Killer of Killers

[Doomsday Dallas]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBqhXZ4Mz_s

[Meticode]

I planned on checking it out tomorrow. It might end up being better than Badlands which I'm sure has a way bigger budget.

I feel like them deciding to do the young predator's head in CGI was a big no-no. Practical is always better for them because they look so real. Even the original Predator from 1987 still holds up today and still gives me chills down my spine when he confronts Dutch like this...they did such a great job of making it be alien, but look real for a rubber suit.

https://media.tenor.com/fAqRQNeiZkUAAAAM/bh187-predator.gif

...another favorite part of the movie from me that gives me chills when Dutch calls out the predator. What a ****ing battle cry man...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWz4Ca1KiOs

[Doomsday Dallas]

...another favorite part of the movie from me that gives me chills when Dutch calls out the predator. What a ****ing battle cry man...



Predator very well may be the greatest film ever made lol... It's definitely in my Top 10.

It's sad that Prey is the best sequel we ever got... Prey was a solid film... everything else was either mediocre or crap.



There's actually a Predator movie that I've never watched: Alien v Predator 2 Requiem.

[warriorfan]

Predator is top 10. Holds up super well.

[Meticode]

Predator very well may be the greatest film ever made lol... It's definitely in my Top 10.

It's sad that Prey is the best sequel we ever got... Prey was a solid film... everything else was either mediocre or crap.



There's actually a Predator movie that I've never watched: Alien v Predator 2 Requiem.

Alien: Earth looks pretty good. Definitely will be checking that out...


https://youtu.be/ZbsiKjVAV28?si=aRZHPM-kAAa5gV8X

[Meticode]

There's actually a Predator movie that I've never watched: Alien v Predator 2 Requiem.

Don't. It's the second worse Predator film in the whole franchise behind "The Predator" by Shane Black. AvP2 is so dark that you can't tell what's going on half the time in the movie.

[Meticode]

Predator is top 10. Holds up super well.

Yep, pretty good rewatchablity too. I watch it a few times a year usually. I remember when they remastered it and put it out in 4K. There were parts in the movie where I could see the Predator in camo, but couldn't before.

[Meticode]

Predator very well may be the greatest film ever made lol... It's definitely in my Top 10.

It's sad that Prey is the best sequel we ever got... Prey was a solid film... everything else was either mediocre or crap.



There's actually a Predator movie that I've never watched: Alien v Predator 2 Requiem.

I agree. Prey was solid. There were a few nitpicks I didn't like. In a couple scenes you could tell they used CGI on the face, but others it looked practical. I wish as they were revealing the Predator they wouldn't of show him so earlier (ie: getting off the ship and the ship leaving him, hunting the wolf, etc). Introducing the Predator for the first time in the bear scene would've been much better IMO.

[highwhey]

Alien: Earth looks pretty good. Definitely will be checking that out...


https://youtu.be/ZbsiKjVAV28?si=aRZHPM-kAAa5gV8X

looks amazing

[warriorfan]

Yep, pretty good rewatchablity too. I watch it a few times a year usually. I remember when they remastered it and put it out in 4K. There were parts in the movie where I could see the Predator in camo, but couldn't before.

I agree. I have it on blue ray and end up re watching it more than almost any other movie. I also remember back in the day either USA or TBS would play it so often. Friday too. They would play those two movies every night it seemed :lol

[Meticode]

looks amazing

Production quality looks really good for a show. Love the horror tone. Alien franchise should be sci-fi horror most of the time.

[highwhey]

Production quality looks really good for a show. Love the horror tone. Alien franchise should be sci-fi horror most of the time.

yeah the production honestly is movie level, if it wasn't for the FX network logo, I'd think it was a film. glad it got the budget and personnel to make it look good bc a big part of that franchise is visuals. only 2 months away too, not bad.

[Meticode]

I agree. I have it on blue ray and end up re watching it more than almost any other movie. I also remember back in the day either USA or TBS would play it so often. Friday too. They would play those two movies every night it seemed :lol

Plus you learn so much stuff about the movie behind the scenes like how Jean Claude Van Damme was originally the Predator and in a more slimmer form doing ninja shit. And they filmed some of it then scrapped it because it was so bad. Thank god they scrapped that.

The actors were super competitive with each other. Arnold would always try to one up everyone when working out. He had his whole home gym flown in and installed in the hotel the crew stayed at.

Shane Black (the jokester Hawkins) wanted to wear legit military combat goggles, but they made him wear those big ass goofy glasses. Also originally instead of him wearing that camo baseball cap they wanted him to wear a red beret, but Black thought that would look dumb as f*ck running around in a jungle as a guerilla rescue team in a red beret. :oldlol: Most if not all of his jokes in the movie were improv. Also, the only reason Black wanted to be cast in the first place was to act and not do rewrites on the script. Because the filmers liked his writing on Lethal Weapon. So in the movie this is why Hawkins (Black) is killed first because the director knew Black wasn't going to do rewrites and his acting was horrid. So they killed him early to cut ties with him early. :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

This looks amazing actually.

I think going the "Spiderverse" route allows for so much more great action that simply does not feel right when done with real people. It just works. The audience already has to suspend reality with these movies, we don't need real humans in them.

[TheMan]

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[Meticode]

I just watched this and overall it was good. I really liked how they incorporated different Yautjas species, styles and weapons in each story. The Japan story was by far my favorite. Ever since I watched Predators and they had the short fight scene with the Yakuza clan member I always thought it would've been really cool for a Yautja to face off against a highly trained ninja. The roof parkour and red smoke bombs were awesome. My least favorite story was the WWII story. There ain't no damn way a WWII propeller plane is going to put up that kind of fight against a Yautja ship. They should've changed the timeframe to modern jets or something. I don't know. I just wasn't feeling that one as much.

I liked the ending story and what they showed the Yautjas does with victors to give a call back to Prey. Overall good watch.

[Doomsday Dallas]

About to watch this....

I'm hyped.

[Meticode]

Fun facts...

- The alpha Yuatja or the elder in the last story...his cape/cloak is made of xenomorph tails.

- In the Japanese story the voices for the brothers Kenji and Kiyoshi was voiced by Louis Ozawa Changchien who played as Hanzo the Yakuza clan member in Predators

[Doomsday Dallas]

disappointed because I want more...

This should not have been a movie... It needed to be several episodes... so the final battle seemed kinda rushed.

lmao that the kid got the famous pirate gun for his weapon.




They had something great here, but could've been delivered better... and it looks as if they were setting up Badlands to some degree.

I'm confident we will get a sequel... so many timelines that could be explored.

I was very entertained, just want more.




Marvel has 3 seasons of "What If?" 26 episodes total... Not all of the episodes were great, but the animation & style was quality in each one. Predator should've taken a similar approach.

[Meticode]

I'm confident we will get a sequel... so many timelines that could be explored.

I totally misunderstood until the end of the movie. At first I thought the Yuatja time traveled and plucked those three from three different eras of time, but what it looks like they actually did was freeze them like they showed Naru at the end from Prey and just wake those three up and dumped them in the arena.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I totally misunderstood until the end of the movie. At first I thought the Yuatja time traveled and plucked those three from three different eras of time, but what it looks like they actually did was freeze them like they showed Naru at the end from Prey and just wake those three up and dumped them in the arena.


Yea the ending kinda gave me a Raiders of the Lost Ark type of feeling... they had a bunch of humans in their vault as their artifacts.... was thinking Dutch was gonna be one of them for a second.

[Doomsday Dallas]

My least favorite story was the WWII story. There ain't no damn way a WWII propeller plane is going to put up that kind of fight against a Yautja ship. They should've changed the timeframe to modern jets or something. I don't know. I just wasn't feeling that one as much.

I agree with what you are saying... but I did like how the Predator was hunting with the ship... which is not how Predator's typically hunt, but for some reason I thought this change of hunting worked, and would only work in the form of a cartoon.

if they had a $200 million budget to make a Top Gun/Maverick vs Predator Ship type of movie... I don't see how they could make it work... so for the sake of this cartoon, it didn't bother me (except how he climbed out on to the wing midair)

While it was the worst of the 3 .... I still enjoyed it.



What doesn't work are predator dogs or Predator Hounds... which were in The Predator and Predators.... those are terrible.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlQJuLBRh0

been awhile since I've stopped by the Magnus review channel.

He had a problem with the woke element which I actually noticed too lol.



He says 3.5/5 if it wasn't woke (2.5/5)..... I'll give it 8/10.

[Meticode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlQJuLBRh0

been awhile since I've stopped by the Magnus review channel.

He had a problem with the woke element which I actually noticed too lol.



He says 3.5/5 if it wasn't woke (2.5/5)..... I'll give it 8/10.

I'm going to disagree with Tyrone here.

The main reason is he's been super anti-woke for a hot minute. If they show a strong woman he's almost exclusively against it and labeling woke.

Secondly female Viking warriors actually existed and they were called Valkyries or Shield Maidens like in the film. It's not like the writing forced a woman in a role that they didn't inhabit in real life. Female Viking warriors existed and they were ruthless.

Her killing several men in the charge scene was awesome and it wouldn't be realistic even if it was a man doing it much less a woman.

Him putting down 1/3 of the movie because he's super anti-woke when I don't think it was woke at all is rubbish to me.

[Phoenix]

Saw it last night, didn't have high expectations and really enjoyed it as well as the implications for a follow-up. Will we see Dutch or Harrigan? What about Adrian Brody's character in Predators since that movie ended on somewhat of a cliffhanger?

@Meticode I agree with you about the WWII story, that was my least favorite section. Frankly I could have watched the entire movie set in Japan, I've been saying in my own circles for years that they should have made a 'Predator in feudal Japan' movie ages ago.

[Phoenix]

I'm going to disagree with Tyrone here.

The main reason is he's been super anti-woke for a hot minute. If they show a strong woman he's almost exclusively against it and labeling woke.

Secondly female Viking warriors actually existed and they were called Valkyries or Shield Maidens like in the film. It's not like the writing forced a woman in a role that they didn't inhabit in real life. Female Viking warriors existed and they were ruthless.

Her killing several men in the charge scene was awesome and it wouldn't be realistic even if it was a man doing it much less a woman.

Him putting down 1/3 of the movie because he's super anti-woke when I don't think it was woke at all is rubbish to me.

Yeah, these tubers are feeding the algorithm and 'anti-woke' is in now with the current political climate. As you said, while I can definitely agree that Hollywood went over the line years ago with 'actual' woke stuff, female Vikings were a thing so it's not like they depicted a woman in a completely unrealistic situation.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I'm going to disagree with Tyrone here.

The main reason is he's been super anti-woke for a hot minute. If they show a strong woman he's almost exclusively against it and labeling woke.

Secondly female Viking warriors actually existed and they were called Valkyries or Shield Maidens like in the film. It's not like the writing forced a woman in a role that they didn't inhabit in real life. Female Viking warriors existed and they were ruthless.

Her killing several men in the charge scene was awesome and it wouldn't be realistic even if it was a man doing it much less a woman.

Him putting down 1/3 of the movie because he's super anti-woke when I don't think it was woke at all is rubbish to me.



I haven't seen his channel in forever... and don't get me wrong, you're talking to a guy that originally didn't notice how extremely woke Terminator Dark Fate was when he watched it.... so it's very hard for the woke element to deduct points off a film's score for me personally. Usually those types of woke things are noticed in a collection films & shows like MCU and Star Wars. I think the wokeness started to peak in the MCU whenever I watched the She-Hulk show.

But... I didn't know Magnus had gone down the anti-woke path to this degree... I use to watch his channel alot for movie reviews & commentary. Either way, the strong female character (which you point out did exist in the viking days) didn't bother me in Killer of Killers, but did become more noticeable in the final battle between the 3.

[Phoenix]

I haven't seen his channel in forever... and don't get me wrong, you're talking to a guy that originally didn't notice how extremely woke Terminator Dark Fate was when he watched it.... so it's very hard for the woke element to deduct points off a film's score for me personally. Usually those types of woke things are noticed in a collection films & shows like MCU and Star Wars. I think the wokeness started to peak in the MCU whenever I watched the She-Hulk show.

But... I didn't know Magnus had gone down the anti-woke path to this degree... I use to watch his channel alot for movie reviews & commentary. Either way, the strong female character (which you point out did exist in the viking days) didn't bother me in Killer of Killers, but did become more noticeable in the final battle between the 3.

'Woke' in retrospect basically started with the female Ghostbusters movie IIRC, but at that time I didn't really know that's what it was( and I reckon many of us didn't know what was coming).

