Blue Collar wage growth the highest it's been in almost 60yrs.

[Hey Yo]

In President Donald J. Trump’s first five months in office, real wages for hourly workers have seen their largest increase under any administration in nearly 60 years — and we’re just getting started with pro-growth, pro-prosperity policies that finally put America First.

Blue-collar workers have seen real wages grow almost two percent in the first five months of President Trump’s second term — a stark contrast from the negative wage growth seen during the first five months of the Biden Administration.

“The only other time it has been this high … was during President Trump’s first term,” Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent said in an interview with the New York Post.

The New York Post notes: “Since Richard Nixon in 1969, Trump has been the only president to record positive growth for blue-collar workers in his first five months. He also achieved 1.3% in his first term … The recovery from a 1.7% decline recorded in Biden’s first five months, as inflation outpaced earnings, suggests a shift in economic conditions for this financially stressed segment of the workforce.”


chart of wage growth and/or decline since 1969 in link
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/icymi-blue-collar-wage-growth-sees-largest-increase-in-nearly-60-years-under-trump/

[Bill Gates]

Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

[Baller234]

Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

Uh, what?

Assuming you're right and that's what's causing the uptick, how do you conclude that no one is making more money? Those low wage jobs that were going to illegals would now go to US citizens and at higher wages.

[highwhey]

:roll::roll::roll:

[TeflonDonTrump]

Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

Now you are against wages going up?

[Bill Gates]

Uh, what?

Assuming you're right and that's what's causing the uptick, how do you conclude that no one is making more money? Those low wage jobs that were going to illegals would now go to US citizens and at higher wages.

It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.

[highwhey]

It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.

i'd say inflation is the biggest cause. wages weren't growing immediately after covid bc wages always lag behind. and truthfully, are we supposed to trust anything trump's admin publishes? especially when their only source is the new york post? lol. i can publish a statement saying "i offer the best xyz service in the country as seen on the new york post", all bc i paid to have an ad run on their site.

[Baller234]

It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.

It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

It's simple math

Remove all the lowest "illegal" wages, and of those left remaining, the AVERAGE wage is now higher without anyone getting a raise.

https://c.tenor.com/XiDZ1XwFoCYAAAAd/tenor.gif

[highwhey]

It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:

yes, and therefore their end product/service also increases in price. hence, inflation. congrats, you just played yourself.

i specifically remember the republican party being against $17/hr min wage 10 years ago bc it would increase the price of mcdonald's burgers, and cause inflation as a result.

[Hey Yo]

Highlyghey, a coked up daycare worker, doesn't know shit about blue collar jobs.

[highwhey]

Highlyghey, a coked up daycare worker, doesn't know shit about blue collar jobs.
fuming

https://media1.tenor.com/m/oVRHFSzShI4AAAAd/smoking-duck-duck-shaking-head.gif

[Baller234]

yes, and therefore their end product/service also increases in price. hence, inflation. congrats, you just played yourself.

i specifically remember the republican party being against $17/hr min wage 10 years ago bc it would increase the price of mcdonald's burgers, and cause inflation as a result.

I could totally understand why you would think that, because you're an autistic retard who doesn't understand basic things and so you can't help but misinterpret the other side's argument.

The right believes that employees are entitled to fair market wages. Nothing more, nothing less. If the government is artificially setting the price of labor, that undermines the free market. If an employer is paying below market wages to illegals because those applicants have no other options, that also undermines the free market.

[highwhey]

I could totally understand why you would think that, because you're an autistic retard who doesn't understand basic things and so you can't help but misinterpret the other side's argument.

The right believes that employees are entitled to fair market wages. Nothing more, nothing less. If the government is artificially setting the price of labor, that undermines the free market. If an employer is paying below market wages to illegals because those applicants have no other options, that also undermines the free market.

is that why they're fuming and complaining to trump that their farming illegal employees are being deported? is that why trump is considering a temporary stay (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-urges-temporary-pass-from-immigration-crackdown-key-industries-i-cherish-our-farmers) for farming and hotel workers? Doesn't this undermine immigration enforcement's efforts in ridding the country of illegals? or affect market wages by not only allowing but blessing illegal immigrants in the agricultural and hospitality industry to work for below min wages?

you also know zero about profit and loss or the cause and effect of wages to an end product/service. you've never sat down with a cpa and gone over your numbers down to the cent.

[ZenMaster]

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421

[highwhey]

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1939529326397194421

nice. i still don't see that in AZ, where the majority of blue collar workers are Hispanic. it goes without saying that the majority of employers for blue collar jobs are MAGA, actually like 99% of them are MAGAs. interesting that this goes unsaid on fox news or social media. a very interesting fact indeed if i say so myself.

also interesting that the president owns hotels and is now pleading the feds to allow illegal hotel workers to stay. very interesting and totally not illegal or suspicious.

[Jasper]

why ???

Mega's that have millions are moving out of cities and into the wilderness...

building their same homes on rivers , lakes , and woods.

Builders are making tons of money.

DAH

[Lakers Legend#32]

And we're supposed to believe a press release from THIS White House?

[highwhey]

And we're supposed to believe a press release from THIS White House?

none of their claims are ever revisited by them bc they're all false and exaggerated.

[Bill Gates]

It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:

That labor is mostly being replaced by automation and the others having to pick up the slack. It's not being replaced by white people, that's for sure.

Still a work shortage in the restaurant industry because whites refuse to do it.

Illegals were a god send for whites tbh

[Baller234]

That labor is mostly being replaced by automation and the others having to pick up the slack. It's not being replaced by white people, that's for sure.

Still a work shortage in the restaurant industry because whites refuse to do it.

Illegals were a god send for whites tbh

This was an extremely telling response from you.

I made no mention of color. I said that the jobs being done by illegals would go to american citizens. But when you hear "american citizen", you immediately think of white people by default. You could have just as easily said that illegals do the jobs that americans won't, but you specifically chose to isolate white people. Very odd but revealing choice.

Can I ask why you have zero consideration for non-white americans who also might want to consider applying for a job?

[Bill Gates]

So you have conceded my point and have now moved the goal post to I'm racist.

[Baller234]

So you have conceded my point and have now moved the goal post to I'm racist.

Why did you choose to isolate white people in your response?

