Can 6' 0" Iverson, The Answer, Win NBA Title in this era? "yes" or "no"

[gengiskhan]

That 2001 AI run. He literally stole the Season MVP from 2001 Shaq. the latter was fully deserving of back-2-back season MVP.

4 x scoring champ

3 x steals champ

He stormed into 2001 NBA Finals from very weak East Conf. lost the finals 1-4. To Shaq, Kobe and the legendary LAL line up.

His regular season career scoring average of 26.7 points per game ranks seventh all-time.
His playoff career scoring average of 29.7 points per game trails only Michael Jordan and Luka Dončić.

was AI ahead of his time. should he have played today.

I say he could win NBA title all by himself in grueling 7 games series in today's soft defensive rules. AI has that motor ant man wishes.

AI is the better version of Westbook imo.

[Meticode]

AI would love today's NBA. They don't practice nearly as often now as they used to.

[Xiao Yao You]

No

[warriorfan]

No

AI would have broke Gobert’s ankles so bad he would never been able to walk again

[gengiskhan]

AI would love today's NBA. They don't practice nearly as often now as they used to.

and also Win a NBA Title imo.

2001 AI shot jocked, ball hogged, kobe style to the limit and dragged a mediocre SIXERS to NBA Finals and went up 1-0 with 48 pts Game 1 performance.

Against Shaq's LAL, an all time great Dynasty.

That 48 pts Game 1 literally destroying Kobe and stepping all over LBJs future title winning coach was wild fun.

When I look at AI, I see nothing but a 6' 0" version of Kobe who loved shot jock from every inch within the halfcourt.

today's NBA, 20 pts lead are blown away in like 3 mins like its a 8 pts lead. Both AI and Kobe would love that. I say AI on his motor alone can win a title in today's NBA.

[GOBB]

Yes. If Shai can get to the line like he does. AI surely would. Put AI on OKC in place of Shai.

[Neal Romer]

I dunno.

Teams are more serious now.

Iverson played in an era where teams were taking Olawukandi, Kenyon Martin, and Kwame Brown with first overall picks. Second overall picks of the period included Steve Francis and Stromile Swift.

It was a period where the NBA valued kids from the playground who could jump high in baggy shorts and project "swag" in the hopes of replicating MJ's shoes and gatorade sales of the 90s. A lot of em werent even good at basketball. And a lot of them were very immature and not ready to be professionals. This was the NBA's version of the dark ages.

You see a lot less of those players today in the "billion dollar team valuation era." Players work harder today. They get in less trouble today. Theyre smarter. More focused, more serious about leadership.

If that sounds to you like an environment Iverson would adapt easily to and thrive, then yeah I guess hed have a chance. Just sort of depends on how you view his intangibles I guess.

[SouBeachTalents]

He's not quite GimmeThat, but OP types so much while really saying so little. This thread is just a jumbled mess of ideas that barely has a coherent point.

Also have no idea why he put "yes" and "no" in quotation marks :lol

[Xiao Yao You]

Inifficient gunner taking low % shots not the blueprint to winning now or then

[tpols]

Hes basically rich man's ja morant that doesn't get injured. He would smash this league. If you think SGA is slippery and quick, this guy would be like a hot knife through butter today slicing defenses up and he played with big cajones. Not the brightest bulb or best team player, but it wouldn't matter with the lanes slashers have today.

[tontoz]

I dunno.

Teams are more serious now.

Iverson played in an era where teams were taking Olawukandi, Kenyon Martin, and Kwame Brown with first overall picks. Second overall picks of the period included Steve Francis and Stromile Swift.




You do realize that Risacher was picked first just last year, right?

[FKAri]

Depends on the team around him. With that 01 team tho? Hell no.

[Wally450]

I don't think he'd be able to carry a team through the East. Nevermind a West team in the Finals.

[1987_Lakers]

Depends on the team around him. With that 01 team tho? Hell no.

This

And Im taking current SGA over any version of Iverson

[GOBB]

Hes basically rich man's ja morant that doesn't get injured. He would smash this league. If you think SGA is slippery and quick, this guy would be like a hot knife through butter today slicing defenses up and he played with big cajones. Not the brightest bulb or best team player, but it wouldn't matter with the lanes slashers have today.

Not the brightest bulb? You dudes just be typing anything nowadays. Bunch of Achos with hot takes.

