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RRR3
05-29-2025, 09:30 AM
:roll::roll::roll:

Lakers somehow let this guy look like a good offensive player :yaohappy:

tontoz
05-29-2025, 09:35 AM
But those screens are top notch :bowdown:

RRR3
05-29-2025, 09:36 AM
But those screens are top notch :bowdown:
:bowdown:

Wally450
05-29-2025, 09:45 AM
Copy and pasted from Reddit:

Gobert played under 30 minutes in 13/15 playoff games this season.

He had double digit rebounds in 4/15 playoff games. double digit points in 3/15 playoff games.

The Wolves cannot make the leap while paying that much money to a playoff liability.

RRR3
05-29-2025, 09:46 AM
Copy and pasted from Reddit:

Gobert played under 30 minutes in 13/15 playoff games this season.

He had double digit rebounds in 4/15 playoff games. double digit points in 3/15 playoff games.

The Wolves cannot make the leap while paying that much money to a playoff liability.
It's still so funny this guy looked like Wilt against the Lakers :roll: Truly embarrassing. Great defender obviously, but on offense he's pretty damn bad.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 09:55 AM
Cant quit me

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 10:05 AM
He led wolves in ortg and dfrtg. 2nd in per. 1st in ftr. 1st in all reb % and sll ws ows and dws snd per 48. 5th in obpm. 3rd in dbpm. 2nd in total bpm. 2nd in vorp. 1st ftr+. It takes a trill to think that their 33 year old center was the wolves problem :facepalm

Manny98
05-29-2025, 10:56 AM
Mitchell's fault!

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 10:59 AM
Mitchell's fault!
Cant quit me!

Poor manny

tpols
05-29-2025, 11:00 AM
Mitchell's fault!

Eh... not the time to be name dropping mitchell how he flamed out the playoffs even earlier. Got his little chain snatched by Steve urkel.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg

warriorfan
05-29-2025, 11:01 AM
Mitchell's fault!

:roll:

RRR3
05-29-2025, 11:04 AM
Eh... not the time to be name dropping mitchell how he flamed out the playoffs even earlier. Got his little chain snatched by Steve urkel.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg
Mitchell averaged roughly 34/6/4 in that series and he was playing injured. Plus all his best teammates were hurt as well. How is that his fault? Context bro context.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 11:09 AM
Eh... not the time to be name dropping mitchell how he flamed out the playoffs even earlier. Got his little chain snatched by Steve urkel.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg

Mr. Empty stats

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 11:10 AM
Cant quit me

hold this L
05-29-2025, 11:59 AM
He led wolves in ortg and dfrtg. 2nd in per. 1st in ftr. 1st in all reb % and sll ws ows and dws snd per 48. 5th in obpm. 3rd in dbpm. 2nd in total bpm. 2nd in vorp. 1st ftr+. It takes a trill to think that their 33 year old center was the wolves problem :facepalm
Since he led in oRTG and dRTG, he must have led the team in minutes due to how valuable he is, right?

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Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 12:03 PM
Since he led in oRTG and dRTG, he must have led the team in minutes due to how valuable he is, right?

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Only 4th. Need a new coach onviously

Kblaze8855
05-29-2025, 01:40 PM
Cost me my parlay twice too. Draftkings had his rebounds discounted last night to 5.5 for me to go 5 of 5and he didn’t even get that.

Kblaze8855
05-29-2025, 01:49 PM
Eh... not the time to be name dropping mitchell how he flamed out the playoffs even earlier. Got his little chain snatched by Steve urkel.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Steve_Urkel.jpg


It’s amazing you can lose by 1 dropping 48/9 with your second, third, and fourth leading scorer all out…one of them also being the DPOY…and still get called out. Whole supporting cast out or playing hurt most of the series and the only story for the whole season is that you lost.


The crazy rate of injuries lately has me so tuned out.

Even when the better team wins the whole exercise feels like a waste.

Play a whole year to come down to who came down on a foot.

RRR3
05-29-2025, 01:54 PM
Cost me my parlay twice too. Draftkings had his rebounds discounted last night to 5.5 for me to go 5 of 5and he didn’t even get that.
Why would you ever bet money on Rudy in the playoffs?