Why go out of your way to say "white people are lazy" during a discussion about american jobs?

[Bill Gates]

Why did you choose to isolate white people in your response?

Why go out of your way to say "white people are lazy" during a discussion about american jobs?

I did that for you. Because it's what you care about

[Baller234]

I did that for you. Because it's what you care about

Oh yea? Interesting.

So if illegals are deported and all these job openings become available, and all the white people are too lazy, wouldn't that be a great thing for all the hardworking non-whites? Wouldn't that mean higher wages and less competition in the job market?

How come you don't want non-whites earning higher wages?

[Patrick Chewing]

It's really wild how you don't even understand your own hypothetical scenario. :oldlol:

If someone is employing illegals at low unfair wages, but those employees are removed, they now have no choice but to offer those jobs to americans at fair market wages.

Those jobs just don't disappear.

:oldlol:

I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:

Absolutely some of them did, that relied heavy on cheap workforce. You don't think any businesses were effected by ICE raids? :facepalm

https://www.ft.com/content/4c6e379b-d4e6-4514-a37b-d820be59f51d


US farmers depend on temporary foreign workers to harvest fruitUS business leaders are warning that Donald Trump’s plan to deport millions of undocumented workers could create mass labour shortages, closing restaurants, crippling farms and small businesses, and raising prices.


But mostly the ones who have had to quciky pivot and adjust are doing so by making the others work harder and finding ways to automate.

[Bill Gates]

https://live.staticflickr.com/5146/5662905485_4d800532a5_c.jpg

[Baller234]

Bill Gates going full mask off. He can't even hide it anymore.

I wonder what his imaginary wife and children must think.

[Baller234]

I'm sitting here dumbfounded at what he said. Is he under the impression those business that funded the cheap labor just up and folded and closed up shop?? :oldlol:

He's not looking to have a good faith discussion or arrive at the truth. He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most, even when he is on the wrong side of a common sense issue.

If Donald Trump and his supporters said that water was wet, he would be obligated to disagree out of pure resentment and hatred.

[highwhey]

https://live.staticflickr.com/5146/5662905485_4d800532a5_c.jpg

this is extremely hilarious bc it's unequivocally the perfect image that represents patrickchewing since he weighs 400 POUNDS and goes around blaming illegals for his life's mishaps.

[Bill Gates]

He's not looking to have a good faith discussion or arrive at the truth. He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most, even when he is on the wrong side of a common sense issue.

If Donald Trump and his supporters said that water was wet, he would be obligated to disagree out of pure resentment and hatred.

Everything I am saying is bona fide concrete real.

And that's why it bothers you so very much.

[Patrick Chewing]

Absolutely some of them did, that relied heavy on cheap workforce. You don't think any businesses were effected by ICE raids? :facepalm

https://www.ft.com/content/4c6e379b-d4e6-4514-a37b-d820be59f51d




But mostly the ones who have had to quciky pivot and adjust are doing so by making the others work harder and finding ways to automate.

You posted a link that shows that NO business has closed due to Trump's deportations. Did you even read the wack ass pay a $1 to read link you posted before prematurely blowing your load in what is now a failed attempt at trying to prove us wrong??

[Doomsday Dallas]

He is motivated purely by whatever he believes will upset right wingers the most


Liberals are notorious hypocrites.

It's all virtue signaling... and none of these white liberals gave a flying f*ck about the issue before 2016.


How many illegals did Obama deport? There wasn't one white libtard that gave a f*ck about Obama deporting illegals. Not one.

Trump says "you have to go back" in 2016, wins the election, and suddenly the white libtard community is pretending that they give a $hit about the lawnmower man.



I think the political incorrectness of Trump is what was attractive to half the country, and appaling to the other half.

They'd rather have a braindead senile stiff in the white house who comes across as "presidential" and is politically correct, as opposed to Trump who straight up doesn't give a f*ck.

It's 100% TDS, nothing more, nothing less.



Do you really think Bill Gates cares about Diego, Alejandro, and Antonio getting deported?.... no, he doesn't. It's only because team MAGA supports it.

Liberals used to sing a different tune before MAGA entered the picture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AVvdCyeQfI

[Baller234]

Everything I am saying is bona fide concrete real.

And that's why it bothers you so very much.

Literally nothing you say is ever real. :oldlol:

[Baller234]

Do you really think Bill Gates cares about Diego, Alejandro, and Antonio getting deported?.... no, he doesn't. It's only because team MAGA supports it.

For years they pretended like illegal immigration wasn't even a problem. From 2015 up until about 2023, if you even mentioned illegal immigration you were dubbed an evil racist spouting fake conspiracy theories.

Sometime in the middle of Biden's administration it started backfiring and you saw democrats slowly abandoning ship. By the time we were approaching the election Kamala was campaigning on finishing Trump's wall. :oldlol:

Hypocrites like Bill Gates said nothing at all. They pretend they're moderates on the subject now. They'll hit you with "Look I'm okay with getting rid of the criminals everyone agrees with that but not the hardworking ones..."

Meanwhile they said fukk all when the criminals were actually pouring in and called YOU an evil racist for daring to point it out.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xYF9y0VlEg

[Doomsday Dallas]

For years they pretended like illegal immigration wasn't even a problem. From 2015 up until about 2023, if you even mentioned illegal immigration you were dubbed an evil racist spouting fake conspiracy theories.

Sometime in the middle of Biden's administration it started backfiring and you saw democrats slowly abandoning ship. By the time we were approaching the election Kamala was campaigning on finishing Trump's wall. :oldlol:

Hypocrites like Bill Gates said nothing at all. They pretend they're moderates on the subject now. They'll hit you with "Look I'm okay with getting rid of the criminals everyone agrees with that but not the hardworking ones..."

Meanwhile they said fukk all when the criminals were actually pouring in and called YOU an evil racist for daring to point it out.



It's all virtue signaling & MAGA hate.

Kamala could've won and done things on a more extreme level than Trump, and white liberals would've somehow still applauded her... or just stayed silent.