[GOBB]

I dunno.

Teams are more serious now.

Iverson played in an era where teams were taking Olawukandi, Kenyon Martin, and Kwame Brown with first overall picks. Second overall picks of the period included Steve Francis and Stromile Swift.

It was a period where the NBA valued kids from the playground who could jump high in baggy shorts and project "swag" in the hopes of replicating MJ's shoes and gatorade sales of the 90s. A lot of em werent even good at basketball. And a lot of them were very immature and not ready to be professionals. This was the NBA's version of the dark ages.

You see a lot less of those players today in the "billion dollar team valuation era." Players work harder today. They get in less trouble today. Theyre smarter. More focused, more serious about leadership.

If that sounds to you like an environment Iverson would adapt easily to and thrive, then yeah I guess hed have a chance. Just sort of depends on how you view his intangibles I guess.

Anthony Edwards has 4 kids with 4 different women. One of whom he said he wants no parts raising the kid. Immature? Unprofessional? Yeah today’s players aren’t that.

[tontoz]

Is Ja Morant more interested in guns or basketball? Hard to say.

Zion serious? About food for sure, about basketball not so much.

[GOBB]

Is Ja Morant more interested in guns or basketball? Hard to say.

Zion serious? About food for sure, about basketball not so much.

Ben Simmons said hello

[tpols]

Not the brightest bulb? You dudes just be typing anything nowadays. Bunch of Achos with hot takes.

His IQ is definitely sub 100. Just like yours. You two could be battle buddies. :lol

Couple of knuckleheads you two are, but its ok. AI had generational athleticism. Hes probably the fastest NBA player in league history.

[tpols]

Anthony Edwards has 4 kids with 4 different women. One of whom he said he wants no parts raising the kid. Immature? Unprofessional? Yeah today’s players aren’t that.

He doesn't dress like a gang banger though or carry a strong ghetto chip on his shoulder. Iverson was a lot more hood than today's generation of brothers.

[Gudo]

Not too long ago 5'8 Isiah Thomas averaged 30ppg and led the Celtics deep in the playoffs for a number of years. Yeah AI won't be able to do it.

[GOBB]

He doesn't dress like a gang banger though or carry a strong ghetto chip on his shoulder. Iverson was a lot more hood than today's generation of brothers.

Yeah you’re a Karen. Black people with tattoos and baggy clothes? Gang banger! Hide your daughters. Lock your doors. Help! Help! Help me! Good thing you’re not a cop. One more d*ckhead that’s sees every person of color as a threat.

[1987_Lakers]

Not too long ago 5'8 Isiah Thomas averaged 30ppg and led the Celtics deep in the playoffs for a number of years. Yeah AI won't be able to do it.

In the East. Beat a 41 win team in the first round and a Wizards team that were never contenders. Got destroyed by LeBron.

[tpols]

Yeah you’re a Karen. Black people with tattoos and baggy clothes? Gang banger! Hide your daughters. Lock your doors. Help! Help! Help me! Good thing you’re not a cop. One more d*ckhead that’s sees every person of color as a threat.

It's not the color of the person dummy. It's the attire they wear and their body language and behavior. Low class is low class no matter the demographic. Iverson was literally on his way to prison before basketball. Did you know that GOBB?

[GOBB]

It's not the color of the person dummy. It's the attire they wear and their body language and behavior. Low class is low class no matter the demographic. Iverson was literally on his way to prison before basketball. Did you know that GOBB?

Yeah you’re beyond clueless. Definitely Karen vibes.


Oh you mean the bowling alley brawl where the white side used racial slurs and a fight broke out where BOTH parties exchanged blows and threw things? You mean an incident that exposed the racial motivation behind it in good ole Virginia? Yeah that was just typical thug behavior by AI. Maybe educate yourself on that situation before running your suck? Clown.


https://www.gq.com/story/skip-bayless-on-allen-iverson

Hilarious how Skip can see the error in his ways but you can’t. Lame

[Xiao Yao You]

Not too long ago 5'8 Isiah Thomas averaged 30ppg and led the Celtics deep in the playoffs for a number of years. Yeah AI won't be able to do it.

Deep in the playoffs in the east sure? Why not? Winning a title no

[GOBB]

Deep in the playoffs in the east sure? Why not? Winning a title no

Guess AI and Rudy have something in common.