[Doomsday Dallas]

Yeah, these tubers are feeding the algorithm and 'anti-woke' is in now with the current political climate. As you said, while I can definitely agree that Hollywood went over the line years ago with 'actual' woke stuff, female Vikings were a thing so it's not like they depicted a woman in a completely unrealistic situation.


Take the movie EndGame for example...

Most people had a problem with all the Female characters uniting for a Super Girl-Power moment... which was at the the end of the film.

https://images.thedirect.com/media/photos/avengers-a-force.jpg




My biggest problem with Wokeness in EndGame was in the the very beginning of the film lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODEKCA8pAHs


Here we have the most anticipated comic book movie of all time... and the director is talking about his Gay Date and weak Man-Crying in the opening scene.

It's completely unnecessary, unneeded and made me cringe.... This is the type of $hit that completely ruined the show "The Last of Us"

[Meticode]

'Woke' in retrospect basically started with the female Ghostbusters movie IIRC, but at that time I didn't really know that's what it was( and I reckon many of us didn't know what was coming).

They still keep churning out garbage..Snow Brown being the most recent bad example. I'm sure the M-She-U will keep doing woke.

[Phoenix]

Take the movie EndGame for example...

Most people had a problem with all the Female characters uniting for a Super Girl-Power moment... which was at the the end of the film.

https://images.thedirect.com/media/photos/avengers-a-force.jpg




My biggest problem with Wokeness in EndGame was in the the very beginning of the film lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODEKCA8pAHs


Here we have the most anticipated comic book movie of all time... and the director is talking about his Gay Date and weak Man-Crying in the opening scene.

It's completely unnecessary, unneeded and made me cringe.... This is the type of $hit that completely ruined the show "The Last of Us"

Yeah they didn't give a single fukk in Endgame. All the female heroes just happening to be on the same spot in the battlefield for a girl power photo op.


They still keep churning out garbage..Snow Brown being the most recent bad example. I'm sure the M-She-U will keep doing woke.

From what I've read and seen, reportedly the Fantastic 4 movie will mostly feature Sue Storm with everyone else in the background. Of course, the Silver Surfer is also female( yes, I'm aware there's a comic storyline with a female surfer), so you know that's all the opening Marvel needed. :facepalm

[Doomsday Dallas]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521382-Predator-vs-Spider-Man-2025-who-you-got&p=14996708

so which is better?

Killer of Killers vs Spiderverse

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[Phoenix]

Spider-verse is definitely better IMO, but Predators KOK is real solid. I think it fell off slightly at the end with the WW2 part as I didn't find it as interesting as the Vikings/Japan stories, but it finished pretty good and the easter egg of the Prey chick signalling that they're going around collecting those we've seen in the films kill Predators opens up some interesting future possibilities. Though I would have gone with Dutch at the end for maximum effect.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Spider-verse is definitely better IMO, but Predators KOK is real solid. I think it fell off slightly at the end with the WW2 part as I didn't find it as interesting as the Vikings/Japan stories, but it finished pretty good and the easter egg of the Prey chick signalling that they're going around collecting those we've seen in the films kill Predators opens up some interesting future possibilities. Though I would have gone with Dutch at the end for maximum effect.

man... Killer of Killers comes close though because for me it's a first of it's kind.

I don't watch much animation, and when I do, it's never Rated R, and Predator is surprisingly more of a childhood favorite (1987) compared to spider-man.

There's about 4 or 5 episodes of "What-If?" that I'd say are close to Spider-verse level.




The best way to watch a movie is to go in with low expectations and low interest... and then be caught off-guard with a masterpiece.

And Spider-Verse was successful in that regard... took my 10-year old son to see it in theaters at the time (2018)... thought it might be interesting to watch in 3-D..... ending up leaving the theater mind-blown.


It's gonna be hard to take down the animated champ that is Spider-Verse.... but Predator and What-If have come close.

[Phoenix]

man... Killer of Killers comes close though because for me it's a first of it's kind.

I don't watch much animation, and when I do, it's never Rated R, and Predator is surprisingly more of a childhood favorite (1987) compared to spider-man.

There's about 4 or 5 episodes of "What-If?" that I'd say are close to Spider-verse level.




The best way to watch a movie is to go in with low expectations and low interest... and then be caught off-guard with a masterpiece.

And Spider-Verse was successful in that regard... took my 10-year old son to see it in theaters at the time (2018)... thought it might be interesting to watch in 3-D..... ending up leaving the theater mind-blown.


It's gonna be hard to take down the animated champ that is Spider-Verse.... but Predator and What-If have come close.

I had similarly low expectations for this, but I thought it was a genuinely well done movie and opens up the lore in some interesting ways. It's actually kind of cool that both the Alien and Predator franchises have gotten a shot in the arm in recent years( Alien Romulus was pretty decent too, mind you I think Predator KOK is a better watch overall).

[Doomsday Dallas]

And then I made a fatal mistake and took my oldest son to see The Predator in theaters

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/54e310f0e4b0f4a6ba3ac899/1541954361762-DGYTK8O127GNP2VLQ25J/The+Predator+Theatrical+Poster.jpg



and after we left the theaters... my son looks at me and says: "Dad, wtf was that?" and I just looked at him said: "I'm sorry, son... I thought it might've been better than that"

[Phoenix]

Oh 'The Predator' is complete dogshit. I think 'Predators' with Adrian Brody is pretty underrated though, and maybe they'll tie up that story within this series.

[Bill Gates]

More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.

[warriorfan]

More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.

Imagine if you weren’t a low iq f.aggot

[Phoenix]

More woke debate? Imagine if T2 or Aliens (both with strong female leads) had come out today? All the whining about how woke those movies are. People would call them horrible moves just due to having a woman in them. I guess they dodged a bullet there.

Or Star Wars for that matter. The difference is those movies didn't consciously write the men in those movies to be complete morons to offset them against the empowered female. Sarah Conner, Ripley and Princess Leia were all great characters with the appropriate sensibilities and vulnerabilities to make them relatable. The fact that they were also female was never the point. Modern Hollywood doesn't know how to write.

[Meticode]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521382-Predator-vs-Spider-Man-2025-who-you-got&p=14996708

so which is better?

Killer of Killers vs Spiderverse

https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.IIZS~2ef73/w:350/h:530/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/PREDSM2025001_Brown.jpg

Spider-verse. The ending to the sequel was awesome. Great cliffhanger. Not even close to me.

[Meticode]

Or Star Wars for that matter. The difference is those movies didn't consciously write the men in those movies to be complete morons to offset them against the empowered female. Sarah Conner, Ripley and Princess Leia were all great characters with the appropriate sensibilities and vulnerabilities to make them relatable. The fact that they were also female was never the point. Modern Hollywood doesn't know how to write.

I don't think those movies would be called woke today by most people if they came out today. Their characters didn't feel unnatural or out of place or overpowering. Sarah Conner was never the lead in any of the Terminator films. Arnold overpowered everyone. In T2 Arnold and John were the main focus for majority of the movie and Sarah was the third most important character. In the original Kyle Reese was her protector. Same thing with Princess Leia. Vader, Luke and maybe even Han Solo were stronger characters.

Ripley is different though, but she wasn't thrown into the main lead role unnaturally. She didn't just become a badass in Aliens out of nowhere. She went through trials and tribulations in the first film, showed fear, showed weakness and overcoming it. And what she is in Aliens is her facing her fears.

Compare that to something like Rey in Star Wars, the first time she picks up a lightsaber she suddenly can defeat Kylo Ren who's trained with the Force and lightsaber for years and was a proper padawan, but she can defeat him? Several times in fact? That's crazy woke. Two totally different animals.

[Phoenix]

I don't think those movies would be called woke today by most people if they came out today. Their characters didn't feel unnatural or out of place or overpowering. Sarah Conner was never the lead in any of the Terminator films. Arnold overpowered everyone. In T2 Arnold and John were the main focus for majority of the movie and Sarah was the third most important character. In the original Kyle Reese was her protector. Same thing with Princess Leia. Vader, Luke and maybe even Han Solo were stronger characters.

Ripley is different though, but she wasn't thrown into the main lead role unnaturally. She didn't just become a badass in Aliens out of nowhere. She went through trials and tribulations in the first film, showed fear, showed weakness and overcoming it. And what she is in Aliens is her facing her fears.

Compare that to something like Rey in Star Wars, the first time she picks up a lightsaber she suddenly can defeat Kylo Ren who's trained with the Force and lightsaber for years and was a proper padawan, but she can defeat him? Several times in fact? That's crazy woke. Two totally different animals.

The only reason I say they would be is because of the current environment of 'empowered female character' movies and I think those films would get ( unjustifiably) lumped into that category. Those women wouldn't necessarily have to be the 'main' character per se, just prominently featured like Sarah Conner was even though Terminator was an Arnold vehicle. Sarah in T2 IMO would definitely be considered 'woke' in 2025, not because she really was, but just because of the environment we're in and I don't think many people can critically tell the difference nowadays. They'd equate Leia and Rey as 'woke' even though they're worlds apart in characterization. Granted, if those movies were actually made today they would probably depict those women differently. Remember that we first met Leia back in 1977 as the 'damsel in distress' that needed to be rescued by the two ( white cis) males. That wouldn't fly today. Actually if you recall, they had a lightsaber training scene in Rise of Skywalker and Leia got the better of Luke. I think that's a clear indication that Leia would have gotten the 'girl boss' treatment from the get-go today. They basically would have depicted her in the same way they did Rey, immediately capable of outshining the men. And Han/Luke would have been depicted as buffoons to make her look even better( which they basically did with Finn).

[Meticode]

The only reason I say they would be is because of the current environment of 'empowered female character' movies and I think those films would get ( unjustifiably) lumped into that category. Those women wouldn't necessarily have to be the 'main' character per se, just prominently featured like Sarah Conner was even though Terminator was an Arnold vehicle. Sarah in T2 IMO would definitely be considered 'woke' in 2025, not because she really was, but just because of the environment we're in and I don't think many people can critically tell the difference nowadays. They'd equate Leia and Rey as 'woke' even though they're worlds apart in characterization. Granted, if those movies were actually made today they would probably depict those women differently. Remember that we first met Leia back in 1977 as the 'damsel in distress' that needed to be rescued by the two ( white cis) males. That wouldn't fly today. Actually if you recall, they had a lightsaber training scene in Rise of Skywalker and Leia got the better of Luke. I think that's a clear indication that Leia would have gotten the 'girl boss' treatment from the get-go today. They basically would have depicted her in the same way they did Rey, immediately capable of outshining the men. And Han/Luke would have been depicted as buffoons to make her look even better( which they basically did with Finn).

A lot of it depends on the writing IMO. Even today. There are strong female leads today that aren't considered woke or forced. It just depends on the material. The material is usually woke. Especially from Disney lately.

[Phoenix]

A lot of it depends on the writing IMO. Even today. There are strong female leads today that aren't considered woke or forced. It just depends on the material. The material is usually woke. Especially from Disney lately.

That's just it, the Star Wars license is owned by Disney so Leia is a prime candidate. You'd need a completely different studio not intent on pushing identity politics.

[Bill Gates]

I don't think those movies would be called woke today by most people if they came out today. Their characters didn't feel unnatural or out of place or overpowering. Sarah Conner was never the lead in any of the Terminator films. Arnold overpowered everyone. In T2 Arnold and John were the main focus for majority of the movie and Sarah was the third most important character. In the original Kyle Reese was her protector. Same thing with Princess Leia. Vader, Luke and maybe even Han Solo were stronger characters.

Ripley is different though, but she wasn't thrown into the main lead role unnaturally. She didn't just become a badass in Aliens out of nowhere. She went through trials and tribulations in the first film, showed fear, showed weakness and overcoming it. And what she is in Aliens is her facing her fears.

Compare that to something like Rey in Star Wars, the first time she picks up a lightsaber she suddenly can defeat Kylo Ren who's trained with the Force and lightsaber for years and was a proper padawan, but she can defeat him? Several times in fact? That's crazy woke. Two totally different animals.

Aliens absolutely would have been labeled woke. Only survivors a woman and a little girl lol.

Terminator and T2 would have also I think but perhaps to a lesser degree.

And then T3 features a female Terminator lol, that would have for sure warranted woke calls.

[Meticode]

Aliens absolutely would have been labeled woke. Only survivors a woman and a little girl lol.

Terminator and T2 would have also I think but perhaps to a lesser degree.

I disagree.