Liberals showed their true colors when they were satisfied with having a 4 year Weekend at Bernie's

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.5288782028.2515/fposter,small,wall_texture,product,750x1000.jpg

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79x0yfGlLvQ



I'm a Minority in Texas..... but what's funny is that Texas is still a Red State.

https://c.tenor.com/_L-RLOBy4n8AAAAd/tenor.gif


Popular vote Trump - 6,393,597.....Kamala - 4,835,250

Percentage Trump - 56.14% .......Kamala - 42.46%



Trump’s 13.7% margin was significantly greater than his single-digit margins in 2016 and 2020.


The former president captured 55% of Latino voters in the state, according to exit polls. He also won 14 out of the 18 counties within 20 miles of the border, a number that doubled his 2020 performance in the Latino-majority region.




Texas Democrats have long viewed the state’s growing Latino population as their ticket to eventually breaking through the Republican Party’s dominance. Tuesday night, however, showed that the GOP has made significant gains in peeling away those voters, and nowhere was that more apparent than along the border.

After years of losing the statewide Latino vote by double digits, Republicans set a high-water mark with Donald Trump capturing 55% of the critical voting bloc, besting Vice President Kamala Harris’ 44% share, according to exit polls.

In the traditionally Democratic strongholds along the border, Trump managed a near sweep.

He won 14 out of the 18 counties within 20 miles of the border, a number that doubled his attention-grabbing 2020 performance in the Latino-majority region. He carried all four counties in the Rio Grande Valley just eight years after drawing a mere 29% in the region — a feat that included delivering 97% Latino Starr County to Republicans for the first time since 1896. And, though he lost El Paso, one of the border’s most populous counties, he narrowed margins there in ways not seen in decades.

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/11/06/donald-trump-near-sweep-texas-border-counties/


https://c.tenor.com/rmtvkkGm7xYAAAAd/tenor.gif


Those Racist Hispanics!!!!!

[Lakers Legend#32]

I know I would completely trust (without any questions) a press statement from a convicted felon.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://pac.texaslatinoconservatives.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/TLC-Logo.png

https://media.tenor.com/SS-Lws30PFcAAAAM/tlc.gif

[Bill Gates]

What was I hypocritical about in here? nothing :oldlol:

And even if it is virtue signaling, that is still better than just being a shit head to other humans.

[Bill Gates]

Those Racist Hispanics!!!!!

They didn't vote. Like 75% of all voters in Texas were white.

Latinos voted for Harris in Texas, of the ones that did vote.

[Baller234]

What was I hypocritical about in here? nothing :oldlol:

And even if it is virtue signaling, that is still better than just being a shit head to other humans.

One side is offering a solution to a problem. They're saying hey maybe if we give these jobs to american citizens instead of illegals the country as a whole will be better off.

You're response was, "Oh yea!?!? Well white people are lazy! They'll never apply for a job!!"

This is obviously false and retarded, but even if it were true, you still wouldn't be accounting for the millions of hardworking non-whites who would sign up. It's like you didn't even take them into the equation.

But also, is that what you think? You think whites are spoiled and lazy but non-whites aren't? That sounds like a huge projection to me.

[Bill Gates]

One side is offering a solution to a problem. They're saying hey maybe if we give these jobs to american citizens instead of illegals the country as a whole will be better off.

You're response was, "Oh yea!?!? Well white people are lazy! They'll never apply for a job!!"

This is obviously false and retarded, but even if it were true, you still wouldn't be accounting for the millions of hardworking non-whites who would sign up. It's like you didn't even take them into the equation.

But also, is that what you think? You think whites are spoiled and lazy but non-whites aren't? That sounds like a huge projection to me.

My response was that rehiring at high wages isn't happening. What's happening that other workers are having to pick up the slack, or automation. And the businesses that relied heavy on illegals are in big trouble.

Then you guys: "HYPOCRIT VIRUE SIGNAL CRAZY!!!!----YOU'RE THE RACIST ONE!!!!!!!!" :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

They didn't vote. Like 75% of all voters in Texas were white.

Latinos voted for Harris in Texas, of the ones that did vote.


link?

[Bill Gates]

I used AI -


Latinos in Texas voted for Kamala Harris in the 2024 Presidential Election.
Statewide Texas: Latinos in Texas voted for Kamala Harris over Donald Trump 60%-38%.
National: Latinos overall voted for Harris over Trump by a 62%-37% margin.
Within Texas: Harris won the support of most Latino voters in Texas, securing a 60% share compared to Trump's 38%.
Democratic trend: This reflects a broader pattern, where a majority of Latinos nationwide voted for Harris.
Improved support for Trump: However, it's worth noting that Trump made gains among Latino voters in 2024 compared to his 2016 and 2020 campaigns.
Focus on economic issues: One major factor influencing Latino voters was the economy, particularly the cost of living and inflation.

[Bill Gates]

The GOP made gains with latinos in the election, compared to previous elections. But they didn't win the latino vote overall.

I can tell you this too, Any support that the GOP made with latinos in the toilet now. So your point is moot anyway.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGq3yEM7iLM


This is Latino MAGA today.

And, that one is on them. I mean, Trump ran his election on deporting them. He warned them he was going to do it. And they still voted for him? :oldlol:

Those ones got what they voted for.

[Hey Yo]

Legal, tax paying Latinos, want the illegals out. That’s been reported for some time now.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas


55% is the exit poll data.... but it's off by 17%? No.

[Bill Gates]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas


55% is the exit poll data.... but it's off by 17%? No.

That is a CNN run poll of 2,800 voters from who knows what area of Texas. Out of 11,000,000 votes in Texas.

Granted, I do not know where the AI I used is pulling from. So I will concede that it is possibly wrong. I do not think however that nation wide Trump won the latino vote. I don't know why we are narrowing it down to just YOUR state.

[Bill Gates]

Trump’s approval among Latino voters is crashing, new poll shows (https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/03/somos-votanes-poll-trump-approval-latinos-00381955)

This is what is happening now anyway. Again, whatever gains Trump made with latinos, it's gone now. He deported their cousins.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I don't know why we are narrowing it down to just YOUR state.


Maybe because Texas is Majority Hispanic, and also the most affected by illegal immigration...

Secondly... you have a world view that MAGA is nothing more than a bunch of hillbilly racist rednecks, completely disregarding the fact that many Hispanics support deportation.