[Neal Romer]

Is Ja Morant more interested in guns or basketball? Hard to say.

Zion serious? About food for sure, about basketball not so much.


I didnt say every player today is exemplary, I said more were. You dont see entire teams nicknamed the "Jail Blazers" today. You dont see Malice at the Palace. Guys arent choking their coach, or shooting at their own rims for triple doubles.

If you dont think today's game is more professional than the late 90s/early 00s when the face of the league was declaring he shouldnt have to practice... I dunno what to tell ya. We just see it different ways.

And the two exceptions you listed have been emblems of underachievement in this era, which kinda reinforces the point.

[tpols]

Yeah you’re beyond clueless. Definitely Karen vibes.


Oh you mean the bowling alley brawl where the white side used racial slurs and a fight broke out where BOTH parties exchanged blows and threw things? You mean an incident that exposed the racial motivation behind it in good ole Virginia? Yeah that was just typical thug behavior by AI. Maybe educate yourself on that situation before running your suck? Clown.


https://www.gq.com/story/skip-bayless-on-allen-iverson

Hilarious how Skip can see the error in his ways but you can’t. Lame

GOBB I considered you to be one of us man. We're both articulate and sophisticated and positive role models for our communities. Let's go dude! :cheers:

[tontoz]

I didnt say every player today is exemplary, I said more were. You dont see entire teams nicknamed the "Jail Blazers" today. You dont see Malice at the Palace. Guys arent choking their coach, or shooting at their own rims for triple doubles.

If you dont think today's game is more professional than the late 90s/early 00s when the face of the league was declaring he shouldnt have to practice... I dunno what to tell ya. We just see it different ways.

And the two exceptions you listed have been emblems of underachievement in this era, which kinda reinforces the point.



Guys back then didn't sit out for "rest". They didn't sign huge deals and then immediately demand a trade before their new deal even starts.

Funny how the game was so much more popular in the "unprofessional" era.

[3ba11]

Yes because it's become a league of ball-dominators, so peak Iverson would be the same MVP caliber that SGA is,

but this time he wouldn't have a ball-movement dynasty like the Lakers to deal with - he could just destroy a "downhill" simpleton ball-dominator like Ant or Brunson

[GOBB]

I didnt say every player today is exemplary, I said more were. You dont see entire teams nicknamed the "Jail Blazers" today. You dont see Malice at the Palace. Guys arent choking their coach, or shooting at their own rims for triple doubles.

If you dont think today's game is more professional than the late 90s/early 00s when the face of the league was declaring he shouldnt have to practice... I dunno what to tell ya. We just see it different ways.

And the two exceptions you listed have been emblems of underachievement in this era, which kinda reinforces the point.

Jailblazers? Who on that team went to jail. If you can’t find anyone ask yourself who gave them that nickname? Is it the same people that tend to control narratives and sway bozos like yourself into believing what they spew? This requires you to think. You up for it?

You don’t see Malice in the Palace because the consequences are harsh. You have an example and the result to go off of. You think terrorist could hijack an airplane today with box cutters or the threat of “I have a bomb!”? No passengers would pummel them into a blood pulp. Because you have 9/11 as an example. That situation was unprecedented.

The sad part is fans like yourself will clown, mock, insult a player if they point out a fan for their behavior to an official. Thus the fan gets tossed.

Shooting at own rims? We literally watched Westbrook stat whore his rebounds for triple doubles. There’s a whole montage of it.

The game is way more professional man. Oh yea.

[Neal Romer]

Guys back then didn't sit out for "rest". They didn't sign huge deals and then immediately demand a trade before their new deal even starts.

Funny how the game was so much more popular in the "unprofessional" era.


I dont like load managing or trade demands either but theyre separate issues. If anything they reflect how protective guys are about their careers now. It is a problem but it doesnt reflect the same lack of respect for one's own career as choking a coach over criticism or refusing to practice or getting arrested over and over. IMO.


during a Warriors practice in Oakland. When Carlesimo yelled at him to make crisper passes (specifically asking him to "put a little mustard" on a pass), Sprewell responded that he was not in the mood for criticism and told the coach to keep his distance.

^ Just LOL.

[Neal Romer]

Oh and I havent even mentioned the incident between Washington's own Dilbert Arenas and Javaris Crittenden.


