View Full Version : Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:58 AM
will we be pulled in if israel proceeds? of course we will. just put it on our national credit card.
https://media.tenor.com/cJRcMyUAiMcAAAAM/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit.gif
gas prices about to skyrocket like you've never seen. stay tuned, fellow americans...
Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/us/politics/iran-us-iraq-diplomats-middle-east.html)
Patrick Chewing
06-12-2025, 11:17 AM
diamenz, my boy, you're turning into blade. Not physically because he was confined to a wheelchair, but mentally with all your worrying. Take a chill pill.
diamenz
06-12-2025, 11:18 AM
diamenz, my boy, you're turning into blade. Not physically because he was confined to a wheelchair, but mentally with all your worrying. Take a chill pill.
you'll see.
Doomsday Dallas
06-12-2025, 07:52 PM
you'll see.
I'm with you diamenz...
Something is brewing... anyone in tune with the signs-of-the-times knows some $hit is about pop-off somewhere and it's not going to be pretty.
When you have Bane in office, anything can happen and something will happen...
$hit went down when he was #45, and $hit will go down 10X worse as #47
everyone will see.
Will it be the Axis of Evil event to finish out the Neocon agenda? I suspect that will be the case, but it could be something entirely different.
highwhey
06-12-2025, 08:00 PM
if trump had a backbone, he'd cut them off already.
diamenz
06-12-2025, 09:15 PM
they can go ahead and do it for all i care but they can do it their damn selves. not on our dollar and not on our body count.
https://i.ibb.co/6RJYk0mt/Screenshot-20250612-201258.png
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diamenz
06-12-2025, 09:19 PM
it's on. israel is striking iran. ww3 is now trending on x.
https://x.com/ExxAlerts
Netanyahu needs to be removed from power.
Patrick Chewing
06-12-2025, 09:52 PM
Netanyahu needs to be removed from power.
You support radical Islam and the oppression of the Iranian people.
You support radical Islam and the oppression of the Iranian people.
I thought you were anti-war :yaohappy:
Baller234
06-12-2025, 09:57 PM
I thought you were anti-war :yaohappy:
America isn't at war yet though.
America isn't at war yet though.
America funds Israel. And you're seriously unaware the US has been bombing Yemen under Trump?
Baller234
06-12-2025, 10:05 PM
America funds Israel. And you're seriously unaware the US has been bombing Yemen under Trump?
Uh, those were retaliatory attacks.
Uh, those were retaliatory attacks.
That's always the justification for war isn't it. Doesn't mean we weren't bombing Yemen. And still funding Israel's war with them.
Patrick Chewing
06-12-2025, 10:08 PM
I thought you were anti-war :yaohappy:
Dropping bombs on nuclear sites in Iran isn't a war. Nobody wants Iran to develop a nuke. They are the only country crazy enough to use it.
Just so we're clear, baller, since I'm sure it would have come up, Biden would have done the exact same shit in regards to Israel (he did while in office) and Yemen so I don't think Trump is some unique evil in terms of this situation. In fact to date, Biden has more Palestinian blood on his hands. Trump not supporting this bombing of Iran is a start, let's hope he cuts Israel off completely.
Dropping bombs on nuclear sites in Iran isn't a war. Nobody wants Iran to develop a nuke. They are the only country crazy enough to use it.
According to who? The US state department? Escalation is never good, people were killed which means Iran will retaliate.
Baller234
06-12-2025, 10:24 PM
That's always the justification for war isn't it. Doesn't mean we weren't bombing Yemen. And still funding Israel's war with them.
We launched missiles at the Houthis because they attacked our navy ships. That's not the same as starting a war. Lol America is not at "war" with Yemen.
If Israel's campaign in Iran jeopardizes our safety, or if Israel drags us into a war that goes against our own interests, then by all means you are free to post your thousand word essay.
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:29 PM
If Israel's campaign in Iran jeopardizes our safety, or if Israel drags us into a war that goes against our own interests, then by all means you are free to post your thousand word essay.
you'll have one yourself as well, won't you?
Baller234
06-12-2025, 10:31 PM
you'll have one yourself as well, won't you?
If America is dragged into an all out war that has potentially catastrophic consequences? You think I would support that?
highwhey
06-12-2025, 10:35 PM
you'll have one yourself as well, won't you?
:oldlol: one filled with wild mental gymnastics defending donnie
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:40 PM
If America is dragged into an all out war that has potentially catastrophic consequences? You think I would support that?
i do wonder to what extent you'd go to calling it out given your investment in israel, donald trump and the fact that you're also jewish.
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:41 PM
https://i.ibb.co/LXdsfjwG/Screenshot-20250612-213602.png
sure enough, hours later...
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:43 PM
iran's missle program is the wild card here. if it's as impressive as some have said it is, israelis better be hunkered down.
https://i.ibb.co/WbPHwZr/Screenshot-20250612-214151.png
Baller234
06-12-2025, 10:46 PM
i do wonder to what extent you'd go to calling it out given your investment in israel, donald trump and the fact that you're also jewish.
None of those things define me:
- I am an American, not an Israeli
- I am a Jew, not an Israeli
- Donald Trump is my president, not my God
I can assure you if Trump ever jeopardizes the safety or the standing of our country by endangering us with catastrophic war, I will have something to say about it.
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/gbSsJ53R/Screenshot-20250612-215009.png
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:54 PM
None of those things define me:
- I am an American, not an Israeli
- I am a Jew, not an Israeli
- Donald Trump is my president, not my God
I can assure you if Trump ever jeopardizes the safety or the standing of our country by endangering us with catastrophic war, I will have something to say about it.
i can respect that. :applause:
diamenz
06-12-2025, 10:56 PM
the troops we have spread out through the region are indeed sitting ducks rn.
https://i.ibb.co/S4jLV9DN/Screenshot-20250612-215555.png
highwhey
06-12-2025, 11:13 PM
None of those things define me:
- I am an American, not an Israeli
- I am a Jew, not an Israeli
- Donald Trump is my president, not my God
I can assure you if Trump ever jeopardizes the safety or the standing of our country by endangering us with catastrophic war, I will have something to say about it.
everything makes sense all of a sudden
jstern
06-12-2025, 11:14 PM
the troops we have spread out through the region are indeed sitting ducks rn.
https://i.ibb.co/S4jLV9DN/Screenshot-20250612-215555.png
That's probably exactly what Israel wants, for Iran to attack US troops, kill a bunch of Americans, who everyone knows are sitting ducks. That way, the US has an excuse to go to war against Iran.
Patrick Chewing
06-12-2025, 11:18 PM
According to who? The US state department? Escalation is never good, people were killed which means Iran will retaliate.
And how many people would Iran kill if they drop a nuke?
Baller234
06-12-2025, 11:19 PM
everything makes sense all of a sudden
Yes I know.
I have an extremely high IQ.
TheMan
06-12-2025, 11:27 PM
it's on. israel is striking iran. ww3 is now trending on x.
https://x.com/ExxAlerts
If Trump jumps in, he should be immediately removed from office. Let the Zionists fight their own wars, tired of this shit, making enemies all over the ME at the behest of the Zionists.
TheMan
06-12-2025, 11:30 PM
Dropping bombs on nuclear sites in Iran isn't a war. Nobody wants Iran to develop a nuke. They are the only country crazy enough to use it.
This is rich, we're the only nation that has actually used them, on civilians, when that nation was already in the stages of surrendering.
We can't be trusted!
highwhey
06-12-2025, 11:43 PM
Yes I know.
I have an extremely high IQ.
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Baller234
06-12-2025, 11:57 PM
This is rich, we're the only nation that has actually used them, on civilians, when that nation was already in the stages of surrendering.
We can't be trusted!
No country can truly be trusted, which is why it's important for America and the west to remain on top.
Say what you will about America but I imagine we're a lot more "trustworthy" than Iran. You're talking about a country that lives under extreme religious doctrine. The real kind, not the type you joke about in America. If they're willing to subjugate their own people, I imagine they're capable of a lot worse when it comes to the infidels.
There is absolutely nothing to gain from Iran having nukes.
"You gotta keep the devil way down in the hole..."
jstern
06-13-2025, 12:32 AM
No country can truly be trusted, which is why it's important for America and the west to remain on top.
Say what you will about America but I imagine we're a lot more "trustworthy" than Iran. You're talking about a country that lives under extreme religious doctrine. The real kind, not the type you joke about in America. If they're willing to subjugate their own people, I imagine they're capable of a lot worse when it comes to the infidels.
There is absolutely nothing to gain from Iran having nukes.
"You gotta keep the devil way down in the hole..."
The people who run the US, and the world, the West, would take a hammer and turn it around to the fork side and slam it in the eyes of a billion babies if it benefits them, and at the same time have over a million Ukrainians and Russians die for their own benefits. Throw in a million Iraqis. That's why someone such as Joe Biden, despite what a horrible candidate he was, get selected. So you cannot say that they are more trustworthy than any country. Especially with their own citizens. These people are willing to cause Myocarditis on babies, forced the vaccines on the US youth, for a virus with the average death age of 83 years old, just because Pfizer donated to their campaign.
They lie, they cheat, not nicely, but in a sadistic way. And not because they're concerned about citizens, or the Jewish people. Those are just effective propaganda tools.
Baller234
06-13-2025, 01:08 AM
The people who run the US, and the world, the West, would take a hammer and turn it around to the fork side and slam it in the eyes of a billion babies if it benefits them, and at the same time have over a million Ukrainians and Russians die for their own benefits. Throw in a million Iraqis. That's why someone such as Joe Biden, despite what a horrible candidate he was, get selected. So you cannot say that they are more trustworthy than any country. Especially with their own citizens. These people are willing to cause Myocarditis on babies, forced the vaccines on the US youth, for a virus with the average death age of 83 years old, just because Pfizer donated to their campaign.
They lie, they cheat, not nicely, but in a sadistic way. And not because they're concerned about citizens, or the Jewish people. Those are just effective propaganda tools.
That's a great point actually. I can't argue with you.
Our leaders are indifferent to us at best and hold animosity towards us at worst.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 04:36 AM
This is rich, we're the only nation that has actually used them, on civilians, when that nation was already in the stages of surrendering.
We can't be trusted!
Get your Commie scumbag ass outta here. All you do all day on here is trash the United States.
Doomsday Dallas
06-13-2025, 08:24 AM
you'll see.
Damn..... the very next morning.
good call diamenz.
ArbitraryWater
06-13-2025, 08:59 AM
Dropping bombs on nuclear sites in Iran isn't a war. Nobody wants Iran to develop a nuke. They are the only country crazy enough to use it.
