair, just enough so you get what I'm saying) so don't try and claim that I do, it's just a good overview of stuff he did that proves he's not for the working man.
Do your research, Trump is the same ol' same ol' you just think he's different cuz he says he is and you take him at his word.
This is also the guy currently bombing Yemen and funding a genocide in Palestine and claiming to be anti war :oldlol:
diamenz
05-19-2025, 07:18 PM
Well I don't consider MAGA as part of the old GOP because it's basically it's own party now.
Trump all but ousted all the previous power players in the party. Whoever remained from the old guard has basically cozied up to the democrats at this point. So you have the old uni-party establishment and you have MAGA.
MAGA has only been going strong for what... 9 years now? What have they done that's so bad that's even remotely comparable to what the uni-party has done?
Give me your worst example. Be specific.
i agree 100%.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 07:26 PM
Uh seriously?
https://www.epi.org/publication/100-days-100-ways-trump-hurt-workers/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-just-cut-the-minimum-wage-for-hundreds-of-thousands-of-private-sector-workers/
There's a good chance I don't agree with everything stated in these articles btw so don't try and claim that I do, it's just a good overview of stuff he did that proves he's not for the working man.
Do your research, Trump is the same ol' same ol' you just think he's different cuz he says he is and you take him at his word.
This is also the guy currently bombing Yemen and funding a genocide in Palestine and claiming to be anti war :oldlol:
It never fails. It really NEVER fails. :oldlol:
You ask a woke lefty to make sense of their own argument and defend their own position, but 99 out of 100 times they cowardly retreat behind some random link to some random opinion editorial they desperately sought out on Google.
"Do your research"... says 3tard as he doesn't even bother to argue from a place of knowledge or expertise. :oldlol:
It never fails. It really NEVER fails. :oldlol:
You ask a woke lefty to make sense of their own argument and defend their own position, but 99 out of 100 times they cowardly retreat behind some random link to some random opinion editorial they desperately sought out on Google.
"Do your research"... says 3tard as he doesn't even bother to argue from a place of knowledge or expertise. :oldlol:
I mean it wouldn't take you long to read a few points, they include links and are backed up with information. You don't have to read the whole thing, just a handful of points until you get what I'm saying. And of course I'm sure there is some stuff you don't think is bad in there, but surely you have to admit some of that is bad for workers?
Besides I brought up the Yemen and Palestine stuff without any links did I not? How is spending money on bombing the middle east benefitting the working class?
Baller234
05-19-2025, 07:38 PM
I mean it wouldn't take you long to read a few points, they include links and are backed up with information. You don't have to read the whole thing, just a handful of points until you get what I'm saying. And of course I'm sure there is some stuff you don't think is bad in there, but surely you have to admit some of that is bad for workers?
Besides I brought up the Yemen and Palestine stuff without any links did I not? How is spending money on bombing the middle east benefitting the working class?
I would never make a declarative statement if I didn't already have the knowledge or know what I was going to say. If you asked me to list off ten reasons why I voted for Trump, I could tell you easily without having to search on Google. If you asked me to list ten reasons why the democrats are corrupt and evil, I could reel off those examples off the top of my head.
You said that the MAGA party was just as evil as the uni-party and that they were screwing over everyday americans just the same, so surely when you said that you must have had examples in mind. Yet when pressed for those examples, you had to retreat to Google and outsource your own argument.
It's just a really strange way to engage in debate.
"Here's this random opinion I found online which proves I'm right"... isn't an argument.
I would never make a declarative statement if I didn't already have the knowledge or know what I was going to say. If you asked me to list off ten reasons why I voted for Trump, I could tell you easily without having to search on Google. If you asked me to list ten reasons why the democrats are corrupt and evil, I could reel off those examples off the top of my head.
You said that the MAGA party was just as evil as the uni-party and that they were screwing over everyday americans just the same, so surely when you said that you must have had examples in mind. Yet when pressed for those examples, you had to retreat to Google and outsource your own argument.
It's just a really strange way to engage in debate.
"Here's this random opinion I found online which proves I'm right"... isn't an argument.
That article isn't an opinion though, it's listing factual stuff Trump did :hammerhead: This is also hilarious because when I DO give you my own opinions you get mad and want me to back it up. Now that I back it up it's bad? :wtf:
So cutting the minimum wage for thousands of workers is good for workers? Limiting collective bargaining agreements is good for workers? Let's just focus on these two since you don't want to read the whole article (not an insult, I get not wanting to read a long ass article)
I'm aware of the reasons you like Trump, but at least be honest and don't claim he's helping the working class. Things have gotten more expensive, and he promised to lower that, and there is no sign of that either. He's doing nothing to get us public healthcare or raise the minimum wage or give workers more rights (the opposite in fact as you see in those articles). You can love Trump if you want, just don't claim he's helping the working class.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 08:17 PM
That article isn't an opinion though, it's listing factual stuff Trump did :hammerhead: This is also hilarious because when I DO give you my own opinions you get mad and want me to back it up. Now that I back it up it's bad? :wtf:
So cutting the minimum wage for thousands of workers is good for workers? Limiting collective bargaining agreements is good for workers? Let's just focus on these two since you don't want to read the whole article (not an insult, I get not wanting to read a long ass article)
I'm aware of the reasons you like Trump, but at least be honest and don't claim he's helping the working class. Things have gotten more expensive, and he promised to lower that, and there is no sign of that either. He's doing nothing to get us public healthcare or raise the minimum wage or give workers more rights (the opposite in fact as you see in those articles). You can love Trump if you want, just don't claim he's helping the working class.