It was the buffoon era. Straight up. Teams had no standards for behavior bc they were all greedy to find the "next MJ" who could sell hood swag by the billions.

[tpols]

I dont like load managing or trade demands either but theyre separate issues. If anything they reflect how protective guys are about their careers now. It is a problem but it doesnt reflect the same lack of respect for one's own career as choking a coach over criticism or refusing to practice or getting arrested over and over. IMO.



^ Just LOL.

:roll:

If he would've put the same energy into his passes as he did into choking his coach they would've been mighty crisp.

[tontoz]

I dont like load managing or trade demands either but theyre separate issues. If anything they reflect how protective guys are about their careers now. It is a problem but it doesnt reflect the same lack of respect for one's own career as choking a coach over criticism or refusing to practice or getting arrested over and over. IMO.



^ Just LOL.


They put rules in place to discourage violence. It isn't that the players suddenly became more "professional", they just don't want to get fined/suspended.

[Neal Romer]

:roll:

If he would've put the same energy into his passes as he did into choking his coach they would've been mighty crisp.



When Carlesimo approached, Sprewell threatened to kill him and dragged him backward by his throat, choking him for 7 to 10 seconds before his teammates and assistant coaches pulled him off Carlesimo. Sprewell returned about 20 minutes later after showering and changing and again accosted Carlesimo. He landed a glancing blow at Carlesimo's right cheek before being dragged away again by the assistant coaches. This was not Sprewell's first violent incident with the Warriors; in 1995, he fought with teammate Jerome Kersey, returned to practice carrying a two-by-four


:roll:




https://dygtyjqp7pi0m.cloudfront.net/i/29180/25807264_1.jpg?v=8D3EDC3BBD7F570

[GOBB]

They put rules in place to discourage violence. It isn't that the players suddenly became more "professional", they just don't want to get fined/suspended.

Someone with common sense. It was scary hours for a moment reading these two idiots posts.

[Neal Romer]

They put rules in place to discourage violence. It isn't that the players suddenly became more "professional", they just don't want to get fined/suspended.

The international influx has had a huge effect on the overall level of professionalism and has displaced a lot of the less professional players. You think Wembanyama bout to roll in with a gun and start choking people?

Teams are also at least slightly more disciplined with how they draft. A guy like Cam Whitmore goes top 5 in the late 90s/early 00s, now he slides to 17. You also saw it in football with Colonel Sanders. Teams are finally wising up to the fact that losing attitudes tend to inhibit success.

[tontoz]

https://youtu.be/fZ5_Rmkgn9s?si=XdJAS-k9fWmwcnZk

[Neal Romer]

Someone with common sense. It was scary hours for a moment reading these two idiots posts.


GOBB :lol


I cant even say anything but that. I have a soft spot for your simple ways.

[tpols]

Latrell Spreewell perfectly embodies those old Chappelle skits "when keeping it real goes wrong".

[Neal Romer]

https://youtu.be/fZ5_Rmkgn9s?si=XdJAS-k9fWmwcnZk


Teammate fights have always been a thing. Attacking a coach is something Ive only ever heard of in the hood era.

Youre the king of strawmans.

[tpols]

https://youtu.be/fZ5_Rmkgn9s?si=XdJAS-k9fWmwcnZk

Dray is the only loose cannon goon left really though. And even he's fugazi. Some of those guys back then were straight up crazy. And off the hook on drugs. NBA used to have a big coke problem. Even MJ was technically a functioning drug addict given his drinking habits. Guys like Shawn Kemp and Mad Max blew the door off the hinges though. :lol Along with many others. You dont hear about superstar talents dieing from coke binges nowadays. All guys do now is smoke bud, but everything is definitely more straight laced and professional.

[tontoz]

Dray is the only loose cannon goon left really though. And even he's fugazi. Some of those guys back then were straight up crazy. And off the hook on drugs. NBA used to have a big coke problem. Even MJ was technically a functioning drug addict given his drinking habits. Guys like Shawn Kemp and Mad Max blew the door off the hinges though. :lol Along with many others. You dont hear about superstar talents dieing from coke binges nowadays. All guys do now is smoke bud, but everything is definitely more straight laced and professional.



Guys were getting busted for "smoking bud" back in the day. Making it legal doesn't make guys more professional.

Guys sitting out with a hangnail instead of playing doesn't strike me as being more professional.