[Bill Gates]

https://i.imgflip.com/9z1xzy.jpg



It is true that hypocrisy can be found in here.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrFC-AOeQzY

[Bill Gates]

Since the start of colonization in the U.S. it has grown gradually more progressive over time. With backlash from the right the entire road. Backlash from freeing slaves, allowing women to work and vote, etc. A civil war was even fought over it.

This is more of the same. Liberals of the year 2025 will look like conservatives compared to what is coming in the future. Progression doesn't stop here. Trumpers will be remembered as the confederates.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Since the start of colonization in the U.S. it has grown gradually more progressive over time. With backlash from the right the entire road. Backlash from freeing slaves, allowing women to work and vote, etc. A civil war was even fought over it.

This is more of the same. Liberals of the year 2025 will look like conservatives compared to what is coming in the future. Progression doesn't stop here. Trumpers will be remembered as the confederates.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45nAko8i-TM

[TheMan]

https://live.staticflickr.com/5146/5662905485_4d800532a5_c.jpg

Baller234, Chewing, Hey Yo, warriorfan

[warriorfan]

Highlyghey, a coked up daycare worker, doesn't know shit about blue collar jobs.

:roll:


Bill Gates going full mask off. He can't even hide it anymore.

I wonder what his imaginary wife and children must think.

:roll:

[warriorfan]

Baller234, Chewing, Hey Yo, warriorfan

Na

You really are a midget beaner though :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Na

You really are a midget beaner though :roll:

He came on here and bragged that he was 165 pounds :oldlol:

He needs to change his handle to TheKid or TheChump

[Lakers Legend#32]

The fact that Republicans look up to a billionaire real estate tycoon from New York shows you how much of a cult it is.
It's like the left looking to Larry the Cable Guy as their inspiration.

[Doomsday Dallas]

The fact that Republicans look up to a billionaire real estate tycoon from New York shows you how much of a cult it is.
It's like the left looking to Larry the Cable Guy as their inspiration.

You're just an angry black person that doesn't like white people.

I'm sorry that I have more privilege than you.

[Baller234]

Since the start of colonization in the U.S. it has grown gradually more progressive over time. With backlash from the right the entire road. Backlash from freeing slaves, allowing women to work and vote, etc. A civil war was even fought over it.

This is more of the same. Liberals of the year 2025 will look like conservatives compared to what is coming in the future. Progression doesn't stop here. Trumpers will be remembered as the confederates.

Liberals will be remembered as the party that lied about Covid, lied about Brandon and wanted to abolish genders.

[Off the Court]

You're just an angry black person that doesn't like white people.

I'm sorry that I have more privilege than you.

You play victim to blacks in here way more than he plays victim to whites.

[Doomsday Dallas]

You play victim to blacks in here way more than he plays victim to whites.


Not with all this white privilege I have over here.... impossible.

That's basic common sense Critical Race Theory knowledge that is taught in elementary school.

[RRR3]

Not with all this white privilege I have over here.... impossible.

That's basic common sense Critical Race Theory knowledge that is taught in elementary school.
Meltdown

[Jasper]

Liberals will be remembered as the party that lied about Covid, lied about Brandon and wanted to abolish genders.

u will be remember as the dumb fvck that had a mom that died from covid , but denys that , and says it was some kind of virus.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Meltdown


As if your party didn't support that bull$hit.... sounds racist doesn't it?

Imagine me telling a black man I have more privilege than him. That would make me racist wouldn't it?



https://youtu.be/JVVNs50A7Ic

[highwhey]

me telling a black man I have more privilege than him.


https://youtu.be/JVVNs50A7Ic

you;re racist bro

[Off the Court]

Doomsday is completely obsessed with black people.

[Patrick Chewing]

Doomsday is completely obsessed with black people.

So were Liberals until illegal immigrants took their place.

[Doomsday Dallas]

you;re racist bro


STFU lol... Hispanics are probably more racist than whites & blacks combined... and you know it lol.

I hear the $hit your people say behind closed doors... Don't even try to deny it.

Quit acting like your all innocent over there.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Doomsday is completely obsessed with black people.


Lakers Legend made a "cult" comment about MAGA.

if MAGA is a cult.... idk what to call the Woke mind virus.


Wokeness is what freed many people from the Democratic Plantation... Many Blacks & Hispanics jump shipped not because of the economy, but because of wokeness. Even Bill Maher was like WTF?

Unfortunately the TDS mind virus can become so powerful and irreversible in a liberal's mind... they are forced to give into the most retarded Woke ideologies presented to them.



https://youtu.be/jhoPMJb-xx0

[Lakers Legend#32]

That's basic common sense Critical Race Theory knowledge that is taught in elementary school.

Call the FOX News deprogrammers.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Call the FOX News deprogrammers.


I hated FOX News before Nas did. They will always be unforgiven.

oh.... and I kneeled during the anthem way before Colin Kaepernick did.... probably around 2006.



True Story.

[ShawkFactory]

I hated FOX News before Nas did. They will always be unforgiven.

oh.... and I kneeled during the anthem way before Colin Kaepernick did.... probably around 2006.



True Story.

If that is indeed true, why?

Not a trick question but genuinely curious.

[Doomsday Dallas]

If that is indeed true, why?

Not a trick question but genuinely curious.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdr_2IAJWU

[Off the Court]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6bdr_2IAJWU

https://media1.tenor.com/m/FE6caXZ5sS0AAAAC/confused-wth.gif

The f@#k that have to do with kneeling during the anthem in 2006? :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/FE6caXZ5sS0AAAAC/confused-wth.gif

The f@#k that have to do with kneeling during the anthem in 2006? :oldlol:


I took a knee during the anthem because 9/11 is a lie.

And folks like you believe every word of the official story. Not me.

[Off the Court]

Ah so you're like the tin foil version of Kap. Kneeling in your mom's basement :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Ah so you're like the tin foil version of Kap. Kneeling in your mom's basement :oldlol:

No it was at a Mavs game… when everybody and their mother was patriotic to the fullest extent.

Folks sitting behind me were not very happy about it, but I expressed how I felt at the time.


The tin foil hat is what you are wearing, believing the government’s ridiculous conspiracy theory.

Yea we know the Far Left is terrified of tin foil, unless it’s government issued MSM approved tin foil… and that’s why your side is the cult.

