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post
07-02-2025, 09:36 PM
rudy gobert

https://i.postimg.cc/m2gJWjSr/imageedit-1-4505711177-1.jpg

draymond green

https://i.postimg.cc/3Nsv1n8Z/imageedit-2-5242079301-1.jpg

kawhi leonard

https://i.postimg.cc/W417fpLY/imageedit-3-6788651780-1.jpg

alex caruso

https://i.postimg.cc/Hks5TSZV/imageedit-4-2216276167-1.jpg

nate mcmillan

https://i.postimg.cc/MGvymMxt/imageedit-5-5331111216.jpg

1987_Lakers
07-02-2025, 10:14 PM
C - Bill Russell
PF - Kevin Garnett
SF - Scottie Pippen
SG - Sidney Moncrief
PG - Jason Kidd

kawhileonard2
07-02-2025, 10:18 PM
C Hakeem
PF Duncan
SF Kawhi
SG MJ
PG Payton

1987_Lakers
07-02-2025, 10:18 PM
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/220731133015-01-bill-russell-obit.jpg?c=original
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVCt8rcUMAAkuTE.jpg:large
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/13/62/f113620602894c3479206ffaa86f99fc.jpg
https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2021/09/GettyImages-1480479.jpg
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/legacy/www.nba.com/nets/sites/nets/files/gettyimages-1883047.jpg

1987_Lakers
07-02-2025, 10:21 PM
C Hakeem
PF Duncan
SF Kawhi
SG MJ
PG Payton

I know he played PF, but Duncan is your prototypical center. KG gives you more versatility at the 4. If I was forced to list Duncan a power forward and just made a team strictly off most deserving he would make it.

highwhey
07-02-2025, 10:27 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaELws0kad14rbM1NBSkxbR6cC56hwI XeYcrBz53l-ETfT53tiXeHJn_vPs7qn7LIEuTU&usqp=CAU times 5

hateraid
07-02-2025, 10:33 PM
From what I've seen that can actually alter the game

Mutombo
Rodman
Artest
Pippen
Payton

John8204
07-02-2025, 10:34 PM
C - Nate Thurmond
PF - Bobby Jones
SF - Tony Allen
SG - Jerry West
PG - Gary Payton

Axe
07-02-2025, 10:44 PM
Hey, sga should be on this list. :coleman:

https://i.imgflip.com/9z7q2u.jpg

Xiao Yao You
07-02-2025, 10:56 PM
rudy gobert

https://i.postimg.cc/m2gJWjSr/imageedit-1-4505711177-1.jpg

draymond green

https://i.postimg.cc/3Nsv1n8Z/imageedit-2-5242079301-1.jpg

kawhi leonard

https://i.postimg.cc/W417fpLY/imageedit-3-6788651780-1.jpg

alex caruso

https://i.postimg.cc/Hks5TSZV/imageedit-4-2216276167-1.jpg

nate mcmillan

https://i.postimg.cc/MGvymMxt/imageedit-5-5331111216.jpg

Best defensive player in toughest era to defend. Tough times for the trolls

tpols
07-02-2025, 11:01 PM
Putting a Rudy / dray combo in there instead of like Hakeem / Rodman, or Wilt / Garnett, or Russell / Duncan is a travesty and eliminates your all time defensive team from contention.

Xiao Yao You
07-02-2025, 11:19 PM
Draymond and gobert both guard in space while not being able to touch the opponent. The old guys didnt have to do that

SouBeachTalents
07-02-2025, 11:20 PM
Gobert there is a fvcking joke, I'd prob go something like

Payton
Jordan
Pippen
KG
Russell

tpols
07-02-2025, 11:23 PM
Draymond and gobert both guard in space while not being able to touch the opponent. The old guys didnt have to do that

Hakeem and Rodman and Garnett and Russell could easily guard in space.

Duncan and Wilt could too... do you seriously think Gobert is more mobile than young Wilt Chamberlain? Guy had olympic level athleticism measurables while being half as goofy as Rudy from coordination perspective.

Axe
07-03-2025, 12:30 AM
Gobert there is a fvcking joke
He let luka run cicles over his team despite having hca during the 2024 west finals. Big yikes.

Carbine
07-03-2025, 12:37 AM
Old school basketball:

C - David Robinson
PF - Hakeem
SF - Kawhi
SG - Artest
PG - Payton

More individual defense oriented for that era on the perimeter


Modern 3 pt era all defensive team:

Center - Kevin Garnett
PF - Draymond Green
SF - Pippen
SG - Andre Iggy
PG - Peak Ben Simmons


Switch everything focused on big men who can protect the rim + switch picks effectively

A lot of "old school" centers would struggle with all these picks. I think Garnett and Draymond are the best combination of rim protection + pick and roll defense for this era.

1987_Lakers
07-03-2025, 12:41 AM
Jason Kidd continues to be one of the most underrated defenders ever. People don't realize how impactful he was on that end.

Payton might have been a better man defender, but defense in general is mostly team compared to man and Kidd was the superior team/help defender who was also more versatile, could guard 1-3.

post
07-03-2025, 01:03 AM
ben wallace

https://i.postimg.cc/dVGYtWny/MV5-BYm-Nk-NGE0-NDgt-Ym-U1-My00-Mj-Nl-LThk-Nzgt-Mj-Jh-MWM1-ODgw-Zj-Jl-Xk-Ey-Xk-Fqc-Gc-V1.jpg

matisse thybulle

https://i.postimg.cc/x8Bw9Hz5/Matisse-Thybulle-Sixers-cropped-1.jpg

post
07-03-2025, 03:46 AM
ben wallace

https://i.postimg.cc/dVGYtWny/MV5-BYm-Nk-NGE0-NDgt-Ym-U1-My00-Mj-Nl-LThk-Nzgt-Mj-Jh-MWM1-ODgw-Zj-Jl-Xk-Ey-Xk-Fqc-Gc-V1.jpg

matisse thybulle

https://i.postimg.cc/x8Bw9Hz5/Matisse-Thybulle-Sixers-cropped-1.jpg

chuck hayes

https://i.postimg.cc/YqfGRbRz/imageedit-14-8912195253.jpg

shane battier

https://i.postimg.cc/fbXh7gjw/286909eb82e4f8c7077d9689ff491cb4.jpg

andre roberson

https://i.postimg.cc/4ykXtRhb/imageedit-15-4564981113.jpg

Xiao Yao You
07-03-2025, 03:46 AM
Hakeem and Rodman and Garnett and Russell could easily guard in space.

Duncan and Wilt could too... do you seriously think Gobert is more mobile than young Wilt Chamberlain? Guy had olympic level athleticism measurables while being half as goofy as Rudy from coordination perspective.

They may have been able to. We never saw it. They also could grab their opponent

post
07-03-2025, 03:47 AM
gobert/wallace
green/hayes
leonard/battier
thybulle/roberson
caruso/mcmillan

post
07-03-2025, 05:59 AM
david robinson

https://i.postimg.cc/nccPxWDr/davidrobinsonusna2.jpg

kevin garnett

https://i.postimg.cc/RV5wQJMB/Kevin-Garnett-2008-01-13-2.jpg

paul george

https://i.postimg.cc/rmVS4Bct/imageedit-17-2485725838-1.jpg

tony allen

https://i.postimg.cc/d13jXbXc/imageedit-19-2520787317-1.jpg

chris paul

https://i.postimg.cc/N0Jz5kvY/imageedit-21-9186111244-1.jpg

post
07-03-2025, 06:00 AM
gobert/wallace/robinson
green/hayes/garnett
leonard/battier/george
thybulle/allen/roberson
caruso/mcmillan/paul

jayfan
07-03-2025, 07:02 AM
You could LEGIT have an all-time defensive team of just Pistons.

Ben Wallace
Dennis Rodman
Tayshaun Prince
Ausar Thompson
Joe Dumars



https://i.redd.it/lbvnkdnaxvh81.jpg

Xiao Yao You
07-03-2025, 07:11 AM
Gobert/malone/ak/dunn/stockton

Hendricks and collier potentially

L.Kizzle
07-03-2025, 09:24 AM
I mentioned this is another defensive thread floating around.
Dave DeBusschere, how good was he as a defender?
The first six years they selected All-Defensive Teams, he was not only 1st Team every season but had the most votes in four of them. The other two years came in 2nd behind Walt Frazier and 3rd behind Walt and Bill Russell.

post
07-03-2025, 10:21 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/4NBhJB6X/gobert-trackdown-block.gif

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https://i.postimg.cc/XqhSLMMV/tumblr-c9f38ec2e085bcd721eb4a15142b7094-48f7009c-400.gif

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1987_Lakers
07-05-2025, 01:36 PM
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/220731133015-01-bill-russell-obit.jpg?c=original
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVCt8rcUMAAkuTE.jpg:large
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f1/13/62/f113620602894c3479206ffaa86f99fc.jpg
https://cdn.nba.com/manage/2021/09/GettyImages-1480479.jpg
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/legacy/www.nba.com/nets/sites/nets/files/gettyimages-1883047.jpg

2nd Team

Hakeem
Draymond
Kawhi
Tony Allen
Frazier

(I'm labeling Duncan a center)

ReturnofJPR
07-05-2025, 02:23 PM
Draymond is a bitch compared to Dennis Rodman. What you think the R in my moniker stands for? I was JOR but got banned 20 years ago. Before that. I was on this site back in 1991 and I had to walk through snow to access it. Rodman is a real human. 100%. I don’t care what his daughter says. He named Madonna in her prime and he was homeless in Oklahoma before a coach found him randomly digging through the trash. The rest is history. It was written as Nas would say

ReturnofJPR
07-05-2025, 02:25 PM
Old school basketball:

C - David Robinson
PF - Hakeem
SF - Kawhi
SG - Artest
PG - Payton

More individual defense oriented for that era on the perimeter


Modern 3 pt era all defensive team:

Center - Kevin Garnett
PF - Draymond Green
SF - Pippen
SG - Andre Iggy
PG - Peak Ben Simmons


Switch everything focused on big men who can protect the rim + switch picks effectively

A lot of "old school" centers would struggle with all these picks. I think Garnett and Draymond are the best combination of rim protection + pick and roll defense for this era.


What a ***** putting Ben the bust Simmons on there put Gary Payton you b!tch white chocolate murked that ninja. I’d put Stockton before Simmons


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PBxBXHlhvS4

One of the few shaq respects. Payton, arguably, the best Point Guard ever tried to trip the white boy from West Virginia who went to high school with Randy Moss. The new gen is so soft with their pony tails and face tats that mean nothing. Ever hear of Chicago heights? I still can call up a vice lord like that but that’s west side. Everyone screams Latin kings but they were founded in Chicago, look it up fool. Hit em on division and the 4CH on wentworth. Nothing like asking 5 for 4 and you get a screwdriver to the neck