Who is calling the shots? Trump or Israel?

[Baller234]

Who is leading who?

Speak your facts, not your opinions.

Wild conspiracy theories are welcome if they are backed up by facts.

[highwhey]

the country that drew first blood (israel), then dragged the USA into their conflict.

[diamenz]

any us action ultimately falls on the president but the weight and influence of the lobby is so immense due to not just the money flow but military action set in motion by israel as well as pieces carefully placed that's designed to force his hand; that even if he were deadset on resisting, especially in a scenario such as the current one, in the end it would be futile. the lobby always wins, whether it be tomorrow or the next decade. netanyahu knows this and he's effective at manipulating this power.

[BigKobeFan]

Both saudi and israel

[Doomsday Dallas]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

[Bill Gates]

Neither, the US Military-Industrial Complex is calling the shots. They do not care who the POTUS is. This war would be happening under Kamala or literally anyone else.

I suppose that is sort of a "conspiracy theory" but it really isn't. It is the only way it could be really. They are the ones with all the intel, not the POTUS, and TBH it makes way more sense for them to be calling the shots.

[Baller234]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

Jews run Hollywood because the jews built Hollywood. It doesn't mean there's a grand scheme tied to Israel. Kyrie Irving having his documentary banned could have been the decision of some woke jew exec who got offended for all we know.

Also what about Weinstein? Was he part of the club too? If so then why is he in jail now? Why couldn't he just use his jew card?

So basically you're saying that the jews are responsible for every monumental world war and world happening since the dawn of the 20th century? That they are evil puppet masters with wizard like ability to manipulate everyone around the globe into doing their bidding?

9/11 for example, that was the jews acting through Osama Bin Laden? And Pearl Harbor, that was the jews acting through the japanese?

[Doomsday Dallas]

Jews run Hollywood because the jews built Hollywood. It doesn't mean there's a grand scheme tied to Israel. Kyrie Irving having his documentary banned could have been the decision of some woke jew exec who got offended for all we know.

Also what about Weinstein? Was he part of the club too? If so then why is he in jail now? Why couldn't he just use his jew card?

So basically you're saying that the jews are responsible for every monumental world war and world happening since the dawn of the 20th century? That they are evil puppet masters with wizard like ability to manipulate everyone around the globe into doing their bidding?

9/11 for example, that was the jews acting through Osama Bin Laden? And Pearl Harbor, that was the jews acting through the japanese?



There is an element of sorcery and witchcraft behind it…

Some will dispute it’s not the Jews, it’s just a group of Luciferians….

We know the Nazi’s were into the occult too, same as the Vatican… same as the Masons.

All im saying, from my research, Jews have perfected the craft. (And obviously I’m not calling out the entire Jewish population, but there is a faction that has sold out to the occult)

[Baller234]

There is an element of sorcery and witchcraft behind it…

Some will dispute it’s not the Jews, it’s just a group of Luciferians….

We know the Nazi’s were into the occult too, same as the Vatican… same as the Masons.

All im saying, from my research, Jews have perfected the craft. (And obviously I’m not calling out the entire Jewish population, but there is a faction that has sold out to the occult)

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[TheMan]

I’ve been calling out Israel and getting banned for speaking negatively on the Jews since 2007. My track record speaks for itself.

They own the MSM, they own our entertainment industry, and clearly they own our politicians.

The facts of WWI and WWII are to be disputed… but ultimately it led to the formation of an Israeli State in 1948, and the UN being founded as well. This was by design.

Then you have the Biblical account… which is a long story.

Oh… and then you have controversy that the original Jews were black, and not the Jews we see today. Kyrie Irving makes references of a movie pointing this out and gets suspended indefinitely.

There were Jews celebrating in NY as the towers fell, and this is documented as fact. They got taken into custody because they were celebrating… not to mention there were Mossad vans in the area of NY (with logos of airplanes on them) if you do your research.


Israel owns our ass… and Netanyahu has said it himself.

That original Jews were black is total bunk, but in terms of genetics, the Palestinian people are way more closer genetically to the original Jews who've always been in Palestine than the colonizers who moved there from Russia and Eastern Europe when the state of Israel was illegally created. Most of the Zionists are Europeans impersonating Jews.

[Baller234]

any us action ultimately falls on the president but the weight and influence of the lobby is so immense due to not just the money flow but military action set in motion by israel as well as pieces carefully placed that's designed to force his hand; that even if he were deadset on resisting, especially in a scenario such as the current one, in the end it would be futile. the lobby always wins, whether it be tomorrow or the next decade. netanyahu knows this and he's effective at manipulating this power.

This is the most plausible theory I have heard so far. Not saying I agree or disagree, but it's as plausible a theory as any.

So if we're to follow this logic, how far do you think Trump can be pushed? Do you believe he can he be coerced into a suicide mission?

[TheMan]

Neither, the US Military-Industrial Complex is calling the shots. They do not care who the POTUS is. This war would be happening under Kamala or literally anyone else.