What the **** do you know about Iran? :roll::roll::roll:
ArbitraryWater
06-13-2025, 09:00 AM
None of those things define me:
- I am an American, not an Israeli
- I am a Jew, not an Israeli
- Donald Trump is my president, not my God
I can assure you if Trump ever jeopardizes the safety or the standing of our country by endangering us with catastrophic war, I will have something to say about it.
Youre what now? :oldlol:
Well there it is...
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 10:25 AM
What the **** do you know about Iran? :roll::roll::roll:
Apparently you don't know shit about Iran. It's all very public about their nuclear ambitions. Educate yourself, Adolf.
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 10:31 AM
This attack is significant. I mean "ww3" trends on Twitter like every other day. But Israel went straight for the jugular here.
TheMan
06-13-2025, 10:38 AM
Get your Commie scumbag ass outta here. All you do all day on here is trash the United States.
Just pointing out that the US is the only country in world history to use atomic weapons is "trashing the US"?
Ok bruh, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are deep fakes...happy?
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 10:56 AM
Just pointing out that the US is the only country in world history to use atomic weapons is "trashing the US"?
Ok bruh, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are deep fakes...happy?
That's not what you were "just" doing. You were insinuating that the United States acted hastily due to speculation that the Japanese were ready to surrender. Japan ****ed with us, and in the race to show the world who the true superpower was, America had to flex its muscle. And no one has dared to lay a finger on us on U.S. soil since. That's kind of what makes America great and the main reason people from all over the world flock to this country. No one is flocking to Russia or China that's for sure.
Hey Yo
06-13-2025, 11:02 AM
This is rich, we're the only nation that has actually used them, on civilians, when that nation was already in the stages of surrendering.
We can't be trusted!
This thread has nothing to do with Mexico.
TheMan
06-13-2025, 11:11 AM
This thread has nothing to do with Mexico.
I know that, I'm a US citizen, born in 'murrica, family been here longer than yours...keep up boomer :cheers:
diamenz
06-13-2025, 11:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJwAh244HeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAi0uFQY_r8
diamenz
06-13-2025, 11:43 AM
That's probably exactly what Israel wants, for Iran to attack US troops, kill a bunch of Americans, who everyone knows are sitting ducks. That way, the US has an excuse to go to war against Iran.
yup. worst case scenario, if or when iran retaliates, beholden us politicians will use it as an excuse to go nuts on msm calling iran's attack "unprovoked"! and start the propaganda campaign to lead us into the conflict.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 11:46 AM
https://i.ibb.co/NdHvH3KZ/Screenshot-20250613-104553.png
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 11:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtUT83MXAAAmONx.jpg:large
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 11:48 AM
Looks to me like Trump and Israel plotted this one together.
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 11:55 AM
Right before Trump's military parade? Where Trump is going to dance tanks and missiles and troops around like he is Kim Jong Un?
That seems very convenient to me.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 11:56 AM
Looks to me like Trump and Israel plotted this one together.
no question. it also in effect undermines our credibility for diplomacy throughout the world given how we were apparently "in talks" with iran, even had further "critical", in trump's own words, talks scheduled and still proceeded to take military action in the middle of it all.
TheMan
06-13-2025, 11:57 AM
Looks to me like Trump and Israel plotted this one together.
****ing idiot pulled us out of the Obama Iran nuclear deal, which Iran was completely complying with, letting UN inspectors go wherever they wanted.
If the US enters, Trump and Netanyahu should be arrested because this was their plan all along.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 11:58 AM
****ing idiot pulled us out of the Obama Iran nuclear deal, which Iran was completely complying with, letting UN inspectors go where they wanted.
If the US enters, Trump and Netanyahu should be arrested because this was their plan all along.
trump pulled out of that because netanyahu wanted out of it. the agreement was effective. bibi just didn't want peace, period.
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 11:58 AM
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2025/01/20/multimedia/20inauguration-musk-gesture-zbqc/20inauguration-musk-gesture-zbqc-googleFourByThree.jpg
The signs were there.
Get ready for the parade.
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 12:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vV8U01bm20
This video is starting to make the rounds.
There is literally a Trump vid or Tweet calling out everything the he himself does.
TheMan
06-13-2025, 12:37 PM
trump pulled out of that because netanyahu wanted out of it. the agreement was effective. bibi just didn't want peace, period.
This guy knows :cheers:
TheMan
06-13-2025, 12:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vV8U01bm20
This video is starting to make the rounds.
There is literally a Trump vid or Tweet calling out everything the he himself does.
Literally everything he criticized about GWB, Obama and Biden, he winds up doing himself...endless examples of it lol
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 01:49 PM
So many idiots in this thread. Where is Trump starting a war with Iran?? He's just warning those clowns who chant Death to America on a daily basis.
Bill Gates
06-13-2025, 01:54 PM
So many idiots in this thread. Where is Trump starting a war with Iran?? He's just warning those clowns who chant Death to America on a daily basis.
He warned them of military action from US and Israel. :confusedshrug:
Israel would not do this without Trump's backing.
So many idiots in this thread. Where is Trump starting a war with Iran?? He's just warning those clowns who chant Death to America on a daily basis.
Just yesterday you were cheering on this attack, spare us.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 02:06 PM
Just yesterday you were cheering on this attack, spare us.
Are you brain damaged? Actually, that's a rhetorical question, don't answer that. I was cheering on Israel dropping bombs on them. Last time I checked, we aren't Israel. Dummy.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 02:07 PM
He warned them of military action from US and Israel. :confusedshrug:
Israel would not do this without Trump's backing.
Israel doesn't need Trump's backing. Just shut up already with your nonsense.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 02:20 PM
Israel doesn't need Trump's backing. Just shut up already with your nonsense.
:roll::roll::roll:
this is the funniest thing a 400 POUND FATMAN has ever said
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 02:25 PM
Israel has been defending itself and attacking terrorist Islamic countries long before Trump was ever President.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 02:30 PM
everything trump does is a massive failure. this guy never succeeds in doing anything he promises. and just like the video off the court posted, he eventually does everything he accused his opposition of doing all the while idiots like baller make titan posts defending trump's actions.
at some point you have to accept the truth that donnie is a fukking idiot and pathological liar. it's habitual for him at this stage of his career.
Hey Yo
06-13-2025, 02:32 PM
Israel doing the dirty work for us.
:cheers:
highwhey
06-13-2025, 02:35 PM
lil humor for the MAGA fakkits that don't comprehend their daddy trump has them so brainwashed they don't even know they have double standards
https://i.postimg.cc/15H75m6N/image.png
Doomsday Dallas
06-13-2025, 02:41 PM
Iran just threw a few punches back at Israel
Queue the Rocky Music
Lakers Legend#32
06-13-2025, 02:50 PM
Trump trashes the Obama nuclear deal and then tries to renegotiate with a deal that contains everything in the previous one.
Lakers Legend#32
06-13-2025, 02:51 PM
Israel doesn't need Trump's backing. Just shut up already with your nonsense.
The most ignorant of all the posts from the uneducated fat boy.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 03:10 PM
Too many fans of terrorist Islamic regimes on this site. You clowns do realize they hate us too, right? Islam has no place for dissenters.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 03:11 PM
I'm a stupid Mexican fat f*ck
Yes. Yes you are. Acceptance is the first step to recovery.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 03:28 PM
Trump trashes the Obama nuclear deal and then tries to renegotiate with a deal that contains everything in the previous one.
classic trump, art of the deal
highwhey
06-13-2025, 03:43 PM
Too many fans of terrorist Islamic regimes on this site. You clowns do realize they hate us too, right? Islam has no place for dissenters.
no one here is rooting for iran. in reality, you are the only person rooting for a terrorist state (israel) to succeed. you want all brown people to die because you hate yourself, you hate not being white.
Off the Court
06-13-2025, 03:46 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/04/11/trump-tells-iran-make-deal-or-war/
Trump tells Iran ‘make a deal or it’s war’
Donald Trump has given Iran 60 days to agree a nuclear deal or face military action...
This article is 60 days old.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 04:02 PM
no one here is rooting for iran. in reality, you are the only person rooting for a terrorist state (israel) to succeed. you want all brown people to die because you hate yourself, you hate not being white.
Just so you know, the brown people of the Middle East have nothing in common with the brown people of Mexico.
Brown people of the Middle East:
- hate alcohol
- hate dogs
- hate other religions
- hate free speech
- hate pork
- hate women
Choose who you align yourself with wisely.
Just so you know, the brown people of the Middle East have nothing in common with the brown people of Mexico.
Brown people of the Middle East:
- hate alcohol
- hate dogs
- hate other religions
- hate free speech
- hate pork
- hate women
Choose who you align yourself with wisely.
This is literally you. Granted I'm sure you love pork and alcohol.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 04:08 PM
Just so you know, the brown people of the Middle East have nothing in common with the brown people of Mexico.
Brown people of the Middle East:
- hate alcohol
- hate dogs
- hate other religions
- hate free speech
- hate pork
- hate women
Choose who you align yourself with wisely.
i'm not aligning myself with any islamic nation dumbass. i simply don't want my tax dollars helping out that piece of sh1t terroristic state of israel. i give it a couple days before they're on TV broadcasting to all western media "we have been attacked by iran, so we must defend ourselves". those fakkits always start sh1t and then play victim.
frankly, i don't give two sh1ts if those 2 countries blow themselves up to smithereens. i just want the US to stop paying for it. trump was riding musk's cawk about saving the country money and the moment elon left the administration, trump undermined all his efforts by spending like crazy. now we're "assisting" israel through our weapon systems. jordan is helping out israel too. trump just spent $130 MILLION dollars to send troops to LA so he can give a big middle finger to Newsom. Tomorrow trump will spend $45 MILLION dollars for a birthday bash for himself, disguised as a military parade. The guy has gone off the rails with spending. I hope protests crash his bday party, it would be glorious.
Lakers Legend#32
06-13-2025, 04:13 PM
Did you hear 'Lil Marco last night lying and said the US had no idea this was coming and had no input whatsoever?
He knows he can always count on Poopsie to believe him.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 04:15 PM
This is literally you. Granted I'm sure you love pork and alcohol.