So let me get this straight.
Donald Trump not being able to deliver a $30 minimum wage and free healthcare in his 4.5 years as president means he's just as evil as the democrats?
The democrats that lied about the origin of Covid and assured us it definitely didn't come from a lab? The democrats that demanded we shut down our thriving economy? The greatest transfer of wealth from bottom to top in recent memory?
Wait you seriously think Trump is for public healthcare or raising the minimum wage?
Baller234
05-19-2025, 09:21 PM
Wait you seriously think Trump is for public healthcare or raising the minimum wage?
You said "both parties are screwing us" the same.
Well one party, the uni-party, went to great lengths to intentionally deceive the public on a number of important things. Not only that, but we're only in this recession to begin with because the uni-party demanded we put a halt on our thriving economy. Saving lives was more important they said. That's why you weren't allowed to go paddle boarding by yourself in the middle of the lake. We had no choice but to shut down the world for a year and print trillions of dollars.
I asked you to draw an equivalent on the Trump side, and this is what you bring to the table? Minimum wage and universal healthcare? That makes him and the MAGA party just as bad as the democrats? How? What good is minimum wage means if you explode inflation?
The uni-party lied to you about Covid, shut down the country and reduced your total financial worth by about 30%. Not to mention the other countless unspeakable things they did like mandate vaccines, endorse violent riots, cover up for Brandon's age, enable "genocide" as you say... lol.
So tell me, aside from the "genocide enabling" thing which clearly the uni-party is also guilty of, what exactly did Trump do that compares? What makes him just as bad?
Please be specific.
First of all, you already got answers. You didn't like them and threw a tantrum, but it's not my fault you think union busting and ****ing over workers pay and benefits is good actually. You also can't just gloss over the Israel and Yemen stuff, or the way he's destroying the climate. You keep saying "uniparty" as if Trump isn't part of the Republican party (and a former Democrat btw) who has consistently been buddy buddy with career neocons like Bill Barr, Mike Pence and most recently JD Vance, just off the top of my head. Not to mention the fact that he's getting the support of all his billionaire buddies, but sure he's not on the side of the elite, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerburg just randomly pledged fealty to him for no reason.
warriorfan
05-19-2025, 09:31 PM
First of all, you already got answers. You didn't like them and threw a tantrum, but it's not my fault you think union busting and ****ing over workers pay and benefits is good actually. You also can't just gloss over the Israel and Yemen stuff, or the way he's destroying the climate. You keep saying "uniparty" as if Trump isn't part of the Republican party (and a former Democrat btw) who has consistently been buddy buddy with career neocons like Bill Barr, Mike Pence and most recently JD Vance, just off the top of my head. Not to mention the fact that he's getting the support of all his billionaire buddies, but sure he's not on the side of the elite, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerburg just randomly pledged fealty to him for no reason.
translation. I need to get paid a living wage by shelving books on the governments dime, same government I say are nazi
diamenz
05-19-2025, 09:34 PM
First of all, you already got answers. You didn't like them and threw a tantrum, but it's not my fault you think union busting and ****ing over workers pay and benefits is good actually. You also can't just gloss over the Israel and Yemen stuff, or the way he's destroying the climate. You keep saying "uniparty" as if Trump isn't part of the Republican party (and a former Democrat btw) who has consistently been buddy buddy with career neocons like Bill Barr, Mike Pence and most recently JD Vance, just off the top of my head. Not to mention the fact that he's getting the support of all his billionaire buddies, but sure he's not on the side of the elite, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerburg just randomly pledged fealty to him for no reason.
you need to learn to set realistic expectations and stop living in fantasyland. bernie sanders isn't president. sorry.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 09:56 PM
First of all, you already got answers. You didn't like them and threw a tantrum, but it's not my fault you think union busting and ****ing over workers pay and benefits is good actually. You also can't just gloss over the Israel and Yemen stuff, or the way he's destroying the climate. You keep saying "uniparty" as if Trump isn't part of the Republican party (and a former Democrat btw) who has consistently been buddy buddy with career neocons like Bill Barr, Mike Pence and most recently JD Vance, just off the top of my head. Not to mention the fact that he's getting the support of all his billionaire buddies, but sure he's not on the side of the elite, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerburg just randomly pledged fealty to him for no reason.
