LeBron has amazing athleticism for his age but he’s not effective

[Walk on Water]

For age 40, LeBron can sure dunk and his chase down blocks are astounding. His numbers are good. But it doesn’t change the fact that LeBron is a negative plus/minus player. He doesn’t make teams better anymore. He has the highlight plays. But he is a liability out there the majority of the time.

You cannot brag about his stats but choose to ignore his plus minus stats. You can say all you want about how he’s 40 but the scoreboard doesn’t factor that in like how in golf you get a handicap score. I’m sorry but it doesn’t work that way. LeBron James is no longer effective as a team player on the court. One amazing chase down doesn’t get rid of 5-8 times where he lets the opponent easily score and he acts like someone else was supposed to guard for him. It doesn’t work that way.

So while I admit he puts up some good highlights here and there, it looks like he chose to go for highlights but sacrificed the rest of his game just so he could have the energy for the highlights. But he doesn’t have the energy for all the other plays. That’s why Lebron hurts the team. It’s like playing a video game but using one player to get stats and look at what happens to the overall team.

[1987_Lakers]

Imagine MJ doing this at age 40. Curry is 37 and has 1 dunk in the last 6 years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_6uOwwQvE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUH7P-GMZo

[Walk on Water]

Imagine MJ doing this at age 40. Curry is 37 and has 1 dunk in the last 6 years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_6uOwwQvE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUH7P-GMZo


Like I said you don’t get a handicap score for being 40. You don’t get brownie points. In terms of effectiveness, you and I BOTH agree 100 percent that LeBron is a liability.

[Full Court]

Imagine MJ doing this at age 40. Curry is 37 and has 1 dunk in the last 6 years.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_6uOwwQvE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUH7P-GMZo

"Bu-bu-bu-bu-but he got a DUNK!!!!"

:roll:

Net negative. Any way you try to slice it, no matter how much damage control you try to do, he's still a net negative.

Truth hurts.

[Walk on Water]

"Bu-bu-bu-bu-but he got a DUNK!!!!"

:roll:

Net negative. Any way you try to slice it, no matter how much damage control you try to do, he's still a net negative.

Truth hurts.


Yea a net negative is still a net negative. Let’s see LeBron play properly like a regular starter who plays defense and plays a team game.

[Carbine]

Is his plus minus due to a complete lack of defensive effectiveness?

[90sgoat]

I've been saying for years that he should have moved to 6th man if he actually wanted to be effective.

He doesn't bring enough to be effective as a high minute starter, but as a 6th man, he could make those role players on the bench better.

[sdot_thadon]

Ehh, you guys just keep holding him to an unbelievable standard. It says you guys truly believe hes worthy of goat without actually saying it. His plus or minus, honestly from watching him just means he cant carry the bench lineups to a positive anymore, and they (meaning probably him and his coach) arent facing this reality and still running him with weak lineups like his teams could do in his prime and a bit past it. If you can tell me what other player either this age, or this many seasons in still carried any lineups let alone the 2nd unit guys, you'd have a point. Unfortunately for you, as usual you miss the big picture standing right in front of it because you're so focused on a small detail.

[StrongLurk]

Lebron is the best plus-minus player of all time, so I guess OP must think Lebron is GOAT if he is going to focus on plus-minus.

[ImKobe]

Is his plus minus due to a complete lack of defensive effectiveness?

Mostly yeah. Bulk of it can be blamed on 3PT% difference as in opponents shot 5% worse with him off the court, but he is lazy to close out on 3PT shooters these days. Lakers however also were able to maintain their offense in the non-Lebron minutes which really wasn't the case in years past. Reaves really stepped up and obviously him and Luka were not completely on the same page so Doncic was probably more comfortable doing his thing in the non-James minutes, often having those 1st half explosions while James rested on the bench.

[1987_Lakers]

His poor plus minus was mostly from his poor start to the season, and old LeBron always stars seasons kinda slow. Once he got into a groove he was positive. Remember all the games they won without AD before he got traded? They went 8-1 without AD last season, before Luka even made his debut with us. No 40 year old came close to this impact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qLVRV-vY8&t

[Full Court]

His poor plus minus was mostly from his poor start to the season, and old LeBron always stars seasons kinda slow. Once he got into a groove he was positive. Remember all the games they won without AD before he got traded? They went 8-1 without AD last season, before Luka even made his debut with us. No 40 year old came close to this impact.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qLVRV-vY8&t

Poor start? Did you watch the playoffs? Lebron choked away the series. Go watch the fourth quarters of those games. Particularly the must-win games 4 and 5.