Hmmm here I am literally defending your religion which you don't. You're a disgrace to the faith. Free speech? I'm not a Democrat. And women? We don't want to subjugate our women to wear bed sheets and curtains where all you see are their eyes. Women are second class citizens in Islam, the faith you defend the most. No wonder you're single. You want a woman to worship you and not allow her to leave the house or drive. But instead, women make fun of you.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 04:19 PM
i'm not aligning myself with any islamic nation dumbass. i simply don't want my tax dollars helping out that piece of sh1t terroristic state of israel. i give it a couple days before they're on TV broadcasting to all western media "we have been attacked by iran, so we must defend ourselves". those fakkits always start sh1t and then play victim.
frankly, i don't give two sh1ts if those 2 countries blow themselves up to smithereens. i just want the US to stop paying for it. trump was riding musk's cawk about saving the country money and the moment elon left the administration, trump undermined all his efforts by spending like crazy. now we're "assisting" israel through our weapon systems. jordan is helping out israel too. trump just spent $130 MILLION dollars to send troops to LA so he can give a big middle finger to Newsom. Tomorrow trump will spend $45 MILLION dollars for a birthday bash for himself, disguised as a military parade. The guy has gone off the rails with spending. I hope protests crash his bday party, it would be glorious.
So let's get down to brass tacks. You clearly have a problem with the U.S. sending money to Israel, right? So do you have a problem with the U.S. giving Mexico $320 million a year?
Hmmm here I am literally defending your religion which you don't. You're a disgrace to the faith. Free speech? I'm not a Democrat. And women? We don't want to subjugate our women to wear bed sheets and curtains where all you see are their eyes. Women are second class citizens in Islam, the faith you defend the most. No wonder you're single. You want a woman to worship you and not allow her to leave the house or drive. But instead, women make fun of you.
I literally just had a girl over for lunch fats, meanwhile you haven't talked to a woman besides your mother in years. Stop saying I love islam just because I call out Israel, you sound unhinged for that.
TheMan
06-13-2025, 04:40 PM
So let's get down to brass tacks. You clearly have a problem with the U.S. sending money to Israel, right? So do you have a problem with the U.S. giving Mexico $320 million a year?
Most of that aid is for Mexico to combat the US's addiction problem by fighting the drug cartels the gringo junkies help fund :confusedshrug:
highwhey
06-13-2025, 04:44 PM
So let's get down to brass tacks. You clearly have a problem with the U.S. sending money to Israel, right? So do you have a problem with the U.S. giving Mexico $320 million a year?
that's a check for the feds to do whatever they want in mexico. you can thank the DEA and Homeland security for that 320 million, they're the ones that want access to pick up targets whenever they please, and that's how they get access. plus, that money goes to law enforcement/military to guard the border, so it helps the US's southern border with security.
i also don't see mexico ever dragging us into a war with their neighbor.
and trump just spent over half of that 320 million dollars in a single week. so it's not like he cares too much about money.
oh, and its peanuts (and quite honestly, LAUGHIBALE that you attempt to compare the two) compared to the AID israel recieves
Since the start of the war in Gaza, the US has spent a record $17.9 billion on military aid to Israel
how does it feel to constantly get your ass handed to you?
highwhey
06-13-2025, 04:49 PM
so israel's annual aid packaged comes out to 3.8 billion....mexico's is 320 million according to patty.
320/3800=.084
so mexico's aid package is less than 10% of israel's package....israel is 6600 MILES away in another continent, mexico is in our backyard. israel's population is 10 million, mexico's population is 130 million.
why does a country of 10 million need 3.8 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR FREE OF CHARGE? Phoenix metro area has like 7 million people...tf?
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 05:05 PM
Most of that aid is for Mexico to combat the US's addiction problem by fighting the drug cartels the gringo junkies help fund :confusedshrug:
And most of the aid Israel gets is to combat Islamists who want to lob missiles into Israel and kill innocent civilians. So what's the difference? You can't complain about one and gloss over the other. That's called being a hypocrite.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 05:09 PM
And most of the aid Israel gets is to combat Islamists who want to lob missiles into Israel and kill innocent civilians. So what's the difference? You can't complain about one and gloss over the other. That's called being a hypocrite.
umm one of them affects us directly (drugs) and the other affects a country we shouldn't be giving a sh1t about (israel) bc they start and [provoke these conflicts themselves.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 05:16 PM
umm one of them affects us directly (drugs) and the other affects a country we shouldn't be giving a sh1t about (israel) bc they start and [provoke these conflicts themselves.
We have interests all over the world. Everything affects us directly. An unchecked Islamist regime with nuclear capabilities surely affects us. But that's besides the point. You've proven to be biased and hypocritical by accepting aid for Mexico, but crying about the aid we send Israel.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 05:20 PM
We have interests all over the world. Everything affects us directly. An unchecked Islamist regime with nuclear capabilities surely affects us. But that's besides the point. You've proven to be biased and hypocritical by accepting aid for Mexico, but crying about the aid we send Israel.
:roll::roll:
you're so fukkin stupid dude. you're comparing $320 million dollars to 3.8 billion+war and free unlimited missiles. they aren't comparable in any fashion, form, or function. it's not our job to stop a middle east regimen that is getting bodied right now. it's just another ploy from the israel lobby and shareholders of raytheon and northrop to line their pockets.
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 05:31 PM
:roll::roll:
you're so fukkin stupid dude. you're comparing $320 million dollars to 3.8 billion+war and free unlimited missiles. they aren't comparable in any fashion, form, or function. it's not our job to stop a middle east regimen that is getting bodied right now. it's just another ploy from the israel lobby and shareholders of raytheon and northrop to line their pockets.
Are you dense? We're not stopping Iran, Israel is. When is Mexico going to stop the cartels for once? And missiles and tanks cost a lot of money. Duh! What Israel does with those weapons is their prerogative. Aid is aid. You can't complain about aid to one country unless you're going to complain about aid to every country.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 05:59 PM
Are you dense? We're not stopping Iran, Israel is. When is Mexico going to stop the cartels for once? And missiles and tanks cost a lot of money. Duh! What Israel does with those weapons is their prerogative. Aid is aid. You can't complain about aid to one country unless you're going to complain about aid to every country.
it's US military personnel that are doing the stopping dumbass.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 06:09 PM
Are you dense? We're not stopping Iran, Israel is. When is Mexico going to stop the cartels for once? And missiles and tanks cost a lot of money. Duh! What Israel does with those weapons is their prerogative. Aid is aid. You can't complain about aid to one country unless you're going to complain about aid to every country.
don't be willfully ignorant - we have a hand in this. if iran were to retaliate in a major way, with or without any of the brics countries behind them, we would be forced to intervene. no question. this is a provocation on the part of israel and they know they have us leveraged if worst came to worst. if this turns into a regime change operation (and there's reason to believe this may be the ultimate goal) and it becomes a prolonged exercise, there's no telling what other actors may get involved including turkey, russia & china due to their own strategic interests with iran then we will be forced to get involved and that's exactly what bibi wants - you'd better believe it. under certain circumstances as this has the potential branch out, it could certainly turn into a worldwide conflict. this shit isn't just a game of "durr overthrow dem evil muslims".
bottom line is, we have israel's back in this if it were to go sour and we'd be obligated to go to war on their behalf with other countries that take issue with what they're doing.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 06:13 PM
don't be willingfully ignorant - we have a hand in this. if iran retaliates in a major way, with or without any or all of the brics countrries behind them, we would be forced to intervene. no question. if this turns into a regime change operation and it becomes a prolonged exercise, there's no telling what other actors may get involved including turkey, russia & china due to their own strategic interests with iran then we will be forced to get involved and that's what bibi wants - you'd better believe it. under certain circumstances as this has the potential branch out, it could certainly turn into a worldwide conflict. this shit isn't just a game of "durr overthrow dem evil muslims".
bottom line is, we have israel's back in this if it were to go sour and we'd be obligated to go to war on their behalf with other countries that take issue with what they're doing.
and it's not like the US has a long history of forcing regime changes only to create new ones that bite them in the ass later...right? RIGHT? seems like patrick has zero to zilch knowledge about the middle east.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 06:25 PM
...that's not to mention the thousands of non-combat troops that we currently have stationed throughout the region who are sitting ducks right now. but you'd like them to get hit wouldn't you, chewing - that way we'd be forced to join into the fray with israel in their aggression.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 06:58 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/DnvyVRQ9/Untitled.jpg
highwhey
06-13-2025, 06:59 PM
i give it a couple days before they're on TV broadcasting to all western media "we have been attacked by iran, so we must defend ourselves". those fakkits always start sh1t and then play victim.
wow, not even 24 hours later and the IDF is pretending to be the victims of the conflict they started...like fukkin clockwork these juice
https://i.postimg.cc/Xqdjy2dX/image.png
SaltyMeatballs
06-13-2025, 07:00 PM
Just dropping by to say **** Israel and **** all the genocide supporters
Wishing a nice day to the folks who want this genocide and the mass killing of innocent children and babies to end :pimp:
highwhey
06-13-2025, 07:04 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/DnvyVRQ9/Untitled.jpg
the US should allow israel to be hurt. if trump had any backbone and wits, he'd eliminate two birds with one stone by pulling back support at the most critical moment and let iran and israel sort it out amongst them. if israel stands after the smoke is cleared, then no bloodshed on USA's hands. if Iran is victorious, then we can wipe whatever bits and pieces remaind of their government all the while we have freed ourselves of the puppet masters that are the zionist lobby.
Meticode
06-13-2025, 07:05 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/DnvyVRQ9/Untitled.jpg
Given his history, classic case of fear mongering on his part.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 07:17 PM
Given his history, classic case of fear mongering on his part.
so you dismiss what he has to say out of hand, which is credible btw for anyone that spends time researching the subject, because he has a history of manipulating political and culture war issues? yeah i'd think twice if i were you.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 07:42 PM
that most recent barrage of missiles from iran seems to have hit norther israel pretty hard. bibi is locked in a bunker with his knees shaking.
Meticode
06-13-2025, 07:42 PM
so you dismiss what he has to say out of hand, which is credible btw for anyone that spends time researching the subject, because he has a history of manipulating political and culture war issues? yeah i'd think twice if i were you.
It's fear mongering.
diamenz
06-13-2025, 07:54 PM
It's fear mongering.
is this fearmongering?
www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521831-Israel-Appears-Ready-to-Attack-Iran-Officials-in-U-S-and-Europe-Say&p=15014214&viewfull=1#post15014214
Meticode
06-13-2025, 08:54 PM
is this fearmongering?
www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?521831-Israel-Appears-Ready-to-Attack-Iran-Officials-in-U-S-and-Europe-Say&p=15014214&viewfull=1#post15014214
It's fear mongering.
highwhey
06-13-2025, 09:20 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/971/672/ab8
https://twitter.com/i/status/1933414194210353568
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 10:25 PM
What did you guys do to my diamenz?? Look at what you did to my boy. He was never like this. I blame you. Yes, YOU!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e7/2c/8ee72c1f3ecd3b1e75c4da9866cbb294.gif
highwhey
06-13-2025, 10:28 PM
What did you guys do to my diamenz?? Look at what you did to my boy. He was never like this. I blame you. Yes, JEW!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e7/2c/8ee72c1f3ecd3b1e75c4da9866cbb294.gif
:lebronamazed:
Patrick Chewing
06-13-2025, 10:49 PM
I want all you clowns with the exception of Hey Yo and warriorfan cause it looks like the rest of you are just braindead, but I want all you clowns to watch this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNIgFE-JS8Q
BOOM
highwhey
06-13-2025, 11:04 PM
i don't watch propaganda videos.