[Off the Court]

So you were pro-kneeling and and anti-Gov. Now against kneeling and pro-Gov. :oldlol:

Hilarious seeing you call everyone a hypocrite while being a full blown hypocrite.

It's like condemning black culture, and then posting a rap video you love.

[Doomsday Dallas]

So you were pro-kneeling and and anti-Gov. Now against kneeling and pro-Gov. :oldlol:

Hilarious seeing you call everyone a hypocrite while being a full blown hypocrite.

It's like condemning black culture, and then posting a rap video you love.



I’ve always claimed to be an independent…. But very much against the modern day libtard.

Nowhere have I ever been pro government. That’s Democrats. Hence the stupidity of “Democratic Socialism”


Secondly, we the people kneeled to the anthem regarding a local isolated incident where one man died…. I kneeled over the death of millions of people based on decisions and lies from the US government that continue to deceive the entire world til this day. Even your average libtard today knows at the bare minimum we lied about WMDs regardless of what you think about 9/11. Big Difference.

[Doomsday Dallas]

It's like condemning black culture, and then posting a rap video you love.


You mean the oppressed black rap artists that are making millions of dollars and saying and doing whatever the f*ck they want without any backlash or cancel culture coming after them? (Except Kanye).

Yea unfortunately for me some of those people make good music and have good beats…

Guilty as charged that some of their music is good…. Doesn’t mean you have to embrace Snoop Dogg’s lifestyle cause you like one of his songs.





Oh wait…. I forgot about Lil Wayne who thought BLM was a joke. Life was saved by a white police officer. He can say a million different things in his lyrics, but the moment he criticized the BLM movement he got criticized himself…. lol.

Rap Artists can say whatever they want in their lyrics, promoting black on black murder… but how dare they go against the almighty BLM movement… you mean that hypocrisy?

[Baller234]

You're not allowed to criticize a certain culture because you happen to enjoy rap music? What? :oldlol:

[Off the Court]

Sorry bruh, if you make threads condemning rap culture and you're running around listening to Snoop and Death Row youz a hypocrite.

Do you love watching the RuPaul show too? :oldlol:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Do you love watching the RuPaul show too? :oldlol:

RuPaul… perfect example that the Tranny community has had no oppression.

How long has he/she been around as an icon?

When your side starts trying to normalize RuPaul ideology with children… then it becomes a problem.

Same with CRT.

Children are the least racist, most innocent people we have…. And what does your side want to do? Teach black children they’re at a disadvantage and white children they’re privileged. Great idea!


And why would you support gender affirming care for minors or CRT? Because you suffer from TDS at such an alarming rate that you’re incapable of criticizing the far left… and thus defend every retarded woke ideology they have to offer.

[Off the Court]

Yeah I'm sure RuPaul never faced any oppression at all :oldlol: :facepalm

I guess opening that door was my own fault, anyway, you're a dumb and ignorant hypocrite.

[Baller234]

Sorry bruh, if you make threads condemning rap culture and you're running around listening to Snoop and Death Row youz a hypocrite.

Do you love watching the RuPaul show too? :oldlol:

That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Everyone knows certain foods are unhealthy but they consume them anyway for simple pleasure and enjoyment. I know chocolate cake is bad for me and provides nothing but empty calories but that doesn't mean I won't have a piece of birthday cake. There is a time and place for everything.

Yes a lot of rap music is vile and ignorant. The issue isn't so much the music itself, it was the complete and total mainstream embrace. Once MTV started getting behind gangster rap and airing music videos in the afternoon when kids were getting out of school, the rest was history. In hindsight there should have been way more pushback but of course everyone who spoke out in real time was demonized. If you were white you were a racist, if you were black you were a sellout.

An entire generation was totally corrupted by rap music because it became a substitute for parenting. Kids idolized these rappers without having a male role model to look up to in their own family. There's nothing wrong with chocolate cake... until you're feeding your children cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Now you're an adult and you have diabetes and it's time to remove your foot.

[RRR3]

Bawler is terrified of rap but probably happily listens to rock music with questionable lyrics.

[Baller234]

Bawler is terrified of rap but probably happily listens to rock music with questionable lyrics.

I've probably been listening to rap (and gangster rap) longer than you've been alive.

[RRR3]

I've probably been listening to rap (and gangster rap) longer than you've been alive.
Then why were you just saying society should have done something about it, gramps? :facepalm

[Baller234]

Then why were you just saying society should have done something about it, gramps? :facepalm

Maybe if you read my post and possessed basic reading comprehension you would understand.

[ShawkFactory]

You mean the oppressed black rap artists that are making millions of dollars and saying and doing whatever the f*ck they want without any backlash or cancel culture coming after them? (Except Kanye).

Yea unfortunately for me some of those people make good music and have good beats…

Guilty as charged that some of their music is good…. Doesn’t mean you have to embrace Snoop Dogg’s lifestyle cause you like one of his songs.





Oh wait…. I forgot about Lil Wayne who thought BLM was a joke. Life was saved by a white police officer. He can say a million different things in his lyrics, but the moment he criticized the BLM movement he got criticized himself…. lol.

Rap Artists can say whatever they want in their lyrics, promoting black on black murder… but how dare they go against the almighty BLM movement… you mean that hypocrisy?

What's wrong with Snoop Dogg's lifestyle? Smokes too much weed?

Isn't he known to be a very philanthropic and overall good guy?

[Baller234]

What's wrong with Snoop Dogg's lifestyle? Smokes too much weed?

Isn't he known to be a very philanthropic and overall good guy?

He publicly boasts about being affiliated with the crips.

[Off the Court]

That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Everyone knows certain foods are unhealthy but they consume them anyway for simple pleasure and enjoyment. I know chocolate cake is bad for me and provides nothing but empty calories but that doesn't mean I won't have a piece of birthday cake. There is a time and place for everything.

Yes a lot of rap music is vile and ignorant. The issue isn't so much the music itself, it was the complete and total mainstream embrace. Once MTV started getting behind gangster rap and airing music videos in the afternoon when kids were getting out of school, the rest was history. In hindsight there should have been way more pushback but of course everyone who spoke out in real time was demonized. If you were white you were a racist, if you were black you were a sellout.

An entire generation was totally corrupted by rap music because it became a substitute for parenting. Kids idolized these rappers without having a male role model to look up to in their own family. There's nothing wrong with chocolate cake... until you're feeding your children cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Now you're an adult and you have diabetes and it's time to remove your foot.

