Why “no one plays defense in the NBA” Thinking Basketball

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwzHW-c5h7M

[warriorfan]

I’m pretty sure that guy had kevin garnet in his top 5 of all time or some shit like that.

He should change his channel name to Overthinking Basketball

[1987_Lakers]

I’m pretty sure that guy had kevin garnet in his top 5 of all time or some shit like that.

He should change his channel name to Overthinking Basketball

#8, list was from 2017. Pretty sure he has Curry ahead of him now considering he put Curry ahead of KG in his peak project a couple of years ago.

[3ba11]

This guy was exposed as a fraud and debunked for pretending that he had play-by-play data from the 80's

A confirmed fraud and another "I never played" nerd that only cottoned on to basketball when the 3-point revolution and Curry era began - three-pointers attracted a lot of casual nerds that don't appreciate real basketball.. They just love seeing threes (baby-brained).

I didn't watch the video and would never waste my time, in part because Adam Silver mandated no defense with the "no impede" rule in 2017... defenders could no longer impede the ball-handler from going where they wanted, aka defense was banned... It's literally in the rules... Cutters off the ball also couldn't be bumped anymore or impeded.. So I could care 2 bird shits what this fraudulent YouTuber has to say... He never went within 10 feet of a spherical object in his life, let alone a basketball.

[1987_Lakers]

This guy was exposed as a fraud and debunked for pretending that he had play-by-play data from the 80's

A confirmed fraud and another "I never played" nerd that only cottoned on to basketball when the 3-point revolution and Curry era began - three-pointers attracted a lot of casual nerds that don't appreciate real basketball.. They just love seeing threes (baby-brained).

I didn't watch the video and would never waste my time, in part because Adam Silver mandated no defense with the "no impede" rule in 2017... defenders could no longer impede the ball-handler from going where they wanted, aka defense was banned... It's literally in the rules... Cutters off the ball also couldn't be bumped anymore or impeded.. So I could care 2 bird shits what this fraudulent YouTuber has to say... He never went within 10 feet of a spherical object in his life, let alone a basketball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqGDLV-do9c&t

[warriorfan]

This guy was exposed as a fraud and debunked for pretending that he had play-by-play data from the 80's

A confirmed fraud and another "I never played" nerd that only cottoned on to basketball when the 3-point revolution and Curry era began - three-pointers attracted a lot of casual nerds that don't appreciate real basketball.. They just love seeing threes (baby-brained).

I didn't watch the video and would never waste my time, in part because Adam Silver mandated no defense with the "no impede" rule in 2017... defenders could no longer impede the ball-handler from going where they wanted, aka defense was banned... It's literally in the rules... Cutters off the ball also couldn't be bumped anymore or impeded.. So I could care 2 bird shits what this fraudulent YouTuber has to say... He never went within 10 feet of a spherical object in his life, let alone a basketball.

He makes takes based purely off stats and then will cherry pick clips to support it.

He basically has no eye test and doesn’t contextualize his obscure statistics properly.

[1987_Lakers]

He makes takes based purely off stats and then will cherry pick clips to support it.

He basically has no eye test and doesn’t contextualize his obscure statistics properly.

Besides him overrating KG, his analysis of players are pretty much spot on. I appreciate him highlighting and giving examples of how dominant guys like Walton, Hakeem, and Robinson were on defense while guys like Kareem and Shaq had more weaknesses on that end, which is spot on. I use defense as an example because that side of the ball relies more on the eye test. Also gives examples to why peak LeBron was a better defender than peak MJ which is something I have been saying for years. The latter opinion is one of the reasons why you and 3ball don’t like him, which isn’t surprising.

[3ba11]

Besides him overrating KG, his analysis of players are pretty much spot on. I appreciate him highlighting and giving examples of how dominant guys like Walton, Hakeem, and Robinson were on defense while guys like Kareem and Shaq had more weaknesses on that end, which is spot on. I use defense as an example because that side of the ball relies more on the eye test. Also gives examples to why peak LeBron was a better defender than peak MJ which is something I have been saying for years. The latter opinion is one of the reasons why you and 3ball don’t like him, which isn’t surprising.


I don't like him because he said MJ's casts were "actually good" but then snuck in there that they were infact in the 0 percentiles of cast (better than 0% of casts).

Without getting into further detail, his entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi

[1987_Lakers]

I don't like him because he said MJ's casts were "actually good" but then snuck in there that they were infact in the 0 percentiles of cast (better than 0% of casts).

Without getting into further detail, his entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi

This is false. He said his teammates were at the 0 percentiles from '88-'90 then jumped to 75th percentile in their championship years from '91-'93, his teammates were also outscoring teams during the championship years whenever MJ was on the bench. You could see the chart in the last vid I posted at the 12:15 mark.