[Bill Gates]

I disagree.

https://x.com/esjesjesj/status/1930861984200741155?t=fiqIz9zURYjHbRoZtfwskw&s=19

They new Alien series is being called "woke" now because there is a woman lead. But you think for some reason the originals would sneak past?

It's just because you saw those movies before being conditioned to view anything as woke.

A black dude in a commercial is woke now.

[Bill Gates]

Aliens actually had a trans marine too. You think a trans military would get by the anti-wokesters today?

[Baller234]

A black dude in a commercial is woke now.

A black person appearing in a commercial isn't woke, but a black person appearing in 80% of commercials at the expense of all other groups is definitely woke.

Black people have been over-represented in film, television and commercials to a ridiculous and abnormal degree. It's not anyone else's fault that you can't recognize the pattern.

[Baller234]

That's just it, the Star Wars license is owned by Disney so Leia is a prime candidate. You'd need a completely different studio not intent on pushing identity politics.

It's obvious that current Star Wars hates everything about old Star Wars, and that includes Leia.

Leia was a brave no nonsense hero but she was also a woman who gave in to her feminine desires. Her entire arc in the second movie is coming to terms with the fact that she's in love with Han.

That would never fly in current Star Wars. Romance isn't allowed anymore. The male heroes are all beta cucks and the female heroes are all fierce warriors that don't need no man.

[Meticode]

Aliens actually had a trans marine too. You think a trans military would get by the anti-wokesters today?
Martinez wasn't trans. She was a dyke lesbian. I'm pretty sure most people perceived her that way as well. At least anyone that I've ever talked to about the movie. That's the whole reason why Hudson jokes with her after waking up saying, "Has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?" It wasn't because she was a trans man, it was because she's was a woman, identifying as a woman, but masculine and gay. If you search it online it tells you this.

If you're going to say that would be woke (which I disagree with) you might as well say that every single movie Michelle Rodriguez has been in as a masculine military female was woke too. Because that's the type of character she's played in most of her movies in her career. Those wouldn't be woke today.

But in Aliens when Ripley is looking through the original Alien crews' bio Lambert (the blonde short hair woman) is labeled as a transgender in her file, but you would've never knew this in the original Alien movie that she was trans. There's no mention of it, or clues or anything and it was only added during Aliens production.

Listen...I agree there's a ton of woke stuff and maybe some stuff from back then would be considered woke, but I disagree on a lot of the things mentioned because of the way the writing was. It's of my opinion those things don't feel forced. I'm sure some people will say they're woke though. Can't please everyone. We'll agree to disagree.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I just don't get how or why anybody would be a cheerleader for men and women to drift further away from their traditional roles.

If these changes are natural in society.... why is Hollywood and Corporate America doing everything in their power to force the message?

why would you want women to be more masculine, men to be more feminine, and people to be more gay? Why become a progressively pro-woke cheerleader in that regard?

Nobody is trying eradicate this trend from society.... we've just taken notice of how extreme it has become in Movies & TV Shows. It's Forced.

There's an argument to be made that ART imitates life.... But I'm gonna argue that the propaganda machine is aware that LIFE imitates Art, and there's a reason why this stuff is so forced.

If you really want to get to the short & sweet simple answer as to why Hollywood does this: It's because it's blasphemous.



Here's a woke fun fact to consider: Women are overall less happier now that we have less of a patriarchy.

you would think all this girl-power, feminist garbage would bring more joy to women.... but it's actually done the opposite.

[Bill Gates]

That's because contrary to popular belief, humans don't chase happiness. We chase power. Do you think Trump and Musk just want to be "happy"? They would have retired to the beach decades ago if that was the case. Women are like that too, they want to own everything, just like men. They don't care as much about being "blissful" as everyone thinks.

You know who cares about being in bliss? Little kids. And as we grow older, we get bored of that.

[Bill Gates]

Martinez wasn't trans. She was a dyke lesbian. I'm pretty sure most people perceived her that way as well. At least anyone that I've ever talked to about the movie. That's the whole reason why Hudson jokes with her after waking up saying, "Has anyone ever mistaken you for a man?" It wasn't because she was a trans man, it was because she's was a woman, identifying as a woman, but masculine and gay. If you search it online it tells you this.

If you're going to say that would be woke (which I disagree with) you might as well say that every single movie Michelle Rodriguez has been in as a masculine military female was woke too. Because that's the type of character she's played in most of her movies in her career. Those wouldn't be woke today.

But in Aliens when Ripley is looking through the original Alien crews' bio Lambert (the blonde short hair woman) is labeled as a transgender in her file, but you would've never knew this in the original Alien movie that she was trans. There's no mention of it, or clues or anything and it was only added during Aliens production.

Listen...I agree there's a ton of woke stuff and maybe some stuff from back then would be considered woke, but I disagree on a lot of the things mentioned because of the way the writing was. It's of my opinion those things don't feel forced. I'm sure some people will say they're woke though. Can't please everyone. We'll agree to disagree.

Her name is Vasquez

https://thenerdybird.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/AliensVasquez.jpg


She'd 100% be called "great more forced woke Hollywood gay crap" by Doomsday Dallas today.

Then you have Ripley and Newt

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/Aliens-poster-Ripley-and-Newt.jpg


A woman and a little girl the only survivors while all the strong white male marines DIED. Obviously a woke message that women are the strongest of the species.

This would have been labeled the wokest shit ever made if it came out today.

[diamenz]

Aliens absolutely would have been labeled woke. Only survivors a woman and a little girl lol.



nah. that woke shit wasn't prevelant in hollywood back then and definitely wasn't thrown in our faces or getting shoved down our throats at every turn like it is now. it just happened naturally and wasn't a big deal. plus the acting and quality of the movies didn't suffer as a result of it. at worst if it were even a thing, it was tolerable.

[Bill Gates]

nah. that woke shit wasn't prevelant in hollywood back then and definitely wasn't thrown in our faces or getting shoved down our throats at every turn like it is now. it just happened naturally and wasn't a big deal. plus the acting and quality of the movies didn't suffer as a result of it. at worst if it were even a thing, it was tolerable.
I'm saying if that movie came out TODAY.

But also, there were lots of 'woke" movies before "woke" was a thing.

Imagine if Boys Don't Cry came out today? Or 'Do the Right Thing". Those moves are as woke as it gets. Or Dances with Wolves, 9 to 5.

How about Trading Places? poor black dude switching places with a rich white dude. :oldlol:

Or that one flick where Richard Pryor was a poor black guy handed millions of dollars.

[Bill Gates]

And Terminator? Strong female Sarah Connor defeats the ultimate unstoppable White Male. Like, you're fooling yourself if you think that doesn't get a "woke" label today.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Yea there's a difference in that Aliens was like the first movie to ever do this.... kinda makes it original right?

But here we are almost 40 years later and we have Hollywood and Corporate America trying to make it the new normal.... it's not an original idea anymore is it?


You picked a movie that was the first of it's kind... almost 40 years later men & women have drifted so far away from their traditional roles that we can't even properly define what a woman is anymore and have to use pronouns.

And you want to become a cheerleader for this bombardment of wokeness as if it's still not progressive enough?



There's a difference between finding one random & rare 80's movie with a strong female lead and a dyke... compared to a never ending marketing campaign geared towards wokeness the past 10 years.




Go into youtube and search WOKE commercials... Welcome to the future. Can you honestly say you want more of this stuff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOPlGE_awKw
WOKE Pride Month Commercials: Try To Guess 2024!

[diamenz]

I'm saying if that movie came out TODAY.

But also, there were lots of 'woke" movies before "woke" was a thing.

Imagine if Boys Don't Cry came out today? Or 'Do the Right Thing". Those moves are as woke as it gets. Or Dances with Wolves, 9 to 5.

How about Trading Places? poor black dude switching places with a rich white dude. :oldlol:

Or that one flick where Richard Pryor was a poor black guy handed millions of dollars.

honestly i don't think that would be the case at all. like i said, any mild wokism back then would happen naturally and wasn't injected into the movie at it's outset, so it wouldn't suffer as a result of it. nowadays, movies are based on being problack, profemale, multigender, what have you and the movie is built around that. it's just not the same at all.

[Bill Gates]

honestly i don't think that would be the case at all. like i said, any mild wokism back then would happen naturally and wasn't injected into the movie at it's outset, so it wouldn't suffer as a result of it. nowadays, movies are based on being problack, profemale, multigender, what have you and the movie is built around that. it's just not the same at all.
The entire movie is a woman and little girl overcoming everything scary while all the men die :oldlol:

Complete with butch dyke lesbian in the military.

The new Alien series is being called "woke" right now just because of a female android. But you think the original which had a female LEAD wouldn't?



okay

[Bill Gates]

The entire reason this even came up is because Killer of Killers is being labeled woke and it isn't "based on being problack, profemale, multigender, what have you"

[Meticode]

honestly i don't think that would be the case at all. like i said, any mild wokism back then would happen naturally and wasn't injected into the movie at it's outset, so it wouldn't suffer as a result of it. nowadays, movies are based on being problack, profemale, multigender, what have you and the movie is built around that. it's just not the same at all.

I agree with this.

[warriorfan]

Bill Gates has the lowest iq. It’s amazing :roll:


I’m usually pretty good at telling but I can’t tell if he’s a super lame troll or just really that stupid.

[Doomsday Dallas]

That's because contrary to popular belief, humans don't chase happiness. We chase power. Do you think Trump and Musk just want to be "happy"? They would have retired to the beach decades ago if that was the case. Women are like that too, they want to own everything, just like men. They don't care as much about being "blissful" as everyone thinks.

You know who cares about being in bliss? Little kids. And as we grow older, we get bored of that.


While men & women are both human... they are built differently physically & mentally... you just erased gender entirely and lumped women into the same category as Musk & Trump.

Women want to be happy (at all ages) contrary to your own made up belief.... more than men because they run off emotion more than logic.... which is why 70% of divorces are initiated by women.

It's men that focus more on the duty of being a provider, sacrificing their own happiness to do so... (or that's how it use to be.)

It is because women seek power & independence as opposed to being submissive they find themselves increasingly less happy.... and completely out of their role as a mother.




Either way... we've gone from this:

http://www.endedtvseries.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/olivia-dabo-the-wonder-years-e1400485518479.jpg


to this American abomination:

https://imusic.b-cdn.net/images/item/original/989/5039036080989.jpg





You know who cares about being in bliss? Little kids. And as we grow older, we get bored of that.


My point exactly... your whole platform panders to kids.

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2024/04/PP_2024.4.9_partisan-coalitions_4-01.png

as we get older... we get tired of it.




what has it all led to? Women wanting the patriarchy back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMCX20K7pDY

[Meticode]

Sucks that this turned into this discussion versus about the mini movie. Can't even get away from these conversations when talking about f*cking aliens killing for sport. :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Sucks that this turned into this discussion versus about the mini movie. Can't even get away from these conversations when talking about f*cking aliens killing for sport. :oldlol:



I shouldn't have posted the Tyrone Magnus review lol.



This is all my fault lol.




Makes sense that he'd be as anti-woke as he is though.... Like, I said, been forever since I had stopped by his channel.



https://c.tenor.com/vS8Ui1_qIQUAAAAd/tenor.gif

[Meticode]

I shouldn't have posted the Tyrone Magnus review lol.



This is all my fault lol.




Makes sense that he'd be as anti-woke as he is though.... Like, I said, been forever since I had stopped by his channel.



https://c.tenor.com/vS8Ui1_qIQUAAAAd/tenor.gif

He click baits too now. I think his most recent one was on Thunderbolts and he titled it "Marvel's back!" with a thumbs up from him. Then when you watch his review he's just like "Marvel's not back, it was just mediocre with some good parts of the movie."

lol

[Baller234]

I'm saying if that movie came out TODAY.

But also, there were lots of 'woke" movies before "woke" was a thing.

Imagine if Boys Don't Cry came out today? Or 'Do the Right Thing". Those moves are as woke as it gets. Or Dances with Wolves, 9 to 5.

How about Trading Places? poor black dude switching places with a rich white dude. :oldlol:

Or that one flick where Richard Pryor was a poor black guy handed millions of dollars.

Some of those movies actually ARE woke but it hadn't become a dominant trend yet. The seeds were definitely being planted though. An entire generation of people grew up thinking Spike Lee was some genius who had something important to say.

Meanwhile like most woke trash, DTRT is a fukking retarded movie with a retarded message. Radio Raheem was not a martyr or a victim. He was a violent troublemaker and he was entirely responsible for his own death.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Meanwhile like most woke trash, DTRT is a fukking retarded movie with a retarded message.