Lol huh?

If you're making threads about how bad chocolate cake is while eating chocolate cake, then you're a hypocrite. WTF do you think hypocrite means?

:roll:

[RRR3]

He publicly boasts about being affiliated with the crips.
Trump bragged about assaulting women and you think he’s the greatest man alive. Spare us.

[RRR3]

Lol huh?

If you're making threads about how bad chocolate cake is while eating chocolate cake, then you're a hypocrite. WTF do you think hypocrite means?

:roll:
:oldlol:


Bawler at it again.

[Off the Court]

"If blacks would just clean up that damn rap culture!!!!!"

*singing in Snoop voice "it's 1-8-7 on an under cover cop"



:oldlol:

[Baller234]

Lol huh?

If you're making threads about how bad chocolate cake is while eating chocolate cake, then you're a hypocrite. WTF do you think hypocrite means?

:roll:

I take it you've never heard the term "guilty pleasure"?

[ShawkFactory]

He publicly boasts about being affiliated with the crips.

When you say "publicly" do you mean in his (primarily early) lyrics?

If he's off-the-mic boasted about gang activity that would be news to me.

[Baller234]

:oldlol:


Bawler at it again.

3tard wasting his time posting on ISH again when he should really be looking for a job because he's broke and has no money.

[Off the Court]

I take it you've never heard the term "guilty pleasure"?

I don't preach my guilty pleasures.

[Baller234]

When you say "publicly" do you mean in his (primarily early) lyrics?

If he's off-the-mic boasted about gang activity that would be news to me.

I'm not talking about lyrics. I'm talking about real life. He proudly boasts about his past gang affiliation. He even crip walked during his super bowl performance.

Then you have Jay-Z who brags about being a former heroin dealer.

Or Cardi B who bragged about drugging men and robbing them which was the inspiration for the Jennifer Lopez film "Hustlers"... which Cardi appears in.

[RRR3]

3tard wasting his time posting on ISH again when he should really be looking for a job because he's broke and has no money.
I make enough money to not starve. Funny you think money determines someone’s value pretty pathetic mindset. No wonder you love Dump.

[ShawkFactory]

I'm not talking about lyrics. I'm talking about real life. He proudly boasts about his past gang affiliation. He even crip walked during his super bowl performance.

Then you have Jay-Z who brags about being a former heroin dealer.

Or Cardi B who bragged about drugging men and robbing them which was the inspiration for the Jennifer Lopez film "Hustlers"... which Cardi appears in.

Simply stating something that happened doesn't mean that someone is bragging about it.

[Axe]

3tard wasting his time posting on ISH again when he should really be looking for a job because he's broke and has no money.
Hey, you should be telling the crackhead welfarefan that. Not anyone else. Also, you are not funny at all.

[Baller234]

I make enough money to not starve. Funny you think money determines someone’s value pretty pathetic mindset. No wonder you love Dump.

So that's your goal in life? Not to starve?

If that's all you expect then I'm not the one putting a low value on your life, you are.

[Baller234]

Simply stating something that happened doesn't mean that someone is bragging about it.

Uh.. except they brag about it.

[Baller234]

Hey, you should be telling the crackhead welfarefan that. Not anyone else. Also, you are not funny at all.

I know it's you 3tard. :oldlol:

[ShawkFactory]

Uh.. except they brag about it.

In their lyrics? Or outside?

Cardi B in particular in an interview with BBC:

"Whether or not they were poor choices at the time, I did what I had to do to survive," she wrote on Tuesday.

"I never claimed to be perfect or come from a perfect world."

In response to the furore, she wrote on Instagram that she had been talking "about things in my past right or wrong that I felt I needed to do to make a living".

She added: "I'm a part of a hip-hop culture where you can talk about where you come from, talk about the wrong things you had to do to get where you are."

Doesn't seem like "bragging" to me :confusedshrug:

[Axe]

I know it's you 3tard. :oldlol:
No. You need to take a deep breath.

[RRR3]

I know it's you 3tard. :oldlol:
Man you’re truly dumb if you think I’m Axe.

[Doomsday Dallas]

In their lyrics? Or outside?

Cardi B in particular in an interview with BBC:

"Whether or not they were poor choices at the time, I did what I had to do to survive," she wrote on Tuesday.

"I never claimed to be perfect or come from a perfect world."

In response to the furore, she wrote on Instagram that she had been talking "about things in my past right or wrong that I felt I needed to do to make a living".

She added: "I'm a part of a hip-hop culture where you can talk about where you come from, talk about the wrong things you had to do to get where you are."

Doesn't seem like "bragging" to me :confusedshrug:


Yea…. Cardi B is so humble about her past. The way she carries herself today is role model material. Give me a break.

[Doomsday Dallas]

I don't preach my guilty pleasures.


That’s very conservative of you.

Liberals preach their guilty pleasures all the time…. Without the guilt.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea…. Cardi B is so humble about her past. The way she carries herself today is role model material. Give me a break.

When did I say that?

That's called moving the goalposts, my friend.

[Doomsday Dallas]

When did I say that?

That's called moving the goalposts, my friend.


you may not have said it... but the Democratic Party acts like it.

She interviewed Joe Biden in 2020 for ffs. Was invited to speak at the campaign rally for Kamala.

Not exactly they type of person you'd want representing your party imo.



Like I've said in the past: Trump says "Grab em' by the p*ssy in private" he gets crucified... Cardi makes a hit song titled "Wet @ss P*ssy" and is celebrated.

No hypocrisy there.

[RRR3]

you may not have said it... but the Democratic Party acts like it.

She interviewed Joe Biden in 2020 for ffs. Was invited to speak at the campaign rally for Kamala.

Not exactly they type of person you'd want representing your party imo.



Like I've said in the past: Trump says "Grab em' by the p*ssy in private" he gets crucified... Cardi makes a hit song titled "Wet @ss P*ssy" and is celebrated.

No hypocrisy there.
Talking about sexually assaulting women is not the same as singing about a wet ****** you retard

[ShawkFactory]

you may not have said it... but the Democratic Party acts like it.

She interviewed Joe Biden in 2020 for ffs. Was invited to speak at the campaign rally for Kamala.

