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Drygon
05-25-2025, 04:20 PM
The Plus-Minus rating for all players comes from StatMuse. I double checked and its accurate.

https://www.statmuse.com/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrySE3yXkAAAife?format=jpg&name=900x900

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All-NBA 1st Team

SGA: +918

Jokic: +594

Tatum: +534

Mitchell: +522

Giannis: +334

All-NBA 2nd Team

Mobley: +546

Curry: +299

Ant: +291

Brunson: +146

LeBron: -54


All-NBA 3rd Team

J-Dub: +456

KAT: +378

Harden: +344

Haliburton: +222

Cade: +175

highwhey
05-25-2025, 04:33 PM
OP:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fub09aKWAAAwYi3.jpg

Drygon
05-26-2025, 10:09 AM
Everyone wants to hand wave this away or blame +-

But it’s absolutely not just the lakers being bad. Luka, AD, Reaves all had their best +- numbers when Lebron was not on the court. And lebron is negative without them.

In games any two of these guys both played:

https://i.ibb.co/7JsRgZ3V/Sk-rmbild-2025-05-26-160240.png

Don’t know how you can look at this and not think something is going on. Even if you want to blame (Lebron by himself) on bad bench guys, how come every star also thrives when he’s off the court

Luka was +20(!) in non lebron minutes!

There’s some evidence Lebron was the biggest fake stats guy in the league last year

StrongLurk
05-26-2025, 11:03 AM
No one cares

Walk on Water
05-26-2025, 01:50 PM
Exposed

3ba11
05-26-2025, 06:10 PM
wowsers

it's all confirmed... everything... bron-ball skillset = bad chemistry = inferior player to Kobe, Duncan, Curry, Bird, and others.

Full Court
05-26-2025, 11:24 PM
Anyone with a reasonably functioning brain knows that LeNetNegative was gifted the All-NBA spot. Just like he was gifted Olympic MVP. Biggest fraud in the history of the sport, but you have to admire his propaganda machine.

3ba11
05-28-2025, 01:53 PM
He's 200 points behind the next guy and the only negative player... aka clear-cut fraud

Akhenaten
05-28-2025, 04:37 PM
Everyone wants to hand wave this away or blame +-

But it’s absolutely not just the lakers being bad. Luka, AD, Reaves all had their best +- numbers when Lebron was not on the court. And lebron is negative without them.

In games any two of these guys both played:

https://i.ibb.co/7JsRgZ3V/Sk-rmbild-2025-05-26-160240.png

Don’t know how you can look at this and not think something is going on. Even if you want to blame (Lebron by himself) on bad bench guys, how come every star also thrives when he’s off the court

Luka was +20(!) in non lebron minutes!

There’s some evidence Lebron was the biggest fake stats guy in the league last year

The Luka disparity is crazy

90sgoat
05-28-2025, 08:20 PM
Lebron should not have been on the All NBA teams.