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 01:54 PM
Empty stats and no effort to defend and tou get called out. He has a history. Until he proves hes not that guy he is

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 01:55 PM
Cant quit me

Meticode
05-29-2025, 02:16 PM
Rudy Gobert, oh how he tried,
In the playoffs, his game went Xiao-ward, wide.
Against the Thunder, he stumbled and fell,
His defense, once stout, just didn’t gel.

Blocks were scarce, his moves were slow,
Fans in the stands groaned, “Oh no, not now!”
The rim he guarded, but shots flew by,
His playoff dreams sank with a weary sigh.

Rebounds slipped from his hands, oh wow,
Thunder’s pace left him lost, somehow.
Gobert’s tower, once mighty and proud,
Crumbled in OKC’s lightning-loud crowd.

Kblaze8855
05-29-2025, 03:15 PM
I don’t think anyone is likely to win with an injured 2-3-4 scorer so that isn’t worth evaluating. If empty stats just means playing well while losing virtually everyone who plays well is empty stats almost every season. It’s just a nothing argument.


But it’s all know little fans have left.

Same shit every year. Gianni’s, Steph, or whoever.

Teammates out for key games or hobbled and fans who have nothing of weight to add act like the injuries didn’t make a difference.

Like 5 teams a year have their seasons utterly wasted because of freak incidents and chronic conditions and it’s just made the playoffs such a bore. Games can still be good but when the Celtics, Cavs, Bucks, Warriors and Memphis all lose players who make them entirely different teams in key games I just can’t pretend the outcome is that indicative of the teams ability.

I watch it because I watch basketball but…I have no idea who the best teams are in the end. Just the most fortunate among those who have an argument. Last year like 5 hall of famers watched their teams get eliminated from the bench and it just ruins the whole idea of using the outcome to settle anything.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 03:20 PM
Injuries have always played a role. Guys not playing d has as well

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 03:26 PM
1st game garland was out. Game 2 garland and mobley. Both at home. Great depth. Supposedly great team. 2 losses. 4 strength game 3-5. They went 1 and 2. Blame it all on injuries if it helps you sleep better. Just another huge failure for mitchell who blamed injuries in utah as well not the fact that he didnt play d or play well with others

Kblaze8855
05-29-2025, 03:35 PM
Sleep better? I’m not the one with a clear obsession with a guy who is arguably the most mocked and laughed at athlete in the league.

I don’t particularly care who wins if the Bulls don’t. But I don’t want to watch broken teams in the playoffs and hear coverage that has to pretend it didn’t happen to play up the legitimacy of the outcome and importance of the remaining games.

The shit is just annoying. And it’s more prevalent than ever. Like 10 series the last couple years with teams decimated by injury. Just an utter waste of time.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 03:41 PM
Sleep better? I’m not the one with a clear obsession with a guy who is arguably the most mocked and laughed at athlete in the league.

I don’t particularly care who wins if the Bulls don’t. But I don’t want to watch broken teams in the playoffs and hear coverage that has to pretend it didn’t happen to play up the legitimacy of the outcome and importance of the remaining games.

The shit is just annoying. And it’s more prevalent than ever. Like 10 series the last couple years with teams decimated by injury. Just an utter waste of time.
Liking a player is an obsession? Im not the one that make threads about him.

There have always been injuries. Guys used to play through them. I thought stockton was done abouy half way through his career when he sucked in the playoffs. After he retired found out he couldnt lift his arm above his shoulder.

Cavs went 1-2 at full strength. Indiana was the better team. Ubtil mitchell buys in at both ends he will just be eye candy for you guys that love big numbers

SouBeachTalents
05-29-2025, 03:47 PM
Liking a player is an obsession? Im not the one that make threads about him.

There have always been injuries. Guys used to play through them. I thought stockton was done abouy half way through his career when he sucked in the playoffs. After he retired found out he couldnt lift his arm above his shoulder.

Cavs went 1-2 at full strength. Indiana was the better team. Ubtil mitchell buys in at both ends he will just be eye candy for you guys that love big numbers
You've made roughly 60 posts about him the last 18 hours. If that isn't obsession, what would you classify that as?

