View Full Version : LeBron James is the only player selected for 2024-25 All-NBA with negative Plus-Minus
Drygon
05-25-2025, 04:20 PM
The Plus-Minus rating for all players comes from StatMuse. I double checked and its accurate.
https://www.statmuse.com/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrySE3yXkAAAife?format=jpg&name=900x900
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All-NBA 1st Team
SGA: +918
Jokic: +594
Tatum: +534
Mitchell: +522
Giannis: +334
All-NBA 2nd Team
Mobley: +546
Curry: +299
Ant: +291
Brunson: +146
LeBron: -54
All-NBA 3rd Team
J-Dub: +456
KAT: +378
Harden: +344
Haliburton: +222
Cade: +175
highwhey
05-25-2025, 04:33 PM
OP:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fub09aKWAAAwYi3.jpg
Drygon
05-26-2025, 10:09 AM
Everyone wants to hand wave this away or blame +-
But it’s absolutely not just the lakers being bad. Luka, AD, Reaves all had their best +- numbers when Lebron was not on the court. And lebron is negative without them.
In games any two of these guys both played:
https://i.ibb.co/7JsRgZ3V/Sk-rmbild-2025-05-26-160240.png
Don’t know how you can look at this and not think something is going on. Even if you want to blame (Lebron by himself) on bad bench guys, how come every star also thrives when he’s off the court
Luka was +20(!) in non lebron minutes!
There’s some evidence Lebron was the biggest fake stats guy in the league last year
StrongLurk
05-26-2025, 11:03 AM
No one cares
Walk on Water
05-26-2025, 01:50 PM
Exposed
3ba11
05-26-2025, 06:10 PM
wowsers
it's all confirmed... everything... bron-ball skillset = bad chemistry = inferior player to Kobe, Duncan, Curry, Bird, and others.
Full Court
05-26-2025, 11:24 PM
Anyone with a reasonably functioning brain knows that LeNetNegative was gifted the All-NBA spot. Just like he was gifted Olympic MVP. Biggest fraud in the history of the sport, but you have to admire his propaganda machine.
3ba11
05-28-2025, 01:53 PM
He's 200 points behind the next guy and the only negative player... aka clear-cut fraud
Akhenaten
05-28-2025, 04:37 PM
Everyone wants to hand wave this away or blame +-
But it’s absolutely not just the lakers being bad. Luka, AD, Reaves all had their best +- numbers when Lebron was not on the court. And lebron is negative without them.
In games any two of these guys both played:
https://i.ibb.co/7JsRgZ3V/Sk-rmbild-2025-05-26-160240.png
Don’t know how you can look at this and not think something is going on. Even if you want to blame (Lebron by himself) on bad bench guys, how come every star also thrives when he’s off the court
Luka was +20(!) in non lebron minutes!
There’s some evidence Lebron was the biggest fake stats guy in the league last year
The Luka disparity is crazy
90sgoat
05-28-2025, 08:20 PM
Lebron should not have been on the All NBA teams.
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