I suppose that is sort of a "conspiracy theory" but it really isn't. It is the only way it could be really. They are the ones with all the intel, not the POTUS, and TBH it makes way more sense for them to be calling the shots.

This is an insane take.

The military industrial complex only cares about making war, war is profitable for these goons, do you really believe this is about knocking out Iran's nuclear bombs program??? LMAO The Zionists are the only ones in that region that have amassed illegal nuclear bombs, they've been called out numerous times by the nuclear community but because they're shielded by the world's biggest bully, they feel untouchable, and rightly so, they own DC.

[Bill Gates]

This is an insane take.

The military industrial complex only cares about making war, war is profitable for these goons, do you really believe this is about knocking out Iran's nuclear bombs program??? LMAO The Zionists are the only ones in that region that have amassed illegal nuclear bombs, they've been called out numerous times by the nuclear community but because they're shielded by the world's biggest bully, they feel untouchable, and rightly so, they own DC.

You're backing my point :confusedshrug:

Israel wouldn't be doing anything without the US backing, and like you said "war is profitable for these goons". So yeah. They are running the show here. Maybe you misread my post or something.

[TheMan]

You're backing my point :confusedshrug:

Israel wouldn't be doing anything without the US backing, and like you said "war is profitable for these goons". So yeah. They are running the show here. Maybe you misread my post or something.

Ok, I thought you were saying it's ok for the MIC to call the shots because they had legit intel Iran was making bombs...my bad

[Bill Gates]

The true motives behind it can only be unknown to us though. Maybe there is a legit nuclear threat, maybe there isn't. A poster in here acting as though they have all the insight into that kind of intel just can't be taken seriously.

We can see already though, that Trump is commanding the US oil producers to produce more. So we do know wealth is at least part of the equation here.

[Bill Gates]

Ok, I thought you were saying it's ok for the MIC to call the shots because they had legit intel Iran was making bombs...my bad

Well, I did say it makes more sense for them to call the shots than the POTUS who essentially walks into it knowing jack shit.

[Bill Gates]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114732948019406900

These your "goons" words TheMan. Trump is posting it here, and he is on board, but the source is not him.

The US wants to take over Iran's exports.

This is the exact same thing that happened with Russia- Ukraine. The US took over Russia's exports. It happened under Biden. Same situation, different POTUS. They don't care who the POTUS is.

[Bill Gates]

What happens in almost all of these situations, is that a conflict arises somewhere in the world. Like Russia - Ukraine. Like Israel - Iran. And the US Military Complex, being the powerhouse that it is, likes to thrust itself into the situation as the "world police" and take advantage of the conflict in some way. Gaining wealth.

It is absolutely possible though, that Iran is becoming too dangerous in terms of nuclear weapons. It is also possible that they are not.

[Doomsday Dallas]

That original Jews were black is total bunk, but in terms of genetics, the Palestinian people are way more closer genetically to the original Jews who've always been in Palestine than the colonizers who moved there from Russia and Eastern Europe when the state of Israel was illegally created. Most of the Zionists are Europeans impersonating Jews.



Ok…. Black or not, The original Jews are not the folks in Israel today.

It’s not the same bloodline or descendants…. And they are definitely not God’s chosen people.

[TheMan]

Ok…. Black or not, The original Jews are not the folks in Israel today.

It’s not the same bloodline or descendants…. And they are definitely not God’s chosen people.

We agree on something

[jstern]

Jews run Hollywood because the jews built Hollywood. It doesn't mean there's a grand scheme tied to Israel. Kyrie Irving having his documentary banned could have been the decision of some woke jew exec who got offended for all we know.

Also what about Weinstein? Was he part of the club too? If so then why is he in jail now? Why couldn't he just use his jew card?

So basically you're saying that the jews are responsible for every monumental world war and world happening since the dawn of the 20th century? That they are evil puppet masters with wizard like ability to manipulate everyone around the globe into doing their bidding?

9/11 for example, that was the jews acting through Osama Bin Laden? And Pearl Harbor, that was the jews acting through the japanese?

For Israel to run the way it runs, controlling the narrative is a matter of life and death. Like evolution, it would not exist in its current form without it.

In the 1920s, Jewish immigrants built the major studios from the ground up. Their influence was quickly used to support the Zionist project. Studio heads like Barney Balaban of Paramount Pictures organized massive fundraisers, using their movie stars and connections to raise tens of millions of dollars to fund Jewish immigration to Palestine. He then went on to help found AIPAC.

But the most important part, again, was to shape the narrative. Hollywood created a romanticized, heroic story about the creation of Israel. The Exodus, which came out in 1956 was based on a racist novel, but the movie completely removed the Nakba (Ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Palestinians in 1948.) In the movie version, the Jewish hero begs, pleads the Arabs to stay as equal citizens, but the Arabs refuse and leave on their own. It wrote Palestinians out of their own history for Americans. And this is before the internet, so 100% effective.

