Adam Silver says next year’s All-Star Game will feature Team USA vs. Team World

[Baller234]

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1930289782808015136

[Phoenix]

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[SouBeachTalents]

They need to go the route of the NFL and just scrap this thing. The all-star game hasn't been relevant for over a decade now, just keep all-star selections as an honor players receive and have participants do skill based events.

[tpols]

Baseball used to have a system where winner of All Star Game gets HCA in the Finals. So teams were actually playing hard and trying to win. They need to add stakes to the game or the players simply won't compete. Didn't used to be like that 20+ years ago... they actually tried. Guys were more competitive back then though, today's players are filthy rich sissies for the most part.

[SouBeachTalents]

Baseball used to have a system where winner of All Star Game gets HCA in the Finals. So teams were actually playing hard and trying to win. They need to add stakes to the game or the players simply won't compete. Didn't used to be like that 20+ years ago... they actually tried. Guys were more competitive back then though, today's players are filthy rich sissies for the most part.
That's trash too, who receives homefield/court in the championship round should be determined by what you did over the course of the season, not on the basis of a single exhibition game.

[tpols]

I'd be fine with it. Baseball did great with that format being in their game. 2000s was GOAT era for that sport too.

[SouBeachTalents]

I feel like all-star games were created because back in the day, pre cable tv at least, because fans were either rarely or completely unable to watch all the top players in their sport. Just look at baseball, fans may have literally never seen anybody from the opposing league play outside of the all-star game.

In 2025, when we have access to every single game that takes place, it's just something that's no longer necessary. In theory, sure, it's cool to see all the top players complete against each other. But when we already see all the top players go against each other 2-4 times a year, the novelty of seeing them in the all-star game wears off, esp when the stakes are non-existent.

[Wardell Curry]

Baseball used to have a system where winner of All Star Game gets HCA in the Finals. So teams were actually playing hard and trying to win. They need to add stakes to the game or the players simply won't compete. Didn't used to be like that 20+ years ago... they actually tried. Guys were more competitive back then though, today's players are filthy rich sissies for the most part.

They're richer now and more spoiled.

But also why risk injury over a completely meaningless game when the only thing the ignorant fanbase judges them on is ring count?

[90sgoat]

Good, World will beat US easily and that might motivate american stars to try harder.

[Xiao Yao You]

I feel like all-star games were created because back in the day, pre cable tv at least, because fans were either rarely or completely unable to watch all the top players in their sport. Just look at baseball, fans may have literally never seen anybody from the opposing league play outside of the all-star game.

In 2025, when we have access to every single game that takes place, it's just something that's no longer necessary. In theory, sure, it's cool to see all the top players complete against each other. But when we already see all the top players go against each other 2-4 times a year, the novelty of seeing them in the all-star game wears off, esp when the stakes are non-existent.

There were only about 20 local games a year and a game on cbs on the weekend when i first started watching

[Lakers Legend#32]

Just kill off the All-Star Game for good.

[Meticode]

Just kill off the All-Star Game for good.

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[ImKobe]

Team World might be unbeatable. SGA Luka Giannis Wemby Jokic. Good luck.

[warriorfan]

All start game is bad, but so is a large percentage of the entire season.

[Gudo]

Yes, finally, a great idea so save the ASG!

[90sgoat]

Yes, finally, a great idea so save the ASG!

Everyone knew this was the only way to make people pay attention again, but Silver knows the US will get beat easily, so he hasn't wanted to do it.

This will be a huge event for basketball outside the US though. We can finally settle the question of if Europe could beat the US.

In the future they should do something like US vs Europe, Canada vs Africa, Asia vs Latin America etc.

[tpols]

Everyone knew this was the only way to make people pay attention again, but Silver knows the US will get beat easily, so he hasn't wanted to do it.

This will be a huge event for basketball outside the US though. We can finally settle the question of if Europe could beat the US.

In the future they should do something like US vs Europe, Canada vs Africa, Asia vs Latin America etc.

Serbia would've beat Team USA last summer if not for Curry going nuts. And thats one tiny country vs basically a whole continent.

Imagine Luka Jokic Giannis on one team. I want to see this.