Those tech billionaires bent the knee because they had no choice. Trump won. The people had spoken.
Trump was an outsider when he first ran in 2015. He is not the guy the leaders of the party wanted. Paul Ryan? Mitch McConnell? Lol you think they wanted Trump? Nah, Jeb was their guy. Trump basically went to war with Ryan and forced him into exile. Why? Because the people backed Trump. The party had been totally reinvented. Even the demographics had changed. Racial demographics, income demographics... Trump gained ground with a lot of different groups that had never voted republican before. Myself included.
The MAGA party was not born out of the Bush era GOP, it's an entirely different party. In fact not only did Cheney endorse Harris, she actually gloated when it happened. She went on speaking tours with his daughter. Liz Cheney went on The View and got a hero's welcome.
If that doesn't tell you that Trump was up against a uni-party I don't know what does. For someone who claims to be an anarchist that hates government, I'm shocked you're so eager to oppose the first anti-establishment president we've had in our lifetime.
You are cherrypicking Liz Cheney as if the majority of republicans didn't go for Trump still, and even if they didn't, the Democrats are also a conservative party so....? You get that both parties are bad but somehow Trump is exempt from this despite all the bad stuff he's done to the working class and the Middle East. Idk, I tried, I just can't argue with someone who refuses to listen though.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 10:39 PM
You are cherrypicking Liz Cheney as if the majority of republicans didn't go for Trump still, and even if they didn't, the Democrats are also a conservative party so....? You get that both parties are bad but somehow Trump is exempt from this despite all the bad stuff he's done to the working class and the Middle East. Idk, I tried, I just can't argue with someone who refuses to listen though.
who would you rather have in office - trump or a gop neocon like john mccain or a liz cheney? something in that vein. pick your poison rrr3. entertain us.
Baller234
05-19-2025, 10:41 PM
You are cherrypicking Liz Cheney as if the majority of republicans didn't go for Trump still, and even if they didn't, the Democrats are also a conservative party so....? You get that both parties are bad but somehow Trump is exempt from this despite all the bad stuff he's done to the working class and the Middle East. Idk, I tried, I just can't argue with someone who refuses to listen though.
Look at how defensive you get at the mere suggestion that democrats might be worse than Trump.
You claim to be an unbiased party who hates both sides, but you would never ever rush to defend Trump like you do the democrats. When someone dares to suggest that Trump might be the lesser evil, you go into a frenzy.
Hey Yo
05-19-2025, 10:56 PM
Look at how defensive you get at the mere suggestion that democrats might be worse than Trump.
You claim to be an unbiased party who hates both sides, but you would never ever rush to defend Trump like you do the democrats. When someone dares to suggest that Trump might be the lesser evil, you go into a frenzy.
He's so fukkin shook right now :roll:
Some major seething.
diamenz
05-19-2025, 11:19 PM
rrr3 gun to your head - trump or cheney? think fast!
diamenz
05-19-2025, 11:23 PM
aww he signed off. the fun was just beginning. :(
TheMan
05-20-2025, 10:43 AM
rrr3 gun to your head - trump or cheney? think fast!
Basically no difference, both are neo cons and are hostile to the working class...only Trump lies blatantly that he's not.
I’m taking the bullet to the head if the options are Trump or Cheney. People have forgotten how much Cheney paved the way for Trump.
Basically no difference, both are neo cons and are hostile to the working class...only Trump lies blatantly that he's not.
Yes but this is ISH where people are dumb enough to believe the guy busting unions is for the working man.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 11:09 AM
Basically no difference, both are neo cons and are hostile to the working class...only Trump lies blatantly that he's not.
Dick Cheney didn't lie?
https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
TheMan
05-20-2025, 11:12 AM
Yes but this is ISH where people are dumb enough to believe the guy busting unions is for the working man.
Don't forget he's bombing Yemen, wants to go to war with Iran, wants to make Gaza a hotel destination and did more drone strikes, like a lot more than Obama, whom Trump criticized for using drone strikes, but he's the anti-war president, remember?
diamenz
05-20-2025, 11:15 AM
Basically no difference, both are neo cons and are hostile to the working class...only Trump lies blatantly that he's not.
it's not the difference that you want but no - there's definitely a difference.
TheMan
05-20-2025, 11:16 AM
Dick Cheney didn't lie?
https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
I needed to be more specific, Cheney lied us into war, Trump's lies that he's anti-war but also lies about being for the average Joe...Cheney never tried to claim he's a populist.
diamenz
05-20-2025, 11:17 AM
Don't forget he's bombing Yemen, wants to go to war with Iran, wants to make Gaza a hotel destination and did more drone strikes, like a lot more than Obama, whom Trump criticized for using drone strikes, but he's the anti-war president, remember?
i think behind the scenes trump is fed up with bibi and his spoiled attitude. bibi is used to getting everything from the us on a silver platter and he's not getting it. bibi is missing biden. trump's already told him no to a war with iran. you think a neocon would do that?