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 03:51 PM
You've made roughly 60 posts about him the last 18 hours. If that isn't obsession, what would you classify that as?

A discussion? Thats what some us are here for. Others are here just to troll. Where do you fall?

ImKobe
05-29-2025, 04:06 PM
Of course he has the game of his life against the Lakers and then proceeds to shit the bed the rest of the Playoffs. Wolves fans and FO have to be mad as hell that they got Rudy when they could've had someone like Hartenstein or Claxton for a fraction of the price and without giving up all their picks.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:13 PM
Of course he has the game of his life against the Lakers and then proceeds to shit the bed the rest of the Playoffs. Wolves fans and FO have to be mad as hell that they got Rudy when they could've had someone like Hartenstein or Claxton for a fraction of the price and without giving up all their picks.

The wolves just had the best two year run in their sad history. Front office so mad they extended his contract.:roll:

Manny98
05-29-2025, 04:25 PM
Poor Xiao hasn't slept a wink the past 24 hours defending his man's pathetic performance on the internet :roll:

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:28 PM
Im sleeping fine. Gobert did his what hes paid to do. Cant say the same about others in that organization

ImKobe
05-29-2025, 04:29 PM
The wolves just had the best two year run in their sad history. Front office so mad they extended his contract.:roll:

What I'm saying is they could've had more success and been set up better for the future with a different trade. They're good enough to make the WCF with the right Playoff bracket but not good enough to contend for a championship with this roster.

Manny98
05-29-2025, 04:30 PM
They're are guys not in the league the would have given you better production than Gobert did this series :roll:

5ppg and 6rpg are you ****ing kidding me :roll::roll:

Manny98
05-29-2025, 04:31 PM
Im sleeping fine. Gobert did his what hes paid to do. Cant say the same about others in that organization
Your post history says otherwise.

Overdrive
05-29-2025, 04:34 PM
Bad day for the trolls. Rudy was his team's best player in ortg and drtg.

I'm sure his team scored alot of points and allowed little since he's a huge impact player. I'll have a look at the last game to check out how it turned out.

RRR3
05-29-2025, 04:34 PM
They're are guys not in the league the would have given you better production than Gobert did this series :roll:

5ppg and 6rpg are you ****ing kidding me :roll::roll:
Inefficient af too, literally prime Joel Anthony numbers :oldlol:

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:35 PM
What I'm saying is they could've had more success and been set up better for the future with a different trade. They're good enough to make the WCF with the right Playoff bracket but not good enough to contend for a championship with this roster.

Claxton and hartenstein havent carried bad teams, won dpoty, made all nba. They went for the big prize. Had the best two years in the franchise history. Have some young talent still. Need a new coach. Let randle go if he opts out. Trade him if he doesnt. If naz and nickeil get starter money let them go. They want durant so that could dictate everything else

RRR3
05-29-2025, 04:35 PM
Bad day for the trolls. Rudy was his team's best player in ortg and drtg.

I'm sure his team scored alot of points and allowed little since he's a huge impact player. I'll have a look at the last game to check out how it turned out.
Poor xiao has no idea how those stats work but he thinks they must prove Doody didn't have a terrible series anyways :roll:

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:36 PM
They're are guys not in the league the would have given you better production than Gobert did this series :roll:

5ppg and 6rpg are you ****ing kidding me :roll::roll:

Wheres hassan and greg monroe when you need them! :roll:

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:37 PM
Bad day for the trolls. Rudy was his team's best player in ortg and drtg.

I'm sure his team scored alot of points and allowed little since he's a huge impact player. I'll have a look at the last game to check out how it turned out.