[L.Kizzle]

Nah, that'll make the US product look even worse.

Jokic
Giannis
Siakam
Shai
Luka

Reserves
Wemby
Sabonis
Gobert
Lauri
OG
Wiggins
Wagner
Giddey

[Xiao Yao You]

Nah, that'll make the US product look even worse.

Jokic
Giannis
Siakam
Shai
Luka

Reserves
Wemby
Sabonis
Gobert
Lauri
OG
Wiggins
Wagner
Giddey

Trolls arent going to like that :roll:

[Nowoco]

It doesnt matter who plays or what format it is, its still going to be a 200-198 three point jacking up zero defense shitshow. Who ****ing cares?

[90sgoat]

Nah, that'll make the US product look even worse.

Jokic
Giannis
Siakam
Shai
Luka

Reserves
Wemby
Sabonis
Gobert
Lauri
OG
Wiggins
Wagner
Giddey

It's going to be an absolute bloodbath if both teams try to win and play somewhat hard.

I think this could be the best wakeup call for american players and fans. They might delude themselves that they're still better because they win the olympics, but that's one thing and getting whooped every year at All Stars would be too embarassing in the long run for US system to not make some changes.

[ShawkFactory]

Trolls arent going to like that :roll:

Because Gobert would perhaps be one of the deep reserves on the world team?

[SouBeachTalents]

Because Gobert would perhaps be one of the deep reserves on the world team?
I'm not even sure he's matching the 6 ppg/7 rebound standard he set in the conference finals.

[Baller234]

They would have to form teams by country. They can't just have a U.S. team play a world team because the players on the world team wouldn't even be playing for national pride. The team would only exist to smite and embarrass the U.S.

Who wants to see that?

[Meticode]

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[90sgoat]

They would have to form teams by country. They can't just have a U.S. team play a world team because the players on the world team wouldn't even be playing for national pride. The team would only exist to smite and embarrass the U.S.

Who wants to see that?

They could do Europe vs North America vs South America vs Africa.

That way US has a shot because they get the best american players from Canada.

[bison]

Too little too late. Plus team World would rape the US.

I defended all star weekend for the longest time but now I've accepted the concept of an 'all star game' is an anachronism

[ImKobe]

Trolls arent going to like that :roll:

Toody won't even make the team.

[Walk on Water]

Team World already lost to The OGs this all star game.

[Full Court]

I'm on board. The ASG as it is now is utter crap. Maybe this will make the players care enough to put in a little effort. If not, just kill the whole thing.

[Phoenix]

I don't understand why they think the Int'l players teaming up means anything. The pride comes in when you're representing your country. Jokic is going to have pride playing for Serbia, not lined up next to Luka, Giannis and Wemby. He's actually one of the worst offenders because the ASG clearly doesn't suit him so he basically bullshits his way through it. Plus, while the top of the league is foreign dominated, are there actually 12 'real' Int'l all-star level players? The majority are still American, so once you get past the obvious people, you're now going to have to pick guys who otherwise wouldn't make it in order to fill out the roster.

Problem with the whole thing is the fans know that the players don't give a single fukk about the ASG and see through this ruse of trying to manufacture some degree of pride/urgency. Just scrap the game and keep the events to skills contest( that needs some tweaks), 3 point shoot-out and allow the dunk contest to be opened up to non-NBA professionals. Honestly I'd say scrap the whole thing but they aren't going to miss out on the revenue, same reason they won't shorten the season. These are all business decisions being made, not basketball ones even if it hurts the appeal overall.

[Baller234]

It's a sad state of affairs when lifelong fans are advocating for getting rid of the all-star game. :oldlol:

Could have never have imagined that back in the day. Everyone used to really look forward to all-star weekend.

[Phoenix]

It's a sad state of affairs when lifelong fans are advocating for getting rid of the all-star game. :oldlol:

Could have never have imagined that back in the day. Everyone used to really look forward to all-star weekend.