Baller234
05-20-2025, 11:26 AM
I needed to be more specific, Cheney lied us into war, Trump's lies that he's anti-war but also lies about being for the average Joe...Cheney never tried to claim he's a populist.
Cheney lied us to into a WAR you say? Geez, that sounds pretty bad.
When has Orange Face ever lied us into a war?
TheMan
05-20-2025, 11:27 AM
it's not the difference that you want but no - there's definitely a difference.
How? Trump is bombing Yemen and had a lot more drone strikes than Obama, he's also threatening war with Iran, which would be disastrous. That's not how an anti-war president acts. He's never been anti-war, he says it because that's what y'all want to hear after GWB's awful military interventions and Obama keeping the status quo in the ME
diamenz
05-20-2025, 11:31 AM
How? Trump is bombing Yemen and had a lot more drone strikes than Obama, he's also threatening war with Iran, which would be disastrous. That's not how an anti-war president acts. He's never been anti-war, he says it because that's what y'all want to hear after GWB's awful military interventions and Obama keeping the status quo in the ME
are we at war with iran? when we're in a hot war with iran then by all means, fire away at me and i'll fold.
trump doesn't fully understand the yemen situation because he still has too many bad advisors in his ear.
if trump brings peace to ukraine, will you still complain? if he holds bibi at bay will you complain? you're jumping the gun here and that's all i have to say about that.
TheMan
05-20-2025, 11:38 AM
Cheney lied us to into a WAR you say? Geez, that sounds pretty bad.
When has Orange Face ever lied us into a war?
He's bombing Yemen and threatening war with Iran.
He's still got time...
To be fair, I will give Trump major props if he reigns in Netanyahu though, I would even praise him because it's a genocide in Gaza and it's unforgivable that Biden never even tried to stop it, if Trump does, big ups on that front.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 11:41 AM
He's bombing Yemen and threatening war with Iran.
He's still got time...
To be fair, I will give Trump major props if he reigns in Netanyahu though, I would even praise him because it's a genocide in Gaza and it's unforgivable that Biden never even tried to stop it, if Trump does, big ups on that front.
Oh he's threatening a war? That's interesting. Has he started one?
I didn't ask if Trump bombed another country. Every president has bombed another country. It comes with the territory when you're a world superpower. I didn't ask if he started a war either.
I asked you when did Trump ever take our country to war over a LIE.
Please, provide me an example.
TheMan
05-20-2025, 11:44 AM
Oh he's threatening a war? That's interesting. Has he started one?
I didn't ask if Trump bombed another country. Every president has bombed another country. It comes with the territory when you're a world superpower. I didn't ask if he started a war either.
I asked you when did Trump ever take our country to war over a LIE.
Please, provide me an example.
He hasn't...yet.
And if he doesn't during his second term, I'll admit it and believe me, I wouldn't mind eating crow on that one, we need new wars like we need a hole on our heads.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 11:45 AM
He hasn't...yet.
And if he doesn't during his second term, I'll admit it and believe me, I wouldn't mind eating crow on that one, we need new wars like we need a hole on our heads.
Wtf??
So then if Trump hasn't done what Cheney has done, in what way are they equal? How is Trump not the lesser evil?
Off the Court
05-20-2025, 12:03 PM
Hard to compare Trump to anyone else because one of his main negatives is the social divide he has created and he was able to achieve that because of his bloated ego and taking to social media. Cheney was awful obviously, but he would have been a non-factor in the culture war and doesn't care to take to Twitter and has no Trumpian ego. Their both bad in different ways.
Cheney is basically just known for being a war criminal, and I will say that is probably worse than the US culture divide assuming we don't go into an actual civil war.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 12:09 PM
Hard to compare Trump to anyone else because one of his main negatives is the social divide he has created and he was able to achieve that because of his bloated ego and taking to social media. Cheney was awful obviously, but he would have been a non-factor in the culture war and doesn't care to take to Twitter and has no Trumpian ego. Their both bad in different ways.
Cheney is basically just known for being a war criminal, and I will say that is probably worse than the US culture divide assuming we don't go into an actual civil war.
To be fair I agree that Trump has been divisive, but that's mainly because the other half of the country that hates him is delusional and despises America. It's no surprise that his bravado and his attitude would offend the wokesters and the commies.
We were always divided, we just didn't know it. Trump just lured the vampires into the sun.
diamenz
05-20-2025, 12:14 PM
if you don't think there's any difference between trump and a classical neocon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkkPRt8KzuY
cheney would be quick to say *uck you and your social safety nets.
Off the Court
05-20-2025, 12:20 PM
To be fair I agree that Trump has been divisive, but that's mainly because the other half of the country that hates him is delusional and despises America. It's no surprise that his bravado and his attitude would offend the wokesters and the commies.