[1987_Lakers]

Poor start? Did you watch the playoffs? Lebron choked away the series. Go watch the fourth quarters of those games. Particularly the must-win games 4 and 5.

Meanwhile, 40 year old MJ didn't even make the playoffs.


Lebron is the best plus-minus player of all time, so I guess OP must think Lebron is GOAT if he is going to focus on plus-minus.
Bron haters are not very bright. They always shoot themselves in the foot.

[Full Court]

Meanwhile, 40 year old MJ didn't even make the playoffs.


Bron haters are not very bright. They always shoot themselves in the foot.

40 year old MJ with Lebron's supporting cast in '25 wins a championship - doesn't get embarrassed and bounced in the FIRST ROUND as the favorite with HCA. :lol

Nice try.

[1987_Lakers]

40 year old MJ with Lebron's supporting cast in '25 wins a championship - doesn't get embarrassed and bounced in the FIRST ROUND as the favorite with HCA. :lol

Nice try.

40 year old MJ couldn't even make the playoffs with an all-star teammate who averaged 30 ppg just two seasons prior. To top it off he missed the playoffs while playing in a historically weak conference too. :lol

Nice try.

[sdot_thadon]

40 year old Mjs seasons didn't even count anymore when he played for the wizards

[Full Court]

40 year old MJ couldn't even make the playoffs with an all-star teammate who averaged 30 ppg just two seasons prior. To top it off he missed the playoffs while playing in a historically weak conference too. :lol

Nice try.

^Delusional.

This is why you get ridiculed so much on here, Dudley.

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[Walk on Water]

Ehh, you guys just keep holding him to an unbelievable standard. It says you guys truly believe hes worthy of goat without actually saying it. His plus or minus, honestly from watching him just means he cant carry the bench lineups to a positive anymore, and they (meaning probably him and his coach) arent facing this reality and still running him with weak lineups like his teams could do in his prime and a bit past it. If you can tell me what other player either this age, or this many seasons in still carried any lineups let alone the 2nd unit guys, you'd have a point. Unfortunately for you, as usual you miss the big picture standing right in front of it because you're so focused on a small detail.


So all we’re asking is that he’s not a negative plus minus. I guess breaking even is considered goat standards to you.

[Walk on Water]

Lebron is the best plus-minus player of all time, so I guess OP must think Lebron is GOAT if he is going to focus on plus-minus.


Duncan is higher

[Axe]

Like I said you don’t get a handicap score for being 40. You don’t get brownie points. In terms of effectiveness, you and I BOTH agree 100 percent that LeBron is a liability.
https://i.ibb.co/SXmzJnfD/Screenshot-20250703-235925.jpg

[Full Court]

^BITCH FIT


The stink weasel just can't stop melting down over his hero being a net negative.

:lebroncry:

[ImKobe]

Duncan is higher

I'm assuming you guys mean raw +/-, I'm pretty sure net rating-wise it's Jokic just because of the teams he's had.

[Full Court]

I'm assuming you guys mean raw +/-, I'm pretty sure net rating-wise it's Jokic just because of the teams he's had.

How could you possibly not have a great +/- when you're on the court with guys like Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, AD, Reaves, Luka, Westbrook, Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Brandon Ingram, etc.?

Nobody in the history of the sport has achieved less with that much help.

[sdot_thadon]

So all we’re asking is that he’s not a negative plus minus. I guess breaking even is considered goat standards to you.

He may be sometimes considering the circumstance. Plus minus isn't a tool for dummies thats for sure. You have to see the lineups guys are ran in amongst other things most fans are too lazy to check. But let's entertain for a moment that Lebron's actually a net negative player despite what your eyes will show. Hes old and no one gets bad makrs for not being able to carry a team at 40 or at year 2178. Thw deal with him in his later years is he can still do most of the things he could in his prime, but in his prime he could do all that shit at the same time. Now he has to pick his spots and conserve when necessary. If you somehow think this is some major black mark on his goat case, youre doing it wrong.

[Full Court]

He may be sometimes considering the circumstance. Plus minus isn't a tool for dummies thats for sure. You have to see the lineups guys are ran in amongst other things most fans are too lazy to check. But let's entertain for a moment that Lebron's actually a net negative player despite what your eyes will show. Hes old and no one gets bad makrs for not being able to carry a team at 40 or at year 2178. Thw deal with him in his later years is he can still do most of the things he could in his prime, but in his prime he could do all that shit at the same time. Now he has to pick his spots and conserve when necessary. If you somehow think this is some major black mark on his goat case, youre doing it wrong.

Well, he doesn't have a GOAT case, but let's put that aside for the moment. The rest of what you said is correct, and the fact that he's a net negative at 40 years old is not a black mark on the rest of his career (except for his playoff choke - that's a black mark at any age). But even though it's not a black mark, threads like this come about because of the endless spamming of Bronie fluffers on here who insist that Lebron is still a top 10 player. He's nowhere even close to that.

[Walk on Water]

Well, he doesn't have a GOAT case, but let's put that aside for the moment. The rest of what you said is correct, and the fact that he's a net negative at 40 years old is not a black mark on the rest of his career (except for his playoff choke - that's a black mark at any age). But even though it's not a black mark, threads like this come about because of the endless spamming of Bronie fluffers on here who insist that Lebron is still a top 10 player. He's nowhere even close to that.


Right. It’s smoke, screens and mirrors.

[sdot_thadon]

Well, he doesn't have a GOAT case, but let's put that aside for the moment. The rest of what you said is correct, and the fact that he's a net negative at 40 years old is not a black mark on the rest of his career (except for his playoff choke - that's a black mark at any age). But even though it's not a black mark, threads like this come about because of the endless spamming of Bronie fluffers on here who insist that Lebron is still a top 10 player. He's nowhere even close to that.

And this is exactly where you'll always prove to be an idiot. Theres only one kind of person that believes what you just typed here, and honestly that type of person isn't worth having a basketball conversation with. And the term choke is so played out now it doesn't even register because you guys dont use it properly. Losing a game or a series isn't a choke, gassing out down the stretch is not a choke. Your teammates making mistakes is not a choke. Yall have taken the meaning from the term. There are instances for the term but you rarely name the ones you should.

[ImKobe]

How could you possibly not have a great +/- when you're on the court with guys like Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, AD, Reaves, Luka, Westbrook, Carmelo, Dwight Howard, Brandon Ingram, etc.?

Nobody in the history of the sport has achieved less with that much help.

Yeah, if you're always on good teams the plain +/- on the court is going to be decent. Most of Lebron's teams were pretty top heavy not necessarily loaded in depth, so they had problems producing on the court when him and other starters rested.

[1987_Lakers]

And this is exactly where you'll always prove to be an idiot. Theres only one kind of person that believes what you just typed here, and honestly that type of person isn't worth having a basketball conversation with. And the term choke is so played out now it doesn't even register because you guys dont use it properly. Losing a game or a series isn't a choke, gassing out down the stretch is not a choke. Your teammates making mistakes is not a choke. Yall have taken the meaning from the term. There are instances for the term but you rarely name the ones you should.

Full court calls every bad shooting game from LeBron a choke (some games where he won btw) then praised SGA after he shot 8/27 in game 7 of the Finals. Can’t make this up.

[1987_Lakers]

And this is exactly where you'll always prove to be an idiot. Theres only one kind of person that believes what you just typed here, and honestly that type of person isn't worth having a basketball conversation with. And the term choke is so played out now it doesn't even register because you guys dont use it properly. Losing a game or a series isn't a choke, gassing out down the stretch is not a choke. Your teammates making mistakes is not a choke. Yall have taken the meaning from the term. There are instances for the term but you rarely name the ones you should.

Full court calls every bad shooting game from LeBron a choke (some games where he won btw) then praised SGA after he shot 8/27 in game 7 of the Finals. Can’t make this up.

[sdot_thadon]

Full court calls every bad shooting game from LeBron a choke (some games where he won btw) then praised SGA after he shot 8/27 in game 7 of the Finals. Can’t make this up.

And thats why the term has lost its legs and is almost on auto ignore soon as a guy like him brings it up in these conversations.