Then in the 60s, the propaganda shifted to instead of just ignoring the Palestinians, Hollywood began portraying Arabs as irrational, evil, terrorist who hate us for our freedom. Dehumanizing, casting and associating Arabs as one dimensional bad guys. It's very effective, even during the internet age, since the vast majority of people are not going to randomly research these things. It makes it easier to justify sanctions and war.

The constant negative portrayal, Hollywood's global reach, has conditioned the American public to view Arabs and Muslims with being backward terrorists. It aligns public opinion with a pro Israel political narrative.

If an actor in Hollywood expresses support for Palestine or calls for a "free Palestine," it's belligerently misinterpreted as a call for the genocide of Jews. Anyone who challenges the narrative faces career repercussions, so who's going to?

[TheMan]

For Israel to run the way it runs, controlling the narrative is a matter of life and death. Like evolution, it would not exist in its current form without it.

In the 1920s, Jewish immigrants built the major studios from the ground up. Their influence was quickly used to support the Zionist project. Studio heads like Barney Balaban of Paramount Pictures organized massive fundraisers, using their movie stars and connections to raise tens of millions of dollars to fund Jewish immigration to Palestine. He then went on to help found AIPAC.

But the most important part, again, was to shape the narrative. Hollywood created a romanticized, heroic story about the creation of Israel. The Exodus, which came out in 1956 was based on a racist novel, but the movie completely removed the Nakba (Ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Palestinians in 1948.) In the movie version, the Jewish hero begs, pleads the Arabs to stay as equal citizens, but the Arabs refuse and leave on their own. It wrote Palestinians out of their own history for Americans. And this is before the internet, so 100% effective.

Then in the 60s, the propaganda shifted to instead of just ignoring the Palestinians, Hollywood began portraying Arabs as irrational, evil, terrorist who hate us for our freedom. Dehumanizing, casting and associating Arabs as one dimensional bad guys. It's very effective, even during the internet age, since the vast majority of people are not going to randomly research these things. It makes it easier to justify sanctions and war.

The constant negative portrayal, Hollywood's global reach, has conditioned the American public to view Arabs and Muslims with being backward terrorists. It aligns public opinion with a pro Israel political narrative.

If an actor in Hollywood expresses support for Palestine or calls for a "free Palestine," it's belligerently misinterpreted as a call for the genocide of Jews. Anyone who challenges the narrative faces career repercussions, so who's going to?
Exactly

That works on goofs like Chewing, that propaganda is highly effective on low IQ MAGAs.

[ArbitraryWater]

Israel, obviously.


Baller recently told us hes jewish.


I think that said it all lol.

[ArbitraryWater]

For Israel to run the way it runs, controlling the narrative is a matter of life and death. Like evolution, it would not exist in its current form without it.

In the 1920s, Jewish immigrants built the major studios from the ground up. Their influence was quickly used to support the Zionist project. Studio heads like Barney Balaban of Paramount Pictures organized massive fundraisers, using their movie stars and connections to raise tens of millions of dollars to fund Jewish immigration to Palestine. He then went on to help found AIPAC.

But the most important part, again, was to shape the narrative. Hollywood created a romanticized, heroic story about the creation of Israel. The Exodus, which came out in 1956 was based on a racist novel, but the movie completely removed the Nakba (Ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Palestinians in 1948.) In the movie version, the Jewish hero begs, pleads the Arabs to stay as equal citizens, but the Arabs refuse and leave on their own. It wrote Palestinians out of their own history for Americans. And this is before the internet, so 100% effective.

Then in the 60s, the propaganda shifted to instead of just ignoring the Palestinians, Hollywood began portraying Arabs as irrational, evil, terrorist who hate us for our freedom. Dehumanizing, casting and associating Arabs as one dimensional bad guys. It's very effective, even during the internet age, since the vast majority of people are not going to randomly research these things. It makes it easier to justify sanctions and war.

The constant negative portrayal, Hollywood's global reach, has conditioned the American public to view Arabs and Muslims with being backward terrorists. It aligns public opinion with a pro Israel political narrative.

If an actor in Hollywood expresses support for Palestine or calls for a "free Palestine," it's belligerently misinterpreted as a call for the genocide of Jews. Anyone who challenges the narrative faces career repercussions, so who's going to?


Bingo. Well put together.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSNn5B_WoAIOyea?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[TheMan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSNn5B_WoAIOyea?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

The Democrats are just as bad this time around, except for a few Democrats, most haven't said a single word pushing back against Trump and the Zionists highly illegal attack on Iran. They're all on this perverted play.

Just like the Iraq War, those of us who oppose this Iran attack will be on the right side of history and those going along with Trump will be discarded to the trash bin of history like those who supported GWB's war crimes and pretend they never supported it, rinse and repeat until the American Empire finally collapses for good. That will be a great day for humanity, let's be honest.

[Baller234]

Israel, obviously.


Baller recently told us hes jewish.


I think that said it all lol.

I really don't know what you're trying to infer here. My ethnicity doesn't define who I am. My loyalty is and has always been to America.

Forgive me for having doubts and raising questions when you have people on your side blaming the jews for every major world event and accusing them of being corrupted by evil sorcerers.

[TheMan]

I really don't know what you're trying to infer here. My ethnicity doesn't define who I am. My loyalty is and has always been to America.

Forgive me for having doubts and raising questions when you have people on your side blaming the jews for every major world event and accusing them of being corrupted by evil sorcerers.

You're strawman arguments are GOAT tier bro

[highwhey]

I really don't know what you're trying to infer here. My ethnicity doesn't define who I am. My loyalty is and has always been to America.

Forgive me for having doubts and raising questions when you have people on your side blaming the jews for every major world event and accusing them of being corrupted by evil sorcerers.

he's saying you're bitchmade and your opinion has little worth bc your loyalty is primarily towards the zionist lobby. frankly, i agree, especially with the first part. also the 2nd part, but emphasis on the bitchmade.

[Baller234]

For Israel to run the way it runs, controlling the narrative is a matter of life and death. Like evolution, it would not exist in its current form without it.

In the 1920s, Jewish immigrants built the major studios from the ground up. Their influence was quickly used to support the Zionist project. Studio heads like Barney Balaban of Paramount Pictures organized massive fundraisers, using their movie stars and connections to raise tens of millions of dollars to fund Jewish immigration to Palestine. He then went on to help found AIPAC.

But the most important part, again, was to shape the narrative. Hollywood created a romanticized, heroic story about the creation of Israel. The Exodus, which came out in 1956 was based on a racist novel, but the movie completely removed the Nakba (Ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Palestinians in 1948.) In the movie version, the Jewish hero begs, pleads the Arabs to stay as equal citizens, but the Arabs refuse and leave on their own. It wrote Palestinians out of their own history for Americans. And this is before the internet, so 100% effective.

Then in the 60s, the propaganda shifted to instead of just ignoring the Palestinians, Hollywood began portraying Arabs as irrational, evil, terrorist who hate us for our freedom. Dehumanizing, casting and associating Arabs as one dimensional bad guys. It's very effective, even during the internet age, since the vast majority of people are not going to randomly research these things. It makes it easier to justify sanctions and war.

The constant negative portrayal, Hollywood's global reach, has conditioned the American public to view Arabs and Muslims with being backward terrorists. It aligns public opinion with a pro Israel political narrative.

If an actor in Hollywood expresses support for Palestine or calls for a "free Palestine," it's belligerently misinterpreted as a call for the genocide of Jews. Anyone who challenges the narrative faces career repercussions, so who's going to?

I could understand this being the case during classic Hollywood, but wouldn't you agree that things have changed? How else do you explain the decades long march towards wokism? Doesn't embracing wokism also mean embracing Islam and condemning Islamophobia?

Have you seen the oscars lately? Doesn't look like people in the industry seem very afraid to speak on behalf of Palestine. We're talking about people who star in big budget Disney films and Marvel movies. I definitely don't think everyone is Hollywood feels obligated or afraid to speak out against the so called evil zionists.

Also, how do you explain the MSM getting behind The Squad? Don't you think it's strange that Islamic sympathizers and anti-Zionists would grace so many magazine covers and get the fluff treatment? AOC isn't exactly the greatest friend to Israel but she has no problem getting an appearance on Kimmel or Colbert? Why is that? Wouldn't the zionists in control already have taken her out of the game? Why would they push her as a star?

[Baller234]

he's saying you're bitchmade and your opinion has little worth bc your loyalty is primarily towards the zionist lobby. frankly, i agree, especially with the first part. also the 2nd part, but emphasis on the bitchmade.

Right so if I accuse you of being "antisemetic" and resenting jews, it's actually me using an evil deflection tactic.

It has nothing to do with you being on record in several posts mocking and berating jews and using various memes depicting comically overblown stereotypes.

[Baller234]

You're strawman arguments are GOAT tier bro

How is it a strawman? It's an argument that was actually made in this thread.

I take it you agree then?

[Baller234]

The Democrats are just as bad this time around, except for a few Democrats, most haven't said a single word pushing back against Trump and the Zionists highly illegal attack on Iran. They're all on this perverted play.

Just like the Iraq War, those of us who oppose this Iran attack will be on the right side of history and those going along with Trump will be discarded to the trash bin of history like those who supported GWB's war crimes and pretend they never supported it, rinse and repeat until the American Empire finally collapses for good. That will be a great day for humanity, let's be honest.

Okay since we're being honest, tell me which empire you hope replaces us.

[jstern]

I could understand this being the case during classic Hollywood, but wouldn't you agree that things have changed? How else do you explain the decades long march towards wokism? Doesn't embracing wokism also mean embracing Islam and condemning Islamophobia?

Have you seen the oscars lately? Doesn't look like people in the industry seem very afraid to speak on behalf of Palestine. We're talking about people who star in big budget Disney films and Marvel movies. I definitely don't think everyone is Hollywood feels obligated or afraid to speak out against the so called evil zionists.

Also, how do you explain the MSM getting behind The Squad? Don't you think it's strange that Islamic sympathizers and anti-Zionists would grace so many magazine covers and get the fluff treatment? AOC isn't exactly the greatest friend to Israel but she has no problem getting an appearance on Kimmel or Colbert? Why is that? Wouldn't the zionists in control already have taken her out of the game? Why would they push her as a star?

By letting people like AOC and as a face of Israel criticism, it taints it for people on the right. If AOC supports Palestinians, then the topic is no longer about whatever is going on there, it just becomes another culture war. It's triggering. If AOC is for it, then I'm against it. It's powerful. Being against Palestinians becomes a way to own the liberals. (And that framing is mostly in the media, because a lot of Republican are against what's going on.)

It's why the uni party concept is important. It's not about suppressing the left, it's about neutralizing potential dissent on the right by making the topic politically toxic. The Israel lobby doesn't need every politician to be a passionate Zionist like Ted Cruz. They just need the people on the right to hate someone like AOC more than they care about questioning a multi trillion dollar foreign policy commitment that destabilizes the Middle East and makes America less safe.

Think about it, if you let AOC be a leader, it makes it easy for half of the country to dismiss the topic as just another thing to dismiss. (Though for this topic, the 50/50 divide is mainly a media narrative.)

AOC has no real power. It's all talk.

I've never watched the Oscars, I don't know who spoke out about anything and what they said, can only wait and see what happens to their career. If some actors spoke out, it doesn't mean that the system is not in place. It's not mind control, it's cause and consequences. Like in the MSM, if a news person doesn't say the right things, likes Trump, then they simply don't get promoted. And that's extremely effective, like evolution.

[Baller234]

By letting people like AOC and as a face of Israel criticism, it taints it for people on the right. If AOC supports Palestinians, then the topic is no longer about whatever is going on there, it just becomes another culture war. It's triggering. If AOC is for it, then I'm against it. It's powerful. Being against Palestinians becomes a way to own the liberals. (And that framing is mostly in the media, because a lot of Republican are against what's going on.)

It's why the uni party concept is important. It's not about suppressing the left, it's about neutralizing potential dissent on the right by making the topic politically toxic. The Israel lobby doesn't need every politician to be a passionate Zionist like Ted Cruz. They just need the people on the right to hate someone like AOC more than they care about questioning a multi trillion dollar foreign policy commitment that destabilizes the Middle East and makes America less safe.

Think about it, if you let AOC be a leader, it makes it easy for half of the country to dismiss the topic as just another thing to dismiss. (Though for this topic, the 50/50 divide is mainly a media narrative.)

AOC has no real power. It's all talk.

I've never watched the Oscars, I don't know who spoke out about anything and what they said, can only wait and see what happens to their career. If some actors spoke out, it doesn't mean that the system is not in place. It's not mind control, it's cause and consequences. Like in the MSM, if a news person doesn't say the right things, likes Trump, then they simply don't get promoted. And that's extremely effective, like evolution.

It definitely isn't taboo to show your support for Palestine in Hollywood right now. Quite the opposite actually. If there is a zionist plot to quell dissension, they're doing an awfully bad job.

Also, what do the zionists in control of the media have to gain by promoting AOC and promoting anti-zionist views? If they wield that type of power and influence, why wouldn't they cut people like AOC off at the knees? Why have they allowed her to become one of the loudest voices in politics? Why do these zionist owned networks give her so much positive media attention? If their goal was to attach someone unlikable to the other side's cause, wouldn't they cast someone far less attractive and charismatic in that role? Someone that alienates people on the right AND the left?

Right now you can arguably make the case that the most influential person in left wing punditry is Jon Stewart. If he's not #1 he's close to the top. He is a jew and his show airs on a jewish owned network. Guess what, he criticizes Israel.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A



I tend to trust Bill Cooper when it comes to these types of subjects... but I'm not so sure he got this one right.

If these Ancient Mystery schools have Kabbalah as a foundation... then Jews would be the main culprit.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah


According to Kabbalistic belief, early kabbalistic knowledge was transmitted orally by the Patriarchs, prophets, and sages, eventually to be "interwoven" into Jewish religious writings and culture.[25] According to this view, early kabbalah was, in around the 10th century BCE, an open knowledge practiced by over a million people in ancient Israel.[26][27] Foreign conquests drove the Jewish spiritual leadership of the time (the Sanhedrin) to hide the knowledge and make it secret, fearing that it might be misused if it fell into the wrong hands.[28]


Among problems considered in the Hebrew Kabbalah is the theological issue of the nature and origin of evil. In the views of some Kabbalists this conceives "evil" as a "quality of God", asserting that negativity enters into the essence of the Absolute. In this view it is conceived that the Absolute needs evil to "be what it is", i.e., to exist.[49] Foundational texts of Medieval Kabbalism conceived evil as a demonic parallel to the holy, called the Sitra Achra (the "Other Side"), and the qlippoth (the "shells/husks") that cover and conceal the holy, are nurtured from it, and yet also protect it by limiting its revelation. Scholem termed this element of the Spanish Kabbalah a "Jewish gnostic" motif, in the sense of dual powers in the divine realm of manifestation.