We were always divided, we just didn't know it. Trump just lured the vampires into the sun.
It is a massive flaw for any leader, you're supposed to unite whatever it is you are leading. Great leaders put their ego aside and unite everyone. If an NBA coach pitted half of the team against the other then the team would implode. They literally wouldn't be a "team".
It’s perfectly reasonable to say Cheney is worse than Trump. The problem is we remember you guys sucking Cheney’s dick too, we haven’t forgotten. Now you want to pretend you didn’t love him and W.
Patrick Chewing
05-20-2025, 01:59 PM
He's bombing Yemen and threatening war with Iran.
He's still got time...
To be fair, I will give Trump major props if he reigns in Netanyahu though, I would even praise him because it's a genocide in Gaza and it's unforgivable that Biden never even tried to stop it, if Trump does, big ups on that front.
Another use of the term "genocide"
:oldlol:
diamenz
05-20-2025, 04:10 PM
It’s perfectly reasonable to say Cheney is worse than Trump. The problem is we remember you guys sucking Cheney’s dick too, we haven’t forgotten. Now you want to pretend you didn’t love him and W.
ish was a thing 00-08? you were like five years old, if that.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 04:35 PM
It’s perfectly reasonable to say Cheney is worse than Trump. The problem is we remember you guys sucking Cheney’s dick too, we haven’t forgotten. Now you want to pretend you didn’t love him and W.
So if Cheney is worse than Trump, and he endorsed Harris, doesn't that mean you're on the worse side? :oldlol:
Trump rose to prominence in the primaries bashing the W administration and bashing the Bush family, so obviously they weren't that popular with voters or else Trump's strategy would have failed. The people had enough.
MAGA aren't the ones being hypocrites here. Democrats used to swear up and down that Dick Cheney was the devil himself, but just a few months ago they were totally giddy when it came to bragging about his and his daughter's endorsement. Apparently when it comes to team blue all past sins are forgiven if you come out against Donald Trump.
Which is very weird because you just said Cheney is worse.
Baller234
05-20-2025, 04:47 PM
It is a massive flaw for any leader, you're supposed to unite whatever it is you are leading. Great leaders put their ego aside and unite everyone. If an NBA coach pitted half of the team against the other then the team would implode. They literally wouldn't be a "team".
That's not really a perfect analogy.
If we were a basketball team and Trump was the coach, it would be like half the team being angry at him for wanting to feed the ball to our best player. What is a coach supposed to do when half the team is totally beyond the pale and won't listen to reason?
Take illegal immigration for example. Trump said this was a huge problem back in 2015, but democrats fought him tooth and nail on it for 9 years and opposed him every step of the way. When millions of illegals were pouring in totally unscreened, democrats saw nothing wrong with it. If you dared to mention it you were either a conspiracy theorist or a racist bigot.
So how is Trump supposed to entertain that half of the country? The half that doesn't follow logic and is totally caught up in hating Trump above all else.
Off the Court
05-20-2025, 05:07 PM
That's not really a perfect analogy.
If we were a basketball team and Trump was the coach, it would be like half the team being angry at him for wanting to feed the ball to our best player. What is a coach supposed to do when half the team is totally beyond the pale and won't listen to reason?
Take illegal immigration for example. Trump said this was a huge problem back in 2015, but democrats fought him tooth and nail on it for 9 years and opposed him every step of the way. When millions of illegals were pouring in totally unscreened, democrats saw nothing wrong with it. If you dared to mention it you were either a conspiracy theorist or a racist bigot.
So how is Trump supposed to entertain that half of the country? The half that doesn't follow logic and is totally caught up in hating Trump above all else.
Not rage at them, not call them lunatics daily, not divide them even more, etc. Trump can't make an Easter tweet without making it about "far left lunatics". No other modern day POTUS has been like that. Was Obama calling you a dumb hick? No it would have turned you into more of an extremist.
Also blaming half the country for something isn't even feasible. "It's not Trump, half the country is just nuts!". If that many people feel a certain way there is something to it.
Hey Yo
05-20-2025, 05:28 PM
It is a massive flaw for any leader, you're supposed to unite whatever it is you are leading. Great leaders put their ego aside and unite everyone. If an NBA coach pitted half of the team against the other then the team would implode. They literally wouldn't be a "team".
The main thing Biden ran on in 2020 was uniting the country. He did the exact opposite by showing he cared more about illegals than he did U.S citizens
Hey Yo
05-20-2025, 05:29 PM
It is a massive flaw for any leader, you're supposed to unite whatever it is you are leading. Great leaders put their ego aside and unite everyone. If an NBA coach pitted half of the team against the other then the team would implode. They literally wouldn't be a "team".
The main thing Biden ran on in 2020 was uniting the country. He did the exact opposite by showing he cared more about illegals than he did U.S citizens
Baller234
05-20-2025, 06:57 PM
Not rage at them, not call them lunatics daily, not divide them even more, etc. Trump can't make an Easter tweet without making it about "far left lunatics". No other modern day POTUS has been like that. Was Obama calling you a dumb hick? No it would have turned you into more of an extremist.
Also blaming half the country for something isn't even feasible. "It's not Trump, half the country is just nuts!". If that many people feel a certain way there is something to it.
Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorables" while she was running for president. Biden called them "garbage". During this last election cycle when Obama saw that Harris was struggling to gain ground with black men, he swooped in and basically called them insecure sexists who couldn't stomach voting for a woman.
I also vividly remember Biden addressing the nation in the months after the vaccine, and he told the unvaccinated that his "patience was wearing thin". What does that mean? What happens once you run out of patience? Was that a threat?
So yea, you can stop trying to pretend that democrats are holier than thou. You guys called Trump and his voters every name in the book and hurled every dehumanizing label you could. But god forbid we call you guys crazy nutbags for the number of insane shit you guys support. :oldlol:
Baller234
05-20-2025, 07:05 PM
The main thing Biden ran on in 2020 was uniting the country. He did the exact opposite by showing he cared more about illegals than he did U.S citizens
I'm starting to think OTC is a glutton for punishment. Every debate he partakes in is the same.
> OTC cites alternative facts and says something blatantly untrue or hypocritical
> User responds and corrects him, citing his false information
> OTC doubles down as if his entire argument wasn't just dismantled
> OTC starts new debate citing new alternative facts
It's an endless cycle.
warriorfan
05-20-2025, 07:53 PM
I'm starting to think OTC is a glutton for punishment. Every debate he partakes in is the same.
> OTC cites alternative facts and says something blatantly untrue or hypocritical
> User responds and corrects him, citing his false information
> OTC doubles down as if his entire argument wasn't just dismantled
> OTC starts new debate citing new alternative facts
It's an endless cycle.
OTC and Gates apparently have made a side hustle of wandering to thread to thread while getting absolutely blown the **** out.
Its pretty wild tbh :lol
diamenz
05-20-2025, 10:52 PM
@rrr3 @TheMan
trump vs netanyahu:
- circumvented netanyahu on doing a deal with the houthis.
- went against the wishes of netanyahu on attacking iran.
- circumvented netanyahu on getting the final american hostage freed.
this is just so far. credit where credit is due or not? what did biden do, ever to stand up to bibi?
would a necon have done these things if they were in office, rrr3? so trump > neocon or not? still cheney = trump?
diamenz
05-21-2025, 12:40 AM
@rrr3 @TheMan
trump vs netanyahu:
- circumvented netanyahu on doing a deal with the houthis.
- went against the wishes of netanyahu on attacking iran.
- circumvented netanyahu on getting the final american hostage freed.
this is just so far. credit where credit is due or not? what did biden do, ever to stand up to bibi?
would a necon have done these things if they were in office, rrr3? so trump > neocon or not? still cheney = trump?
@rrr3
yeah i didn't think you had it in you to give credit where credit is due. go ahead and destroy your own credibility and prove that you have no integrity. nobody takes your stupidass seriously around here.
TheMan
05-23-2025, 01:19 PM
@rrr3 @TheMan
trump vs netanyahu:
- circumvented netanyahu on doing a deal with the houthis.
- went against the wishes of netanyahu on attacking iran.
- circumvented netanyahu on getting the final american hostage freed.
this is just so far. credit where credit is due or not? what did biden do, ever to stand up to bibi?
would a necon have done these things if they were in office, rrr3? so trump > neocon or not? still cheney = trump?
If Trump makes that genocidal Zionist maniac stop, I will gladly give him credit. So far the Zionists continue starving and murdering Palestinian civilians so...
Patrick Chewing
05-23-2025, 02:06 PM
If Trump makes that genocidal Zionist maniac stop, I will gladly give him credit. So far the Zionists continue starving and murdering Palestinian civilians so...
Stop it with the lies and the regurgitation of the same nonsense.
Tell your boys in Hamas to release the hostages and the war is over.
Stop it with the lies and the regurgitation of the same nonsense.
Tell your boys in Hamas to release the hostages and the war is over.
No it isn't.
"We are disassembling Gaza, and leaving it as piles of rubble, with total destruction [which has] no precedent globally. And the world isn't stopping us. There are pressures. There are those who attack [us]; they are trying to [make us] stop; they are not succeeding. You know why they aren't succeeding? Because we are navigating [the campaign] responsibly and wisely, and that's how we'll continue to do [it]."-Smotrich, Israel finance minister.
They're admitting they don't care about Hamas and the goal is just to obliterate the whole region.