Not a completely retarded message. Not in this scene.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbvT6YKPzk

[Baller234]

Not a completely retarded message. Not in this scene.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUbvT6YKPzk

True.

The movie flirts with both sides but in the end you can tell where Spike was hoping the audience would land. In the end Mookie doesn't really get any type of comeuppance for starting the riot and Sal is way too understanding and forgiving.

In reality Mookie is a gigantic piece of shit and Sal should have wrang his neck.

[Doomsday Dallas]

True.

The movie flirts with both sides but in the end you can tell where Spike was hoping the audience would land. In the end Mookie doesn't really get any type of comeuppance for starting the riot and Sal is way too understanding and forgiving.

In reality Mookie is a gigantic piece of shit and Sal should have wrang his neck.


You make a good point though... what is Doing the Right Thing? Burning down your own neighborhood and businesses whenever there is some kind of injustice against one black person?

That's doing the right thing?



There's an easy way to solve this problem btw if the BLM crowd is so terrified of white cops.... Black Cops patrol Black Neighborhoods. We can go back to segregation in that regard if it helps the BLM crowd feel safer at night.

[Baller234]

You make a good point though... what is Doing the Right Thing? Burning down your own neighborhood and businesses whenever there is some kind of injustice against one black person?

That's doing the right thing?



There's an easy way to solve this problem btw if the BLM crowd is so terrified of white cops.... Black Cops patrol Black Neighborhoods. We can go back to segregation in that regard if it helps the BLM crowd feel safer at night.

Nah black people don't riot when black cops kill black people. Look no further than Tyre Nichols. Easily the worst case of police brutality caught on camera in our lifetime and it was nothing but crickets.

And it happened AFTER Floyd. AFTER they swore up and down that raising awareness was the most important thing.

As for the ending of DTRT, Sal was basically a father figure to Mook. Before the Radio Rahiem incident in the pizzaria Sal is telling Mookie how much he means to him and how he's always been like a son to him. He tells him that he'll always have a place in his business no matter what.

And how does Mookie repay him? By burning down his business and his life's work. All because some violent asshole needlessly tried to KILL Sal and then wouldn't surrender to the police when apprehended.

Sal and his sons are the real victims in that movie, but in Spike Lee's twisted mind his attitude towards them seems to be "Oh well".

[Phoenix]

I maintain the only/main reason George Floyd/BLM caught fire like it did was because it happened 3 months into the Pandemic, and we were all crazy from being locked down. The world was a powder keg, and that was the igniter. If 2020 was a normal year that would have been treated like any other similar situation.

[Meticode]

It's funny to see the discussion of the movie Predator: Killer of Killers has migrated to topics George Floyd and COVID now. :roll:

[Bill Gates]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?

[Doomsday Dallas]

It's funny to see the discussion of the movie Predator: Killer of Killers has migrated to topics George Floyd and COVID now. :roll:


lol....

yea let's get back on topic...

For the Sequel I think we need a Knight, a Western Cowboy, and maybe a Roman gladiator of some kind.... no Females.


and maybe we can throw in a Gorilla vs Predator (without weaponry) .... since the topic of 100 men vs a Gorilla has been popular lately.

Predator had a pretty solid fight with a Bear, So I'd like to see Predator vs Gorilla.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8fwWLv_x5A

[Doomsday Dallas]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?


oh God.... here we go again

[Meticode]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?

This is kind a sad way to see life if you think that's what majority of people want in life. Neither of those things are what's important.

[Meticode]

lol....

yea let's get back on topic...

For the Sequel I think we need a Knight, a Western Cowboy, and maybe a Roman gladiator of some kind.... no Females.


and maybe we can throw in a Gorilla vs Predator (without weaponry) .... since the topic of 100 men vs a Gorilla has been popular lately.

Predator had a pretty solid fight with a Bear, So I'd like to see Predator vs Gorilla.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8fwWLv_x5A

A really good one would be a Instagram model that slides into the Yuatja's DMs. Those are the deadliest predators of all. Especially the one that goes for high profile sports athletes. Whatever Yuatja gets involved with her is paying out a settlement.

[Bill Gates]

This is kind a sad way to see life if you think that's what majority of people want in life. Neither of those things are what's important.

Adults want to make a difference in the world, that is why so many are online screaming about politics. You think doing that makes them "happy"? And that is what women want. They don't care about just being in a state of happiness. They want to call the shots.

Everyone wants to just be in charge, happy or not

[Bill Gates]

oh God.... here we go again

Here we go again? I was replying to YOUR long ass post :oldlol:

[Baller234]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?

Okay now I'm 100% convinced you're a weirdo who lied about being a dad. Most women would kill to be a housewife actually with a husband that provides.

Yout post was extremely revealing. I'm sorry you're depressed and unhappy and don't have anything to live for. I recommend trying to find peace with God and coming to terms with the fact that you're not special and you're not owed anything.

[Bill Gates]

Okay now I'm 100% convinced you're a weirdo who lied about being a dad. Most women would kill to be a housewife actually with a husband that provides.

Yout post was extremely revealing. I'm sorry you're depressed and unhappy and don't have anything to live for. I recommend trying to find peace with God and coming to terms with the fact that you're not special and you're not owed anything.
yeah?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer-working-homemaking.aspx




Men don't even want housewives any more. I mean, is that what you want in a woman? To just sit around watching TV all day while you work? No aspirations or dreams. I will say that house making is real actual work when the children are small, but that is it. After that both sides are like "okay time to do something with yourself"

[Baller234]

yeah?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/267737/record-high-women-prefer-working-homemaking.aspx




Men don't even want housewives any more. I mean, is that what you want in a woman? To just sit around watching TV all day while you work? No aspirations or dreams. I will say that house making is real actual work when the children are small, but that is it. After that both sides are like "okay time to do something with yourself"

Before we continue this discussion, why did you lie about being married with kids?

If you're not lying, then how come you're not happy and you don't feel like there's anything to live for? Shouldn't your children be the only motivation you need? Don't you want to see them grow up, get married or be successful?

Like I said your post was extremely revealing. You admitted that above all else you desire being in charge. It's why the left is so dangerous, because deep down all of you guys crave authoritarianism. As if the Covid lockdowns weren't a glaring sign.

The only person you need to be in charge of is yourself and your imaginary made up kids.

[Bill Gates]

I have three children, all in their 20s now. You do not need to believe me if you don't want to. That is okay. But you have no wife, and no kids, and are the expert on this subject?

It isn't about being "authoritarian". It is much more about just feeling like your life matters. Women want their life to make a difference beyond making a home. And honestly the idea that we all just want to be in a state of "happiness" is a very shallow idea of human existence. And a much sadder one if you think about it. Lacks depth and a real understanding of what drives all of us. Not many of us aspire to sit on a couch our whole life.

[Baller234]

I have three children, all in their 20s now. You do not need to believe me if you don't want to. That is okay. But you have no wife, and no kids, and are the expert on this subject?

It isn't about being "authoritarian". It is much more about just feeling like your life matters. Women want their life to make a difference beyond making a home. And honestly the idea that we all just want to be in a state of "happiness" is a very shallow idea of human existence. And a much sadder one if you think about it. Lacks depth and a real understanding of what drives all of us. Not many of us aspire to sit on a couch our whole life.

It should be the goal of every person to find happiness and be at peace with their life.

It doesn't sound like you're at peace. It sounds like you're emotionally distressed. You don't feel "seen" enough. Not enough people are telling you that you "matter".

You sound like a female.

[Bill Gates]

It should be the goal of every person to find happiness and be at peace with their life.

It doesn't sound like you're at peace. It sounds like you're emotionally distressed. You don't feel "seen" enough. Not enough people are telling you that you "matter".

You sound like a female.
I was only answering your questions, and I think we both know who the emotionally triggered one is :oldlol:

[Baller234]

I was only answering your questions, and I think we both know who the emotionally triggered one is :oldlol:

I'm not triggered over anything. You lefties engage in an awful lot of shaming and browbeating.

Meanwhile you're all just emotionally depressed losers. That's not even my own opinion, it's a fact that comes straight from your own mouth. You don't feel seen enough and you don't think your life matters.

So since you admit that you're a giant loser who isn't happy, maybe you should consider the fact that the path you've chosen so far has been the wrong path. Wokism and leftism doesn't sound like it's working for you.

[Bill Gates]

I'm not triggered over anything. You lefties engage in an awful lot of shaming and browbeating.

Meanwhile you're all just emotionally depressed losers. That's not even my own opinion, it's a fact that comes straight from your own mouth. You don't feel seen enough and you don't think your life matters.

So since you admit that you're a giant loser who isn't happy, maybe you should consider the fact that the path you've chosen so far has been the wrong path. Wokism and leftism doesn't sound like it's working for you.

OR, what if you took your own advice and focused on finding happiness and be at peace within your own life :confusedshrug:

[Baller234]

OR, what if you took your own advice and focused on finding happiness and be at peace within your own life :confusedshrug:

Just trying to help bro.

I am at peace. I don't feel entitled to anything and I don't expect anyone to provide for me. When you have unrealistic expectations then you will always feel empty and unsatisfied when they aren't met.

Sounds like you have extremely unrealistic expectations. Either that or maybe your standards are just too high. You would think having a loving wife and kids would be enough to get you through.

But in order for you be happy you need to feel in charge. You need power. You need to feel like your life matters. Whatever the hell any of that is supposed to mean. If you aren't even in charge of your own life then how can you expect to be in charge of anyone else's?

This is why I am so skeptical that you're even a father. You don't sound like a man who loves his kids. In another thread you said the outcome of their sporting events didn't matter to you and that they weren't important. Now you're saying that you need more in order to be happy. If you do have kids then I really feel bad for them because it sounds like their father is a submissive, emotional cuck who needs to wake up.

There's no shame in admitting that you were wrong. Maybe it's time for you to consider a new plan.

https://media.tenor.com/RdI0h_OZlw4AAAAM/trump-donald-trump.gif

[Bill Gates]

Unrealistic expectations about what? I am trying to explain to you why things are the way the are now. Your the one with expectations that every wife wants to be a home body. :oldlol:

Maybe if you changed your expectations, you'd have a wife.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/marriageupdated-w640.png


I'm sure "Girl-Power" has nothing to do with that.

[Bill Gates]

https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/marriageupdated-w640.png


I'm sure "Girl-Power" has nothing to do with that.

It has everything to do with it yes.

[Doomsday Dallas]

It has everything to do with it yes.

Well.... congrats to Feminism for destroying the institution of marriage.

That's a major success for society & children

[Bill Gates]

Actually a complex stat now that I look at it. Because around 90% of all adults get married at least one time. But only around 50% are currently married. You have a lot of older widows with an aging population. And life expectancy is higher vs then. Divorce rate is actually on the drop now too.

So I was wrong, "girl power" certainly isn't everything there. Changes in the economy are a big factor too.

[Baller234]

I don't like to put any faith in "polls" and "studies" but whenever the topic is being debated the data usually confirms that left leaning women are unhappier and more lonely on average.

I work for an office that I would say is 90% right leaning. Most of the women are team-Trump. The one liberal is always going on about how she's in therapy and how she suffers from chemical imbalance and yadda yadda, always complaining about not having any time for herself because she's always with the kids.

She's not a total loon though. She's beautiful actually and I talk to her all the time. I don't hold any ill will towards her. Sometimes we joke about Trump. But you could tell she's not happy and is just chugging along. It's sad to witness. Meanwhile the other girls will bring their kids to the office on occasion and you could tell they're just elated.

I don't think it's a surprise that the one girl in the office who goes to therapy is the lefty.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.statista.com/graphic/1/183663/number-of-married-couples-in-the-us.jpg


Here is another way to look at it. Although flawed, every way of looking at marriage numbers is flawed. There are too many factors at play.

Economy is a huge one, as you can see the dip during the housing crisis. You go back far enough and a woman basically had to be married just to not be homeless.

[Phoenix]

Alot of marriages from 60 years ago lasted just because the wife was at home, so there was a dependence factor. Declining marriage rates was an inevitability of the feminism movement, along with child bearing. The modern woman can go out and get hers, 'don't need no man', and doesn't feel any need to procreate( I wasn't put on earth to produce).

So umm.. Predator Killer of Killers lol....

[Doomsday Dallas]

So umm.. Predator Killer of Killers lol....


I tried to get back on topic... lol

[Doomsday Dallas]

Actually a complex stat now that I look at it.


You know what else is complex? The Female Mind... every woman in the modern age is completely bipolar.

Woman want to be in charge... yet every one of them has some kind of twisted 50-Shades-of-Grey fantasy where they are dominated, submissive, abused, told with specific instructions how to dress and where to be, yet provided for.

