PDA

View Full Version : +2800 preseason odds for 15' Warriors, yet everyone said "STACKED" after they won



3ba11
06-15-2025, 11:38 AM
It's called being "results-oriented".

The consensus was that the Warriors were a weak roster with +2800 odds in the preseason, so Curry simply carried them to 67 and 73 wins by having unprecedented domination (unanimous MVP)..

Curry actually won with a sidekick that produced far less than Jeff Hornacek (Klay), which shows how weak the roster was.

This matters because it means that KD didn't join a "stacked" roster and his addition merely made the talent more equal to the Cavs.. The 17' Finals should've been a clash of titans like the 80's Celtics/Lakers, but Lebron only won 53 games, so they were big underdogs...

Lebron's history is to barely win 50 games with the preseason favorite from 11' to 16', thus falling to Finals underdog... So his Finals underdog status is due to weak regular seasons (bad basketball), and not his rosters, since the rosters are initially favored as the preseason favorite..

1987_Lakers
06-15-2025, 11:43 AM
1994 preseason odds had the Bulls winning 44 games without MJ, they won 55. Vegas underestimated how good the Bulls were without Jordan.

3ba11
06-15-2025, 12:07 PM
1994 preseason odds had the Bulls winning 44 games without MJ, they won 55. Vegas underestimated how good the Bulls were without Jordan.


Playing MJ was the biggest day of a player's life, so look how much guys get up for playing MJ - this was GONE in 94':


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SpukTccy4Zg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=weFNwgDzGBo&t=01m25s
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/6OJHHbAeCqs
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ICPv9YDFqzU


So the 94' Bulls were the biggest "letdown" game of all time.. No one gave 2 bird shits about playing them..

But when opponents woke up in the playoffs and following season, the Bulls were 2nd Round losers and barely.500 in 95'.

Pippen was never a "franchise player" that was tasked with building a team from scratch.. He was simply handed a fully-developed goat dynasty, which he cratered to barely .500 in less than 18 months.. Any team with Pippen as the leading scorer will lack capacity to add talent because any decent scorer will supplant Pippen as 1st option.

Full Court
06-15-2025, 10:29 PM
I remember in '22 that Lebron and the Lakers were the pre-season favorites to win the West.


Then they ended up on the lottery.

Think about it.....he led a SUPER TEAM to the LOTTERY!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. PiUBEmH37nNThKjy0h8tqwHaFj%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=c9362b88e903c15db8ba5a6ea44572f354704f2e98bda5 7ec22ce2aaf3d9a59a&ipo=images
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fproxy %2FIHDF_X85bmAa4SPmzClSl5j0fyZ5QTRsp70cgeHItYH2HXD sBig_m79sg1tI49c-_84ZWijvr_oDtmD2d9oqy39qTCYipS7Tv5H5Ui-icgrE9eCW%3Ds0-d&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0121f96bfa61b731ecf68d01c4abcefc527cddb948479f 2b1a6c0245b3dd6021&ipo=images
"I did that."