Baller234
05-27-2025, 02:50 PM
The New York Times just did a comprehensive analysis of the 2024 election and it looks like the non-white minorities are joining the ranks of racist Trump voters.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/25/us/politics/trump-politics-democrats.html
https://x.com/MattGrossmann/status/1926715247643025629?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926715247643025629%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Extremely alarming trends if you're a democrat. Trump gained ground with every single demographic EXCEPT upper class whites. That was the only group that increased in numbers for democrats. :oldlol:
TheMan can you explain why so many minorities are turning towards Trump? I thought he was supposed to be the racist in this election. Are you saying you're better at detecting racism than they are? Do you think they're just stupid or do you think they're racists as well?
Also, since affluent white people are the only group that democrats managed to make improvements with, are you saying they're smarter and morally superior to everyone else that voted for Trump?
It would be really swell if you can address this.
Thanks.
TheMan
05-27-2025, 03:25 PM
The New York Times just did a comprehensive analysis of the 2024 election and it looks like the non-white minorities are joining the ranks of racist Trump voters.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/25/us/politics/trump-politics-democrats.html
https://x.com/MattGrossmann/status/1926715247643025629?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1926715247643025629%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Extremely alarming trends if you're a democrat. Trump gained ground with every single demographic EXCEPT upper class whites. That was the only group that increased in numbers for democrats. :oldlol:
TheMan can you explain why so many minorities are turning towards Trump? I thought he was supposed to be the racist in this election. Are you saying you're better at detecting racism than they are? Do you think they're just stupid or do you think they're racists as well?
Also, since affluent white people are the only group that democrats managed to make improvements with, are you saying they're smarter and morally superior to everyone else that voted for Trump?
It would be really swell if you can address this.
Thanks.
There are more idiots than people who think things through...
The End
Baller234
05-27-2025, 03:34 PM
There are more idiots than people who think things through...
The End
Wow this answer is very revealing.
For one it shows you think very little of these minority voters. So you're saying they're just dumb? You can detect racism but their feeble minds can't? Any non-white minority person that doesn't vote the same way you do is a low IQ idiot? Hmm, that's very interesting. Are you sure you're not racist?
Also, does that mean you think higher of upper class whites? Since they're so on the money when it comes to voting for democrats?
Lakers Legend#32
05-27-2025, 03:55 PM
The main thing Biden ran on in 2020 was uniting the country. He did the exact opposite by showing he cared more about illegals than he did U.S citizens
Trump and his supporters don't want unity.
Their whole brand is division.
Hey Yo
05-27-2025, 05:17 PM
Wow this answer is very revealing.
For one it shows you think very little of these minority voters. So you're saying they're just dumb? You can detect racism but their feeble minds can't? Any non-white minority person that doesn't vote the same way you do is a low IQ idiot? Hmm, that's very interesting. Are you sure you're not racist?
Also, does that mean you think higher of upper class whites? Since they're so on the money when it comes to voting for democrats?
NachoMan always steps in his own shit while getting owned :lol
warriorfan
05-27-2025, 05:20 PM
NachoMan always steps in his own shit while getting owned :lol
It’s because any of his conclusions and subsequent positions he forms off of them are purely based on emotion rather than critical thinking.
Long story short he’s basically a woman.
Trump and his supporters don't want unity.
Their whole brand is division.
True.
TheMan
05-28-2025, 02:20 PM
It’s because any of his conclusions and subsequent positions he forms off of them are purely based on emotion rather than critical thinking.
Long story short he’s basically a woman.
Nah, it's based on facts, example...You're easily one of the dumbest posters here, you're a Trumptard...
See how easy that was?
TheMan
05-28-2025, 02:25 PM
Wow this answer is very revealing.
For one it shows you think very little of these minority voters. So you're saying they're just dumb? You can detect racism but their feeble minds can't? Any non-white minority person that doesn't vote the same way you do is a low IQ idiot? Hmm, that's very interesting. Are you sure you're not racist?
Also, does that mean you think higher of upper class whites? Since they're so on the money when it comes to voting for democrats?
Like I said, the dumb Hispanics, dumb blacks and dumb rednecks all got together in the last election and their dumb candidate won. And it's not racist to surmise people with higher education will be smarter than a high school dropout, it's not that complicated.
Prove me wrong.
Patrick Chewing
05-28-2025, 02:31 PM
Like I said, the dumb Hispanics, dumb blacks and dumb rednecks all got together in the last election and their dumb candidate won.
Prove me wrong.
Mira Mexicano....sigues hablando estupideces y me vas a encontrar en frente de tu puerta unos de estos dias.
TheMan
05-28-2025, 02:43 PM
Mira Mexicano....sigues hablando estupideces y me vas a encontrar en frente de tu puerta unos de estos dias.
In English you fat Cuban gusano. BTW, how did you escape El Salvador, didn't Trump deport your ass along with all them other Cubans?
Patrick Chewing
05-28-2025, 03:13 PM
In English you fat Cuban gusano. BTW, how did you escape El Salvador, didn't Trump deport your ass along with all them other Cubans?
Te voy a cortar.
Baller234
05-28-2025, 05:38 PM
Like I said, the dumb Hispanics, dumb blacks and dumb rednecks all got together in the last election and their dumb candidate won. And it's not racist to surmise people with higher education will be smarter than a high school dropout, it's not that complicated.
Prove me wrong.
Lol you guys still think it's 1960 and going to college actually means something. Yes at one point it was prestigious to go to college and it meant something if you had your degree. Those days are long gone. Most colleges have been reduced to adult daycare centers. In fact I would put my money on the average middle schooler from the 80's being more knowledgeable than the average college student today.
Here are countless examples of college students not being able to answer the most basic elementary questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIt3sq4ALk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhH43XRAKV0
Here is a liberal arts college where so called "smart" people spend money obtaining utterly worthless degrees that will never yield them a single penny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk6WUskYfg8
These are the so called smart and enlightened people who vote democrat?
:oldlol:
TheMan
05-28-2025, 07:07 PM
Lol you guys still think it's 1960 and going to college actually means something. Yes at one point it was prestigious to go to college and it meant something if you had your degree. Those days are long gone. Most colleges have been reduced to adult daycare centers. In fact I would put my money on the average middle schooler from the 80's being more knowledgeable than the average college student today.
Here are countless examples of college students not being able to answer the most basic elementary questions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYIt3sq4ALk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhH43XRAKV0
Here is a liberal arts college where so called "smart" people spend money obtaining utterly worthless degrees that will never yield them a single penny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk6WUskYfg8
These are the so called smart and enlightened people who vote democrat?
:oldlol:
Let's believe a video on YouTube from a content creator that depends on views! They're totally not staged ever!
How are you so gullible?
And yes, I will repeat it again, on average a college graduate is more knowledgeable than someone who barely got by and finished high school.
Baller234
05-28-2025, 07:19 PM
Let's believe a video on YouTube from a content creator that depends on views! They're totally not staged ever!
How are you so gullible?
And yes, I will repeat it again, on average a college graduate is more knowledgeable than someone who barely got by and finished high school.
So you watched those videos and came to the conclusion that they were all staged?
https://media1.tenor.com/m/g7nzxqrG9GIAAAAC/girl-sure-jan.gif
TheMan
05-28-2025, 07:25 PM
So you watched those videos and came to the conclusion that they were all staged?
https://media1.tenor.com/m/g7nzxqrG9GIAAAAC/girl-sure-jan.gif
They're staged and or heavily edited to fit a narrative :confusedshrug:
And just so I understand your point, are you claiming the US don't have smart people, that the US is just full of mouthbreathers? Wouldn't that make my point even stronger when I claim that the reason Trump won is because morons make up the majority? :lol
Baller234
05-28-2025, 07:31 PM
They're staged and or heavily edited to fit a narrative :confusedshrug:
Then either you didn't watch the videos or you're functionally autistic, because there are plenty of unedited sequences where you can clearly see the students struggling with the questions.
Say what you will about the Trump voters on the forum, but they usually have the courage of their convictions. How come so many of you on the anti-Trump side are liars and cowards?
TheMan
05-28-2025, 07:40 PM
Then either you didn't watch the videos or you're functionally autistic, because there are plenty of unedited sequences where you can clearly see the students struggling with the questions.
Say what you will about the Trump voters on the forum, but they usually have the courage of their convictions. How come so many of you on the anti-Trump side are liars and cowards?
Some of the worst ISH members are avid Trump supporters...and just because they have the courage to demonstrate their stupidity shouldn't be a flex lol
warriorfan
05-28-2025, 08:51 PM
Nah, it's based on facts, example...You're easily one of the dumbest posters here, you're a Trumptard...
See how easy that was?
You are a loser beaner who spends his free time googling about donald trump
TheMan
05-29-2025, 09:24 AM
You are a loser beaner who spends his free time googling about donald trump
Ok methy
Patrick Chewing
05-29-2025, 10:39 AM
These Mexicans on this board make me sick. Ya'll should be making tacos and enchiladas, but instead you're obsessing over Trump. Priorities, bitches!
These Mexicans on this board make me sick. Ya'll should be making tacos and enchiladas, but instead you're obsessing over Trump. Priorities, bitches!
Of course you wake up thinking about food :roll:
Patrick Chewing
05-29-2025, 10:44 AM
Of course you wake up thinking about food :roll:
You need food to survive. Jewish food is not that good either.
You need food to survive. Jewish food is not that good either.
Tubs, don't act like you wouldn't devour a plate of latkes.
Patrick Chewing
05-29-2025, 01:27 PM
Tubs, don't act like you wouldn't devour a plate of latkes.
Had them before, not bad. My sister married a Jew and we had some at the reception.
TheMan
05-29-2025, 03:00 PM
Of course you wake up thinking about food :roll:
He weighs 400 lbs, can't help himself lol
highwhey
05-29-2025, 04:54 PM
Of course you wake up thinking about food :roll:
:yaohappy:
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