I just think the mindset of the current players is different. Today's players give off a vibe like their main interest is just everyone getting their bag, and the competition element of it has diminished compared to the past. It's like, who cares about winning or losing when the worst player in the league still gets 10 million a year( I don't know the exact value of that, just saying the 12th man on the bench is still potentially sitting on generational wealth). I just don't think the incentive is there like it used to be. Even with the owners, if your franchise is worth billions do they really care if they're in contention unless you're one of those teams where winning is the expectation, when basically everyone is eating good regardless?

[90sgoat]

I don't understand why they think the Int'l players teaming up means anything.

Everyone knows it's a semi-racial thing. Not so much for the europeans, but for the black americans.

[Phoenix]

Everyone knows it's a semi-racial thing. Not so much for the europeans, but for the black americans.

It hadn't entered the furthest reaches of my mind until your comment.

[90sgoat]

It hadn't entered the furthest reaches of my mind until your comment.

It is true though.

[Phoenix]

It is true though.

Gonna need some details.....

[RRR3]

Gonna need some details.....
He's a white supremacist troll, ignore his shtick

[90sgoat]

Gonna need some details.....

Black americans today only really bring their competitive fire when it's about repping the black.

Don't shoot the messenger, it's another generational thing, they soft today and need that BLM ish to give full effort.

[pandiani17]

[QUOTE=Phoenix;15012215]I don't understand why they think the Int'l players teaming up means anything. The pride comes in when you're representing your country.

There are players that want to win whatever team they are representing, their hometown team, a professional team or their national team. It is called competitive spirit, and I think beating an american team would also be a great incentive for them.

[Phoenix]

Black americans today only really bring their competitive fire when it's about repping the black.

Don't shoot the messenger, it's another generational thing, they soft today and need that BLM ish to give full effort.

So in your estimation, the only thing that's gonna make Black American players go hard is going against white Int'l players. So would that mean they'd go hard against guys like Jokic and Luka, but ease off against Wemby, Giannis and SGA? How does that work in terms of effort if those players all end up on the floor at the same time( which would likely be the case)?

[Phoenix]

I don't understand why they think the Int'l players teaming up means anything. The pride comes in when you're representing your country.

There are players that want to win whatever team they are representing, their hometown team, a professional team or their national team. It is called competitive spirit, and I think beating an american team would also be a great incentive for them.

I know what it's called, and most of these players are lacking in that dept compared to the past if they have to be manipulated into giving a shit using gimmicks. I expect professional players to want to beat whoever is on the other side regardless of the context.

[Baller234]

There are players that want to win whatever team they are representing, their hometown team, a professional team or their national team. It is called competitive spirit, and I think beating an american team would also be a great incentive for them.

But who wants to see this? The U.S. team would be playing for national pride, but what would the world team be playing for? The chance to embarrass America?

It would be different if the players were representing their own countries, but the only commonality among the players is that they aren't from America. That will just make them feel like villains rather than opponents.

Canada shares a continent with America and they are next door neighbors, but you're telling me Canadian players should be on the opposing world team alongside African players and Greek players? The whole thing just sounds retarded.

[Phoenix]

But who wants to see this? The U.S. team would be playing for national pride, but what would the world team be playing for? The chance to embarrass America?

It would be different if the players were representing their own countries, but the only commonality among the players is that they aren't from America. That will just make them feel like villains rather than opponents.

Canada shares a continent with America and they are next door neighbors, but you're telling me Canadian players should be on the opposing world team alongside African players and Greek players? The whole thing just sounds retarded.

Exactly my point. There's this assumption that the 'world' is going to have some sense of pride to beat the U.S, but I feel like that manifests itself with national teams moreso than random Int'l players on one side. Like who are they representing that's suppose to equate to the pride they would feel repping their own nations? Especially for something like an NBA All-star game with no stakes. This isn't the USA vs France in the Olympics where Wemby would have real reason to give a shit. Even with USA/Canada, it really should 'a North American' team if anything which means someone like SGA wouldn't be with the Int'l squad.

I still say this is just throwing shit at the wall, just like this years albatross.

[BigKobeFan]

The all star fame declined as bran rose to being the face of the league. Coincidence?