[Neal Romer]

Guys were getting busted for "smoking bud" back in the day. Making it legal doesn't make guys more professional.

Guys sitting out with a hangnail instead of playing doesn't strike me as being more professional.

Youre right, I concede, people just arent serious now the way JR Smith and Lance Stephenson and Andray Blatch were back in the day.

In fact Id like to emphasize the point further, but first I'll need some help:

Does anyone have the gif of Melo lying on the floor while everyone plays around him?

[tpols]

Guys were getting busted for "smoking bud" back in the day. Making it legal doesn't make guys more professional.

Guys sitting out with a hangnail instead of playing doesn't strike me as being more professional.

Nah dude... there was a much bigger hard drug culture problem back in the 80s and 90s that doesn't exist today in the NBA.

Superstar talents were dying of overdose. Huge fixation on cocaine and drinking and it transcended basketball. On top of the Rodman and Kemp types in the NBA you had the Michael Irvin types throwing big cocaine and hooker yacht parties. Iverson was known to be so reckless with his money at strip clubs they had to partition a sum away that he couldnt touch til he was like 50 or he would've gone broke.

It's ok to admit it. Players today are cleaner and more boring and as a result more professional. Jayson Tatum and SGA and Haliburton and Brunson and Curry etc. aren't hosting cocaine and prostitute fiestas on the lake. The players and league is much more tame now.

[Neal Romer]

Dray is the only loose cannon goon left really though. And even he's fugazi. Some of those guys back then were straight up crazy. And off the hook on drugs. NBA used to have a big coke problem. Even MJ was technically a functioning drug addict given his drinking habits. Guys like Shawn Kemp and Mad Max blew the door off the hinges though. :lol Along with many others. You dont hear about superstar talents dieing from coke binges nowadays. All guys do now is smoke bud, but everything is definitely more straight laced and professional.

Yeah the last guys I can remember to catch a season ban for it were Birdman, Tyreke, and OJ Yayo.

[GOBB]

https://youtu.be/fZ5_Rmkgn9s?si=XdJAS-k9fWmwcnZk

So professional.

[GOBB]

Basketball star Kevin Durant has said the NBA commissioner could smell cannabis on him as he lobbied to end the league's ban on the drug.
"He smelled it when I walked in, so I didn't really have to say much, you know what I'm saying?" Durant said in an interview.
The 34-year-old added that the drug is so commonly used in the league "it's like wine at this point".
NBA players are no longer prohibited from using cannabis


Professionals. Let the Trailblazers (waiting for their extensive jail records still) smoke? Unprofessional.


Must be nice having the commish smell the marijuana on you.

[tontoz]

Nah dude... there was a much bigger hard drug culture problem back in the 80s and 90s that doesn't exist today in the NBA.

Superstar talents were dying of overdose. Huge fixation on cocaine and drinking and it transcended basketball. On top of the Rodman and Kemp types in the NBA you had the Michael Irvin types throwing big cocaine and hooker yacht parties. Iverson was known to be so reckless with his money at strip clubs they had to partition a sum away that he couldnt touch til he was like 50 or he would've gone broke.

It's ok to admit it. Players today are cleaner and more boring and as a result more professional. Jayson Tatum and SGA and Haliburton and Brunson and Curry etc. aren't hosting cocaine and prostitute fiestas on the lake. The players and league is much more tame now.


Is that a case of players getting more professional or the presence of social media exposing people? There was no social media back then. It was a lot easier to get away with stuff without having the world find out about it.

[Neal Romer]

Basketball star Kevin Durant has said the NBA commissioner could smell cannabis on him as he lobbied to end the league's ban on the drug.
"He smelled it when I walked in, so I didn't really have to say much, you know what I'm saying?" Durant said in an interview.
The 34-year-old added that the drug is so commonly used in the league "it's like wine at this point".
NBA players are no longer prohibited from using cannabis


Professionals. Let the Trailblazers (waiting for their extensive jail records still) smoke? Unprofessional.

Must be nice having the commish smell the marijuana on you.


It's not that every example is so egregious, just that the totality of incidents clearly surpassed what you see today.

Guys like Stephon Marbury, and his Knicks tenure... it was always something. Eddy Curry.

The percentage of players serious about their careers in today's league is simply higher. Anyone who is honestly disputing that point, I'm sorry but... youre not thinking objectively. Something emotional is influencing your perspective.