[jstern]

It definitely isn't taboo to show your support for Palestine in Hollywood right now. Quite the opposite actually. If there is a zionist plot to quell dissension, they're doing an awfully bad job.

Also, what do the zionists in control of the media have to gain by promoting AOC and promoting anti-zionist views? If they wield that type of power and influence, why wouldn't they cut people like AOC off at the knees? Why have they allowed her to become one of the loudest voices in politics? Why do these zionist owned networks give her so much positive media attention? If their goal was to attach someone unlikable to the other side's cause, wouldn't they cast someone far less attractive and charismatic in that role? Someone that alienates people on the right AND the left?

Right now you can arguably make the case that the most influential person in left wing punditry is Jon Stewart. If he's not #1 he's close to the top. He is a jew and his show airs on a jewish owned network. Guess what, he criticizes Israel.

I don't know much about John Stewart. I already mentioned what I said about AOC.

From your previous comment you already know that reproductions is a valid concept, why wouldn't it be now? Why would it end. The logic seems to be, if they don't control the narrative 100%, then it's not true.

The point isn't that a Zionist plot is trying to silence every single person. Their goal is to prevent a broad, both party coalition from forming that could actually threaten their goals.

This is where someone like AOC is more useful than a threat. Because she's the perfect person to make criticism of Israel politically radioactive to the right. By making her the face of the pro Palestine movement, the establishment guarantees that a huge chunk of the country will instinctively take the opposite position just to own the libs. The issue stops being about foreign policy, dead civilians, or billions of our tax dollars and becomes another front in the endless battle against "the Squad." Again, it's not about having 100% of the people "In line."

AOC has no real power to stop the flow of money or weapons. Her role is to be a pressure valve. She gives the left a voice, making them feel represented and heard, while the actual policy of funding and arming continues completely uninterrupted. It's a managed opposition that gives the illusion of a debate while the outcome is never in doubt.

Early on, I said that there's not going to be an Israel in like 50 years, because this system is unsustainable. They can't control every person, thus they can't fully control the narrative. But you're saying that my previous comment is incorrect, or doesn't make sense, because not every single person follows the line. That would be too expensive. It could work perfectly pre social media era, it even worked perfectly before October 7, but the mixture of the internet AND Gaza which shocks the average person, even if you might not see why, makes things different.

[TheMan]

Okay since we're being honest, tell me which empire you hope replaces us.

Doesn't really matter as long as it ain't us but it's gonna be China.

They're are a superpower and haven't toppled any democratically elected leaders and replaced them with oppressive puppets, they're not starting wars all over the world nor have they ever dropped a nuke. They will replace us soon, we have been a cancer on the world, far from the good guys Zionist Hollywood propaganda movies portrays us to be...all it takes is some critical thinking and honesty. I wish it weren't true but it is what it is...one clear example, Russia was the nation that through millions of death, sacrifice and sheer bravery, brought the Nazi war machine to it's knees yet we all think it was the Yankees, Hollywood propaganda. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan not to spare hundreds of thousands of US military deaths but to intimidate the rest of the world. Open a history book and stop blindly believing Zionist pro US propaganda.

[Baller234]

Doesn't really matter as long as it ain't us but it's gonna be China.

They're are a superpower and haven't toppled any democratically elected leaders and replaced them with oppressive puppets, they're not starting wars all over the world nor have they ever dropped a nuke. They will replace us soon, we have been a cancer on the world, far from the good guys Zionist Hollywood propaganda movies portrays us to be...all it takes is some critical thinking and honesty. I wish it weren't true but it is what it is...one clear example, Russia was the nation that through millions of death, sacrifice and sheer bravery, brought the Nazi war machine to it's knees yet we all think it was the Yankees, Hollywood propaganda. The atomic bombs were dropped on Japan not to spare hundreds of thousands of US military deaths but to intimidate the rest of the world. Open a history book and stop blindly believing Zionist pro US propaganda.

Have you ever considered moving to China?

Have you seen the advances in AI translation? With ChatGPT audio you can have a live conversation with someone in a different language now. I use it for work all the time. It's really incredible. You would be able to adapt pretty well I think. Plus I'm sure the people there are so kind and generous.

[Baller234]

I don't know much about John Stewart. I already mentioned what I said about AOC.

From your previous comment you already know that reproductions is a valid concept, why wouldn't it be now? Why would it end. The logic seems to be, if they don't control the narrative 100%, then it's not true.

The point isn't that a Zionist plot is trying to silence every single person. Their goal is to prevent a broad, both party coalition from forming that could actually threaten their goals.

This is where someone like AOC is more useful than a threat. Because she's the perfect person to make criticism of Israel politically radioactive to the right. By making her the face of the pro Palestine movement, the establishment guarantees that a huge chunk of the country will instinctively take the opposite position just to own the libs. The issue stops being about foreign policy, dead civilians, or billions of our tax dollars and becomes another front in the endless battle against "the Squad." Again, it's not about having 100% of the people "In line."

AOC has no real power to stop the flow of money or weapons. Her role is to be a pressure valve. She gives the left a voice, making them feel represented and heard, while the actual policy of funding and arming continues completely uninterrupted. It's a managed opposition that gives the illusion of a debate while the outcome is never in doubt.

Early on, I said that there's not going to be an Israel in like 50 years, because this system is unsustainable. They can't control every person, thus they can't fully control the narrative. But you're saying that my previous comment is incorrect, or doesn't make sense, because not every single person follows the line. That would be too expensive. It could work perfectly pre social media era, it even worked perfectly before October 7, but the mixture of the internet AND Gaza which shocks the average person, even if you might not see why, makes things different.

Jstern, my guy. Are you okay???

Can the jews predict the future as well? Do they have microchips in our brains too? What is this Star Wars? Is Netanyahu a sith lord? We already had one user in this thread accuse him of being a sorcerer. Now you're saying the jews have the power to orchestrate the feelings and emotions of everyone on the planet.

Your point about AOC is just crazy. By that same logic, casting AOC in that role makes criticism of Israel hip and cool to the left. Wtf is there to gain from that? What do the evil zionists have to gain by indoctrinating and teaching half the country to think negatively of Israel? Are you saying that Bernie and AOC are bought and paid for or are you saying this is 9D chess???

Jews are NOT super powered wizards.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrtuBas3Ipw

[jstern]

Jstern, my guy. Are you okay???

Can the jews predict the future as well? Do they have microchips in our brains too? What is this Star Wars? Is Netanyahu a sith lord? We already had one user in this thread accuse him of being a sorcerer. Now you're saying the jews have the power to orchestrate the feelings and emotions of everyone on the planet.

Your point about AOC is just crazy. By that same logic, casting AOC in that role makes criticism of Israel hip and cool to the left. Wtf is there to gain from that? What do the evil zionists have to gain by indoctrinating and teaching half the country to think negatively of Israel? Are you saying that Bernie and AOC are bought and paid for or are you saying this is 9D chess???

Jews are NOT super powered wizards.

I think you misread my post. I literally said the opposite. I said that "they CAN'T control everyone," which is why the system is unsustainable long term. I said that they cannot control everyone, as in what everyone says, the whole world, which is why you don't have, say for example, 100% of celebrities backing Israel. Or 100% of the politicians. And that someone like AOC, who's a scumbag politician, whether on purpose or not helps polarize the issue along partisan line, so that the average person on the right, who like most people work all the day long and don't really follow complicated topics in detail, or have the interest, can just go along with whatever is the opposite of what she says.

Unsustainable, due to the fact that the Zionist cannot control everyone.

Also, Jews and Zionists are not the same thing. For example, Patrick Chewing is a Zionist, but he's not Jewish. And there are many Jewish people who are not Zionists.

[Doomsday Dallas]

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[TheMan]

Have you ever considered moving to China?

Have you seen the advances in AI translation? With ChatGPT audio you can have a live conversation with someone in a different language now. I use it for work all the time. It's really incredible. You would be able to adapt pretty well I think. Plus I'm sure the people there are so kind and generous.

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

[warriorfan]

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

You have been melting down literally all day

Give it a rest muchacho.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Draft Poopsie First.

[TheMan]

You have been melting down literally all day

Give it a rest muchacho.

This such a low IQ take. This is a message forum, on politics to be specific. We are supposed to give our opinions on politics, that is exactly the point. You hardly ever give your opinion on any matter except to berate other posters you don't like with personal attacks and racial slurs. Do yourself a favor and stop interjecting here, you're too dumb...just go off and watch Fox News and get in line behind Dear Leader and keep not thinking for yourself, apparently it's too much work for you.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

He'll have a better life in Israel than you'll have in China.

He's right, you've been melting down these past few days rooting for Iran over the United States. You've got big issues.

[Baller234]

I'll move to China when you move to Israel

Right, just like I thought. No one here seriously believes you'd rather live in China over any western nation. Thanks for showing everyone how full of shit you are, not that anyone expected anything different.

You're turning out to be one of the biggest liars on the forum. It's really pathetic.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://y.yarn.co/48c2d650-f6aa-450c-9b90-342a1b519580_text.gif

[Baller234]

He'll have a better life in Israel than you'll have in China.

He's right, you've been melting down these past few days rooting for Iran over the United States. You've got big issues.

TheMan:

"Death to the American empire! China is number one! The world would be so much better off if China were on top!"

Also TheMan:

"I would never move to China! What are you crazy!?!?"

[TheMan]

TheMan:

"Death to the American empire! China is number one! The world would be so much better off if China were on top!"

Also TheMan:

"I would never move to China! What are you crazy!?!?"

Just because the US wouldn't be any longer the world's biggest bully shouldn't be a reason someone moves you big dumbass. So in your estimation, when people decide to migrate, moving to the world's strongest empire should be on top of the list? :roll: Who even thinks like that? I love the US, that's why I criticize it so much, so we can be better and do better...the US government and it's people are two different things you complete imbecile, the government has done a lot of shitty things around the world, take your blinders off. When I criticize the US, it's 99% directed at our government, the only bad thing I've said about the people is that most of us are ignorant about a lot of stuff happening around the world perpetrated by our government in our name creating resentment towards our country, I'm not cool with that, it's not to our benefit but only towards corporations, business interests and the elite, we as a whole don't see any of it except the blowback in terms of terrorist attacks and general resentment towards America...

Stay asleep you dopey fukk

[TheMan]

He'll have a better life in Israel than you'll have in China.

He's right, you've been melting down these past few days rooting for Iran over the United States. You've got big issues.

My animosity is towards the US government, I also expressed my anger towards the Biden administration inflaming the Russian Ukraine conflict so I'm not a hypocrite. I don't recall you cheering on the US government during that conflict, what's the matter you hated the US back then but now since your team is in charge it's USA! USA! USA!

That's exactly the problem with rightwing turds like yourself, you're totally cool with the US starting wars across the globe, as long as it's a GOP administration running the show (which it's mostly been the last 50 years). You gladly support warmongers as long as they're the red team. Go fukk yourself you looney fukk. And yeah I'm rooting for Iranian people to push back the neocon assholes and their genocidal Zionist attack dog in this conflict. I've never said death to America, I will say death to the American Empire though, those are two very different things but I'm sure you're too stupid to differentiate the two.

[Baller234]

I love the US, that's why I criticize it so much, so we can be better and do better


We have been a cancer on the world, far from the good guys Zionist Hollywood propaganda movies portrays us to be...all it takes is some critical thinking and honesty

"I love America but I hope it burns to the ground..."

"I love America but it's a cancer on the world..."

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[Patrick Chewing]

My animosity is towards the US government, I also expressed my anger towards the Biden administration inflaming the Russian Ukraine conflict so I'm not a hypocrite. I don't recall you cheering on the US government during that conflict, what's the matter you hated the US back then but now since your team is in charge it's USA! USA! USA!

That's exactly the problem with rightwing turds like yourself, you're totally cool with the US starting wars across the globe, as long as it's a GOP administration running the show (which it's mostly been the last 50 years). You gladly support warmongers as long as they're the red team. Go fukk yourself you looney fukk. And yeah I'm rooting for Iranian people to push back the neocon assholes and their genocidal Zionist attack dog in this conflict. I've never said death to America, I will say death to the American Empire though, those are two very different things but I'm sure you're too stupid to differentiate the two.

I thought you were a grown man in your 40's or 50's, but it's evident you just hit puberty by your posts as of late.

I just want to know something. Do you acknowledge Iran as one of the leading state sponsors of terrorism out there, yes or no? I don't care about your Hitler-esque thoughts of Israel. Everyone on this board knows by now you want to kill all the Jews in the world. So please, just focus on Iran and my question. Thanks.

[Patrick Chewing]

"I love America but I hope it burns to the ground..."

"I love America but it's a cancer on the world..."

https://media3.giphy.com/media/J2DYCDA15pTau86IGr/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9528xg3dbkx235jl3t1hfywxr700qb1 guqiy6rlu7ax&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

Dude is seriously confused :roll:

[Baller234]

What's the plan now guys? What does Darth Netanyahu have in store?

Is the ceasefire all part of his master plan?

[Doomsday Dallas]

What's the plan now guys? What does Darth Netanyahu have in store?

Is the ceasefire all part of his master plan?




I'll tell you what's coming next in the near future.... the biggest part of the Master Plan.

https://assets.korearisk.com/uploads/2023/07/kctv-jul25-2023-kju-first-oil-paintings-of-himself-at-art-exhibition-paektu-935x500.jpg

[highwhey]

I'll tell you what's coming next in the near future.... the biggest part of the Master Plan.

https://assets.korearisk.com/uploads/2023/07/kctv-jul25-2023-kju-first-oil-paintings-of-himself-at-art-exhibition-paektu-935x500.jpg

that pic goes hard ngl

[Doomsday Dallas]

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[jstern]

I'll tell you what's coming next in the near future.... the biggest part of the Master Plan.

https://assets.korearisk.com/uploads/2023/07/kctv-jul25-2023-kju-first-oil-paintings-of-himself-at-art-exhibition-paektu-935x500.jpg

Is that Axe? Looks pretty cool.

[Patrick Chewing]

Is that Axe? Looks pretty cool.

:oldlol: