2025 NBA Free Agency Discussion

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Brook Lopez
Clint Capela
Bruce Brown Jr.
Malcolm Brogdon
Myles Turner
Tim Hardaway Jr.
D'Angelo Russell
Luke Kennard
Caris LeVert
Dennis Schroder
Marvin Bagley III
Chris Boucher
Joe Ingles
Larry Nance Jr.
Chris Paul
Al Horford
Tre Jones
Gary Payton II
Jeff Green
Gary Harris
Kevon Looneey
Precious Achiuwa
Malik Beasley
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Russell Westbrook
Cory Joseph
Spencer Dinwiddie
Seth Curry
Kyle Lowry
Cameron Payne
Mason Plumlee
Dante Exum
Tyus Jones
Luke Kornet
Gary Trent Jr.
Ty Jerome
Bol Bol

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Josh Giddey
Jonathan Kuminga
Davion Mitchell

OTHERS

LeBron James (Player)
James Harden (Player)
Julius Randle (Player)
Naz Reid (Player)
Dorian Finney-Smith (Player)
Bobby Portis (Player)
Moritz Wagner (Team)
Kelly Oubre Jr. (Player)
Andre Drummond (Player)
Nicholas Batum (Player)
Eric Gordon (Player)

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What I posted as a notable list. I didn't feel like listing almost all two hundred names.

One player that could really help a team is Chris Paul to Dallas. Kyrie is probably out until at least January projected. Dallas could resign Exum and give their $5+ million exception to Chris Paul. I think that could hold down the fort until Kyrie gets back and at least make them competitive if not more.

[NBAGOAT]

Really boring free agency, barely any starter quality guys. Nickiel is most interesting unrestricted guy. Also think you missed maybe the best free agent in Quentin grimes. He was ridiculous in Philly even better than kuminga the next best player who could move imo.

Very few teams going get a starter in free agency I think. Trade market will be interesting however

[Xiao Yao You]

Turner

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Really boring free agency, barely any starter quality guys. Nickiel is most interesting unrestricted guy. Also think you missed maybe the best free agent in Quentin grimes. He was ridiculous in Philly even better than kuminga the next best player who could move imo.

Very few teams going get a starter in free agency I think. Trade market will be interesting however

Yep I forgot Grimes. Another Maverick that was given up on.

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Raptors and Masai Ujiri part ways. He was responsible for building the 2019 championship team.

[ImKobe]

Lakers need to pick up Capela.

[Xiao Yao You]

Lakers need to pick up Capela.

He fits. Do they have more than vet minimum?

[Xiao Yao You]

Lakers need to pick up Capela.


Raptors and Masai Ujiri part ways. He was responsible for building the 2019 championship team.

Someone will be paying him a lot

[Xiao Yao You]

The Lakers will have access to exceptions like the non-taxpayer mid-level exception and the biannual exception, but using them could hard cap the team at the first apron, according to Sports Illustrated.

[ImKobe]

He fits. Do they have more than vet minimum?

Lebron and DFS will likely decline their player options so they can use the MLE. Lebron probably takes a discount to help the team and DFS gets a new contract with a lower starting salary is what I'm guessing.

[Xiao Yao You]

The Lakers will have access to exceptions like the non-taxpayer mid-level exception and the biannual exception, but using them could hard cap the team at the first apron, according to Sports Illustrated.
Wouldnt count on lebron taking a discount again

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Someone will be paying him a lot

I forget who it was, but someone contacted the Raptors about his availability this past season I believe.

[Xiao Yao You]

I think denver still has an opening. Connelly a free agent in minny...

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I think denver still has an opening. Connelly a free agent in minny...

Denver should be making moves with players like the Lakers should. Nuggets are a piece away.

It would be nice that when Jokic comes off the floor the Nuggets don't completely fall apart offensively.

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Naz Reid resigns with the Timberwolves for 5 years, $125 million.

https://thescore.com/nba/news/3305043

[Xiao Yao You]

A lot of money for a 6th man. Guess of randle opts out and leaves maybe?

[Proctor]

Naz Reid resigns with the Timberwolves for 5 years, $125 million.

https://thescore.com/nba/news/3305043

Well worth it. Can they move Gobert?

[Xiao Yao You]

They can but they will need a starting center

[beasted]

Well worth it. Can they move Gobert?

Not without taking terrible contracts back.

[beasted]

They can but they will need a starting center

Reid put up 18 PPG, 9 REB, 3 AST, 1 BLK across 17 starts last season. I think that is sufficient. No he doesn't have the overall impact of Gobert when Rudy is playing his best ball, but Reid also will make $25M vs Rudy's $40M.

If Minny can convert that $40M in to a Conly replacement and a solid back up big, they could be better in the long run.Rudy will age like warm milk.

[NBAGOAT]

Unless they trade gobert, Minnesota can’t keep both Randle and naw without going into 2nd apron. Think really good chance naw goes somewhere else

[Xiao Yao You]

Randle has player option. Why would you want to keep him adter disappearing in the finals?

[NBAGOAT]

Randle has player option. Why would you want to keep him adter disappearing in the finals?

You can’t replace him and he’s a big reason you made the conference finals

[Doomsday Dallas]

On behalf of the Dallas Mavericks community... we'd like to express interest in Chris Paul

[Xiao Yao You]

You can’t replace him and he’s a big reason you made the conference finals

Cant replace a guy that didnt show up? Just paid reid. You have to hope he can replace him and ant and mcdaniels and other young guys continue to improve. Also what you get in a trade if he doesnt leave as fa

[beasted]

On behalf of the Dallas Mavericks community... we'd like to express interest in Chris Paul

I see them getting Brogdon instead.

[RRR3]

Randle carried The French Fraud all playoffs and eventually his back gave out from lugging that Joel Anthony level scrub around and xiao is STILL ungrateful :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

Cant quit me

[beasted]

Randle carried The French Fraud all playoffs and eventually his back gave out from lugging that Joel Anthony level scrub around and xiao is STILL ungrateful :facepalm

Randle had a uptick in production across the board in comparison to his regular season. Gobert had a swan dive in production across the board and the worst efficiency of his career, rookie season included.

But Mr. Can't Quit Me will continue to reinvent history.

[Xiao Yao You]

Randle had a uptick in production across the board in comparison to his regular season. Gobert had a swan dive in production across the board and the worst efficiency of his career, rookie season included.

But Mr. Can't Quit Me will continue to reinvent history.

The advanced stats sgow gis impact. Randle sucked in the final. He and finch were the main problem. Vut sure bring them back and do it again! :facepalm

[RRR3]

Randle had a uptick in production across the board in comparison to his regular season. Gobert had a swan dive in production across the board and the worst efficiency of his career, rookie season included.

But Mr. Can't Quit Me will continue to reinvent history.
B-b-b-b-but his offensive rebound percentage :cry:

[Xiao Yao You]

Still cant quit me

[NBAGOAT]

The advanced stats sgow gis impact. Randle sucked in the final. He and finch were the main problem. Vut sure bring them back and do it again! :facepalm

Randle had a 2.8epm in playoffs almost as good as Edwards at 3.2. Gobert was a 0.6. Epm is the best advanced stats and gobert used to dominate. He’s past his prime however

[Xiao Yao You]

Randle had a 2.8epm in playoffs almost as good as Edwards at 3.2. Gobert was a 0.6. Epm is the best advanced stats and gobert used to dominate. He’s past his prime however
Randle sucked in the final. What he did before doesnt matter. They have to go through okc. He isnt the guy as towns wasnt

[NBAGOAT]

Randle sucked in the final. What he did before doesnt matter. They have to go through okc. He isnt the guy as towns wasnt

They have epm for Individual games. Gobert averaged a -1.6 epm Randle averaged a 0.7

[RRR3]

The troll is positively stumped.

[Xiao Yao You]

Will never quit me

[Xiao Yao You]

Making cavs worse helps jazz :cheers:

The Utah Jazz have emerged as a team to watch in free agency as guard Ty Jerome hits the open market following a career-best season with the Cleveland Cavaliers, league sources told RG. Jerome averaged 12.5 points, 3.4 assists and shot 51.6% from the field in 70 games last season for Cleveland, including over 40% shooting from beyond the arc. He also played well in the postseason, averaging 11.7 points and 3.6 assists on 50% shooting, including 46.7% from three. 10 mins ago – via Responsible Gaming

[beasted]

Making cavs worse helps jazz :cheers:

The Utah Jazz have emerged as a team to watch in free agency as guard Ty Jerome hits the open market following a career-best season with the Cleveland Cavaliers, league sources told RG. Jerome averaged 12.5 points, 3.4 assists and shot 51.6% from the field in 70 games last season for Cleveland, including over 40% shooting from beyond the arc. He also played well in the postseason, averaging 11.7 points and 3.6 assists on 50% shooting, including 46.7% from three. 10 mins ago – via Responsible Gaming

This would be his first real contract at 28 years old looking for what might be a final payday. I would hate this if I were a Jazz fan, especially considering they are finally about to have flexibility once Collins, Sexton and Clarkson expire.

This has to be a fake report to gain negotiation leverage.

[Xiao Yao You]

This would be his first real contract at 28 years old looking for what might be a final payday. I would hate this if I were a Jazz fan, especially considering they are finally about to have flexibility once Collins, Sexton and Clarkson expire.

This has to be a fake report to gain negotiation leverage.


I dont hate having vets with kids. Ideally bum and george are gone. Collier, jerome, sexton and their 1st rounder at guard

[beasted]

I dont hate having vets with kids. Ideally bum and george are gone. Collier, jerome, sexton and their 1st rounder at guard

If they just want a good solid vet, bring back Alec Burks for a 1 yr low money deal. Don't give a multi-year 8-figure deal to a role player coming off 1 good career year.

[Xiao Yao You]

If they just want a good solid vet, bring back Alec Burks for a 1 yr low money deal. Don't give a multi-year 8-figure deal to a role player coming off 1 good career year.

Young vet in his prime. As long as they dont overpay it makes sense. They have money. Got to pay someone. Becomes another asset. Loved alec burks. Too bad cotm wasnt a fan

[beasted]

Young vet in his prime. As long as they dont overpay it makes sense. They have money. Got to pay someone. Becomes another asset. Loved alec burks. Too bad cotm wasnt a fan

That sounds like a Utah Jazz move for sure. This will be a THT-like bad contract as soon as the ink dries.

[GOBB]

Sexton and a 2031 2nd traded to Hornets for Nurkic

[beasted]

Sexton and a 2031 2nd traded to Hornets for Nurkic

Soneone help me understand this trade. Why would the Jazz need to include anything?

[Xiao Yao You]

Soneone help me understand this trade. Why would the Jazz need to include anything?

Good question. One of my favorite players for a bum. Tanking sucks :cry:

[Xiao Yao You]

Ty jerome makes more sense now

[beasted]

Good question. One of my favorite players for a bum. Tanking sucks :cry:

I get it that maybe they want to develop Clayton, Luis Jr., etc, and maybe they want to do good by Sexton by trading him somewhere he can get minutes, but somebody please explain why they included a 2nd round pick for a guy who is disgruntled, older, and makes slightly more money?

I mean, surely Kessler is still in the rotation ahead of Nurkic, right?

[Xiao Yao You]

Kessler will start unless traded. Filiposki will probably get the backup minutes. Nurkic is an rxpiring contract. The 2nd rounder certainly nakes no sense. Im sure they have had better offers the past two years that dannt turned down. Not a fan of his son so far

[GOBB]

I can’t explain the trade. I mean Sexton is in a contract year so this would be a rental if Hornets have no interest in giving him a long term deal.

This move opens up minutes. Ace is smiling.

[Xiao Yao You]

If sexton costs a pick what do they have to give for someone to take The Bum? :(

[beasted]

I can’t explain the trade. I mean Sexton is in a contract yeah so this would be a rental if Hornets have no interest in giving him a long term deal.

This move opens up minutes. Ace is smiling.

Sexton is like a cheaper, younger, better defensive version of Rozier, and they will likely use Sexton in the same role that they used to play him in Charlotte.

The most crazy thing here is Sexton has something to play for in a contract year, vs Nurkic is done getting big contracts from here in out and is more likely to be a distraction if he's not getting minutes.

Bad trade for Utah.

[Xiao Yao You]

[QUOTE=beasted;15018562]Sexton is like a cheaper, younger, better defensive version of Rozier, and they will likely use Sexton in the same role that they used to play him in Charlotte.

The most crazy thing here is Sexton has something to play for in a contract year, vs Nurkic is done getting big contracts from here in out and is more likely to be a distraction if he's not getting minutes.

Nurkic contract year too. Plating to stay in league

[beasted]

Nurkic contract year too. Plating to stay in league

I don't see how Nurkic gets more than the tax payer MLE from here on out. And I think that's the best case scenario given his attitude.

Sexton is still in the mix for an 8 figure yearly contract.

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I completely don't understand the Sexton trade. He's probably one of the most underrated offensive players in the league and is a 50/40/80 threat every year and that's all you can get for him? He's consistently put up 18/3/4 on 48/40/84 splits the last three years on not even 30 minutes of playing time in each of those seasons. His best offensive season was in Cleveland at almost 25PPG just four years ago.

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He also played well in the postseason, averaging 11.7 points and 3.6 assists on 50% shooting, including 46.7% from three. 10 mins ago – via Responsible Gaming

8.0 PPG and 2.6 assists on 30% shooting, including 25% from three against the Pacers though.

Also those postseason percentages are completely wrong from "Responsible Gaming". He didn't do 50/46.7 for the postseason. It was 40.2/38.9. He played really well up until the Pacers series.

[Xiao Yao You]

I completely don't understand the Sexton trade. He's probably one of the most underrated offensive players in the league and is a 50/40/80 threat every year and that's all you can get for him? He's consistently put up 18/3/4 on 48/40/84 splits the last three years on not even 30 minutes of playing time in each of those seasons. His best offensive season was in Cleveland at almost 25PPG just four years ago.

Better offensive player now. Supposedly minnesota wanted him. Probably preferred the expiring contract over tcontracts they didnt want past this season

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DeAndre Ayton is going to be bought out by the Blazers. Hmmmmmmmmm.

[highwhey]

DeAndre Ayton is going to be bought out by the Blazers. Hmmmmmmmmm.

already made a thread on it. 100% going to lakers. it's obvious.

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already made a thread on it. 100% going to lakers. it's obvious.

No need for a thread. Free Agency discussion here bro.

[highwhey]

No need for a thread. Free Agency discussion here bro.

jeff isn't going to let you smash for saving him server space, bro.

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jeff isn't going to let you smash for saving him server space, bro.

It ain't about saving server space. It's about not having to click into several different threads to react to each signing. To each their own.

[highwhey]

It ain't about saving server space. It's about not having to click into several different threads to react to each signing. To each their own.

that's a fair point, bro.

[Xiao Yao You]

already made a thread on it. 100% going to lakers. it's obvious.

Not a rim runner is he? I hope he does. Guy is a loser! :cheers:

[GOBB]

jeff isn't going to let you smash for saving him server space, bro.

Hahahahahahaa

[GOBB]

It ain't about saving server space. It's about not having to click into several different threads to react to each signing. To each their own.

Thought you were gone until next postseason? What was the point of the announcement? Lame

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Not a rim runner is he? I hope he does. Guy is a loser! :cheers:

Not only is he not a rim runner, but he's not a shot-blocker either. The Lakers want both.

[Xiao Yao You]

3 point threat with nba body

Shams Charania: The Utah Jazz are waiving forward Johnny Juzang, making him a free agent, sources tell ESPN. The 24-year-old started 18 games and averaged 8 points in 20 minutes last season, shooting 38% from 3, and will receive interest from teams. 34 mins ago – via x.com

[Xiao Yao You]

And lebron not taking discount. Surprise, surprise

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281117/Lakers-Preparing-For-Dorian-Finney-Smith-To-Sign-With-Rockets

[highwhey]

Not a rim runner is he? I hope he does. Guy is a loser! :cheers:

yeah he's no lively. but he's athletic and having 2 of the best playmakers will help him. cp3 helped his game. he ate well when cp3 was on the team.

[Xiao Yao You]

Hes been done since his should have been 6th man of the year :rockon:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281120/Joe-Ingles-Wolves-Agree-To-One-Year-$36M-Deal

[Xiao Yao You]

Austin cleaning up daddys mess!!! :bowdown:

Shams Charania: Jordan Clarkson is finalizing a contract buyout with the Utah Jazz, sources tell ESPN. Clarkson will target contending teams for his new home — with interest from multiple playoff teams already expected. 2 mins ago – via x.com

[ImKobe]

And lebron not taking discount. Surprise, surprise

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281117/Lakers-Preparing-For-Dorian-Finney-Smith-To-Sign-With-Rockets

Probably because DFS is not staying with the Lakers, so they have the MLE regardless of what James does.

Him declining it and not taking a 1 + 1 probably means that he's seriously considering retirement. I doubt he's thinking of going anywhere else at this point in his career. I could see MAYBE him going back to Cleveland for his last year so he can retire as a Cav.

[GOBB]

NBA and some fans gave Sixers Sam Hinkie shyt for tanking. And Utah is doing it right in front of our eyes. In Hinkie I will always trust.

[beasted]

Hes been done since his should have been 6th man of the year :rockon:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/281120/Joe-Ingles-Wolves-Agree-To-One-Year-$36M-Deal

He's not just done, he's well done and left on the stove to get cold. But he's likely a good locker room mentor.

[beasted]

Probably because DFS is not staying with the Lakers, so they have the MLE regardless of what James does.

Him declining it and not taking a 1 + 1 probably means that he's seriously considering retirement. I doubt he's thinking of going anywhere else at this point in his career. I could see MAYBE him going back to Cleveland for his last year so he can retire as a Cav.

That would require not only a buyout. It would also require the Cavs to drop below the 2nd apron since they can't sign him once he's bought out.

[Xiao Yao You]

NBA and some fans gave Sixers Sam Hinkie shyt for tanking. And Utah is doing it right in front of our eyes. In Hinkie I will always trust.

Many teams tank every year and have for a long time. Ainge built two champions doing it. Okc are champs now after doing it

[beasted]

NBA and some fans gave Sixers Sam Hinkie shyt for tanking. And Utah is doing it right in front of our eyes. In Hinkie I will always trust.

Hinkie drafted like an idiot. Right intention, wrong execution.

[GOBB]

Hinkie drafted like an idiot. Right intention, wrong execution.

No he didn’t. He drafted solid. Took BPA every time.

[GOBB]

Many teams tank every year and have for a long time. Ainge built two champions doing it. Okc are champs now after doing it

Of course but where was this logic when Sixers did it? Everyone was up in arms, getting on their soap box talking integrity of the league blah blah blah. The nba forced Hinkie out by having the Colangelos take over. And they ruined things. Go figure.

[Xiao Yao You]

Of course but where was this logic when Sixers did it? Everyone was up in arms, getting on their soap box talking integrity of the league blah blah blah. The nba forced Hinkie out by having the Colangelos take over. And they ruined things. Go figure.

Wouldnt blame it all on colangelo when mr. Glass is all they have to show for it

[beasted]

No he didn’t. He drafted solid. Took BPA every time.

Noel, Okafor, and MCW were busts and not given any proper development program. That was another knock on him. Draft and/or acquire players and if they aren't an immediate hit, trade them off. Why avoid having any veterans who can actually teach and mentor these guys? :confusedshrug:


He operated like someone who was a gambler rather than a tactician executing a plan over a specific timeline.

[Xiao Yao You]

Noel, Okafor, and MCW were busts and not given any proper development program. That was another knock on him. Draft and/or acquire players and if they aren't an immediate hit, trade them off. Why avoid having any veterans who can actually teach and mentor these guys? :confusedshrug:


He operated like someone who was a gambler rather than a tactician executing a plan over a specific timeline.

You forgot fultz. That was certainly a difference there. You need a mix of vets and kids. Easier to lose with kids but no one to show them the way

[GOBB]

Wouldnt blame it all on colangelo when mr. Glass is all they have to show for it

He drafted Fultz and gave it up to Danny Ainge. He traded Jerami Grant and Noel. He had his wife created twitter accounts bashing players and front office folks (Hinkie was one). He was a stooge. Embiid even with all his injuries has done more for the Sixers than him. F*ck him, should’ve left Hinkie alone to continue his process. Whether it worked or failed

[GOBB]

You forgot fultz. That was certainly a difference there. You need a mix of vets and kids. Easier to lose with kids but no one to show them the way

He didn’t draft Fultz

[GOBB]

Noel, Okafor, and MCW were busts and not given any proper development program. That was another knock on him. Draft and/or acquire players and if they aren't an immediate hit, trade them off. Why avoid having any veterans who can actually teach and mentor these guys? :confusedshrug:


He operated like someone who was a gambler rather than a tactician executing a plan over a specific timeline.

MCW was a bust? He won ROY and for Sixers a lottery pick via trade. Which was Mikel Bridges. But for some odd reason we traded Bridges.

Noel was a stiff

Okafor was BPA. Hindsight yeah he ended up a bust. At the time? It was the BPA. Not mad at it. Just mad he got hurt where Sixers couldn’t take advantage of his value and flip him.

Hinkie did solid drafting.

[Xiao Yao You]

MCW was a bust? He won ROY and for Sixers a lottery pick via trade. Which was Mikel Bridges. But for some odd reason we traded Bridges.

Noel was a stiff

Okafor was BPA. Hindsight yeah he ended up a bust. At the time? It was the BPA. Not mad at it. Just mad he got hurt where Sixers couldn’t take advantage of his value and flip him.

Hinkie did solid drafting.

Okafor bpa if it was 1990. Like mcw and fultz they didnt have modern games. Noel fit todays game more than them. Turning down all that cash though! :roll:

[GOBB]

Okafor bpa if it was 1990. Like mcw and fultz they didnt have modern games. Noel fit todays game more than them. Turning down all that cash though! :roll:

Who was the BPA that draft?

[Xiao Yao You]

Who was the BPA that draft?

Anyone that stayed in the league and werent slow footed post up big

[beasted]

Who was the BPA that draft?

Porzingis.

[Xiao Yao You]

Porzingis.

Modern game vs different era game

[GOBB]

Porzingis.

Hindsight? Yes

Back then in real time? No.

Okafor was a top 3 lock. No one had Porz going 3rd.

[beasted]

shams
JUST IN: Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Jr.
and a first-round pick to the Nets for Cam Johnson.
less

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1939822818667241921?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1939822818667241921%7Ctwgr% 5E60a1f4bab09c2697395f6bcb9fc95806dd9f00ff%7Ctwcon %5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticle s%2F25175517-bruce-brown-jr-nuggets-reportedly-agree-contract-after-mpj-cam-johnson-trade

[beasted]

That trade saves them like $20M. MPJ is a little better and more versatile, but, I think it is a good move as long as the 1st has protection.

[beasted]

Just read that the 2032 pick is UNPROTECTED. Wow. Nets might be in for a good one.

[Xiao Yao You]

Hindsight? Yes

Back then in real time? No.

Okafor was a top 3 lock. No one had Porz going 3rd.

Did anyone other than ainge have tatum 1? The difference between great talent evaluators and guys that mostly got it wrong

[Xiao Yao You]

Cotm didnt even like nickeil on the jazz :rolleyes:

[Axe]

Schroder is signing with the kings.

[GOBB]

Did anyone other than ainge have tatum 1? The difference between great talent evaluators and guys that mostly got it wrong

You can’t change history. Okafor was by far the best player at 3. He was the projected #1 at the start of college. You’re speaking from a hindsight perspective. At the time every mock, every draft pundit/analyst, most nba teams had Okafor the consensus 3rd overall pick. Saying everyone was wrong is pure hindsight. lol that’s not that that works. The answer to my question was Okafor. He was the BPA. Hinkie took the BPA.

The fact you can’t name who was the BPA at 3 during that draft just proves my point.


Ave Bailey was the BPA for Utah. What he does in his career doesn’t debunk that. See how that works? lol

[GOBB]

Where is manny? Who is this guy the Sixers signed. I watched some highlights and he scores so damn ugly. Lol

[Mask the Embiid]

Where is manny? Who is this guy the Sixers signed. I watched some highlights and he scores so damn ugly. Lol

A poor man's boris diaw

[Xiao Yao You]

You can’t change history. Okafor was by far the best player at 3. He was the projected #1 at the start of college. You’re speaking from a hindsight perspective. At the time every mock, every draft pundit/analyst, most nba teams had Okafor the consensus 3rd overall pick. Saying everyone was wrong is pure hindsight. lol that’s not that that works. The answer to my question was Okafor. He was the BPA. Hinkie took the BPA.

The fact you can’t name who was the BPA at 3 during that draft just proves my point.


Ave Bailey was the BPA for Utah. What he does in his career doesn’t debunk that. See how that works? lol

Bailey has a modern skillset.
Okafor didnt. Not the same. Hinkie obviously was thinking in the past. Most of those guys didnt have modern skillsets

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LeVert going to the Pistons makes me feel like they're anticipating Beasley getting suspended which means they definitely won't bring him back. They were in the middle of his contract talks and that stalled when the gambling investigation came out.

[Xiao Yao You]

Knicks have no coach but they do have a Bum. At least i will only see that shitshow a couple times! :roll:

[ImKobe]

Just read that the 2032 pick is UNPROTECTED. Wow. Nets might be in for a good one.

Nuggets could care less about a 1st rounder that's likely beyond the Jokic window, Cam should be a better fit for Denver. Great gamble for the Nets though.

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Knicks have no coach but they do have a Bum. At least i will only see that shitshow a couple times! :roll:

They're talking to Mike Brown. How do you talk to a coach at this point to convince him you want him when you tried to talk to 5 other coaches beforehand and got turned down.

"Well you were our sixth choice, but here's a lot of money to convince you to come here."

[Axe]

They're talking to Mike Brown. How do you talk to a coach at this point to convince him you want him when you tried to talk to 5 other coaches beforehand and got turned down.

"Well you were our sixth choice, but here's a lot of money to convince you to come here."
I wonder why they haven't gone to mike malone yet. He's a solid coach. Smh.

[Xiao Yao You]

They're talking to Mike Brown. How do you talk to a coach at this point to convince him you want him when you tried to talk to 5 other coaches beforehand and got turned down.

"Well you were our sixth choice, but here's a lot of money to convince you to come here."

East is wide open. Great chance for finals

[GOBB]

Bailey has a modern skillset.
Okafor didnt. Not the same. Hinkie obviously was thinking in the past. Most of those guys didnt have modern skillsets

That’s not how BPA works.

Okafor avg 17ppg 7rpg as a rookie. Not bad for a slow footed back to basket, outdated game.

[Patrick Chewing]

They're talking to Mike Brown. How do you talk to a coach at this point to convince him you want him when you tried to talk to 5 other coaches beforehand and got turned down.

"Well you were our sixth choice, but here's a lot of money to convince you to come here."


How is that any different than interviewing several candidates before making your eventual choice?

[Xiao Yao You]

That’s not how BPA works.

Okafor avg 17ppg 7rpg as a rookie. Not bad for a slow footed back to basket, outdated game.

Empty stats on a bad team. Arent winning with your and hinkies bpa

[GOBB]

A poor man's boris diaw

That’s funny. Apparently him and Maxey are good friends. Maxey pushed for him I assume

[Real Men Wear Green]

I may only be their 9th choice but I would take the Knicks coaching job.

[Axe]

Clarkson and the jazz agree to a buyout, will move on and sign with the knicks.

[Meticode]

How is that any different than interviewing several candidates before making your eventual choice?

Interviewees usually come in voluntarily for a job. You interview several that walk-in and choose based off what is best in front of you. You have no choice who walks through that door.

In this case it's different. None of the Knicks first attempts were with coaches that were unsigned. They were requesting to speak with several coaches that were still already working for other teams. Meaning they had in mind who they wanted to talk to first at the minimum and who was on their radar.

I get that you'll interview several coaches, but most of the time there's a slew of coaches who are unsigned and not working. The Knicks first several attempts were with coaches who were signed. Let's say a team is interested in Phil Jackson in his prime and Mike Brown. Both of those coaches are still under contract with other teams. You don't go request to talk to Mike Brown before you talk to Phil Jackson. You request to talk to Jackson because he's your first choice and if the team allows you to interview him and you can sign him you won't even need an interview with Brown.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0KnM0r0/1000001782.jpg

Nets playing 4d chess out here, Porter surrounded by the best playmaking in the league is going to be putting up all star numbers which will greatly increase his value for him to be traded for more 1st round picks in the 2026 off-season

[Xiao Yao You]

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0KnM0r0/1000001782.jpg

Nets playing 4d chess out here, Porter surrounded by the best playmaking in the league is going to be putting up all star numbers which will greatly increase his value for him to be traded for more 1st round picks in the 2026 off-season
Certainly looks like the worst team in the league. Way to go? :facepalm

[Xiao Yao You]

https://www.slcdunk.com/2025/6/30/24459460/nba-trade-rumors-john-collins-utah-jazz

Heat?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Nets playing 4d chess out here, Porter surrounded by the best playmaking in the league is going to be putting up all star numbers which will greatly increase his value for him to be traded for more 1st round picks in the 2026 off-season
I'm not saying it definitely won't happen but any GM that trades a first round pick to pay 40mil per for a 3-and-no-D roleplayer is crazy.

[tontoz]

Lakers lose DFS to Houston:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dorian-finney-smith-leaving-lakers-will-sign-with-rockets-on-four-year-53-million-deal-per-report/

[GOBB]

Yabu signs with the Knicks 2yrs $12mil

Played solid for us. Also played out of position (center). Nice stretch forward who hustles.

[Meticode]

Interesting...Bucks waived Lillard and used the remainder of his contract on Myles Turner. Good move, but Myles might be a younger carbon copy of Brookl Lopez. Wouldn't you assume Turner wouldn't agree to that unless he was told Giannis is coming back? Unless the Pacers were low-balling him.

[Xiao Yao You]

Interesting...Bucks waived Lillard and used the remainder of his contract on Myles Turner. Good move, but Myles might be a younger carbon copy of Brookl Lopez. Wouldn't you assume Turner wouldn't agree to that unless he was told Giannis is coming back? Unless the Pacers were low-balling him.

Got more money and gets to play for contender this season

[Meticode]

Got more money and gets to play for contender this season
You basically just repeated what I typed out but just said it different. Giannis staying = contender, Pacers low-ball = get more money.

[Xiao Yao You]

You basically just repeated what I typed out but just said it different. Giannis staying = contender, Pacers low-ball = get more money.

Except you posted questions and i posted the facts

[Meticode]

Except you posted questions and i posted the facts

Except they're not facts. WTF

[GOBB]

Except they're not facts. WTF

Leave. Why are you still here? Draft is over.

[Xiao Yao You]

Jake Fischer: There is certainly more dust to settle from Myles Turner landing in Milwaukee, as ESPN reports. I’m being told the big man wanted to remain with the Pacers, who he helped lead to the Finals, but Indiana’s offers for Turner never truly exceeded the three-year, $60 million range. – via x.com

[Meticode]

Three ruptured achilles in the span of a month or two has changed the trajectory of three different franchises...

-The Pacers are letting Turner walk because Haliburton is done for majority if not the whole season. They're probably packing it in for the 25-26 season.

-The Celtics are selling letting Kornet walk, trading Holiday for Simons, Horford is probably gone, traded Prozingis because of Tatum. Packing it in. Part of it too also being the 2nd Apron.

-The Bucks could lose Giannis because of Lillard, or maybe keep him turning Lillard into Turner trying to make a hail mary for him to stay.

[Xiao Yao You]

and Giannis Antetokounmpo both valued the opportunity to partner together on the court during the process, sources told ESPN. With Antetokounmpo considering his future and whether his best fit was with the Bucks moving forward, Milwaukee executives once again make a major move. – via ESPN

[Xiao Yao You]

Myles turner and Giannis Antetokounmpo both valued the opportunity to partner together on the court during the process, sources told ESPN. With Antetokounmpo considering his future and whether his best fit was with the Bucks moving forward, Milwaukee executives once again make a major move. – via ESPN

[Meticode]

C: Turner
PF: Giannis
SF: Kyle Kuzma
SG: Trent Jr.
PG: Porter Jr.

...I don't know. I feel like they need to get something better in there besides Kuzma. I'm fine with Trent Jr. and Porter Jr. Porter can legit be a 2nd option and has shown in the past he can be, he just hasn't gotten the playing time the last two years. He's still only 25 and averaged 19/5/5 in Houston a few years back.

[Meticode]

Biggest winners so far is who? Rockets? Landed Durant, pulled Finney-Smith away from the Lakers and got a legit backup center for Sengun in Capela. And still has the flexibility to make more moves if they want.

Hawks? Got Porzingis, NAW, Luke Kennard? Got a Top 5 pick next year.

[beasted]

C: Turner
PF: Giannis
SF: Kyle Kuzma
SG: Trent Jr.
PG: Porter Jr.

...I don't know. I feel like they need to get something better in there besides Kuzma. I'm fine with Trent Jr. and Porter Jr. Porter can legit be a 2nd option and has shown in the past he can be, he just hasn't gotten the playing time the last two years. He's still only 25 and averaged 19/5/5 in Houston a few years back.

They should have signed and traded Portis for better guard depth. Kuzma is a swing forward and can play PF at times. Giannis is going to also play 35 minutes a night. If things are going right, Turner is going to play 30 minutes. So are you really needing Portis?

Anyway, with what they have now, maybe their best move is to try and bring back Brogdon.

[Meticode]

They should have signed and traded Portis for better guard depth. Kuzma is a swing forward and can play PF at times. Giannis is going to also play 35 minutes a night. If things are going right, Turner is going to play 30 minutes. So are you really needing Portis?

Anyway, with what they have now, maybe their best move is to try and bring back Brogdon.

Yea I don't know. I just don't like Kuzma since I saw what he did in Washington and how he performed as a Buck. Especially in the playoffs putting up quintuple zeros in a game.

[Xiao Yao You]

C: Turner
PF: Giannis
SF: Kyle Kuzma
SG: Trent Jr.
PG: Porter Jr.

...I don't know. I feel like they need to get something better in there besides Kuzma. I'm fine with Trent Jr. and Porter Jr. Porter can legit be a 2nd option and has shown in the past he can be, he just hasn't gotten the playing time the last two years. He's still only 25 and averaged 19/5/5 in Houston a few years back.

Kuzma off the bench makes more sense to me

[Xiao Yao You]

Biggest winners so far is who? Rockets? Landed Durant, pulled Finney-Smith away from the Lakers and got a legit backup center for Sengun in Capela. And still has the flexibility to make more moves if they want.

Hawks? Got Porzingis, NAW, Luke Kennard? Got a Top 5 pick next year.

Nuggets who took okc to 7 games

[Manny98]

Certainly looks like the worst team in the league. Way to go? :facepalm

One of the best young core's in the league

Stacked draft next year and we have a treasure chest of picks

[Manny98]

I'm not saying it definitely won't happen but any GM that trades a first round pick to pay 40mil per for a 3-and-no-D roleplayer is crazy.

The Nuggets just basically did that with Cam Johnson and a healthy Porter can get you 30ppg , he's one of the best pure scorers in the league

[Manny98]

Lakers lose DFS to Houston:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dorian-finney-smith-leaving-lakers-will-sign-with-rockets-on-four-year-53-million-deal-per-report/

Lakers front office :facepalm

Guys like DFS & Caruso define championship teams and are often just as important as your stars

Lakers went from 2% to 0.1% chance of winning just by losing DFS

[999Guy]

The Nuggets just basically did that with Cam Johnson and a healthy Porter can get you 30ppg , he's one of the best pure scorers in the league

This is just lying.

[Axe]

C: Turner
PF: Giannis
SF: Kyle Kuzma
SG: Trent Jr.
PG: Porter Jr.

...I don't know. I feel like they need to get something better in there besides Kuzma. I'm fine with Trent Jr. and Porter Jr. Porter can legit be a 2nd option and has shown in the past he can be, he just hasn't gotten the playing time the last two years. He's still only 25 and averaged 19/5/5 in Houston a few years back.
Getting rid of coach rivers for someone who's more competent will help them a lot.

[Meticode]

Chris Haynes reporting Giannis wasn't happy about Lillard getting waived...

https://www.si.com/nba/chris-haynes-giannis-antetokounmpo-unhappy-with-bucks

If this is true I'm not sure why. Lillard is going to turn 35 in two weeks, he's going to miss most if not all of next season. And by the time he "possibly" comes back to 100% he's going to be 36. He's fine with the Bucks sucking this upcoming season if he stays?

[NBAGOAT]

kuzmas getting traded for a wing or pg. bucks will have to start porter or taurean prince but trent jr and myles are fine as starters. simons is an option as is malik monk. hell i consider derozan or cj mccollum too its desperate times for the bucks. Can sign brogdon as a backup too

[Xiao Yao You]

The Phoenix Suns have been discussing a possible buyout for guard Bradley Beal, league sources have informed The Arizona Republic. – via Arizona Republic

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Nuggets just basically did that with Cam Johnson and a healthy Porter can get you 30ppg , he's one of the best pure scorers in the league
At what point do we stop saying a guy is one of the best? top 60? I'm not sure where Porter world rank on a list of the league's best scorers but how often is a guy this on his team in scoring, doesn't average 20, but is somehow regarded as one of the best scorers in the league? There are actual great players that never averaged 30.

[Xiao Yao You]

Shams Charania: BREAKING: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade that sends Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Los Angeles, and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a 2027 Clippers second-round pick to the Jazz, sources tell ESPN.

[Xiao Yao You]

Great pick and roll/pop partner for harden. 3 level scorer. Double/double machine. Not great defender

[Xiao Yao You]

Id guess love wont play for jazz. Anderson might til trade deadline anyway

[Xiao Yao You]

Love expiring so flip or buyout i imagine. Anderson 1 more year on deal after next season

[Xiao Yao You]

Heat should be in mix in wide open east. Clipps look good. Comes down to kawai. Good luck with that

[Xiao Yao You]

Michael Scotto: Sources: The Los Angeles Clippers were reluctant to give Norman Powell a long-term extension as he enters the final year of his deal ($20.48 million) with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden signed through the 2026-27 season. The Clippers are prioritizing significant cap space in 2027 – via Twitter MikeAScotto

[Xiao Yao You]

Someone will want their cap space

Yossi Gozlan: The Jazz decreased payroll enough where they could pivot to becoming a cap space team. They can have $22 million in cap space if they waive KJ Martin and Jaden Springer’s non-guaranteed salaries. This would give them more spending as well as the $8.8 million room mid-level. – via Bluesky

[FultzNationRISE]

Lakers front office :facepalm

Guys like DFS & Caruso define championship teams and are often just as important as your stars

Lakers went from 2% to 0.1% chance of winning just by losing DFS


Im shocked they didnt resign him. Unless they made an offer and he just preferred to go to Houston. He is kind of an old school southern cat. Maybe he just didnt wanna play in LA long term.

If the Lakers didnt even make a serious offer tho, they kinda ****ed up. Altho maybe his age was part of it. He's 32 now and maybe if they thought (correctly) theyre not ready to contend right now, it doesnt make sense to pay him right now. I dunno.

[Xiao Yao You]

If he wants to win he made the right choice. Rockets are contenders. Lakers are not

[coin24]

Collins was feasting whenever he played last season, good to see him get away from the loser jazz. Get lauri the fu*k outta there too

[Xiao Yao You]

Lauri will be gone eventually

[FultzNationRISE]

Lakers signed Jake LaRavia, who is probably the single most similar player in the league to Dalton Knecht. Same size, same age, both have bounce and can get super hot from outside. Nothing special defensively but not the worst either. Feels like Knecht being put in a deal at some point is still very much on the menu. Almost a certainty.

[Wally450]

Is it true the Warriors haven't done a single thing? You'd think they would want to put something around Curry in his twilight years.

[beasted]

Is it true the Warriors haven't done a single thing? You'd think they would want to put something around Curry in his twilight years.

They are putting all their hopes in Horford and possibly Beal. Risky.

They are also kind of stuck because of the Kuminga stuff.

[Xiao Yao You]

None of it matters if they arent healthy when it matters. Getting old sucks