Meticode
06-13-2025, 11:53 PM
i don't watch propaganda videos.
You should. Fear mongering is entertaining to some.
ShawkFactory
06-14-2025, 01:28 AM
What did you guys do to my diamenz?? Look at what you did to my boy. He was never like this. I blame you. Yes, YOU!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e7/2c/8ee72c1f3ecd3b1e75c4da9866cbb294.gif
Ahhh shit you thought he was just a kindred Muzzie hating spirit?!
Patrick, you don’t need to conflate hating liberals with hating..everything else :lol
imdaman99
06-14-2025, 02:57 AM
bibi is locked in a bunker with his knees shaking.
Nah this bitch fled to Greece. Talk about coward. Dude starts a war and jets on vacation.
brownmamba00
06-14-2025, 06:35 AM
The opposite just happened :roll:Get wrecked drop a whole nuke on that shithole. **** israel.
brownmamba00
06-14-2025, 06:38 AM
Nah this bitch fled to Greece. Talk about coward. Dude starts a war and jets on vacation.
Hes a deadman walking
highwhey
06-14-2025, 10:10 AM
Hes a deadman walking
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-18-2016/Jnj_Cx.gif
diamenz
06-14-2025, 10:33 AM
You should. Fear mongering is entertaining to some.
with all due respect bro, because you seem like a stand up guy, you haven't demonstrated to know jack shit about this subject one way or the other so i can't take your opinion seriously. luv ya anyway.
diamenz
06-14-2025, 10:34 AM
What did you guys do to my diamenz?? Look at what you did to my boy. He was never like this. I blame you. Yes, YOU!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8e/e7/2c/8ee72c1f3ecd3b1e75c4da9866cbb294.gif
i've been swallowed by the madness of the world man. can you blame me?
brownmamba00
06-14-2025, 12:20 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-18-2016/Jnj_Cx.gif
https://www.icegif.com/wp-content/uploads/icegif-1358.gif
highwhey
06-14-2025, 02:40 PM
i've been swallowed by the madness of the world man. can you blame me?
https://i.ibb.co/RpNngPp1/IMG-1082.jpg
diamenz
06-14-2025, 02:52 PM
https://i.ibb.co/RpNngPp1/IMG-1082.jpg
lmao. that's pretty bad man.
Doomsday Dallas
06-15-2025, 11:49 AM
Man.... what's happening in Israel right now is some Biblical $hit.
https://c.tenor.com/V2s0HjqsnaYAAAAd/tenor.gif
highwhey
06-15-2025, 11:57 AM
diamenz call this situation. it's not just israel and iran...it's a proxy war now. chinese and russian supplies aiding iran with pakistan threatning the US to stay out of it or they will jump in on behalf of Iran. with Israel, they have US, UK and Jordan support. China is just suppliying right now but they do buy most of Iran's oil so they have a significant dependency and interest in Iran.
israhell would have already lost without the US, i say trump cuts them off and let them figure it out on their own. we don't owe them sh1t.
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/INTERACTIVE-IRAN-ISRAEL-HEAD-TO-HEAD-JUNE-13-2025-1749796574.jpg?w=770&resize=770%2C963&quality=80
diamenz
06-15-2025, 12:15 PM
diamenz call this situation. it's not just israel and iran...it's a proxy war now. chinese and russian supplies aiding iran with pakistan threatning the US to stay out of it or they will jump in on behalf of Iran. with Israel, they have US, UK and Jordan support. China is just suppliying right now but they do buy most of Iran's oil so they have a significant dependency and interest in Iran.
israhell would have already lost without the US, i say trump cuts them off and let them figure it out on their own. we don't owe them sh1t.
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/INTERACTIVE-IRAN-ISRAEL-HEAD-TO-HEAD-JUNE-13-2025-1749796574.jpg?w=770&resize=770%2C963&quality=80
i haven't been following but like you said it goes without saying the longer this goes on and evolves the more potential it has to escalate. we're not just bullying the empty entity that's gaza anymore - iran is interwined with a chunk of other country's affairs and they'll only put up with so much for so long, especially in regard to oil & gas. trump won't cut them off - he's already bought by the lobby.
and don't forget that pakistan is also a nuclear power (one that refuses to join the global nuclear nonproliferation treaty) and is arguably more unstable than iran would be but we never hear about that because they're not a threat to israel.
diamenz
06-15-2025, 12:17 PM
Man.... what's happening in Israel right now is some Biblical $hit.
https://c.tenor.com/V2s0HjqsnaYAAAAd/tenor.gif
the bible says that end times will be rooted in the middle east...
Meticode
06-15-2025, 12:19 PM
with all due respect bro, because you seem like a stand up guy, you haven't demonstrated to know jack shit about this subject one way or the other so i can't take your opinion seriously. luv ya anyway.
I don't care if you take me seriously or not. The fear mongering comment is an inside joke between highwhey and I. He used it on me in a NBA discussion. It ain't that serious. luv ya anyway
diamenz
06-15-2025, 12:25 PM
I don't care if you take me seriously or not. The fear mongering comment is an inside joke between highwhey and I. He used it on me in a NBA discussion. It ain't that serious. luv ya anyway
alright... if it was an inside joke between you and highwhey why would you use it in a conversation with someone else?
Meticode
06-15-2025, 12:35 PM
alright... if it was an inside joke between you and highwhey why would you use it in a conversation with someone else?
It's an open discussion and everyone is reading each other's posts.
Plus...
...it's fear mongering.
highwhey
06-15-2025, 04:11 PM
irredeemable people...sorry not sorry
https://i.postimg.cc/Pq3b6srp/image.png
highwhey
06-15-2025, 07:40 PM
https://youtu.be/pjuMJNc5Zys
Doomsday Dallas
06-15-2025, 08:25 PM
https://youtu.be/pjuMJNc5Zys
Are we finally diving into the realms of conspiracy?
Doomsday Dallas
06-15-2025, 09:17 PM
https://youtu.be/sUJrXNCfUrk
There you go highwhey.... enjoy.
highwhey
06-16-2025, 12:22 PM
israel is trying to convince everyone that iranians are revolting against their government and that all is kosher in israel despite countless videos of israel cities being struck and missiles penetrating their iron dome like a warm knife through butter.
those mouthbreathers in the IDF bombed a tv network in iran. they are doing their best to use the media for disinformation and to sway viewers. pieces of sh1t with no regard for human life.
highwhey
06-16-2025, 12:24 PM
and israel killed like 30 innocent Palestinians yesterday that were trying to get food/aid. they don't even give a sh1t anymore, they are straight up murdering anyone they dislike. :facepalm
Meticode
06-16-2025, 12:32 PM
Israel putting in work. Good job on their part.
Doomsday Dallas
06-16-2025, 12:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF1LfF04S2g
Meticode
06-16-2025, 12:58 PM
Since late Sunday night US-time, the US government has deployed over 30 air tankers over to Europe/Middle East. Air tankers are required to refuel mid-air for fighter jets who have to do long air strikes. For example Israel to Iran.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-appears-to-be-deploying-large-number-of-aerial-refueling-tankers-across-the-atlantic/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtiFZwKa8AEllAr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtkC_shacAAkSPs.jpg
highwhey
06-16-2025, 01:40 PM
Since late Sunday night US-time, the US government has deployed over 30 air tankers over to Europe/Middle East. Air tankers are required to refuel mid-air for fighter jets who have to do long air strikes. For example Israel to Iran.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-appears-to-be-deploying-large-number-of-aerial-refueling-tankers-across-the-atlantic/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtiFZwKa8AEllAr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtkC_shacAAkSPs.jpg
trump is so spineless, just after he said they wouldn't get involved, he sends more support :facepalm
Patrick Chewing
06-16-2025, 04:36 PM
It's a shame the lot of you are in the minority, especially that fat idiot highweight. Syria just opened up their airspace in order to track and bring down Iran's drones and missiles.
The Muslim world wants to see Iran get their shit pushed in.
It's a shame the lot of you are in the minority, especially that fat idiot highweight. Syria just opened up their airspace in order to track and bring down Iran's drones and missiles.
The Muslim world wants to see Iran get their shit pushed in.
Highwhey can be ignored because he's just in it to hate jews, but the rest of us are just saying it's bad for Israel to do an unprovoked attack on Iran. Surely you'd agree unprovoked attacks are bad?
highwhey
06-16-2025, 04:43 PM
Highwhey can be ignored because he's just in it to hate jews, but the rest of us are just saying it's bad for Israel to do an unprovoked attack on Iran. Surely you'd agree unprovoked attacks are bad?
that is not true. i expose them for what they are. and this entire conflict is undeserved. do you think i don't cringe when i see an iranian hypersonic missile level an apartment building in tel aviv? of course, i feel bad for the people residing there. but the israeli government brought that upon themselves by provoking iran and now, forcing their own allies to join the conflict. it's AMAZING how you STILL can't see what's going on. the israeli lobby controls this fukkin world.
Patrick Chewing
06-16-2025, 04:50 PM
Highwhey can be ignored because he's just in it to hate jews, but the rest of us are just saying it's bad for Israel to do an unprovoked attack on Iran. Surely you'd agree unprovoked attacks are bad?
Houthis have been attacking Israel for years now and they're backed by Iran. Same goes for Hezbollah. So to say it's unprovoked is a stretch. I just read that the Houthis fired some missiles towards Israel in the past couple of days and they actually hit the West Bank and Gaza instead. National news won't report on that.
highwhey
06-16-2025, 04:58 PM
Houthis have been attacking Israel for years now and they're backed by Iran. Same goes for Hezbollah. So to say it's unprovoked is a stretch. I just read that the Houthis fired some missiles towards Israel in the past couple of days and they actually hit the West Bank and Gaza instead. National news won't report on that.
This guy is the type of demographic that the IDF and Mossaad dreams of. He takes all the misinformation from twitter and heavily biased news outlets that spew a lot of false information to garner the public's sympathy.
You know what you won't read? How israel bombed a news network in Iran this morning under the guise of "there were iranian military personnel embedded inside" but there's video of news anchors reacting to being bombed while they were taping.
Or how media/internet blackouts happen on purpose in israel while they are being bombed to limit communications so that the government can control the narrative through the media/social media.
jstern
06-16-2025, 06:29 PM
Is Off the Court currently in Israel? https://x.com/i/status/1934000637077053553
(https://x.com/i/status/1934000637077053553)That guy is in heaven.
Patrick Chewing
06-16-2025, 08:00 PM
This guy is the type of demographic that the IDF and Mossaad dreams of. He takes all the misinformation from twitter and heavily biased news outlets that spew a lot of false information to garner the public's sympathy.
You know what you won't read? How israel bombed a news network in Iran this morning under the guise of "there were iranian military personnel embedded inside" but there's video of news anchors reacting to being bombed while they were taping.
Or how media/internet blackouts happen on purpose in israel while they are being bombed to limit communications so that the government can control the narrative through the media/social media.
I can't tell who hates Jews more, you or Candance Owens?
jstern
06-16-2025, 08:25 PM
China, Russia, and Germany have just instructed all of their citizens to leave Israel immediately. Something significant could be about to happen. Israel has banned its citizens from leaving the country, although Israelis currently outside the country are welcomed to return.
And Trump said that everyone should 'Immediately evacuate Tehran.' But that could be a tactic to prevent Iran from taking major action.
Trump is also currently in the situation room.
highwhey
06-16-2025, 08:31 PM
China, Russia, and Germany have just instructed all of their citizens to leave Israel immediately. Something significant could be about to happen. Israel has banned its citizens from leaving the country, although Israelis currently outside the country are welcomed to return.
And Trump said that everyone should 'Immediately evacuate Tehran.' But that could be a tactic to prevent Iran from taking major action.
Trump is also currently in the situation room.
israel not allowing their own citizens to flee is a sh1tty move...especially when the HJIC (head jew in charge) fled to greece hours before launching the first attack.
Lakers Legend#32
06-17-2025, 03:00 PM
Not to alarm you but the most insecure, dementia ridden toddler who's big glorious birthday parade was a complete dud, who went to the G7 where he was not respected is now on his way back to Washington to meet with his very incompetent National Security Council about war stuff.
TheMan
06-17-2025, 03:15 PM
China, Russia, and Germany have just instructed all of their citizens to leave Israel immediately. Something significant could be about to happen. Israel has banned its citizens from leaving the country, although Israelis currently outside the country are welcomed to return.
And Trump said that everyone should 'Immediately evacuate Tehran.' But that could be a tactic to prevent Iran from taking major action.
Trump is also currently in the situation room.
We never learn. We're about to enter another war, right after that fat piece of shit coward said he wouldn't drag us into another and called everyone else warmongers, and you idiots in MAGA fell for it. This shit could be disastrous and lead to unintended consequences, could potentially spark a world war since Iran is backed by Russia and China. Trump is NOT the leader you want in war time, he is immensely stupid and he's just going to do what that murderous genocidal maniac Zionist Netanyahu wants him to do. He can't unilaterally drag us into war, that's what Congress is for but so far this administration has shown us they don't give two fukks about the constitution, it would be an illegal war. Trump needs to immediately be arrested and dragged out of the White House in handcuffs.
This shit will not end well except for of course, the military industrial complex...and when has regime change ever been successful? Especially in that region...SMH.
highwhey
06-17-2025, 03:31 PM
is this conflict going to divide MAGA? :lebronamazed:
https://i.postimg.cc/xjBZBY2B/image.png
Lakers Legend#32
06-17-2025, 03:42 PM
This is the perfect time to have a secretary of defense who is an alcoholic.
Doomsday Dallas
06-17-2025, 04:03 PM
is this conflict going to divide MAGA? :lebronamazed:
Yes… but there will eventually be an X-Factor that will gather more support for war.
Doomsday Dallas
06-17-2025, 04:06 PM
Axis of Evil ladies & gentlemen…
So there is a 100% chance that war with North Korea will be thrown into the mix at some point.
Not a matter or “if” ….. only a matter of “when”
highwhey
06-17-2025, 04:12 PM
Yes… but there will eventually be an X-Factor that will gather more support for war.
you thinking israel will execute a false flag operation on US land? that seems like the quickest way for the nation to change their opinion on going into war. right now i'd say at best we're split as a country, but i bet deep down most of us do not want to enter war. like you said though, an x-factor, currently unknown but something can change that real quick...like overnight quick. i really hope we don't enter another war, the global economy will be wrecked for years. this decade will turn into an abyss of a time period with another war. as we stand right now, we still have hope for the economy to improve next year or after, but not if a war breaks out.
Doomsday Dallas
06-17-2025, 04:24 PM
you thinking israel will execute a false flag operation on US land? that seems like the quickest way for the nation to change their opinion on going into war. right now i'd say at best we're split as a country, but i bet deep down most of us do not want to enter war. like you said though, an x-factor, currently unknown but something can change that real quick...like overnight quick. i really hope we don't enter another war, the global economy will be wrecked for years. this decade will turn into an abyss of a time period with another war. as we stand right now, we still have hope for the economy to improve next year or after, but not if a war breaks out.
I think NK will be the false flag… I could be wrong though.
If North Korea pulls off an “alleged” attack on the mainland, who wouldn’t support war on any country we choose?
Either way, we should be issuing a code red for false flag events… they’re being manufactured as we speak.
jstern
06-17-2025, 05:16 PM
We never learn. We're about to enter another war, right after that fat piece of shit coward said he wouldn't drag us into another and called everyone else warmongers, and you idiots in MAGA fell for it. This shit could be disastrous and lead to unintended consequences, could potentially spark a world war since Iran is backed by Russia and China. Trump is NOT the leader you want in war time, he is immensely stupid and he's just going to do what that murderous genocidal maniac Zionist Netanyahu wants him to do. He can't unilaterally drag us into war, that's what Congress is for but so far this administration has shown us they don't give two fukks about the constitution, it would be an illegal war. Trump needs to immediately be arrested and dragged out of the White House in handcuffs.
This shit will not end well except for of course, the military industrial complex...and when has regime change ever been successful? Especially in that region...SMH.
This is what Michael Herzog, said, "God did the state of Israel a favor that Biden was president during this period, because it could have been much worse. We fought in Gaza for over a year, and the administration never came to us and said, 'Ceasefire now.' It never did. And that’s not to be taken for granted."
Do you think anything would be different with Kamala? With Kamala you'd get a constant stream of fake concerned language. It would be all about "the complexities," "the tragedy on both sides," and how "Israel has a right to defend itself." Their method is more insidious.
Kamala/Biden were the ones sending billions, hugging Netanyahu, and promising unlimited weapons for Israel. People like Bill Clinton have said that they will fight and die for Israel, "Personally get in a ditch, grab a rifle, and fight and die" for Israel.
I think, if anything, Trump, who's the master of the media, is sabotaging Israel by purposefully saying things in a way that just won't fly with most Americans. He's willing to look like the bad guy for a goal. While with Kamala Harris all you would have gotten is a softening of the events, and a lot less pushback from people.
Trump doesn't like Netanyahu, he's shown that before. He's also an alpha male that doesn't like the fact that he's bought and paid for by Israel. But for whatever reason, he has no choice but to show support. Who knows what the consequences would be. But in the meantime, he pushes back in whatever way he can.
The way he's proceeding does not benefit Israel. Kamala Harris and the Democrats would be far more effective propagandists for this.
TheMan
06-17-2025, 05:42 PM
is this conflict going to divide MAGA? :lebronamazed:
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God bless her, I hope she stands her ground and pushes against yet another war that drains America dry. I would have respect for MAGA if they push back hard because that's one of the core principles, America first right? Iran isn't a real threat, this war would just be for Israel's sake. I fear most MAGA are just cult members though and they will eventually fall into line and support Trump dragging us yet again into another war though I would love to be wrong...
Trump is furiously trying to outdo GWB as WOAT.
TheMan
06-17-2025, 05:42 PM
This is what Michael Herzog, said, "God did the state of Israel a favor that Biden was president during this period, because it could have been much worse. We fought in Gaza for over a year, and the administration never came to us and said, 'Ceasefire now.' It never did. And that’s not to be taken for granted."
Do you think anything would be different with Kamala? With Kamala you'd get a constant stream of fake concerned language. It would be all about "the complexities," "the tragedy on both sides," and how "Israel has a right to defend itself." Their method is more insidious.
Kamala/Biden were the ones sending billions, hugging Netanyahu, and promising unlimited weapons for Israel. People like Bill Clinton have said that they will fight and die for Israel, "Personally get in a ditch, grab a rifle, and fight and die" for Israel.
I think, if anything, Trump, who's the master of the media, is sabotaging Israel by purposefully saying things in a way that just won't fly with most Americans. He's willing to look like the bad guy for a goal. While with Kamala Harris all you would have gotten is a softening of the events, and a lot less pushback from people.
Trump doesn't like Netanyahu, he's shown that before. He's also an alpha male that doesn't like the fact that he's bought and paid for by Israel. But for whatever reason, he has no choice but to show support. Who knows what the consequences would be. But in the meantime, he pushes back in whatever way he can.
The way he's proceeding does not benefit Israel. Kamala Harris and the Democrats would be far more effective propagandists for this.
You really are crazy, like literally insane.
diamenz
06-17-2025, 05:54 PM
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highwhey
06-17-2025, 06:11 PM
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rr3 is going to rush in here to white knight for his ppl
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diamenz
06-17-2025, 06:49 PM
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highwhey
06-17-2025, 06:57 PM
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who KNEW? Tulsi Gabbard and MTG, the only ones with balls in the entire MAGA movement turn out to be the females.
Washington insiders are saying ODNI Tulsi Gabbard will resign if President Trump orders the U.S. military to join Israel in their strikes against Iran.
diamenz
06-17-2025, 07:04 PM
Washington insiders are saying ODNI Tulsi Gabbard will resign if President Trump orders the U.S. military to join Israel in their strikes against Iran.
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highwhey
06-17-2025, 07:09 PM
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honestly, i hope that's true. at least someone in his cabinet of 'yes men' has the balls to stand by their own principles and not just go with the flow.
there's a screenshot trump posted of a friend/colleague texting him to drop a bomb on iran...and trump posted it on truth social like it's a flex...wtf? guys is going off the rails.
diamenz
06-17-2025, 07:24 PM
there's a screenshot trump posted of a friend/colleague texting him to drop a bomb on iran...and trump posted it on truth social like it's a flex...wtf? guys is going off the rails.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1oxRJUwAAUpvo?format=jpg&name=medium
Meticode
06-17-2025, 07:31 PM
I'm not a far right or far left person, but if Trump gets the United States directly involved in the Israel/Iran shit he's going to lose a lot of support from people who voted for him.
“I’m not going to start wars, I’m going to stop wars,” declares Republican US presidential nominee Donald Trump in his victory speech.
“We had no wars, for four years we had no wars. Except we defeated ISIS,” Trump says. -November 6th, 2024
highwhey
06-17-2025, 07:49 PM
I'm not a far right or far left person, but if Trump gets the United States directly involved in the Israel/Iran shit he's going to lose a lot of support from people who voted for him.
“I’m not going to start wars, I’m going to stop wars,” declares Republican US presidential nominee Donald Trump in his victory speech.
“We had no wars, for four years we had no wars. Except we defeated ISIS,” Trump says. -November 6th, 2024
i think it's certainly creating a fork in the road for maga but more so republicans in general. as shown above, we have green and gabbard publicly expressing their disapproval of entering war. some of the hardcore magas like patrickchewing and other basement dwellers will follow whatever direction trump pivots to bc they are unable to think for themselves and are in it for the allegiance. they are not americans, they would get down on their knees and suck trump off if he asked them to do so, no questions asked.
but i am at least somewhat content that some people are not OK with this and not afraid to say it aloud.
TheMan
06-17-2025, 08:09 PM
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Goddamn, never thought I would say this but I'm becoming a Majorie Taylor Greene stan. She's 100% right on this issue, God bless her...and Tulsi Gabbard too.
highwhey
06-17-2025, 08:18 PM
trump canceled his press conference tonight. wonder what he was going to tell amerikkka....https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass1.png
TheMan
06-17-2025, 08:38 PM
trump canceled his press conference tonight. wonder what he was going to tell amerikkka....https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass1.png
Hopefully he's having second thoughts on being Bibi's lapdog...though I really don't hold too much hope on that TBH.
The silence from MAGA in thread is deafening, they know as much as all of us that entering another war will be disastrous.
highwhey
06-17-2025, 08:47 PM
Hopefully he's having second thoughts on being Bibi's lapdog...though I really don't hold too much hope on that TBH.
The silence from MAGA in thread is deafening, they know as much as all of us that entering another war will be disastrous.
I was just about to comment that as well. it's almost like they're waiting for fox news/trump to give them their orders on how to spin this sh1tshow. that's how you know they don't think for themselves and are just following the lead ape.
and as for trump, i'm sure seeing tulsi and marjorie not be aligned with him on this matter is making him hesitate, his peers are split on the issue and he knows it. it's been a wild ass 6 months into his term. now he's facing a potential situation that can make or break his 'legacy'. honestly couldn't have happened to anyone better https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laff.gif
diamenz
06-17-2025, 08:55 PM
it's almost like they're waiting for fox news/trump to give them their orders on how to spin this sh1tshow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOHWMpvDSMQ
bladefd
06-17-2025, 09:14 PM
trump canceled his press conference tonight. wonder what he was going to tell amerikkka....https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/sass1.png
"We have declared war on Iran" but try to spin it as a "special military operation" from Putin's playbook.
Republicans and their wars never seem to end.
bladefd
06-17-2025, 09:18 PM
Hopefully he's having second thoughts on being Bibi's lapdog...though I really don't hold too much hope on that TBH.
The silence from MAGA in thread is deafening, they know as much as all of us that entering another war will be disastrous.
But they will suck off Trump regardless of what he decides to do. I don't freaking want another useless war.
jstern
06-17-2025, 09:43 PM
"We have declared war on Iran" but try to spin it as a "special military operation" from Putin's playbook.
Republicans and their wars never seem to end.
Even though Blade is not the sharpest, I'm glad to see that he's back.
You really are crazy, like literally insane.
Why not respond to the points that I made.
highwhey
06-17-2025, 09:56 PM
"We have declared war on Iran" but try to spin it as a "special military operation" from Putin's playbook.
Republicans and their wars never seem to end.
probably giving a heads up to his friends to go long on DoD stocks
highwhey
06-17-2025, 10:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOHWMpvDSMQ
you see ted cruz get sonned by tucker? :roll:
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highwhey
06-17-2025, 10:39 PM
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1987_Lakers
06-18-2025, 12:15 AM
you see ted cruz get sonned by tucker? :roll:
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:roll:
Doomsday Dallas
06-18-2025, 01:01 AM
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highwhey
06-18-2025, 01:13 AM
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brownmamba00
06-18-2025, 05:57 AM
Don't get 9/11d again dear Americans. Trump is gonna drag this one out
TheMan
06-18-2025, 10:30 AM
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
Doomsday Dallas
06-18-2025, 11:05 AM
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
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TheMan
06-18-2025, 11:13 AM
This is a masterclass in geopolitics and economic strategy with the aim of keeping US imperialism in tact...
https://youtu.be/OwH780cEcEQ?si=8x4-Wpv07088_yf2
Baller234
06-18-2025, 11:38 AM
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
TheMan
06-18-2025, 12:20 PM
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 02:30 PM
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
yeah, he ran his campaign on that and is turning out to be no different than the neocons that MAGA "hates". everything he has said, promised has turned out to be a lie.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 02:34 PM
the iron dome
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Baller234
06-18-2025, 04:13 PM
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
You're not gonna change anyone's mind shouting "Trump lied" because most people knew Trump was a shameless liar when they voted for him. Every single person that ever ran for president lied on the campaign trail. There was no way to vote in the last election and not cast your vote for a liar, so that's a moot point.
Iran is a major power center when it comes to our Islamic adversaries, so if Trump and his allies (handlers) believe the west is in a position of strength to weaken the mothership without much cost to us then what's the problem? If the cost becomes too great and the war ends up jeopardizing the safety and stability of our country, then sure it will have been a colossal failure and Trump will go out in shame. But do we know that's bound to happen?
What if Iran is defeated handily and without much sacrifice? You think the average person is going to care? I don't.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 04:23 PM
You're not gonna change anyone's mind shouting "Trump lied" because most people knew Trump was a shameless liar when they voted for him. Every single person that ever ran for president lied on the campaign trail. There was no way to vote in the last election and not cast your vote for a liar, so that's a moot point.
Iran is a major power center when it comes to our Islamic adversaries, so if Trump and his allies (handlers) believe the west is in a position of strength to weaken the mothership without much cost to us then what's the problem? If the cost becomes too great and the war ends up jeopardizing the safety and stability of our country, then sure it will have been a colossal failure and Trump will go out in shame. But do we know that's bound to happen?
What if Iran is defeated handily and without much sacrifice? You think the average person is going to care? I don't.
top 3 mental gymnastics game on ish https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png
Baller234
06-18-2025, 04:32 PM
top 3 mental gymnastics game on ish https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png
I have never once claimed Trump wasn't a liar.
This is the same guy who said he would miraculously overhaul the healthcare system. That didn't happen. He said he would be able to stop these wars on Day 1. That didn't happen. All politicians throw shit at the wall.
He said the vaccine was super terrific and everyone should get it. Never once thought about getting vaccinated.
Not going to shed tears because of a regime change in Iran, not unless it hurts us.
Lakers Legend#32
06-18-2025, 04:47 PM
C'mon MAGA patriots!
It's time to show your love for freedom and your dear leader Trump.
It's time to enlist now for military service in Iran.
And think of it Chewing, you might be able to drop some of your 400lbs.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 04:59 PM
I have never once claimed Trump wasn't a liar.
This is the same guy who said he would miraculously overhaul the healthcare system. That didn't happen. He said he would be able to stop these wars on Day 1. That didn't happen. All politicians throw shit at the wall.
He said the vaccine was super terrific and everyone should get it. Never once thought about getting vaccinated.
Not going to shed tears because of a regime change in Iran, not unless it hurts us.
This is why you're mental gymnastics game is elite, top notch.
it's already hurting us pal, fiscally and politically. no one will want to sign nuclear treaties with USA bc trump doesn't keep his word. our reputation is done for with foreign governments. and this conflict just reassures countries like NK and Russia why *actually* having nukes is a great deterrent...bc when you don't have one (like Iran), you are susceptible to idiots like netanyahu.
Keep your game strong tho https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png
TheMan
06-18-2025, 05:23 PM
This is why you're mental gymnastics game is elite, top notch.
it's already hurting us pal, fiscally and politically. no one will want to sign nuclear treaties with USA bc trump doesn't keep his word. our reputation is done for with foreign governments. and this conflict just reassures countries like NK and Russia why *actually* having nukes is a great deterrent...bc when you don't have one (like Iran), you are susceptible to idiots like netanyahu.
Keep your game strong tho https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png
I will give Baller234 credit for showing his face here though, all the other MAGATs are hiding because they were duped by Trump. Baller234 is embarrassing himself but at least he ain't hiding like the other rats like Chewing, Hey Yo, AW etc
Baller234
06-18-2025, 05:54 PM
This is why you're mental gymnastics game is elite, top notch.
it's already hurting us pal, fiscally and politically. no one will want to sign nuclear treaties with USA bc trump doesn't keep his word. our reputation is done for with foreign governments. and this conflict just reassures countries like NK and Russia why *actually* having nukes is a great deterrent...bc when you don't have one (like Iran), you are susceptible to idiots like netanyahu.
Keep your game strong tho https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/holeup.png
Who gives af what other countries think? Who says there's honor in war when dealing with a hostile enemy? Those countries are not our allies. There are already plenty of countries in the region eager and willing to do business with us and none of them give a shit about Iran. We go through leaders every 4-8 years so deals are expected to be renegotiated.
US/Israel isn't engaging in this war purely out of virtue, I would never assume that, but dealing a powerful blow to the anti-western radical Islamic power structure IS a bonus and a net positive for the world. The question is at what cost. If the cost is too high then I imagine everyone will turn on Trump, but if the cost is barely noticeable you might see the opposite. Long term it could cement his legacy.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 06:08 PM
Who gives af what other countries think? Who says there's honor in war when dealing with a hostile enemy? Those countries are not our allies. There are already plenty of countries in the region eager and willing to do business with us and none of them give a shit about Iran. We go through leaders every 4-8 years so deals are expected to be renegotiated.
US/Israel isn't engaging in this war purely out of virtue, I would never assume that, but dealing a powerful blow to the anti-western radical Islamic power structure IS a bonus and a net positive for the world. The question is at what cost. If the cost is too high then I imagine everyone will turn on Trump, but if the cost is barely noticeable you might see the opposite. Long term it could cement his legacy.
mental gymnastics game is elite.
diamenz
06-18-2025, 06:17 PM
Iran is a major power center when it comes to our Islamic adversaries, so if Trump and his allies (handlers) believe the west is in a position of strength to weaken the mothership without much cost to us then what's the problem? If the cost becomes too great and the war ends up jeopardizing the safety and stability of our country, then sure it will have been a colossal failure and Trump will go out in shame. But do we know that's bound to happen?
What if Iran is defeated handily and without much sacrifice? You think the average person is going to care? I don't.
iran isn't our adversary. that's a deep state propaganda tool to fool americans into getting onboard with what we're facilitating in the middle east on behalf of israel. iran is israel's adversary and they're leveraging our size and strength in order wipe, what they see, as their enemies off the map and establish supremacy in the middle east. this is in regard to both iran and what they've been carrying out in gaza and the west bank.
israel wouldn't be doing what it's doing right now if they weren't reasonably confident that they had complete control over washington. if and when israel decides to declare that this conflict, that they started, is existential for them and the lobby presents the white house with that fait accompli, we'll have no choice at that point but to get involved. do you not see how this is a problem for us? the risk that this poses in today's world is too great... if we become directly involved, the temptation for other states to do so will be overwhelming. not the least of which being russia and china as you already mentioned due to their dependence on the oil & gas that comes through the persian gulf and won't allow the us to take control of, but also the other muslim states in the region because they'll see themselves as being next on the chopping block. russia has already been subjected to this by the same western warmongers. there's no appreciation for the depth of hostility and the readiness to push back against us that exists today in the world and iran has the potential to bring about that shitstorm.
diamenz
06-18-2025, 06:21 PM
I will give Baller234 credit for showing his face here though, all the other MAGATs are hiding because they were duped by Trump. Baller234 is embarrassing himself but at least he ain't hiding like the other rats like Chewing, Hey Yo, AW etc
baller knows better. he's too smart to not see this for what it is. he just can't get over his loyalty to trump until he absolutely has to.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 06:41 PM
baller knows better. he's too smart to not see this for what it is. he just can't get over his loyalty to trump until he absolutely has to.
cult status
Baller234
06-18-2025, 06:50 PM
baller knows better. he's too smart to not see this for what it is. he just can't get over his loyalty to trump until he absolutely has to.
What am I supposed to see? That Trump is Israel's lap dog?
Are you saying he's totally subservient to Israel and has no autonomy?
Baller234
06-18-2025, 07:02 PM
iran isn't our adversary. that's a deep state propaganda tool to fool americans into getting onboard with what we're facilitating in the middle east on behalf of israel. iran is israel's adversary and they're leveraging our size and strength in order wipe, what they see, as their enemies off the map and establish supremacy in the middle east. this is in regard to both iran and what they've been carrying out in gaza and the west bank.
israel wouldn't be doing what it's doing right now if they weren't reasonably confident that they had complete control over washington. if and when israel decides to declare that this conflict, that they started, is existential for them and the lobby presents the white house with that fait accompli, we'll have no choice at that point but to get involved. do you not see how this is a problem for us? the risk that this poses in today's world is too great... if we become directly involved, the temptation for other states to do so will be overwhelming. not the least of which being russia and china as you already mentioned due to their dependence on the oil & gas that comes through the persian gulf and won't allow the us to take control of, but also the other muslim states in the region because they'll see themselves as being next on the chopping block. russia has already been subjected to this by the same western warmongers. there's no appreciation for the depth of hostility and the readiness to push back against us that exists today in the world and iran has the potential to bring about that shitstorm.
If Iran is Israel's adversary wouldn't that make them our adversary too? Is Israel not our representative in the region? Just as China has a vested interest in the survival of Iran, doesn't the U.S. have a vested interest in the survival of Israel?
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 07:08 PM
If Iran is Israel's adversary wouldn't that make them our adversary too? Is Israel not our representative in the region? Just as China has a vested interest in the survival of Iran, doesn't the U.S. have a vested interest in the survival of Israel?
This is the entire point I think. Why do we need a "representative" in the region? It's not our region and shouldn't have anything to do with us.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 07:20 PM
This is the entire point I think. Why do we need a "representative" in the region? It's not our region and shouldn't have anything to do with us.
If Israel were wiped off the map, do you think that would be a good thing for us? Would that hurt our standing on the global stage?
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 07:21 PM
Why did we help the British and the French during World War II? It's not our war. It's not our region.
If we turn our back on Israel, then Israel gets wiped off the map.
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 07:29 PM
Why did we help the British and the French during World War II? It's not our war. It's not our region.
If we turn our back on Israel, then Israel gets wiped off the map.
Are you REALLY using that analogy? :lol
So weak, man. Go back and look at when and why we entered the war. For several years the mindset is no, it wasn't our region or our business. Until something very specific happened to us at the hands of one of the axis powers that you may or may not recall...
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 07:31 PM
If Israel were wiped off the map, do you think that would be a good thing for us? Would that hurt our standing on the global stage?
Short answer? No, not really. Especially if you don't believe that we are borderline controlled by them.
As it is though, tt would perhaps hurt us internally (and thus externally) because many of the powers that be in this country are intertwined with Israel and if we let that happen shit would go down.
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 07:32 PM
Are you REALLY using that analogy? :lol
So weak, man. Go back and look at when and why we entered the war. For several years the mindset is no, it wasn't our region or our business. Until something very specific happened to us at the hands of one of the axis powers that you may or may not recall...
Are you referring to Pearl Harbor? Well, that was the Japanese, son. But why did we go to France and England and Germany to defeat the Germans? Not our region. Not our war.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 07:35 PM
Are you referring to Pearl Harbor? Well, that was the Japanese, son. But why did we go to France and England and Germany to defeat the Germans? Not our region. Not our war.
:facepalm wow
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 07:36 PM
Are you referring to Pearl Harbor? Well, that was the Japanese, son. But why did we go to France and England and Germany to defeat the Germans? Not our region. Not our war.
You should probably watch a few more WWII documentaries :lol
Or better yet, read a few books. A lot more detail in those.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 07:37 PM
Short answer? No, not really. Especially if you don't believe that we are borderline controlled by them.
As it is though, tt would perhaps hurt us internally (and thus externally) because many of the powers that be in this country are intertwined with Israel and if we let that happen shit would go down.
Okay I'll bite. Let's say Israel is really running the show and that they have their hooks in Trump and all the top U.S. officials. What does Israel have to gain by starting WW3? Don't they jeopardize themselves as well? What's their brilliant plan then?
Genuinely asking here.
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 07:39 PM
Okay I'll bite. Let's say Israel is really running the show and that they have their hooks in Trump and all the top U.S. officials. What does Israel have to gain by starting WW3? Don't they jeopardize themselves as well? What's their brilliant plan then?
Genuinely asking here.
Who said they'd want that?
I don't know what their plan is, but it certainly doesn't benefit us.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 07:43 PM
Who said they'd want that?
I don't know what their plan is, but it certainly doesn't benefit us.
Isn't that literally what everyone is saying?
If the risk of WW3 is off the table, what's the problem then? Why wouldn't US/Israel take this opportunity to strengthen their position and strike a powerful blow to one of it's enemies?
highwhey
06-18-2025, 07:49 PM
so trump is likely going to go through with it
BREAKING via ABC NEWS
“President Donald Trump is getting comfortable with the idea of taking out Iran's Fordo nuclear facility. It would not be just one strike on the facility, it would be several. There is now a movement to get ready for this.”
Trump pressed aides on whether the bunker-buster plan to bomb Iran's Fordow nuclear facility will work. Pentagon officials told him they were confident it would.
@MarcACaputo
and I write for
@axios
its wild that the entire premise of this conflict is blatantly false and actually just a projection, bc israel actually has nukes and has proven to be more reckless than iran. :facepalm
highwhey
06-18-2025, 08:15 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/9xuch0.jpg
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 08:20 PM
You should probably watch a few more WWII documentaries :lol
Or better yet, read a few books. A lot more detail in those.
Nope. It's the same damn reason why we aid our allies today. To never allow a country like Nazi Germany to move on other nations like that again.
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 08:21 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/9xuch0.jpg
The dumbest take ever. The people of Iran want their leadership deposed. You're supporting a terrorist state that oppresses its people. How are you so twisted on this issue that you're supporting Iran??
highwhey
06-18-2025, 08:33 PM
The dumbest take ever. The people of Iran want their leadership deposed. You're supporting a terrorist state that oppresses its people. How are you so twisted on this issue that you're supporting Iran??
ahhh yes. according to western media. i wonder who controls them. :rolleyes:
Baller234
06-18-2025, 08:36 PM
ahhh yes. according to western media. i wonder who controls them. :rolleyes:
So Iran is the hero in your story?
TheMan
06-18-2025, 08:38 PM
Who gives af what other countries think? Who says there's honor in war when dealing with a hostile enemy? Those countries are not our allies. There are already plenty of countries in the region eager and willing to do business with us and none of them give a shit about Iran. We go through leaders every 4-8 years so deals are expected to be renegotiated.
US/Israel isn't engaging in this war purely out of virtue, I would never assume that, but dealing a powerful blow to the anti-western radical Islamic power structure IS a bonus and a net positive for the world. The question is at what cost. If the cost is too high then I imagine everyone will turn on Trump, but if the cost is barely noticeable you might see the opposite. Long term it could cement his legacy.
:roll:
highwhey
06-18-2025, 08:38 PM
So Iran is the hero in your story?
nah, iran was just provoked after being accused of being close to having a nuke for the 100th time (netanyahu has been making that claim since the 90s btw, there's video). israel attacked them and started this conflict. israel has killed like 70 palestinians in the past 24 hours btw, unarmed civialians.
you're an idiot though so i will end this here.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 08:41 PM
nah, iran was just provoked after being accused of being close to having a nuke for the 100th time (netanyahu has been making that claim since the 90s btw, there's video). israel attacked them and started this conflict. israel has killed like 70 palestinians in the past 24 hours btw, unarmed civialians.
you're an idiot though so i will end this here.
The meme you shared was clearly intended to frame Iran as the hero.
highwhey
06-18-2025, 08:46 PM
The meme you shared was clearly intended to frame Iran as the hero.
well that's just your conscience projecting to you the reality of the situation. the jews have wrangled in trump, likely using blackmail, to end this conflict. iran is about to be steamrolled by a world super power, no allies standing behind their back. meanwhile, israel who began this entire conflict, pulled a draymond after game 7 loss calling KD in tears to help him out. dumb bitches couldn't finish what they started so they are relying on american taxpayer dollars to finish this for them.
there is no hero in this conflict, but if we had to assign likeness of one, it sure as hell isn't the aggressors (israel, us).
TheMan
06-18-2025, 08:48 PM
What am I supposed to see? That Trump is Israel's lap dog?
Are you saying he's totally subservient to Israel and has no autonomy?
Ding ding ding!!!
The Neo Cons at the Pentagon want war, that's their nature...I honestly don't think Trump is really excited about going to war again but no one has mentioned this here but I think it's worth mentioning...Epstein, along with being a pedo and Trump's bestie for over a decade, was also Mossad, and boy do they have some real serious and dark shit on Trump if Bibi is stringing him along by the nose this effortlessly...if that's the case, war is a guarantee.
And it's going to be a world class clusterfukk
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 08:48 PM
Nope. It's the same damn reason why we aid our allies today. To never allow a country like Nazi Germany to move on other nations like that again.
Okay I won’t explain the scope of WWII to you and Japans part in it.
Just going off of what you’ve said…who Nazi Germany here?
diamenz
06-18-2025, 08:52 PM
If Iran is Israel's adversary wouldn't that make them our adversary too? Is Israel not our representative in the region? Just as China has a vested interest in the survival of Iran, doesn't the U.S. have a vested interest in the survival of Israel?
our "representative" in the region? of what exactly? mass murder and ethnic cleansing?
you're asking me if china's interests in keeping their economy stable and humming is comparable to the so called intelligence that we get from israel in regard to things like iraqi wmd's and failing to prevent some broke ass thugs from carrying out oct 7th?
Baller234
06-18-2025, 08:53 PM
Ding ding ding!!!
The Neo Cons want war at the Pentagon, that's their nature...I honestly don't think Trump is really excited about going to war again but no one has mentioned this here but I think it's worth mentioning...Epstein, along with being a pedo and Trump's bestie for over a decade, was also Mossad, and boy do they have some real serious and dark shit on Trump if Bibi is stringing him along by the nose...if that's the case, war is a guarantee.
And it's going to be a world class clusterfukk
So Trump is owned by Israel because they're holding the Epstein stuff over him and that's why he can't rein them in?
Okay I'll bite again. Let's assume that's the case, didn't Israel start going ham under Biden's watch first? How come he didn't rein them in either? Was he on the Epstein tapes playing footsies with minors too?
Again genuinely asking here.
diamenz
06-18-2025, 08:54 PM
this shouldn't be a hard choice but if you don't want to take it from me, you've got the actual america first crowd among the likes of steve bannon, tucker carlson and MTG arguing against all of this and then you have ben shapiro and the fox news neocons on the other side arguing for it. if that doesn't clue you in, then i don't know what else to tell you.
TheMan
06-18-2025, 09:02 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/9xuch0.jpg
The scary thought isn't only Iran, Pakistan, a nuclear power is warning Israel to stop their aggression vs Iran or face dire consequences. Then behind Iran you have the Russians and Chinese...this is pure insanity.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 09:04 PM
this shouldn't be a hard choice but if you don't want to take it from me, you've got the actual america first crowd among the likes of steve bannon, tucker carlson and MTG arguing against all of this and then you have ben shapiro and the fox news neocons on the other side arguing for it. if that doesn't clue you in, then i don't know what else to tell you.
Huh? What kind of argument is this? I have agreed and disagreed with all of those individuals on a variety of subjects.
I'm supposed to get in line because MTG said so?
highwhey
06-18-2025, 09:06 PM
Huh? What kind of argument is this? I have agreed and disagreed with all of those individuals on a variety of subjects.
I'm supposed to get in line because MTG said so?
you're getting in line bc trump said so pal. your lack of self awareness is astounding.
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 09:06 PM
So Iran is the hero in your story?
He's just trolling at this point. Ignore him.
diamenz
06-18-2025, 09:08 PM
Huh? What kind of argument is this? I have agreed and disagreed with all of those individuals on a variety of subjects.
I'm supposed to get in line because MTG said so?
which group do you think is more aligned with america's interests?
Patrick Chewing
06-18-2025, 09:08 PM
Okay I won’t explain the scope of WWII to you and Japans part in it.
Just going off of what you’ve said…who Nazi Germany here?
It's Iran and their proxies for sure. Combine that with all the neo-Nazis in the United States and right here on this forum, and it's pretty substantial opposition to Israel. But yeah, let's stand back and watch the Jews get decimated again.
TheMan
06-18-2025, 09:08 PM
So Trump is owned by Israel because they're holding the Epstein stuff over him and that's why he can't rein them in?
Okay I'll bite again. Let's assume that's the case, didn't Israel start going ham under Biden's watch first? How come he didn't rein them in either? Was he on the Epstein tapes playing footsies with minors too?
Again genuinely asking here.
They were going ham on the Palestinians, they're easy targets. They're now going after their main enemy, Iran, coincidentally after Trump got in power and we all know the Zionists wanted Trump even when Biden was letting them run roughshod in Gaza. They clearly have dirt on Trump, and we will be going to war and this shit will be a disaster, for all parties involved.
After all the failures recently, it's insane you would even consider that Iran would fold easily and we wouldn't incur any "pain", as you put it. Gas prices would go through the roof immediately, and with that, everything else. Trump is playing with fire, but he's too dense to realize it.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 09:10 PM
you're getting in line bc trump said so pal. your lack of self awareness is astounding.
So then why bother debating at all?
Why don't you just say "I'm right because (insert person here) says so.."
And then I'll respond by saying, "I'm right because Donald Trump says so..."
This way we can stop having to worry about those pesky "facts" and just let our imaginations run wild.
Doomsday Dallas
06-18-2025, 09:13 PM
It's about time for Kim Jong Un to enter this fight.
Axis of Evil my friends.... don't forget about North Korea.
ShawkFactory
06-18-2025, 09:16 PM
It's Iran and their proxies for sure. Combine that with all the neo-Nazis in the United States and right here on this forum, and it's pretty substantial opposition to Israel. But yeah, let's stand back and watch the Jews get decimated again.
Yea…not the same thing. In the slightest.
TheMan
06-18-2025, 09:20 PM
Another thing to consider, last time the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, they had alliances with NATO allies that helped with heavy lifting. This time it's only the US and the Zionists, and guess who will have to do the heavy lifting eventually? To control a country, you have to have boots on the ground, lots of them, you can't defeat a country as big as Iran by air strikes alone...it ain't going to be the Jews taking out enemy combatants in Tehran, it's going to be US troops.
The only way we can stop this stupidity is by charging and arresting politicians who drag us into wars under false pretenses, should have gone after the GWBush warmongers to put an end to this madness. All things fair, Netanyahu and Trump should be charged with crimes against humanity if they go through with their war crimes.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 09:20 PM
They were going ham on the Palestinians, they're easy targets. They're now going after their main enemy, Iran, coincidentally after Trump got in power and we all know the Zionists wanted Trump even when Biden was letting them run roughshod in Gaza. They clearly have dirt on Trump, and we will be going to war and this shit will be a disaster, for all parties involved.
After all the failures recently, it's insane you would even consider that Iran would fold and we wouldn't incur any "pain", as you put it. Gas prices would go through the roof immediately, and with that, everything else. Trump is playing with fire, but he's too dense to realize it.
I could just as easily argue that Israel didn't start going ham until Biden "coincidentally" came into power. That's not proof of anything whatsoever.
Meanwhile, of all the possible nightmare scenarios that could arise from this war, your default answer was rising gas prices? Don't get me wrong that wouldn't be ideal, but THAT'S your biggest concern? Didn't gas prices soar when Biden was president too?
Baller234
06-18-2025, 09:23 PM
which group do you think is more aligned with america's interests?
That's a ridiculous question.
I don't agree with Ben Shapiro when it comes to everything but I don't think he is an enemy of America.
TheMan
06-18-2025, 09:28 PM
I could just as easily argue that Israel didn't start going ham until Biden "coincidentally" came into power. That's not proof of anything whatsoever.
Meanwhile, of all the possible nightmare scenarios that could arise from this war, your default answer was rising gas prices? Don't get me wrong that wouldn't be ideal, but THAT'S your biggest concern? Didn't gas prices soar when Biden was president too?
You said that if war vs Iran went without "pain" and it ended rather easily, which in no way shape or form is that an actual realistic possibility, I mentioned that gas prices would skyrocket, along with everything else, in a best case scenario. That is incurring pain, no? Obviously worst case scenario is unthinkable, the end of modern civilization as we know it...the risks are too high, the net gains of a possible best case scenario aren't worth the lives of millions.
Trump could literally be the last US president in a worst case scenario that is on the table, a real possibility
Baller234
06-18-2025, 09:33 PM
You said that if war vs Iran went without "pain" and it ended rather easily, which in no way shape oform is that an actual possibility, I mentioned that gas prices would skyrocket, along with everything else, in the best case scenario. That is incurring pain, no? Obviously worst case scenario, the endo of modern civilization as we know it...the risks are too high, the net gain of a possible best case scenario aren't worth the lives of millions.
Trump could literally be the last US president lol
Well then if the economy totally craters and the cost of living goes through the roof, you won't need to do much convincing then. The people will naturally turn on Trump. It would have to be real economic pain though, not the type you imagine with your friends at "no kings". It wasn't long ago when you guys were swearing the stock market would never recover and that we were right on the verge of a depression.
But again I have to ask, what does Israel have to gain by weakening America's position? Don't they rely on our military and our protection? If America is weakened financially or otherwise, isn't that bad for Israel too?
Doomsday Dallas
06-18-2025, 09:36 PM
There's still a chance Trump goes rogue and breaks the oath with the Elders of Zion.... He's still a king sith lord of the Knight's Templar.
I've seen some foreshadowing of that in a Hollywood film... but it would ultimately lead to his death. (save his reputation though, maybe).
It's not that the Jews have dirt on Trump from what I've researched.... It's that the Jews bailed him out when he was close to a $Billion Dollars in debt...
Who financed and owned Trump after that? The Jewish Elite.
Doomsday Dallas
06-18-2025, 09:42 PM
But again I have to ask, what does Israel have to gain by weakening America's position? Don't they rely on our military and our protection? If America is weakened financially or otherwise, isn't that bad for Israel too?
Not if it ultimately leads to Globalism.
That's the aftermath of all this war.... Globalism will be the solution.
Baller234
06-18-2025, 10:15 PM
Not if it ultimately leads to Globalism.
That's the aftermath of all this war.... Globalism will be the solution.
Well then someone better remind the board lefties then. If that's the case you would think this would be a cause for celebration.
No more countries and their pesky "borders".
highwhey
06-18-2025, 10:35 PM
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