You could do that or just make your critiques from a box score like the trolls prefer

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:38 PM
Cant quit me

ArbitraryWater
05-29-2025, 04:40 PM
Pay that man more money

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 04:42 PM
Pay that man more money

Gave money back and took a pay cut. Got two more years. A mad front office :lol

ImKobe
05-29-2025, 09:36 PM
Claxton and hartenstein havent carried bad teams, won dpoty, made all nba. They went for the big prize. Had the best two years in the franchise history. Have some young talent still. Need a new coach. Let randle go if he opts out. Trade him if he doesnt. If naz and nickeil get starter money let them go. They want durant so that could dictate everything else

You can't pay someone who shows up once per series on offense (and showing up is a very low standard for toody, im talking 10+ points here) 40+ million a year with the new cap rules, it's going to be tough to contend unless you got a bunch of young players on rookie deals like OKC.

Rudy carried teams in his prime yeah but he's in his 30s now and getting worse offensively. It's not gonna work with this Wolves roster IMO just not enough offense around Ant and Randle.

warriorfan
05-29-2025, 09:53 PM
You can't pay someone who shows up once per series on offense (and showing up is a very low standard for toody, im talking 10+ points here) 40+ million a year with the new cap rules, it's going to be tough to contend unless you got a bunch of young players on rookie deals like OKC.

Rudy carried teams in his prime yeah but he's in his 30s now and getting worse offensively. It's not gonna work with this Wolves roster IMO just not enough offense around Ant and Randle.

Good post. Can’t allocate that much cap to a guy like that. It’s just simple.

If he’s making well under 20 we will think about it.

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 11:18 PM
You can't pay someone who shows up once per series on offense (and showing up is a very low standard for toody, im talking 10+ points here) 40+ million a year with the new cap rules, it's going to be tough to contend unless you got a bunch of young players on rookie deals like OKC.

Rudy carried teams in his prime yeah but he's in his 30s now and getting worse offensively. It's not gonna work with this Wolves roster IMO just not enough offense around Ant and Randle.

He will be making 35 mill. How much offense randle bring against okc? Gobert led them in ortg, ftr, offensive rebounding etc. More to offense than scoring. They will have more young guys playing next year

Xiao Yao You
05-29-2025, 11:19 PM
Good post. Can’t allocate that much cap to a guy like that. It’s just simple.

If he’s making well under 20 we will think about it.

Cant skip me!

ImKobe
05-30-2025, 07:29 PM
He will be making 35 mill. How much offense randle bring against okc? Gobert led them in ortg, ftr, offensive rebounding etc. More to offense than scoring. They will have more young guys playing next year

He had two bad games sure but that's typical for a player like Randle, he at least shows up for most of the POs offensively. Even with the two no-shows he averaged 17.4 on 62.8%TS.

It's easy to say Toody led them in ORTG or whatever in this series when they benched him while already losing with him on the court, he played just 26 mpg for a reason. If he was as good as you're saying he wouldn't get benched in close Playoff games.

Toody's just not THAT valuable in a 3PT chucking era. You could say the same about a player like Draymond but Draymond is far more versatile than Gobert on both ends.

GOBB
05-30-2025, 08:18 PM
Screen assists screen assists!

Xiao Yao You
05-30-2025, 09:03 PM
He had two bad games sure but that's typical for a player like Randle, he at least shows up for most of the POs offensively. Even with the two no-shows he averaged 17.4 on 62.8%TS.

It's easy to say Toody led them in ORTG or whatever in this series when they benched him while already losing with him on the court, he played just 26 mpg for a reason. If he was as good as you're saying he wouldn't get benched in close Playoff games.

Toody's just not THAT valuable in a 3PT chucking era. You could say the same about a player like Draymond but Draymond is far more versatile than Gobert on both ends.

If he wasnt valuable theyd be attacking the rim when he was in the game instead of just when hes on the bench. If you cant get an open look without him screening his valuable. If you are getting extra possession hes valuable. If hes getting fouled because they have to pay attention to him hes valuable.

Xiao Yao You
05-30-2025, 09:20 PM
Screen assists screen assists!


Putting the ball in the hole is fairly important

warriorfan
05-30-2025, 09:49 PM
Putting the ball in the hole is fairly important

That’s why rudy sucks dick at basketball

Xiao Yao You
05-30-2025, 10:16 PM
Cant skip me!

warriorfan
05-30-2025, 10:33 PM
Cant skip me!

The only thing skipping is your brain when it comes to rudy gobert