[Axe]

Full court calls every bad shooting game from LeBron a choke (some games where he won btw) then praised SGA after he shot 8/27 in game 7 of the Finals. Can’t make this up.
https://c.tenor.com/ZQ6SDX4dBEUAAAAC/tenor.gif (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

[Full Court]

And this is exactly where you'll always prove to be an idiot. Theres only one kind of person that believes what you just typed here, and honestly that type of person isn't worth having a basketball conversation with. And the term choke is so played out now it doesn't even register because you guys dont use it properly. Losing a game or a series isn't a choke, gassing out down the stretch is not a choke. Your teammates making mistakes is not a choke. Yall have taken the meaning from the term. There are instances for the term but you rarely name the ones you should.


Full court calls every bad shooting game from LeBron a choke (some games where he won btw) then praised SGA after he shot 8/27 in game 7 of the Finals. Can’t make this up.

I've noticed that the only people bristle at the word "choke" are Bronie fluffers - probably because their hero's done so much of it. :lol

Hey, Dudley. Do you call going scoreless in the fourth quarter of a razor-close must-win game a choke job? Just answer me that.

It also sounds like someone's upset about SGA winning FMVP.

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

full court having a meltdown for being exposed as a hypocrite. Why didn't you label Morant's game 7 a choke?

:lebronamazed:

Also, remember a few years ago when you would always post the Lakers record without LeBron while at the same time being Ja Morant's number 1 fan, when the Grizzlies were like 22-5 without him. :oldlol:

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Full Court]

https://c.tenor.com/ZQ6SDX4dBEUAAAAC/tenor.gif (https://i.ibb.co/hX34jLs/IMG-20221001-103220.jpg)

There was a bitch fit throwing moron

He used the screen name Axe

Because he was so stinky

That he smelled like straight up ass


:roll: So true.

[Full Court]

full court having a meltdown for being exposed as a hypocrite. Why didn't you label Morant's game 7 a choke?

:lebronamazed:

Also, remember a few years ago when you would always post the Lakers record without LeBron while at the same time being Ja Morant's number 1 fan, when the Grizzlies were like 22-5 without him. :oldlol:

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Wow, I've got this fool SHOOK. :lol

I, in fact, conceded that it was a choke job. Here is my actual post:


No question he pulled an offensive stinker, but he made up for it by being an absolute beast on the defensive end. Did you even watch the game?

We can chalk it up as a choke job though if you want. Now he only has 44 more before he matches LeShrivel.

I would call you out for being a liar, but I consider the possibility that your reading comprension is actually so poor that you weren't able to mentally process what I wrote.

And Full Court wins yet AGAIN. :roll:

Suck it, Dudley.

:lebronamazed:

[1987_Lakers]

So you use context when it comes to SGA but completely ignore the context when posting those LeBron stats.

Hypocrite.

Remember when you were a Morant fan? :oldlol:

[3ba11]

You'll never be able to tell that a ball-dominator has fallen off, since they always have the ball in their hands and therefore can rack up stats.

But an old ball-dominator no longer wins the all-important "attrition battle" at the heart of every basketball game, i.e. they don't foster a forceful offense that wears down an opponent defensively, thereby giving them less capacity for offense.. The team on their heels defensively will have less capacity to "get hot" offensively.. aka the best defense is a good offense - a tenet of all competition.

Unfortunately, defenses don't get worn down defending Lebron's ever-increasing plodding - aka LePlod - just watch highlights of him from 2009 and you will see within 2 seconds what I mean - the current Lebron is a snail by comparison.. So Lebron has no force anymore, just like an old man - he can't wear down defenses anymore (thus leaving them less capacity for offense).. He doesn't win the attrition battle anymore...

Since Lebron can't wear down the opponent, the Lakers face fresh opponents and therefore have maximum defensive requirements - Lebron doesn't lower his team's defensive requirements by wearing down the opponent (facing worn-down opponents).. Again, all of this is called "being old".

Btw, the reality is that Lebron's ball-dominant style has always let defenses rest and has never won the attrition battle like the zippy ball movement teams that destroy him (Spurs, Warriors, Nuggets, Mavs, etc).. It's one of the reasons that all ball-dominators are beneath the best of other skillsets that favor ball movement, such as jumpshooters or bigs (who are assisted on a lot of their shots).. Since ball-dominators are beneath the best bigs or jumpshooters, they're outside the top 10 all-time.

[Full Court]

So you use context when it comes to SGA but completely ignore the context when posting those LeBron stats.

Hypocrite.

Remember when you were a Morant fan? :oldlol:

"Waaahhhhhhhhh, Full Court called my precious Bronie a choker. He's a HYPOCRITE!!! :cry: He should be banned!"

:roll: Keep on crying, homie. I love it.

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[1987_Lakers]

Morant has my vote. Embiid and Jokic both deserve it too, but I'm pulling for Morant all the way.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/printthread.php?t=502693&pp=15

Morant for MVP :roll:

[3ba11]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/printthread.php?t=502693&pp=15

Morant for MVP :roll:


Losing in 1st Round with Luka or AD = not a good player anymore & fake old man stat padding

How can you defend losing in the 1st Round with Luka or AD... As the favorite no less - everyone expected them to beat Ant, but Lebron was worst-ever in clutch-time and already has a perennially-losing brand that wins once in a blue moon

[1987_Lakers]

Losing in 1st Round with Luka or AD = not a good player anymore & fake old man stats

How can you defend losing with Luka or AD

Meanwhile MJ was losing 1 on 1 to a banker at that age


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k

[3ba11]

Meanwhile MJ was losing 1 on 1 to a banker at that age


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7U74Dg04k


Im pretty sure that I could do that to a sleeping 41-year old Lebron.. catch him sleeping twice and then get lucky once when he decides to try.. you just don't know hoops... it happens, but can you imagine 1992 MJ? It would NEVER happen lolol

[Axe]

Meanwhile MJ was losing 1 on 1 to a banker at that age


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[04mzwach]

Lebron is one of the best in the league today. That's more than just effective, it's elite. The LBJ hate is humorous!

[Full Court]

Lebron is one of the best in the league today. That's more than just effective, it's elite. The LBJ hate is humorous!

Delusional. He's not even top 20.

[sdot_thadon]

I've noticed that the only people bristle at the word "choke" are Bronie fluffers - probably because their hero's done so much of it. :lol

Hey, Dudley. Do you call going scoreless in the fourth quarter of a razor-close must-win game a choke job? Just answer me that.

It also sounds like someone's upset about SGA winning FMVP.

:lebronamazed:

Nobody bristles at the word choke, lol nobody even gives af about the word because you nimrods dont even use it properly. Thats the whole point, you lost the meaning of the word a long time ago. Lebron had more game winners in the playoffs than anyone else ever long before he became the all time leading scorer. He had more playoff game winners in a week than Kobe had his entire career iirc.

[3ba11]

Nobody bristles at the word choke, lol nobody even gives af about the word because you nimrods dont even use it properly. Thats the whole point, you lost the meaning of the word a long time ago. Lebron had more game winners in the playoffs than anyone else ever long before he became the all time leading scorer. He had more playoff game winners in a week than Kobe had his entire career iirc.


Lebron has the worst clutch efficiency ever, while being 0-7 on game-winners or tyers in the Finals.. He lost multiple 4th quarter leads in the 07' Finals, 09' ECF, 11' Finals, 23' WCF, 24' 1st Round, 25' 1st Round, and many more... So the numbers confirm that he's a rabid choker.

[3ba11]

Nobody bristles at the word choke, lol nobody even gives af about the word because you nimrods dont even use it properly. Thats the whole point, you lost the meaning of the word a long time ago. Lebron had more game winners in the playoffs than anyone else ever long before he became the all time leading scorer. He had more playoff game winners in a week than Kobe had his entire career iirc.


Lebron has bad efficiency on game-winners and the worst clutch efficiency ever, while also having the worst clutch turnovers ever and being 0-7 on game-winners in the Finals.. He lost multiple 4th quarter leads in the 07' Finals, 09' ECF, 11' Finals, 23' WCF, 24' 1st Round, 25' 1st Round, and many more... So the numbers confirm that he's a rabid choker.

[Full Court]

Nobody bristles at the word choke, lol nobody even gives af about the word because you nimrods dont even use it properly. Thats the whole point, you lost the meaning of the word a long time ago. Lebron had more game winners in the playoffs than anyone else ever long before he became the all time leading scorer. He had more playoff game winners in a week than Kobe had his entire career iirc.

Sure they do. You and Dudley were melting down over it in this very thread.

Here's a snapshot of Lebron's, AKA LeShrivel's, choking just in the post season.


2007 game 1 against Detroit. 10 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 2 against Detroit. 19 points on 37% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against the Spurs. 14 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

2008 game 1 against Boston. 12 points and 10 turnovers on 11% shooting. 0/6 from three. LOSS.

Game 2 against Boston. 21 points on 25% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Boston. 21 points on 31% shooting.

Game 4 against Boston. 21 points on 35% shooting.

2009 game 3 against Orlando. He scored 41 points, but on absolutely horrendous efficiency. 39% shooting and 1/8 from three. LOSS. Someone should have made him stop shooting.

2010 game 5 against Boston. 15 points on 21% shooting!!! LOSS. The series was tied 2-2 until that game. That Lebron choke put the Cavs down 3-2, and they went on to lose the series.

2011 game 1 against Philadelphia. 21 points on 29% shooting.

Game 5 against Philadelphia. 16 points on 39% shooting.

Game 3 against Boston. 15 points on 38% shooting. LOSS.

Game 1 against Chicago. 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Finals against Dallas. Most epic choke job of all time. Game 3, 17 points.

Game 4, 8 points on 27% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5, 17 points. LOSS.

Game 6, 21 points and 6 turnovers. LOSS.

2013 game 2 against San Antonio. 17 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against San Antonio, 15 points on 33% shooting. LOSS.

Game 5 against San Antonio, 25 points on 36% shooting. LOSS.

2014 game 5 against Indiana. 7 points on 20% shooting. Whooaaaaaaaa! LOSS.

2015 game 1 against Chicago. 19 points on 41% shooting. LOSS.

Game 6 against Chicago. 15 points on 30% shooting.

Game 4 against Golden State. 20 points on 32% shooting.

2016 game 3 against Detroit. 20 points on 33% shooting.

Game 2 against Golden State. 19 points on 42% shooting. LOSS.

2017 game 3 against Boston. 11 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2018 game 1 against Indiana. 24 points on 41% shooting. 0% from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Boston. 15 points on 31% shooting. LOSS.

2020 game 2 against Portland. 10 points on 36% shooting.

Game 1 against Houston. 20 points. LOSS.

Game 4 against Houston. 16 points on 41% shooting.

Game 1 against Denver. 15 points.

2021 game 1 against Phoenix. 18 points on 46% shooting. LOSS.

Game 3 against Phoenix. 21 points and 7 turnovers on 47% shooting.

Game 6 against Phoenix. 29 points on 11/26 shooting. ELIMINATION.

2023 game 5 against Memphis. 15 points on 29% shooting. 1-9 from three. LOSS.

Game 1 against Golden State. 22 points on 38% shooting. 1-8 from three.

Game 2 against Denver. 22 points. 0-6 from three. LOSS.

Game 4 against Denver. Wasted multiple possessions in 4th quarter, missed key shots, and blew the game-tying shot in the last possession. SWEPT.

2024 game 1 against Denver. 0 points in the fourth quarter of a close game. Actually, he had two points, but that was from an uncontested layup in the final minute of the game after Denver had already closed the game out. LOSS

Game 2 against Denver. The game is tied and the Lakers have the final possession. Instead of running the clock down, Lebron clanks a low-IQ three point shot, leaving Denver with plenty of time for a final possession. Murray, who is way more clutch than Lebron, makes the buzzer beater. LOSS.

2025 game 1 against Minnesota. 19 points in an embarrassing blowout loss.

Game 4 against Minnesota. ZERO points in the fourth quarter of a razor-close must win game. LOSS.

Game 5 against Minnesota. ONE field goal in the fourth quarter of elimination game (not counting an uncontested layup in garbage time). LOSS and ELIMINATED.




Facts + Bronie fluffers = extreme pain :lol

[sdot_thadon]

And guess what all that wall of text and he still has more playoff gamewinners than both Kobe and Mj:applause:

[Full Court]

And guess what all that wall of text and he still has more playoff gamewinners than both Kobe and Mj:applause:

No he doesn't.

Nice try though. :lol

Biggest choker of all time.

[tpols]

He was plenty effective but LAs frontcourt got dominated by Rudy "Wilt Chamberlain" Gobert in the playoffs.

[sdot_thadon]

No he doesn't.

Nice try though. :lol

Biggest choker of all time.

This has been common knowledge for some time now. Hes had more playoff game winners inn
a week than Kobes had in a career. And yeah he also has more playoff gamewinners than Jordan does, the most ever in fact. Go do some researxh instead of copy pasting walls of incoherent babble. Probably time to upgrade your software from LeBron troll 1.0 to the latest version , your narratives are severely outdated. Would probably help you be less of a punching bag around here too.