[tpols]

I mean players just don't do hard drugs anymore man. They don't do street drugs. Just weed from an accredited medical dispensary. There's more money in the game too, everybody has financial advisors, trainers for everything under the sun, top personal chefs and better daily habit regiments. Its not a crackhead league anymore. :lol

That was GOBBs era. Philly was a filthy nightmare of a place. Still is in places like Kensington.

[Neal Romer]

It's not a coincidence scoring was at an all time low and Iverson and Marbury were leading us to our only bronze medals in Olympic history. You dont think the "redeem team" in 08 got its name for a reason? You guys know what the word "redeem" means?

The game was at a low point in the early 00s, during Iverson's tenure. Again, to deny that is just being emotional.

[Xiao Yao You]

Guess AI and Rudy have something in common.

Gobert hasnt had a championship team around him let alone playing in the lEast. Iverson had the best d in the league around him. Just not a smart 2 way player

[tontoz]

It's not a coincidence scoring was at an all time low and Iverson and Marbury were leading us to our only bronze medals in Olympic history. You dont think the "redeem team" in 08 got its name for a reason? You guys know what the word "redeem" means?

The game was at a low point in the early 00s, during Iverson's tenure. Again, to deny that is just being emotional.


Wasnt Lebron on that team? :lol

[Neal Romer]

Wasnt Lebron on that team? :lol

HE WAS A TEENAGER!!!!!!!!! :rant


But seriously, the one team I can think of today with a collection of wannabe thugs is the Hornets. LaMelo is a goofball who talks like a mumble rapper, Brandon Miller is currently testifying in a trial about the gun he fetched for his homeboy that was used to kill someone, and Miles "break my baby mama's face" Bridges.

And hence, the Hornets lose every year and are a garbage joke franchise.

Executives who still think you ever win with these type of players are as dumb as the players themselves are.

A lot of people in professional sports are finally catching on to this obvious fact, altho clearly not every team.

[GOBB]

Gobert hasnt had a championship team around him let alone playing in the lEast. Iverson had the best d in the league around him. Just not a smart 2 way player

Best defense in the league around him when?
He had a championship team around him, when?

[Xiao Yao You]

Best defense in the league around him when?
He had a championship team around him, when?

Only 5th in drtg. I guess. He never had a championship team around him because you cant build one around an inefficient one way gunner

[red1]

obviously


if he has a good team



dude had a motor like westbrook with actual scoring skills to back up the energy

[GOBB]

Only 5th in drtg. I guess. He never had a championship team around him because you cant build one around an inefficient one way gunner

You guess? Or you are struggling to say he didn’t? Has Rudy ever been apart of the best defensive team in the NBA before? I mean after all he’s had how many DPOY awards? Certainly he has been apart of one no? Kinda confused where you tried to go with this in relation to AI and having the best def in the lg around him.


Guess back to moving goal posts for you huh? Now AI isn’t a player you can build a title team around. Guess you ran out of nonsense so you’ll use this wild card huh? You can’t build a title team around Rudy gobert. He’s offensively challenged. And while the Wolves can be considered a title team. Rudy isn’t the focal point at all. Where was he in the 4th quarter? (Sarcasm)


So like I said ai and Rudy have a lot in common.


Did you forget about that 20-21 season with Rudy? Talk to me where they were offensively and defensively as a team? Talk about what Rudy didn’t have that year. Ha ha ha ha

[Xiao Yao You]

You guess? Or you are struggling to say he didn’t? Has Rudy ever been apart of the best defensive team in the NBA before? I mean after all he’s had how many DPOY awards? Certainly he has been apart of one no? Kinda confused where you tried to go with this in relation to AI and having the best def in the lg around him.


Guess back to moving goal posts for you huh? Now AI isn’t a player you can build a title team around. Guess you ran out of nonsense so you’ll use this wild card huh? You can’t build a title team around Rudy gobert. He’s offensively challenged. And while the Wolves can be considered a title team. Rudy isn’t the focal point at all. Where was he in the 4th quarter? (Sarcasm)


So like I said ai and Rudy have a lot in common.


Did you forget about that 20-21 season with Rudy? Talk to me where they were offensively and defensively as a team? Talk about what Rudy didn’t have that year. Ha ha ha ha

Gobert led a historicallu great d last year so yes he finally had a #1 d. Thought philly had the best d. Playing the weak schedule in the lEast with mutumbo they probably should have. Im confused why gobert is always brought up. Im not the one that did as usual! :roll:

What goalposts were moved? I never though ai was a guy you could build a championship team around. If he had been willing to be a 6th man like westbrook maybe he could have been part of one

Offensively challenged gobert was part of the #1 offense in the league. A lot of ways to contribute offensively. I dont expect you to get that. Saw it last night before he was benched and they got throttled without him.

20-21 when gobert played without a 4 or without much defensive help? I can see gobert being a huge part of a championship team. Iverson i cant other than as a 6th man which he refused to be

[GOBB]

Gobert led a historicallu great d last year so yes he finally had a #1 d. Thought philly had the best d. Playing the weak schedule in the lEast with mutumbo they probably should have. Im confused why gobert is always brought up. Im not the one that did as usual! :roll:

What goalposts were moved? I never though ai was a guy you could build a championship team around. If he had been willing to be a 6th man like westbrook maybe he could have been part of one

Offensively challenged gobert was part of the #1 offense in the league. A lot of ways to contribute offensively. I dont expect you to get that. Saw it last night before he was benched and they got throttled without him.

20-21 when gobert played without a 4 or without much defensive help? I can see gobert being a huge part of a championship team. Iverson i cant other than as a 6th man which he refused to be

You said all that to say what? Lol

You can’t build a championship team around gobert no more than you can ai. Like I said they have more in common than you think. I know it’s difficult for you to accept tho. Shame

[gengiskhan]

Hes basically rich man's ja morant that doesn't get injured. He would smash this league. If you think SGA is slippery and quick, this guy would be like a hot knife through butter today slicing defenses up and he played with big cajones. Not the brightest bulb or best team player, but it wouldn't matter with the lanes slashers have today.

AI was 6'0" version of 6'6" Kobe

always shot jocking, ball hogging at low FG% with poor shot selection.

just shot shot shot to the 1 NBA finals and lost.

This would've been Kobe's legacy at best had he been a HORNET instead of Shaq's little beach in LAL.

[tpols]

AI was 6'0" version of 6'6" Kobe

always shot jocking, ball hogging at low FG% with poor shot selection.

just shot shot shot to the 1 NBA finals and lost.

This would've been Kobe's legacy at best had he been a HORNET instead of Shaq's little beach in LAL.


Your spirit is that of a small gremlin... little demon spawned from the depths of Helheim.

You can carry your pitch fork and scream out your little lungs as mighty as you please but the Great Spirit of the one they call KOBE will still live on in triumph regardless in the fields of Elysium.

[ralph_i_el]

I think that he would benefit from the space and pace. He was a great off-ball mover. I think he would need an All-NBA big to contend.

[gengiskhan]

I think that he would benefit from the space and pace. He was a great off-ball mover. I think he would need an All-NBA big to contend.

2001 AI had to go thru 2001 Shaq. reason he lost.

Or else, 2001 AI was absolutely destroying Kobe like he was a mamba sauce.

[Xiao Yao You]

2001 AI had to go thru 2001 Shaq. reason he lost.

Or else, 2001 AI was absolutely destroying Kobe like he was a mamba sauce.

Lakers wouldnt have been in finals without shaq though

[gengiskhan]

Lakers wouldnt have been in finals without shaq though

well said, without Shaq, LAL were trash and that included kobe.

[Full Court]

That 2001 AI run. He literally stole the Season MVP from 2001 Shaq. the latter was fully deserving of back-2-back season MVP.

4 x scoring champ

3 x steals champ

He stormed into 2001 NBA Finals from very weak East Conf. lost the finals 1-4. To Shaq, Kobe and the legendary LAL line up.

His regular season career scoring average of 26.7 points per game ranks seventh all-time.
His playoff career scoring average of 29.7 points per game trails only Michael Jordan and Luka Dončić.

was AI ahead of his time. should he have played today.

I say he could win NBA title all by himself in grueling 7 games series in today's soft defensive rules. AI has that motor ant man wishes.

AI is the better version of Westbook imo.

Defense was mostly non-existent during the regular season. Scoring stats are very much inflated right now. But to be fair, the refs have been letting them play some pretty intense defense this post-season. It's good to see, and scoring has definitely not been a cake walk this playoffs.