[KOBE143]

Still not enough to make it competitive, players will still not care.. My suggestion is to make the regular season only 80 games and the other 2 games will be decided by the All-Star games.. East vs West.. All team from each conference will get the win/loss record from the result of the all-star games.. If the East team win the 2 games, all the team from the East get additional 2 wins record and all the west team get 2 losses, vice versa.. And also remove the fan voting, only the best players from each conference should be selected to play or maybe 1 player from each team will represent the all-star games.. Just my thoughts.

[Nowoco]

Still not enough to make it competitive, players will still not care.. My suggestion is to make the regular season only 80 games and the other 2 games will be decided by the All-Star games.. East vs West.. All team from each conference will get the win/loss record from the result of the all-star games.. If the East team win the 2 games, all the team from the East get additional 2 wins record and all the west team get 2 losses, vice versa.

That idea is so stupid and utterly ridiculous that I can't believe it hasnt come from Silver himself.

[Baller234]

That idea is so stupid and utterly ridiculous that I can't believe it hasnt come from Silver himself.

I actually do applaud Silver in some respects for being open to change. It's just that most of the ideas under his tenure have all been terrible. I wish he showed as much enthusiasm addressing the root cause of these issues instead of conjuring up pointless gimmicks.

[warriorfan]

I know what it's called, and most of these players are lacking in that dept compared to the past if they have to be manipulated into giving a shit using gimmicks. I expect professional players to want to beat whoever is on the other side regardless of the context.

I don’t like counting other people’s money. Usually when people bring up how much money athletes are making these days I don’t really care. I’ve talked about on here that the only thing I care about in terms of player salary is how it affects the team’s cap situation and their ability to be competitive.

Even all that being said I think the money that a lot of these guys are getting has an impact on what you are talking about. Athletes have made a lot of money for along time but it has been getting pretty astronomical lately. Mid players can be super set up for life after their first or second contract. It is more difficult to stay motivated in that situation and I think players are more careful with their bodies, especially in something like an All Star game.

[Phoenix]

I don’t like counting other people’s money. Usually when people bring up how much money athletes are making these days I don’t really care. I’ve talked about on here that the only thing I care about in terms of player salary is how it affects the team’s cap situation and their ability to be competitive.

Even all that being said I think the money that a lot of these guys are getting has an impact on what you are talking about. Athletes have made a lot of money for along time but it has been getting pretty astronomical lately. Mid players can be super set up for life after their first or second contract. It is more difficult to stay motivated in that situation and I think players are more careful with their bodies, especially in something like an All Star game.

I'm not counting other players money, unless you're saying that in a general sense. The players should be fairly compensated as a percentage of the revenue being brought in. What I am saying is that I expect someone operating at a professional level to perform with a baseline of competitive drive, because that's what got them to that level in the first place. The all-star game has been going on for decades, it's no more or less important in the overall picture than it was 40 years ago. This is a generational issue with the modern player mindset and they're basically treating the game as a joke. Paying patrons rightfully should be raising hell about it. If the current players aren't up for it, for whatever reason, then just drop it but the bullshit needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the legacy of the game and an insult to the fans.

[warriorfan]

I'm not counting other players money, unless you're saying that in a general sense. The players should be fairly compensated as a percentage of the revenue being brought in. What I am saying is that I expect someone operating at a professional level to perform with a baseline of competitive drive, because that's what got them to that level in the first place. The all-star game has been going on for decades, it's no more or less important in the overall picture than it was 40 years ago. This is a generational issue with the modern player mindset and they're basically treating the game as a joke. Paying patrons rightfully should be raising hell about it. If the current players aren't up for it, for whatever reason, then just drop it but the bullshit needs to stop. It's an embarrassment to the legacy of the game and an insult to the fans.

Was not implying that at all it was a disclaimer for my post. We are on the same page

[Phoenix]

Was not implying that at all it was a disclaimer for my post. We are on the same page

Oh ok, the way you led with that post I misunderstood it as you suggesting I was counting the players money. All good :cheers:

[Axe]

Team World already lost to The OGs this all star game.
Maybe not in the next few years. (https://i.ibb.co/g4tnXnv/IMG-20230626-052542.jpg)

The braindead psychopath who posted below you is a raging homosexual btw.