[Bill Gates]

I tried to get back on topic... lol

No you didn't, you just posted marriage numbers and got us talking about that.

[Bill Gates]

You know what else is complex? The Female Mind... every woman in the modern age is completely bipolar.

Woman want to be in charge... yet every one of them has some kind of twisted 50-Shades-of-Grey fantasy where they are dominated, submissive, abused, told with specific instructions how to dress and where to be, yet provided for.

That is what I have been saying. Their mind is much more complex than just "I want to be happy". Although that is also too dumbed down for the male mind as well.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Although that is also too dumbed down for the male mind as well.

No, I think most men are fully aware that most women are crazy.

It's not that men are dumb, women are just insane.



Another woke talking point you just made right there.

[Bill Gates]

No, I think most men are fully aware that most women are crazy.

It's not that men are dumb, women are just insane.



Another woke talking point you just made right there.

You actually didn't understand what I was saying. I was saying that just "being happy" is too simplistic and dumb for either mind. Humans in general are more complex than that. Women and men's minds are very different, but both seek more than happiness.

[Doomsday Dallas]

You actually didn't understand what I was saying. I was saying that just "being happy" is too simplistic and dumb for either mind. Humans in general are more complex than that. Women and men's minds are very different, but both seek more than happiness.

Well... the traditional values that men are looking for are becoming harder & harder to find in the Western World.

Another thing for "Girl-Power" to celebrate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loEPn3u78nM



"Hook-Up culture" is what we're left with.

[Bill Gates]

First off, every man can only point to himself. If you are playing victim to feminism? You will always be a victim. There are women out there, and not hard to find now either with all the dating apps and whatnot. If you just have to have a woman play housewife for you? That is on you.

But second, no one needs to be married. Monogamy isn't even natural. It might be during child raising to some degree, but after that nature wants both the male and female to reproduce again elsewhere. So just staying in a marriage for that long is fighting against what both brains lean toward. Marriage is hard work.

[Phoenix]

First off, every man can only point to himself. If you are playing victim to feminism? You will always be a victim. There are women out there, and not hard to find now either with all the dating apps and whatnot. If you just have to have a woman play housewife for you? That is on you.

But second, no one needs to be married. Monogamy isn't even natural. It might be during child raising to some degree, but after that nature wants both the male and female to reproduce again elsewhere. So just staying in a marriage for that long is fighting against what both brains lean toward. Marriage is hard work.

My best friend says the same thing lol. I'm inclined to agree ( we're both married 15+ years). Monogamy goes against our innate biological instincts and needs.

[Bill Gates]

My best friends says the same thing lol. I'm inclined to agree ( we're both married 15+ years). Monogamy goes against our innate biological instincts and needs.

It is true, nature wants "hook-up culture", it wants us to go out and impregnate as many women as we can.

[Meticode]

My best friend says the same thing lol. I'm inclined to agree ( we're both married 15+ years). Monogamy goes against our innate biological instincts and needs.

While I agree that's what nature wants that's not what you or most people think they want. Family and the people you love are the the just important thing in life. Whether that's close friends, blood, etc

Every person in this world only has finite time. And we will all end up on our deathbed one way or another. And the only thing that's going to matter in those fleeting moments as life leaves your body is going to be the memories and relationships he had with people that actually matter to you. All the materialistic s*** that we gained throughout our life small mean anything in those moments. All that will matter is the people that you love and that love you and hopefully you're fortunate enough to have those people around you as you leave this reality.

[Meticode]

My best friend says the same thing lol. I'm inclined to agree ( we're both married 15+ years). Monogamy goes against our innate biological instincts and needs.

While I agree that's what nature wants that's not what you or most people think they want. Family and the people you love are the most important thing in life. Whether that's close friends, blood, etc

Every person in this world only has a finite amount of time. And we will all end up on our deathbed one way or another. And the only thing that's going to matter in those fleeting moments as your life leaves your body is going to be the memories and relationships he had with people that actually mattered to you. All the materialistic sh*t that we gained throughout our life won't mean anything in those moments. All that will matter is the people that you loved and that loved you and hopefully you're fortunate enough to have those people around you as you leave this reality.

And if those things don't end up being important to you and you don't value them throughout your life and when you go then you're going to be a very lonely person at the end and wished you made different decisions to establish meaningful relationships.

[Phoenix]

While I agree that's what nature wants that's not what you or most people think they want. Family and the people you love are the most important thing in life. Whether that's close friends, blood, etc

Every person in this world only has a finite amount of time. And we will all end up on our deathbed one way or another. And the only thing that's going to matter in those fleeting moments as your life leaves your body is going to be the memories and relationships he had with people that actually mattered to you. All the materialistic sh*t that we gained throughout our life won't mean anything in those moments. All that will matter is the people that you loved and that loved you and hopefully you're fortunate enough to have those people around you as you leave this reality.

And if those things don't end up being important to you and you don't value them throughout your life and when you go then you're going to be a very lonely person at the end and wished you made different decisions to establish meaningful relationships.

Sure, I mean I can both value the things you're talking about while believing what I said earlier about monogamy. It's pushing against those basic instincts to prioritize the things you're talking about, for the reasons you outlined.

[Bill Gates]

I am family and love first as well, of course. But you can have "people you love" without marriage and the idea that it is required to have a meaningful life is dated thinking. There are plenty of married men and women who are completely miserable. And there are plenty of divorced people who are living fulfilled lives.

Doomsday and Baller probably disagree with that even though I am arguing in their favor lol.

[Meticode]

If you think about it the movie Predators was woke. The Yautja had that Hunter Yuatja chained up because they have racism within their culture. That chained up Hunter Yuatja was representing the black man in America and the bigger alpha Yuatja that was an Berserker was the white man oppressing him. (sarcasm)

[Baller234]

Getting back to woke entertainment:

https://comicbookmovie.com/fantastic-four/the-fantastic-four-first-steps-producer-appears-to-confirm-that-sue-storm-will-be-the-teams-leader-a221070

If you're too lazy to read, the article confirms that Sue Storm will be the one leading the Fantastic 4 in the upcoming film instead of Mr. Fantastic.

I haven't watched a Marvel movie since the last Avengers film so I had zero intention of seeing this, but it's yet another instance of Disney wokifying a known brand.

Apparently the Fantastic Four as we knew them before was too 'problematic'. So now you have Johnny Storm as a cuck instead of a ladies man and you have Mr. Fantastic who's a submissive and has to be led around by his wife mommy.

[BurningHammer]

Wokephobia in action :oldlol:

[diamenz]

I don't like to put any faith in "polls" and "studies" but whenever the topic is being debated the data usually confirms that left leaning women are unhappier and more lonely on average.

I work for an office that I would say is 90% right leaning. Most of the women are team-Trump. The one liberal is always going on about how she's in therapy and how she suffers from chemical imbalance and yadda yadda, always complaining about not having any time for herself because she's always with the kids.

She's not a total loon though. She's beautiful actually and I talk to her all the time. I don't hold any ill will towards her. Sometimes we joke about Trump. But you could tell she's not happy and is just chugging along. It's sad to witness. Meanwhile the other girls will bring their kids to the office on occasion and you could tell they're just elated.

I don't think it's a surprise that the one girl in the office who goes to therapy is the lefty.

chicks like that usually just need some good dick.

[Baller234]

chicks like that usually just need some good dick.

Here's the real kicker. Her husband is a fireman. :oldlol:

I've met him several times. Cool guy. Tall, in shape. Not some beta cuck loser. I never got into it with him about politics but if I didn't know any better I might have guessed he was a Trumper.

I'll smash a lib broad but I could never marry her or have kids with her.

[Doomsday Dallas]

First off, every man can only point to himself. If you are playing victim to feminism? You will always be a victim.


My original argument is that women are the biggest victims of feminism... ultimately they are less happier because of it.

You come back and say women don't really care that much about being happy that they want to be in charge... think about that.

Feminism is basically "women in charge"


So let me rephrase your argument: "women don't care about being feminine anymore... they want to be masculine"



never in a million years will you sell me on the idea that these woke ideologies are good for society.

Your ancestors would disagree with them, The Bible disagrees with them, and even science disagrees with them.

[Doomsday Dallas]

But second, no one needs to be married. Monogamy isn't even natural.

That's what we need... every girl that's born going forward to have more daddy issues, as if we don't have enough of that in society.

Monogamy is more unnatural to men than it is to women... Men make the bigger sacrifice in relationships because of this fact.

As the saying goes: Men need a thousand women to satisfy his one need... Women need one man to satisfy her thousands of needs. There's truth to it (or use to be)



Another thing about modern day feminism is it gives women the mindset that they can sleep around and take pride in it the same way a man does.

I think that's an excellent philosophy to preach to the young women of America. smh.



Imagine telling your own daughter nobody needs to get married, monogamy isn't natural.

[warriorfan]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?

This guy is a psycho

:roll:

[Bill Gates]

That's what we need... every girl that's born going forward to have more daddy issues, as if we don't have enough of that in society.

Monogamy is more unnatural to men than it is to women... Men make the bigger sacrifice in relationships because of this fact.

As the saying goes: Men need a thousand women to satisfy his one need... Women need one man to satisfy her thousands of needs. There's truth to it (or use to be)



Another thing about modern day feminism is it gives women the mindset that they can sleep around and take pride in it the same way a man does.

I think that's an excellent philosophy to preach to the young women of America. smh.



Imagine telling your own daughter nobody needs to get married, monogamy isn't natural.
That is a dumb saying that I have never heard. Women's hormones basically turn them into teenage boys before they hit menopause. Nature wants them to go out and get impregnated before their clock is up, and they are ragingly horny. Monogamy isn't natural, and I have a saying that you might have heard before, "The truth doesn't care about your feelings".

I have 2 daughters, and the last thing I would ever do is make them feel like they have to get married to be happy. Your mindset is the exact reason women are doing what they are doing now! You are the cause of feminism.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I have 2 daughters, and the last thing I would ever do is make them feel like they have to get married to be happy. Your mindset is the exact reason women are doing what they are doing now! You are the cause of feminism.

If my daughter wants to have sex & have children, which is what most women want, I'd do what any rational normal father does and suggest they get married.

Are you going to go full feminist and tell them they don't need a man to have children too?



Do Liberals just look at all the Traditional Conservative Values and try to rebel against them and do the exact opposite?


and WTF are you guys doing over there in Seattle? Congratulations on having the highest body count.

https://x.com/RealSafeSeattle/status/1797675648481399259


I never would have guessed that Washington is #1 among states when it comes to average number of sexual partners per person with a whopping 54.8 people per person! By contrast, our neighboring Oregon is “only” 10 per person.


The national average number of sexual partners in the US is 14.8. Washington leads the nation with an average of 54.8, nearly 24 partners more than the second-highest state!

[Bill Gates]

I tell them to do what makes THEM happy. Marriage is no requirement. Kids are no requirement. It is THEIR life. And politics aside, it is no fathers dream for their daughter to live out their life as a subservient house wife to some dolt right winger. I'd rather them be successful and independent vs that.

Is the message that you tell yourself is that your life is failure if not married? I mean, I'm literally arguing FOR you here :oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

That Twitter survey is click-bait BTW. It posts fake outlandish news and tries to get you to click the link in there. :facepalm

[Doomsday Dallas]

I tell them to do what makes THEM happy. Marriage is no requirement. Kids are no requirement. It is THEIR life. And politics aside, it is no fathers dream for their daughter to live out their life as a subservient house wife to some dolt right winger. I'd rather them be successful and independent vs that.

Is the message that you tell yourself is that your life is failure if not married? I mean, I'm literally arguing FOR you here :oldlol:


I'd much rather see my daughter get married and be submissive to the right man who takes care of her.... than be run through by 54.8 dudes on average.

[Bill Gates]

I'd much rather see my daughter get married and be submissive to the right man who takes care of her.... than be run through by 54.8 dudes on average.
Your dream for your daughter would be to grow up and serve someone like you who believes all women are insane bipolar crazy? :oldlol:

You are the problem. Not them.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Your dream for your daughter would be to grow up and serve someone like you who believes all women are insane bipolar crazy? :oldlol:

You are the problem. Not them.



Ok, since we've finally discovered that I'm the problem... please explain why feminism is needed in 2025?

Your side has clearly won the battle and liberated women from their traditional roles.... So why is it still needed in 2025?


Where is the oppression coming from now?

[Bill Gates]

Ok, since we've finally discovered that I'm the problem... please explain why feminism is needed in 2025?