Not exactly they type of person you'd want representing your party imo.



Like I've said in the past: Trump says "Grab em' by the p*ssy in private" he gets crucified... Cardi makes a hit song titled "Wet @ss P*ssy" and is celebrated.

No hypocrisy there.

Yea…still not really sure what this has to do with what I said or the conversation in general.

[Jasper]

can CA that lost tons of homes really affect national growth of home builders ???

[Off the Court]

Cardi B is not running for POTUS or her lyrics would be crucified. Obviously :oldlol:

One is an entertainer, the other is the leader of the most powerful country in the world.



No one gave a f@#k what Trump said until he ran for POTUS, obviously that puts one's character on the chopping block, as it should.

[Off the Court]

Today we all learned that the word "hypocrisy" is over the heads of both Baller and Doomsday.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Cardi B is not running for POTUS or her lyrics would be crucified. Obviously :oldlol:

One is an entertainer, the other is the leader of the most powerful country in the world.

No one gave a f@#k what Trump said until he ran for POTUS, obviously that puts one's character on the chopping block, as it should.



An entertainer that was asked to speak on behalf of Kamala. How'd that work out?


https://c.tenor.com/jjeXtnR52msAAAAd/tenor.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XINcrcvrMU

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Either way, Trump campaigned on being politically incorrect. Your side shouldn't have a problem with "keeping it real"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtuuFpRQyYk

[Doomsday Dallas]

Today we all learned that the word "hypocrisy" is over the heads of both Baller and Doomsday.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBH6dogebKA

[Axe]

Today we all learned that the word "hypocrisy" is over the heads of both Baller and Doomsday.
There could be a chance that baller is also gay judging the way he posts.

[jstern]

No. You need to take a deep breath.

You and "3tard," as Baller234 called RRR3, do have an affinity for Hot Pockets. What are the chances?

[Doomsday Dallas]

I make enough money to not starve. Funny you think money determines someone’s value pretty pathetic mindset. No wonder you love Dump.

https://c.tenor.com/45ESoyeH3ogAAAAd/tenor.gif








I beg to ask the question.... was it a good idea for the left to use Cardi B as apart of their campaign strategy?

Bad idea right?

[Doomsday Dallas]

In their lyrics? Or outside?

Cardi B in particular in an interview with BBC:

"Whether or not they were poor choices at the time, I did what I had to do to survive," she wrote on Tuesday.

"I never claimed to be perfect or come from a perfect world."

In response to the furore, she wrote on Instagram that she had been talking "about things in my past right or wrong that I felt I needed to do to make a living".

She added: "I'm a part of a hip-hop culture where you can talk about where you come from, talk about the wrong things you had to do to get where you are."

Doesn't seem like "bragging" to me :confusedshrug:


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[Doomsday Dallas]

I don't preach my guilty pleasures.


Today we all learned that the word "hypocrisy" is over the heads of both Baller and Doomsday.


Today we also learned that Off the Court applies double standards to his political viewpoints.


https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/uy/accounts/wwwlogicallyfallaciouscom/library-public/Double_Standard.jpg

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* also see Selective Outrage.

[Axe]

:blah
Go ingests more adderalls, you autistic freak. Nobody's stopping you at all.

[ZenMaster]

Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

Still funny how this was the first reply of the thread and been the theme sine. It really is the thing with people on the left, they can be average or high IQ, be able to sort all kinds of problems, but then all of the sudden they remove any kind of common sense and just throw out something completely crazy like Bill Gates here.

[Off the Court]

Yet another example of hypocrisy by Doomsday. Being outraged over Cardi B being "sexual" after admitting that he listens to Snoop Dog who raps about murder which is 100x worse :oldlol: :facepalm

[Doomsday Dallas]

Yet another example of hypocrisy by Doomsday. Being outraged over Cardi B being "sexual" after admitting that he listens to Snoop Dog who raps about murder which is 100x worse :oldlol: :facepalm

I don’t listen to Snoop Dogg, was just using him as an example…

And not only does he rap about murder, he raps about selling his soul.

[Bill Gates]

An area where Europe destroys the US. People in the US think acting sexual is crazy. Which ironically causes more of it.

There couldn't be a "Girls Gone Wild" in Europe, because showing boobs isn't a "thing" there like it is in the US. And Cardi B shaking her butt isn't a thing to them either. Naked bodies aren't a thing, we are born with them.

Meanwhile in the US, little kids are blowing each other's heads off with AK47s in video games, and watching it in movies like it's nothing. But are terrified of seeing a girl's butt.

[Bill Gates]

Still funny how this was the first reply of the thread and been the theme sine. It really is the thing with people on the left, they can be average or high IQ, be able to sort all kinds of problems, but then all of the sudden they remove any kind of common sense and just throw out something completely crazy like Bill Gates here.

Have you read this thread? It's diverged all over and we are at Cardi B now :oldlol:

My point was real though. Removing the lowest earners made the average pop. Sorry.

[warriorfan]

Today we also learned that Off the Court applies double standards to his political viewpoints.


https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/uy/accounts/wwwlogicallyfallaciouscom/library-public/Double_Standard.jpg

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https://thelibertariancatholic.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2019/07/lefts-double-standard.png



* also see Selective Outrage.

:roll:

[Doomsday Dallas]

Meanwhile in the US, little kids are blowing each other's heads off with AK47s in video games, and watching it in movies like it's nothing. But are terrified of seeing a girl's butt.

Terrified of a woman’s but? No, we’re talking about demoralizing behavior celebrated by liberals.

Example:

Amber Rose organized and held a "SlutWalk" event in Los Angeles in 2015 to raise awareness about gender inequality and slut-shaming. The event, which has been held annually, aims to challenge the stigma surrounding women's sexuality and promote body positivity.


This is what modern day feminism is turning into… and let me guess, you’ll find a way to justify this slutwalk ideology, or simply state it’s not that big of a deal.

Normalizing slutty behavior is not a Conservative trait… it’s a liberal one.

[Bill Gates]

Terrified of a woman’s but? No, we’re talking about demoralizing behavior celebrated by liberals.

Example:

Amber Rose organized and held a "SlutWalk" event in Los Angeles in 2015 to raise awareness about gender inequality and slut-shaming. The event, which has been held annually, aims to challenge the stigma surrounding women's sexuality and promote body positivity.


This is what modern day feminism is turning into… and let me guess, you’ll find a way to justify this slutwalk ideology, or simply state it’s not that big of a deal.

Normalizing slutty behavior is not a Conservative trait… it’s a liberal one.

"slutty behavior" isn't great, sure. But in comparison to violent behavior it is nothing. Which was the gist of my post. You are more terrified of people having sex than you are of people shooting you with a gun. Cardi B could only be a grand example of awful behavior to conservatives. Whereas to liberals it would be The Saw franchise. You care more about kids learning about sex than you do a shooter running into their school and blowing their heads off.

It's an American thing, where sex is placed on a pedestal above things that actually matter. Also an Muslim thing. Hide skin! Promote guns!

[Bill Gates]

https://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/v1723825296/sanity-new/amber-rose-continues-to-support-donald-trump-desp-3-713-1719511063-1_16x9-7697995.jpg

[Bill Gates]

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[ZenMaster]

Have you read this thread? It's diverged all over and we are at Cardi B now :oldlol:

My point was real though. Removing the lowest earners made the average pop. Sorry.

Your point is that people won't need someone to do their gardening because illegal immigrants went home, and it's beyond retarded :oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

Your point is that people won't need someone to do their gardening because illegal immigrants went home, and it's beyond retarded :oldlol:

No it wasn't. Strawman.

[Doomsday Dallas]

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This is where I say Republicans f*cked up… unlike your side that has not denounced anything….

I will admit that this is a tragic mistake made by Republicans. That woman does not represent conservative values. Big mistake MAGA. That’s shameful.

You see how easy that was?

Bill Maher uses the same logic… calls the bullshit out where he sees it regardless if it’s on the right or left. You and Off the Court have yet to admit any faults from the Left side.

Candace Owens has expressed her disappointment with Trump. Many Republicans have.


So back to the original comment/debate that Lakers Legend started: cult like behavior…. That would apply more to Leftists, since they are incapable of criticizing anything the Democratic Party does.

Look at what I just did, and look at how I did not apply the double standard and try to justify Amber “proud to be a slut” Rose speaking at the RNC.

[Bill Gates]

Trump won, so it couldn't have been that tragic of a mistake. If Biden were still in office, we would continue to say he is imperfect. He never had a cult following. No one ever thought he was great. Everyone knew it was just a placeholder to keep Trump away. In fact Dems kicked Biden out in favor of Kamala. Do you think that could happen with King Trump? :oldlol:

And unfortunately for you, Trump is the one in office. So he will be getting all the attention. Buckle up.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XINcrcvrMU



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4FnpoNU8AI


Let’s compare.

Seems like Amber is just admitting that she is a victim of the propaganda machine.

Not even claiming to be Republican or Conservative, just claiming to be MAGA 2024.

This is what you would call a paradox… a liberal Trump supporter.

[ZenMaster]

No it wasn't. Strawman.

"Strawman" :oldlol:

So if group A offers a service for 12/hr and leaves so group B can now do the service instead and for 15/hr, the people in group B won't be making more money than before? Because that's what you said:


Simply removing all the cheap illegal labor from the mean average will instantly make the average much higher. This is not the "W" that it looks like it is. No one is making more money, we just erased the lowest wages from the equation.

There's also a lot of positive social effects of paying someone from your own community rather than someone looking to take money out of it, but the above is real simple stuff sorry.

[Bill Gates]

Neither Cardi B nor Amber Rose are important at all or held any real value to either side. I don't care the slightest what either has to say. Both or their fans are generally young non-political types who don't vote.

Artists like Beyonce or Taylor Swift may have more pull, because their base is older now, however even with them I think you are dealing with a fan base that would have already voted Dem no matter what they said.

[Bill Gates]

"Strawman" :oldlol:

So if group A offers a service for 12/hr and leaves so group B can now do the service instead and for 15/hr, the people in group B won't be making more money than before? Because that's what you said:



There's also a lot of positive social effects of paying someone from your own community rather than someone looking to take money out of it, but the above is real simple stuff sorry.

Yes it was a strawman, you distorted my argument into something I never said. No where did I suggest that people won't need gardening now lol.

[ZenMaster]

Yes it was a strawman, you distorted my argument into something I never said. No where did I suggest that people won't need gardening now lol.

I applied common sense to your argument that could only be true if the need for those jobs disappeared. Otherwise feel free to explain what you meant when you said that no one will be making more money.

[Bill Gates]

I applied common sense to your argument that could only be true if the need for those jobs disappeared. Otherwise feel free to explain what you meant when you said that no one will be making more money.

I meant that the blue collar wage average went up because the lowest wages were removed, and not because anyone got a raise.

[ZenMaster]

I meant that the blue collar wage average went up because the lowest wages were removed, and not because anyone got a raise.

And you thinking that no one will get a raise led to you saying some truly dumb shit like no one will be making more money.

[Bill Gates]

And you thinking that no one will get a raise led to you saying some truly dumb shit like no one will be making more money.
Led to it? They are literally the same thing :oldlol:

Look, I think it's obvious to both of us that you didn't properly comprehend my words. The average blue collar wage went up because the illegals are gone, and NOT because companies are throwing out lots of raises. You can try to twist it into something else, like no one wants gardening now. But my point is a real one.

[warriorfan]

Bill Gates no joke has an iq hovering around 80. He spends all day making terrible arguments that he thinks that but but they don’t and doesn’t have the self awareness to realize it’s not. The. he makes up weird stories about his fake family and his job (some job where you spend 90% of your time getting backed the **** out on ish)

He’s just a both equally weak and mentally deranged man.

May god help him.

[ZenMaster]

Led to it? They are literally the same thing :oldlol:

Look, I think it's obvious to both of us that you didn't properly comprehend my words. The average blue collar wage went up because the illegals are gone, and NOT because companies are throwing out lots of raises. You can try to twist it into something else, like no one wants gardening now. But my point is a real one.

Everyone still wants gardening I'm glad you agree. So the people who weren't doing gardening before and making $0 from it because someone else was doing it at a very low rate they couldn't compete with, they now get to do gardening at a fair rate - you don't think those people are making more money than before? :biggums: