Jamal Murray has sucked outside of 2023.

[StrongLurk]

This is related to Jokic's peak which started in 2021.

Jamal Murray missed the 2021 and 2022 playoffs.

Here is his production in the 2024 and 2025 playoffs: 26 games, 13.9 PER, 51.6 TS%, 0.31 WS/48, 0.5 BPM.

Is this the amazing number 2 option that Jokic is supposed to win with every year? Jamal Murray had a great 2023 playoff run, and of course, Jokic won a ring/FMVP and had a legendary playoff run.

Murray has sucked outside of 2023. I can't believe people are trying to claim Jokic isn't a GOAT level player because he only has 1 ring/FMVP. You need a TEAM to ultimately win a ring, especially in the modern era.

[SouBeachTalents]

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[3ba11]

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Pippen averaged 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs including the worst efficiency ever in 96' and 98'.

So Jokic simply isn't good enough to win with weak help like MJ did

Pippen also had the worst advanced boxscore stats of any winning sidekick on the 93' run (BPM, PER, VORP, WS/48, TS)

[GOBB]

I love a good ISH meltdown. Miss that about this board.

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Pippen averaged 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs including the worst efficiency ever in 96' and 98'.

So Jokic simply isn't good enough to win with weak help like MJ did

Pippen also had the worst advanced boxscore stats of any winning sidekick on the 93' run (BPM, PER, VORP, WS/48, TS)
Peep Vernon Maxwell & '03 Parker. It's just amazing you think you can get away with such blatant lies when it can be fact checked immediately :lol

[rmt]

The OP doth protest too much, methinks.

[StrongLurk]

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Pippen averaged 17 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs including the worst efficiency ever in 96' and 98'.

So Jokic simply isn't good enough to win with weak help like MJ did

Pippen also had the worst advanced boxscore stats of any winning sidekick on the 93' run (BPM, PER, VORP, WS/48, TS)

Pippen gave all-nba defense and actually PLAYED in the playoffs. Jamal Murray is missing a bunch of playoff runs entirely, and we know MJ couldn't do anything without Pip by his side. The 90's also had the weakest competition (no dynasties like the 80s, barely any international talent, shorted 3-point line, massive expansion). Pip relative to era/competition is far ahead of Jamal Murray.

[JohnnySic]

News flash: Murray isn't a legit #2. He's more of a really good #3. That's always been pretty clear. The Nuggets need another star. A #2 or #3, however you choose to define it.

[Rockstar]

News flash: Murray isn't a legit #2. He's more of a really good #3. That's always been pretty clear. The Nuggets need another star. A #2 or #3, however you choose to define it.
No, they just need a solid bench and a decent backup center to win it all.