Your side has clearly won the battle and liberated women from their traditional roles.... So why is it still needed in 2025?


Where is the oppression coming from now?

Now the voice of oppression is coming from you. You are oppressed by feminism. There are no threads in here stating women are oppressed. I mean, I'm sure some woman somewhere is being oppressed, by I'm not in here crying foul, you are. I was just explaining to you why women no longer aspire to your house slave.

[Bill Gates]

Times are rapidly changing, and they always have. Relatively speaking it wasn't long ago that blacks were slaves. Our entire society is now built around smart phones that didn't even exist 20 years ago. AI is coming, robots are coming, DNA edits are coming. Society has evolved. And now some of you are the old miserable fogies who are in resentment that time didn't magically stand still in the 1950s. Evolve and progress with the times, or get left behind.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Now the voice of oppression is coming from you. You are oppressed by feminism. There are no threads in here stating women are oppressed. I mean, I'm sure some woman somewhere is being oppressed, by I'm not in here crying foul, you are. I was just explaining to you why women no longer aspire to your house slave.


So now I'm oppressed?

we get all the benefits and don't have to deal with the headache... no oppression over here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbhsHJBqDc4



Yea women don't aspire to be traditional and thus they are less happy as a result.

[Bill Gates]

we get all the benefits and don't have to deal with the headache... no oppression over here.

So you are happier unmarried, you don't have to deal with the headache, not oppressed, ect. That is basically what I have been telling you in here :oldlol:

You don't have to be married.

So why are you also throwing a fit over marriage rates and posting Candace Owens whining about feminism? makes no sense.

I think you need to reevaluate your logic on this.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Times are rapidly changing, and they always have. Relatively speaking it wasn't long ago that blacks were slaves. Our entire society is now built around smart phones that didn't even exist 20 years ago. AI is coming, robots are coming, DNA edits are coming. Society has evolved. And now some of you are the old miserable fogies who are in resentment that time didn't magically stand still in the 1950s. Evolve and progress with the times, or get left behind.

And you'll be there as a cheerleader the whole way through....


The sad thing is you still think all this is natural evolution and there hasn't been any propaganda influence.

The best way to bring about the communist/socialist utopia you leftists dream of is to attack and dismantle the nuclear family.



Karl Marx said as much In the Communist Manifesto of 1848, in which he called for the abolition of the family. The family was already absent among the proletariat, Marx and his co-author Friedrich Engels wrote, and among the bourgeoisie, the family was a mere “money relation.”

Most importantly, Marx said that communism would ensure that children would be educated by the state and not by their parents. Communists, he wrote in the Manifesto, would “rescue education from the influence of the ruling class.” The making of the “New Man” was the priority, and the family was an obstacle.



I'd love to explain in further detail... but if you've already bought into every woke piece of propaganda there is to buy into .... I'd be wasting my time.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So you are happier unmarried, you don't have to deal with the headache, not oppressed, ect. That is basically what I have been telling you in here :oldlol:

You don't have to be married.

So why are you also throwing a fit over marriage rates and posting Candace Owens whining about feminism? makes no sense.

I think you need to reevaluate your logic on this.



I'm arguing over Leftist Logic in regards to society as a whole... which btw got shot the f*ck down with Trump getting reelected.

You make it about personal experience.... Always have in regards to every political debate.

I think you need to get out of your own bubble for a change and realize not everybody agrees with the lies you've bought into.

[Bill Gates]

If you prefer being unmarried then it is YOU that is attacking the nuclear family :oldlol:

Your takes contradict itself. You don't want to be married, don't want to "deal with that headache" ect.


There are roughly 62 million married couples in the US btw, more than any other time in history.

[Baller234]

Your dream for your daughter would be to grow up and serve someone like you who believes all women are insane bipolar crazy? :oldlol:

You are the problem. Not them.

Yea god forbid someone suggest that women might be crazy. :oldlol:

Definitely means you're a sexist pig.

[Bill Gates]

Right, if you guys believe all women are crazy, then you should be fine not being married :confusedshrug:

What am I missing here? :oldlol:

You guys don't want marriage, you want to run around fcking pornstars like your idol Trump, and you know what, there is nothing wrong with that! But you need to own it instead of pointing at women for not being married.

[jstern]

@Dooms I am not going to piece apart that long post with various pics from TV shows. My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

Ask yourself this, would you want to be a "house wife" and sit around all day watching soap operas for the rest of your life, spending your spouses money when he wants to give you some if that meant you were a bit happier? Or would you rather be the one calling all the shots and changing the world?

Can you imagine, another low IQ person who wants to be in charge and craves power over others.

Also, the average person, the majority, as they get older, the more they care about being happy, and less about success, material things that they can't take with them after they died. They do not give less of a shit about being happy.

You might be a psycho.

[Bill Gates]

Focus on "material things" drops off yes, which is different than happiness. Children care about personal happiness the most, then as you age you start to prioritize other things. Political stances start to manifest in your 30s, then family and relationships after, getting involve with your local community, charity work, etc.

Your take is actually the low IQ one that lacks depth in the human psyche.

[Bill Gates]

Also happiness in itself is subjective as hell. All studies and polls around it are questionable. There is no correct way to gauge it.

[Meticode]

Also happiness in itself is subjective as hell. All studies and polls around it are questionable. There is no correct way to gauge it.

Pretty true. I think you have to find a balance. Most people deal with hardship at some point in their life. Having family or people that care about you to help you is huge. There's almost no consistently sad person I've met more in my life than an elderly man or woman that recently lost their spouse of 40 or 50 years. And if they don't have sons or daughters or grandkids to help me through it they're extremely depressed.

I'm a big balance person and I try not to lean too far to one side. Hell, the most natural thing you can consume (water) can kill you if you have too much of it. So too much of anything can have negative effects. Humans define themselves through joy and misery and a truly joyful person won't understand the meaning or value of happiness unless they do have sadness or misery in their life somewhat. It makes you respect both sides.

I remember when my ex-wife was confused why I wanted "alone" time because in the beginning she was clingy to me. She was almost offended that I didn't want to spend as much time as I could with her. The best way I explained it is, "When I'm with you I cherish my time with you and enjoy it. Being with you makes me also in turn look forward to my alone time. And when I'm alone I will miss you, but in the same thought I appreciate being alone in the moment while looking forward to spending time with you. It's an on-going cycle.

Happiness is subjective, but you have to understand sadness and misery to have respect and appreciation for it.

Imagine if we lived forever or hundreds of years? We wouldn't get anything done. People would become even more complacent than they do now because they figure "Well I have hundreds of years to do whatever I want." and don't get me wrong people like that already exist, but I think it would be a bigger issue. There wouldn't be an urgency.

The fact that we don't have infinite time is a key component to why we find purpose in our life or meaning. Our time is finite. And through that finite time people try to search for happiness very subjectively to what they think will make them happy.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Right, if you guys believe all women are crazy, then you should be fine not being married :confusedshrug:

What am I missing here? :oldlol:

You guys don't want marriage, you want to run around fcking pornstars like your idol Trump, and you know what, there is nothing wrong with that! But you need to own it instead of pointing at women for not being married.


Every immoral behavior you can think of is celebrated by the Left is what you are missing.

Conservatives are not going to be perfect like Jesus... but we strive to be more conservative and don't celebrate our liberal tendencies like the left does.

There is something wrong with watching porn and hooking up with a bunch of women, regardless if it's the standard of society. There should be a sense of shame in that.

There is an element of Toxic Masculinity that should be addressed..... But the Left doesn't call out the Toxic Behaviors of women (unless they're conservative).

That's what you are missing.



The woke element of society embraces every sinful behavior you can think of. Where is the Shame?

Liberalism at it's core is simply a rebellion against the Traditional Conservative Values.... that's all it is.

And if we point out these shameful behaviors... you're now racist, sexist, or hateful.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6C45q5he2A

[Bill Gates]

Pretty true. I think you have to find a balance. Most people deal with hardship at some point in their life. Having family or people that care about you to help you is huge. There's almost no consistently sad person I've met more in my life than an elderly man or woman that recently lost their spouse of 40 or 50 years. And if they don't have sons or daughters or grandkids to help me through it they're extremely depressed.

I'm a big balance person and I try not to lean too far to one side. Hell, the most natural thing you can consume (water) can kill you if you have too much of it. So too much of anything can have negative effects. Humans define themselves through joy and misery and a truly joyful person won't understand the meaning or value of happiness unless they do have sadness or misery in their life somewhat. It makes you respect both sides.

I remember when my ex-wife was confused why I wanted "alone" time because in the beginning she was clingy to me. She was almost offended that I didn't want to spend as much time as I could with her. The best way I explained it is, "When I'm with you I cherish my time with you and enjoy it. Being with you makes me also in turn look forward to my alone time. And when I'm alone I will miss you, but in the same thought I appreciate being alone in the moment while looking forward to spending time with you. It's an on-going cycle.

Happiness is subjective, but you have to understand sadness and misery to have respect and appreciation for it.

Imagine if we lived forever or hundreds of years? We wouldn't get anything done. People would become even more complacent than they do now because they figure "Well I have hundreds of years to do whatever I want." and don't get me wrong people like that already exist, but I think it would be a bigger issue. There wouldn't be an urgency.

The fact that we don't have infinite time is a key component to why we find purpose in our life or meaning. Our time is finite. And through that finite time people try to search for happiness very subjectively to what they think will make them happy.

True stuff. Need the negative to appreciate the positive. yin yang

I think what were are seeing a lot of in today's society that many are unaware of, is comfort in misery. A lot of people go to a miserable place every day because it is what is comfortable to them. A lot of people spend their day venting politics all day and it doesn't make them happy, it does the opposite, it makes them angry. But they continue to do it day after day because it is what has become normal to their brain. I feel like the internet makes our lives much easier overall, but it is also a never ending source of depression. Humans tend to focus on the bad much more than the good. How many threads on this forum are celebrating something happy? Not many in comparison to the threads whining about the world.

[Bill Gates]

Conservatives are not going to be perfect like Jesus...
No because then they would be "woke". Jesus was as woke as it gets. And loved all, even sinners. If fact that is what he died for, all the sinners out there. You included. If you believe that wokeness is about embracing sin? You are being dishonest. More about forgiveness. Don't worry you'll figure it out on your judgement day.

[Doomsday Dallas]

No because then they would be "woke". Jesus was as woke as it gets. And loved all, even sinners. If fact that is what he died for, all the sinners out there. You included. If you believe that wokeness is about embracing sin? You are being dishonest. More about forgiveness. Don't worry you'll figure it out on your judgement day.

That’s your own misconception of Conservatives and Christianity.

Maybe your beef is with Alt. Right

Jesus hated sin…. And would ask for you to repent.

He wouldn’t encourage you to keep doing what you’re doing, and he certainly wouldn’t be cool with abortion.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Try reading the Scriptures sometime… Jesus would want you do that.

Start with Timothy 2:9 to 2:15 (That’s New Testament btw)

[Bill Gates]

Jesus was extremely left leaning. He was the original progressive. He was definitely "woke".

The Bible itself does not address abortion, which is an insanely grey topic and not black and white at all. Just like immigration is. Just like gun control is. Just like the economy is. None of these things are a flat out "right or wrong" and all of them are very complex. I wish more people understood that instead of just blanket throwing "THAT'S BAD!" at things. On abortion though, we at least know that Jesus would be forgiving of it.

[Bill Gates]

Try reading the Scriptures sometime… Jesus would want you do that.

Start with Timothy 2:9 to 2:15 (That’s New Testament btw)

So you believe that the Bible wants you to oppress women? That was not how Jesus himself approached women.

https://www.franciscanmedia.org/st-anthony-messenger/jesus-extraordinary-treatment-of-women/

Also you are taking that out of context to some degree. Women are to submit to Men and Men are to submit to God. Meaning women should not marry porn addicted self absorbed godless dumb asses which is a huge part of the issue in today's marriage. You just want a woman to submit to you without you having to submit yourself.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Jesus was extremely left leaning. He was the original progressive. He was definitely "woke".

He wouldn’t promote any of the shit the woke left promotes… zero.

Not to mention that wokeness strongly opposes Christianity in the first place.

The message coming from the left is do not repent.


Man, you need to a bible study if you think Jesus was cool with any of the shit going on today.

And yes, life begins at conception, plenty of stories about babies in the womb.