Fact is, you are just butt hurt his analysis didn't go the way you hoped for.

[3ba11]

This is false. He said his teammates were at the 0 percentiles from '88-'90 then jumped to 75th percentile in their championship years from '91-'93, his teammates were also outscoring teams during the championship years whenever MJ was on the bench. You could see the chart in the last vid I posted at the 12:15 mark.

Fact is, you are just butt hurt his analysis didn't go the way you hoped for.


^^ 75th percentile means that mj's championship casts were still worse than 1/4 of the league - that's a bad cast for a champion, let alone the goat team/dynasty and 3-peat champion... And he nearly beat the Bad Boys in 90' with a 0 percentile cast, according to this fraud.

so everything he said about MJ's cast makes them a bad cast, yet he just pretended it was good because anything that fills the airwaves is good enough for a Lebron fraud victim.. Substance isn't required - just say you're against MJ and that's enough - then just spout bs and watch bronnie fluffers drink it up.. But anyone that was around in the 90's knows that the Bulls were a 1-man team with low-producers as teammates that MJ had to carry - the stats show that clearly.. Even this fraud's stats.

[1987_Lakers]

I don't like him because he said MJ's casts were "actually good" but then snuck in there that they were infact in the 0 percentiles of cast (better than 0% of casts).

Without getting into further detail, his entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi


^^ 75th percentile means that mj's championship casts were still worse than 1/4 of the league

So now you are contradicting what you just stated. You thought you could sneak in a little lie without being noticed.

Your entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi.

[3ba11]

So now you are contradicting what you just stated. You thought you could sneak in a little lie without being noticed.

Your entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi.


His numbers are fabricated with zero back-up.

I'm just using his own numbers to show that his premise of MJ's casts being good is false.

And it really wasn't that hard for me to do it either.

[1987_Lakers]

His numbers are fabricated with zero back-up.

I'm just using his own numbers to show that his premise of MJ's casts being good is false.

And it really wasn't that hard for me to do it either.
You literally just got caught fabricating what his numbers actually were.

1-9

[3ba11]

You literally just got caught fabricating what his numbers actually were.

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I was right... I said that he claimed they were a zero percentile cast, WHICH HE DID.

you're just lying that I made something up.

the fact that he claims the number jumped to 75% means the goat dynasty of all-time was still worse than 1 in 4 casts, so that means all of the 2nd Round and conference final teams, aka MJ GOAT.

but all of these numbers are based on play-by-play data that doesn't exist - that's why the numbers seem ridiculous - it's because they are.. they're complete fabrications..

[1987_Lakers]

I was right... I said that he claimed they were a zero percentile cast, WHICH HE DID.

you're just lying that I made something up.


I don't like him because he said MJ's casts were "actually good" but then snuck in there that they were infact in the 0 percentiles of cast (better than 0% of casts).

Without getting into further detail, his entire analysis is bogus and a fugazi

I just showed you he indeed got further into detail, as evident to his 75th percentile of cast from '91-'93. Which is something you totally ignored.

Thread cliffs: 3ball lied and was exposed.

[3ba11]

I just showed you he indeed got further into detail, as evident to his 75th percentile of cast from '91-'93. Which is something you totally ignored.

Thread cliffs: 3ball lied and was exposed.


75% means the goat dynasty of all-time was worse than 1 in 4 casts, which means all of the 2nd Round and conference finals teams.

so again, his own numbers show that MJ's casts were trash, whether we're talking about championship casts (your deflection) or his pre-title casts (the original point and what I was referencing)

so again, you were defrauded and fell for a fake goat... the biggest fake goat in history - that's how Lebron will be remembered - for producing a fake debate that he was destroyed and embarassed in.

[Meticode]

#8, list was from 2017. Pretty sure he has Curry ahead of him now considering he put Curry ahead of KG in his peak project a couple of years ago.

Now that's something he can get behind besides Curry's taint.

[1987_Lakers]

I just showed you he indeed got further into detail, as evident to his 75th percentile of cast from '91-'93. Which is something you totally ignored.

Thread cliffs: 3ball lied and was exposed.

Forgot to add, 1-9.

[3ba11]

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Thread Cliffs (vetted by 1987_Lakers & 3ba11)


Thinking Basketball's stats show that the cast of the 1st three-peat was 1st Round-caliber, since it was 75th percentile and therefore worse than 1 in 4 casts, or all the 2nd Round teams (1/4 of the league).

Of course, the video is bogus because it is based on play-by-play data that doesn't exist.. But even using the fake numbers, we see that the 1st three-peat Bulls had a 1st Round caliber cast that was worse than all 2nd Round teams (75th percentile)