[Bill Gates]

Disagree completely, he would be challenging the norms today just like he did then. He would absolutely be for open borders, no human owns land. He would not want everyone carrying AR15s around, he would be against guns in general. On abortion, I personally feel it is a case by case issue. Sometimes it is warranted sometimes not. Most of the time it does not prevent life but rather delays it for a better time.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Disagree completely, he would be challenging the norms today just like he did then. He would absolutely be for open borders, no human owns land. He would not want everyone carrying AR15s around, he would be against guns in general. On abortion, I personally feel it is a case by case issue. Sometimes it is warranted sometimes not. Most of the time it does not prevent life but rather delays it for a better time.

We are under grace currently through Christ…

There’s an entire history in the Old Testament in which Christ would advise people to read. “What do the scriptures say?” Is what Jesus often told people.

Do you think Jesus told people to dismiss the Old Testament?

When you are not under the grace of Christ… you get Sodom & Gomorrah.


So if Jesus was pro Old Testament, he’d not be down with what humanity has evolved into. You’re right, he would be challenging the societal norms and definitely would NOT take part in the daily gay pride parade.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-immigration.html

There’s your Biblical stance on Borders.

[Bill Gates]

Jesus would be very pleased to see what humanity has evolved into, which is dramatically better than what it was during his time, where he was crucified for his beliefs.

Murder, rape, pedophilia, everything were 10 fold then what they are now. He likely wouldn't care the slightest about homosexuality which is barely even mentioned at all in the Bible because it is largely unimportant in comparison to other atrocities that were common then.

He would be unhappy though, to see you using his name to push your greedy agendas.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Jesus would be very pleased to see what humanity has evolved into, which is dramatically better than what it was during his time, where he was crucified for his beliefs.

Murder, rape, pedophilia, everything were 10 fold then what they are now. He likely wouldn't care the slightest about homosexuality which is barely even mentioned at all in the Bible because it is largely unimportant in comparison to other atrocities that were common then.

He would be unhappy though, to see you using his name to push your greedy agendas.

Very pleased? lol

Go read Revelations and come back to discuss what you gathered from it.

Jesus only comes back to wage war on the wickedness of the world, that’s all.

Pleased to deliver his wrath indeed.


I’m done with this discussion because now you’re either trolling or completely retarded…

[Baller234]

Disagree completely, he would be challenging the norms today just like he did then. He would absolutely be for open borders, no human owns land. He would not want everyone carrying AR15s around, he would be against guns in general. On abortion, I personally feel it is a case by case issue. Sometimes it is warranted sometimes not. Most of the time it does not prevent life but rather delays it for a better time.

This left wing double talk is really something else.

"We outright refuse to jail violent criminals and keep them off the street, BUT ALSO you shouldn't have a gun to protect yourself..."

"No one is entitled to land, BUT ALSO you're an evil white colonizer who stole this land from natives..."

"Borders shouldn't be enforced, BUT ALSO white colonizers had no business entering someone else's land..."

[Bill Gates]

Very pleased? lol

Go read Revelations and come back to discuss what you gathered from it.

Jesus only comes back to wage war on the wickedness of the world, that’s all.

Pleased to deliver his wrath indeed.


I’m done with this discussion because now you’re either trolling or completely retarded…
Jesus doesn't wage war on anyone :facepalm

And of course he would be pleased, he is Jesus. You think he'd spend his days here whining about liberals behind a computer screen? No, he'd be teaching everyone to forgive each other and not focus on each other's differences. He'd be telling you not to "HATE".

You have missed his entire reason for existing.

[Baller234]

Jesus doesn't wage war on anyone :facepalm

And of course he would be pleased, he is Jesus. You think he'd spend his days here whining about liberals behind a computer screen? No, he'd be teaching everyone to forgive each other and not focus on each other's differences. He'd be telling you not to "HATE".

You have missed his entire reason for existing.

Lol as if liberals don't hate Trump and his supporters with a fiery passion.

You admitted that your deepest desire is to attain more power. Not peace, not happiness, but power. The need to feel seen and heard. The need to feel in charge.

You're the last person who should be talking.

[Bill Gates]

Lol as if liberals don't hate Trump and his supporters with a fiery passion.

You admitted that your deepest desire is to attain more power. Not peace, not happiness, but power. The need to feel seen and heard. The need to feel in charge.

You're the last person who should be talking.

I said humanity's desire is far more complex than just happiness. "Peace" is desired by most, even Hitler believed he was bringing a peaceful future to humanity.

But no human is free of sinful thoughts. Yes, I am guilty of hating others.

[Baller234]

I said humanity's desire is far more complex than just happiness. "Peace" is desired by most, even Hitler believed he was bringing a peaceful future to humanity.

But no human is free of sinful thoughts. Yes, I am guilty of hating others.

No you said that above all else people want to be in charge and want to feel important.

Which is something only a deeply insecure person who's not satisfied with his life would say.

[Bill Gates]

No you said that above all else people want to be in charge and want to feel important.

Which is something only a deeply insecure person who's not satisfied with his life would say.

That was in regards to housewives not wanting to live under the rule of a man, happy or not. Not saying women literally want to control the entire world lol. They want the ability to go out and make a difference in the world. Have a meaningful life beyond doing your laundry.

[Baller234]

That was in regards to housewives not wanting to live under the rule of a man, happy or not. Not saying women literally want to control the entire world lol. They want the ability to go out and make a difference in the world. Have a meaningful life beyond doing your laundry.

Really? I thought you were making a general statement about adults in general both male and female.


My point is that "happiness" is not what drives most adults, male or female. We all want to be IN CHARGE. We all want to make a difference in the world, we all want to feel important. The older we get, the less we give a shit about being "happy" and the more we care about being "IMPORTANT".

[Bill Gates]

Really? I thought you were making a general statement about adults in general both male and female.

Yes that is both male and female. Females want to be in charge and feel important like men do. Humans care about more than just being "happy". They want to be important and in control (of themselves).

[Bill Gates]

When you are on your death bed, you are going to want to look back and think that your life made a difference in the world, for the better. It is really hard to acquire that feeling as a house keeper. It isn't really a feeling of "happiness", it is a feeling of "importance". That it is something most of us seek. Men and women. We want our lives to mean something.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Jesus doesn't wage war on anyone :facepalm

And of course he would be pleased, he is Jesus. You think he'd spend his days here whining about liberals behind a computer screen? No, he'd be teaching everyone to forgive each other and not focus on each other's differences. He'd be telling you not to "HATE".

You have missed his entire reason for existing.


You should go rewrite the entire book of Revelations:


Rev 19:11 - And Jesus came down from Heaven and was so pleased with what he saw that he forfeited his reign as King, decided to not to have the battle of Armageddon, and saw no reason to establish a new Earth.

[Bill Gates]

You should go rewrite the entire book of Revelations:


Rev 19:11 - And Jesus came down from Heaven and was so pleased with what he saw that he forfeited his reign as King, decided to not to have the battle of Armageddon, and saw no reason to establish a new Earth.


The most unfortunate aspect of this misreading, as Driscoll’s comment graphically reveals, is that the “pride fighter” portrait of Jesus easily subverts the Jesus of the Gospels who out of love chooses to die for enemies rather than use his power against them and who commands his followers to do the same (see e.g. Mt 5:43-45; Lk 6:27-36). In fact, if you read these passages carefully you’ll notice that Jesus makes loving enemies and refusing all violence the prerequisite for being considered a child of God! Loving enemies like Jesus commands
https://pcpj.org/2021/08/06/will-jesus-wage-a-literal-war-according-to-revelation/



Here is a Bible verse for you straight from God himself:

"You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against any of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord."

"Love thy Neighbor" is echoed throughout the entire Bible, it is the core message. The Golden rule. But you ignore it and read "we must hate illegals and f@gs and women must obey all men".

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://pcpj.org/2021/08/06/will-jesus-wage-a-literal-war-according-to-revelation/



Here is a Bible verse for you straight from God himself:

"You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against any of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord."

"Love thy Neighbor" is echoed throughout the entire Bible, it is the core message. The Golden rule. But you ignore it and read "we must hate illegals and f@gs and women must obey all men".


Rev 20:10 - and Jesus commanded the people to love thy neighbor so much that you are to support the very wickedness they engage in. Don’t discourage women from having high body counts, but encourage an even higher number. And Jesus instructed the world that Man can be Woman and Woman can be Man. And Jesus instructed the people to do away with Conservative Values and Promote Liberal Pride across the Nations.


Nobody is hating the sinner like you think they are, just the sin. Give it up already.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Speaking of Sin:

John 16:9 states, "of sin, because they believe not on me". This verse, in the context of Jesus' promise to send the Holy Spirit, explains that the Holy Spirit will convict the world of sin because people do not believe in Jesus. The Holy Spirit will reveal the nature of sin as unbelief in Jesus, demonstrating that the world's sin is rooted in its rejection of Jesus' teachings and his person.

[Meticode]

Yes that is both male and female. Females want to be in charge and feel important like men do. Humans care about more than just being "happy". They want to be important and in control (of themselves).

I can agree with this and it's a disturbing trend. Men and women have set aside our natural purpose (to spread our species and life) to try to find deeper meaning of purpose when in reality the most purposeful thing you can do is start a family, raise a family to be better people than you were and to push human civilization forward. I think a large part of men and women who take on those traditional roles would be much happier. Not everyone, but majority.

[Bill Gates]

I can agree with this and it's a disturbing trend. Men and women have set aside our natural purpose (to spread our species and life) to try to find deeper meaning of purpose when in reality the most purposeful thing you can do is start a family, raise a family to be better people than you were and to push human civilization forward. I think a large part of men and women who take on those traditional roles would be much happier. Not everyone, but majority.

I think this is mostly still happening. Civilization is progressing and moving forward. Go back just 200 years and we are in a much worse society full of slavery and 1/8th of the population. Go back to just the 1990s and it is twice the crime and murder rate. Technology is driving us to a better place, but we are scared because change is naturally scary to most humans.

I think the internet gives everyone the false sense that the world is turning for the worst. Now every violent or dumb thing a human does is captured on video and trends on social media for all to see, and we are not used to that yet.

[warriorfan]

Can you imagine, another low IQ person who wants to be in charge and craves power over others.

Also, the average person, the majority, as they get older, the more they care about being happy, and less about success, material things that they can't take with them after they died. They do not give less of a shit about being happy.

You might be a psycho.

Dude is a legit low iq psychopath. Thank god his testosterone levels are so low it stays relegated to making terrible posts on a forum all day.

[Meticode]

I think the internet gives everyone the false sense that the world is turning for the worst.

Or the world just isn't turning at all because of the abundance of time people waste on the internet. Look at our conversation here. Look at all the posts, add all those minutes up of typing or tapping away at your screen. And for what? For a trivial conversation online that you won't remember in a week or a month? From the doom scrollers, to the Instagrammers, to the people who endlessly argue every single day on X just because they'd rather do that than figure out a productive hobby.

For me it's not that the internet spreads negativity more than anything. It's the fact that we'd rather look at our screens while eating dinner than to look at our spouses faces in conversation. It's the fact that countless parents park their kids in front of a phone or tablet because they simply are lazy and don't want to entertain their own child. They'd rather have the negativity of the world wide web teach them about the world. They'd rather let their kids turn into teenagers and for their sons to consume porn at an early age and for them to become dependent on porn for the dopamine hit of dealing with their anxieties about school and social groups. Then when that son becomes a young man and he has no idea what to expect from his partner or how to treat her because his birds and the bees talk wasn't done by his father or mother, but by PornHub.com.

The internet is a façade that humanity willingly pulls over their face to distract themselves from their own failures as a person. They bury their heads deeper out of boredom.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMqFLDUABkE

Had to watch Predators again last night... They had a great cast, but missed the mark.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Ok... so we've gone from Predators, to Wokeness, To women, To Politics, To the Meaning of Life, To Religion, To Technology & The Internet

I might have to revisit all these topics.... right here in this thread.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I remember when my ex-wife was confused why I wanted "alone" time because in the beginning she was clingy to me. She was almost offended that I didn't want to spend as much time as I could with her. The best way I explained it is, "When I'm with you I cherish my time with you and enjoy it. Being with you makes me also in turn look forward to my alone time. And when I'm alone I will miss you, but in the same thought I appreciate being alone in the moment while looking forward to spending time with you. It's an on-going cycle.

excellent post Meticode....

every man has had to deal with this issue...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_1cVOmW_EU



It's not necessarily monogamy that's unnatural... It's too much time together that's unnatural.

Funny joke that's true: "For every hot women you see, there's a man out there that's become completely tired of her"

If you can strike a perfect balance with space & alone time.... Honeymoon phase could last forever.

It never works out that way though.

[Meticode]

Ok... so we've gone from Predators, to Wokeness, To women, To Politics, To the Meaning of Life, To Religion, To Technology & The Internet

I might have to revisit all these topics.... right here in this thread.

https://media.tenor.com/JQhq91xv1oAAAAAM/were-going-to-keep-this-going-chris-rock.gif

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://media.tenor.com/JQhq91xv1oAAAAAM/were-going-to-keep-this-going-chris-rock.gif



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij7Aorussk0

[Bill Gates]

Or the world just isn't turning at all because of the abundance of time people waste on the internet. Look at our conversation here. Look at all the posts, add all those minutes up of typing or tapping away at your screen. And for what? For a trivial conversation online that you won't remember in a week or a month? From the doom scrollers, to the Instagrammers, to the people who endlessly argue every single day on X just because they'd rather do that than figure out a productive hobby.

For me it's not that the internet spreads negativity more than anything. It's the fact that we'd rather look at our screens while eating dinner than to look at our spouses faces in conversation. It's the fact that countless parents park their kids in front of a phone or tablet because they simply are lazy and don't want to entertain their own child. They'd rather have the negativity of the world wide web teach them about the world. They'd rather let their kids turn into teenagers and for their sons to consume porn at an early age and for them to become dependent on porn for the dopamine hit of dealing with their anxieties about school and social groups. Then when that son becomes a young man and he has no idea what to expect from his partner or how to treat her because his birds and the bees talk wasn't done by his father or mother, but by PornHub.com.

The internet is a façade that humanity willingly pulls over their face to distract themselves from their own failures as a person. They bury their heads deeper out of boredom.
Yeah agree, I think most of the globe suffers screen addiction now. And it is damaging. The only thing I will say is that I would take it for plummeting homicide and crime rates, which is what we've had over the centuries. Screens are really a first world problem.

The places where the world is actually awful would be South American areas that are overrun by cartels, or places of war and turmoil, Gaza, Ukraine, etc. Those are the places Jesus would visit, not the US. People living in those situations would gladly have a dinner full a screens instead.

But it is important to keep in mind that the global homicide rate, war death, etc has plummeted over time. Even with the cartel violence and current wars. I mean like 80 million people died in WW2. Ukraine and Gaza might be like 1 million.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Yeah agree, I think most of the globe suffers screen addiction now. And it is damaging. The only thing I will say is that I would take it for plummeting homicide and crime rates, which is what we've had over the centuries. Screens are really a first world problem.

The places where the world is actually awful would be South American areas that are overrun by cartels, or places of war and turmoil, Gaza, Ukraine, etc. Those are the places Jesus would visit, not the US. People living in those situations would gladly have a dinner full a screens instead.

But it is important to keep in mind that the global homicide rate, war death, etc has plummeted over time. Even with the cartel violence and current wars. I mean like 80 million people died in WW2. Ukraine and Gaza might be like 1 million.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLacrhDAFVY

[Bill Gates]

Watched about the first 5 minutes. It is fascinating when someone has a death experience like that, the stories they bring back. With this one though, you can tell she is reading a script, although probably written by herself, hopefully.

The screen one is complex though, she is talking about girls looking at Instagram. But most of us are on screens all day because it our job. I don't know about you all, but like 99% of my posting in here is from being bored at work. I can not leave this screen, it is my salary, my food, my rent, etc.

I will say though, it will really suck when I get my life review and Jesus shows me how long I was in front of a computer, even though it is work.

[Doomsday Dallas]

If the above video is true… It goes to show that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

You can hail the real Bill Gates as some kind of hero… but his advancements in technology have destroyed millions of souls and crushed our humanity.

It’s spiritual warfare and nobody’s innocent in this game… all are in need of salvation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfmWurRgmMM

[Bill Gates]

Definitely disagree that souls are "destroyed" over it. Souls are eternal. But if it is "spiritual warfare" like you say? It is a personal war for each of us. And here we are, on screens. Posting YouTube videos. Working ourselves up over politics. When we could be doing something real.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Definitely disagree that souls are "destroyed" over it. Souls are eternal. But if it is "spiritual warfare" like you say? It is a personal war for each of us. And here we are, on screens. Posting YouTube videos. Working ourselves up over politics. When we could be doing something real.

Ephesians 6:12 means that Christians' struggle is not primarily against other people, but against unseen spiritual forces of evil, including demonic powers and rulers. These forces seek to influence governments, cultures, and individuals, promoting sin, lies, and rebellion against God. The passage emphasizes that Christians are in a spiritual battle, not just a physical one, and need to be equipped with God's armor to resist these evil influences

[Bill Gates]

Okay figured out that video you posted is an AI generated fake.

Here is the same story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGzRfmMxePY


And here is a YouTube Channel full of similar fakes:

https://www.youtube.com/@faithfulfruit

They are all AI generated, the images, voice, everything. And all of them are politically motivated. One of them is even about Elon Musk :oldlol:

This is why AI is dangerous.



These type of death experiences do happen though, and I think if you want a real one, you need a video of someone who actually talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DbqXXF_88Q

Here is one I just found, a real human talking about it.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Okay figured out that video you posted is an AI generated fake.

Here is the same story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGzRfmMxePY


And here is a YouTube Channel full of similar fakes:

https://www.youtube.com/@faithfulfruit

They are all AI generated, the images, voice, everything. And all of them are politically motivated. One of them is even about Elon Musk :oldlol:

This is why AI is dangerous.



These type of death experiences do happen though, and I think if you want a real one, you need a video of someone who actually talking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DbqXXF_88Q

Here is one I just found, a real human talking about it.



Yea you had to investigate that one…. Because Lord Forbid someone sees Jesus or Satan in a NDE experience… then you might have to convert

I knew it was AI myself…. But the message is still legit anyway you slice it.

Technology is destroying humanity and it’s spiritual nature… not improving it. Even a child’s Disney cartoon Wall-E can foresee that fact.

[Bill Gates]

Yea you had to investigate that one…. Because Lord Forbid someone sees Jesus or Satan in a NDE experience… then you might have to convert

I knew it was AI myself…. But the message is still legit anyway you slice it.

Technology is destroying humanity and it’s spiritual nature… not improving it. Even a child’s Disney cartoon Wall-E can foresee that fact.
Convert? I believe in Jesus

Shame on you for knowingly spreading fake news to push an agenda though

[Bill Gates]

I am Protestant. Attend church with my family regularly.

[Doomsday Dallas]

lol… could’ve fooled me based on previous posts you’ve made.

I think what you meant to say is that you’ve been invited to church, but do not believe Jesus is God, nor the stories of the Bible.

[Bill Gates]

I thought my posting in here made it pretty clear my stances on Jesus. Who is much more about love than war. I think you are just wanting to lump me into the stereotype of what you imagine a leftist to be. An Atheist. But I am a left leaning Protestant.

At any accord, you do not need to believe me if you don't want to.

Also I generally agree with the message in that fake video. It is just right from the start I could tell it was scripted. It did not feel authentic. Just like the Twitter post you linked that was fake click bait about Washington.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I thought my posting in here made it pretty clear my stances on Jesus. Who is much more about love than war. I think you are just wanting to lump me into the stereotype of what you imagine a leftist to be. An Atheist. But I am a left leaning Protestant.

At any accord, you do not need to believe me if you don't want to.

Also I generally agree with the message in that fake video. It is just right from the start I could tell it was scripted. It did not feel authentic. Just like the Twitter post you linked that was fake click bait about Washington.


No…. Your stances on Jesus are not clear.

Is he the Son of God or not? Is he God incarnate or no? Did he die for the Sins of the World?

Did Jesus have a conversation with Satan or no? Do you believe Satan exists?

Is the Bible bullshit or no?


None of these things are what you believe in or else you would declare it to be the case.

[Bill Gates]

No…. Your stances on Jesus are not clear.

Is he the Son of God or not? Yes Is he God incarnate or no? Kind of Did he die for the Sins of the World Yes?

Did Jesus have a conversation with Satan or no? I don't know that one Do you believe Satan exists? Yes

Is the Bible bullshit or no? Mostly No, but it was written by men and is flawed and full of contradictions


None of these things are what you believe in or else you would declare it to be the case.

answers in the quote

[Doomsday Dallas]

I thought my posting in here made it pretty clear my stances on Jesus. Who is much more about love than war.

Please stop the preaching… I can’t take it lol.

You’re so radical with your extreme Christian beliefs.

[Bill Gates]

I will say, I do not believe that the ONLY way to God is through Jesus. I do respect other religions, and only around 30% of the world's population believes in Jesus. I mostly believe that all religions are formed from the same source, which is probably a progressive take to you.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I will say, I do not believe that the ONLY way to God is through Jesus. I do respect other religions, and only around 30% of the world's population believes in Jesus. I mostly believe that all religions are formed from the same source, which is probably a progressive take to you.

Yea…. That’s Oprah’s take too.

There are other paths to God is about as hypocritical as it gets.

Otherwise there’s no reason for Jesus to make the sacrifice.

Ultimately God will judge nonbelievers and other faiths accordingly… but they ain’t getting through the door unless they get through Jesus.

Jesus is the only Door.


Do I sometimes wish that wasn’t the case? Yea I do, but it’s not.



Secondly ….

Yes, the Bible records instances where Jesus has conversations with Satan, particularly during the temptation of Christ in the wilderness. These conversations, described in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke, detail how Satan tempts Jesus to deny his divine authority and serve him instead of God


While the Bible was written by man, those men were possessed by the Holy Spirit. That is why it is the Word of God.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So you’ve twisted the religion to fit your own liberal narrative.

The Bible is flawed, and Jesus is not the only way…. And he is kinda God in the flesh.


Which ever church you are going to…. Find a different one.

[Bill Gates]

I believe Jesus made the sacrifice for everyone, and he loves and forgives everyone. I believe the path to Satan is the rejection of Jesus and God but most importantly it is the rejection of love. Which isn't what most non-believers are.

A loving soul is a loving soul. That is all God cares about. Love. And that is at the core of the Bible itself.

If you hate others, including other religions or beliefs, you are going against God's will.

"LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"

[Doomsday Dallas]

I believe Jesus made the sacrifice for everyone, and he loves and forgives everyone. I believe the path to Satan is the rejection of Jesus and God but most importantly it is the rejection of love. Which isn't what most non-believers are.

A loving soul is a loving soul. That is all God cares about. Love. And that is at the core of the Bible itself.

If you hate others, including other religions or beliefs, you are going against God's will.

"LOVE THY NEIGHBOR"

There is a difference between hating liberalism and liberals themselves.

Satan is author of confusion, so hopefully you can recognize the difference.

Conservative values are based off Christian principles, so to hate Conservatism would be somewhat blasphemous don’t you think?


If a Trump supporter walks into a sea of liberals they will be harassed.

If a libtard walks into a sea of MAGA supporters, they will be safe.

There’s countless videos proving my point.

[Phoenix]

Man, the segway from a movie about Predators to whatever the last half 7-8 pages is, legendary. :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Man, the segway from a movie about Predators to whatever the last half 7-8 pages is, legendary. :oldlol:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYGLtNCiaiU

[Phoenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYGLtNCiaiU

I (re)watched this two days ago, underrated entry in the series.

[Meticode]

I (re)watched this two days ago, underrated entry in the series.

Agreed. They could've made the movie so much better though. Lawrence Fishburne's character was such as waste. He could've been a badass, but he was a crazy nut. Also I wish they would've shown the Yuatja fighting some other aliens dropped in. For me it's either right there with Predator 2, or a notch below it. I loved the Yakuza fight scene. I wish it was more drawn out. Predator, Prey, Predator 2, Predators, I don't count or acknowledge the AVP movies or The Predator. Killer of Killers I don't group in those because they were more like short stories than a movie.

[Phoenix]

Agreed. They could've made the movie so much better though. Lawrence Fishburne's character was such as waste. He could've been a badass, but he was a crazy nut. Also I wish they would've shown the Yuatja fighting some other aliens dropped in. For me it's either right there with Predator 2, or a notch below it. I loved the Yakuza fight scene. I wish it was more drawn out. Predator, Prey, Predator 2, Predators, I don't count or acknowledge the AVP movies or The Predator. Killer of Killers I don't group in those because they were more like short stories than a movie.

I don't either. i liked Fishbourne's character as he was, but I would have preferred that he joined the crew as opposed to how it played out.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJod_1xINAc

[Meticode]

How Peter Cullen (voice of Optimus Prime) came up wit the Predator's vocalization and clicks...


https://youtu.be/gpjhI-eRE6c?si=ZDz1SVQXDaENSLDT